@franzrogar Yep- Ctrl+Tab is almost a necessity for quick switching. I think they're fine with this since they're trying to rethink the concept of having multiple webpages loaded and available at once. Presumably, they have a suitable alternative to tabs in the design.
I'm not sure if I really see how well this would work in practice. This would be great on a tablet, definitely, but I'm still a bit concerned about the design- it needs to be tested and retested.
@SC2Phan Well, in this case Tabs are all up and with the page title and I can access them with a click. I see them I click on them. Usability and being intuitive, in this case, have a direct relation.
And, about the "All-In-One page" (Ctrl+Shift+E) is right now available. The only "improvement" I see has been changing from icon at the right to a button at the left and adding Ctrl+Tab (which I'm not sure if it has it right now)
@franzrogar It may prove less usable, it may prove more usable. That's still up in the air since we cannot test it. However, we can't just assume that an extra click makes it worse and that's the feeling I get from comments such as those.
@SC2Phan Well, that's not the feeling, that's exactly what I meant: an extra click makes it worse. Why? Because right now I've to move the pointer and click on Tab. With the new behavior I've to move the pointer and click on the button, then move the pointer (again) and click on the page I want. That's twice the actions required right now. Hiding things right now available at one look it's really not a good idea.
So instead of previously needing only one click with tabbed browsing, I need now navigate to the page button and click it, then navigate to the thumbnail of the page I want, and then click it? thats 200% more work!
If you remove the irritating top black bar of GNOME 3, you will get more real estate space. Also, switching a tab should not involve so many animations.
@SirTheta I actually just barely learned about both of these behaviors, and I've been a heavy web user for a while. I always just used the middle button to scroll along the tabs in Chrome, and a similar extension in Firefox.
This will be very helpful in the future. I just feel bad that non-technical users are resigned to two clicks instead of one. Then again, do they really use tabs as often as we do? I think with browsers like Chrome, we're making the most of tabs w/o space-hogging.
Oh hey, now that I can see the tab switching with the keyboard, this may be a far more bearable experience than I expected. There are many tradeoffs with this design, but it looks usable enough to be acceptable on a tablet and laptop.
It's not like a ton of people were using Epiphany before, so having an alternative to the tried and true interaction designs will be refreshing. This looks fantastic for a tablet, of course.
The ctrl-tab feature made things worth it. I just hope that a lot of caching is used to keep the UI very responsive. I'd hate to make tab switching a slow task just so that previews of all pages can be rendered.
@jirihnidek Click on the site title in the middle. I'll admit that this isn't very discoverable, and needs a bit more research (it does become an extruded button when you hover over it, though).
I think the main reason for this is that they expect most common users to search or use bookmarks rather than typing a URL. That is, they expect this to be the most used way of getting to a page.
@scionicspectre Clicking on the title is very very hidden feature :-). BTW: I like Ctrl-L shortcut in Chrome/Chromium ... I can search or type URL immediately.
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QuickFixScottie 1 month ago
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CUNTANDPASTE 1 month ago
jesus christ they even removed google search from the bar. wtf are they even doing?
MaZe741 1 month ago
@MaZe741 They are probably integrating in the URL bar. Like Chrome.
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GreyMattersHome 1 month ago
ffuuuuu
GoendahGoelana 1 month ago
This is only for tablets and phones … No sense when using a « real » PC …
aluminum95 1 month ago
just stupid.
catha86 1 month ago
To anyone brainless. No one uses Epiphany as a Chrome/Firefox/Opera alternative. This sort of direction makes perfect sense.
kelseyjudson 1 month ago 2
que hueva eso esta en opera google mozilla es solamente una app con buen diseño de la herramienta favoritos
argosx12a1 2 months ago
Pointless.
pollordubai 2 months ago
se ve bien pero ¿será ligero?
camiller1988 2 months ago
the worst part is that the removal of the tabs didn't introduce another feature, it just made a blank wasted space.
combatLaCarie 2 months ago
@combatLaCarie I guess that they want to replace tabs with the "queue" tab.
I can see myself using this on a tablet, but on a desktop I want to be able to scan the contents of the tabs before I even start moving the mouse.
In Gnome 2.3 the typical workflow for selecting a tab or virtual desktop was
1) look
2) Use mouse
In gnome 3 the prefered workflow is
1) Use mouse
2) look
3) Use mouse again
This is a little annoying for power users.
anotherelvis 1 week ago
I like the look personally :)
SC2Phan 2 months ago
Nice idea !!
max1mHS 2 months ago
good concept, but i really like Icons more instead of pages, would be cool, if i open a new tab seeing a url line and my favourite html5 "Apps"
ilikewebm 2 months ago
Hum... Right now, I only need 1 click to change page. Now, you'll make me require +2 clicks... Great! Kudos for the mind who thought about it!
franzrogar 2 months ago
@franzrogar Yep- Ctrl+Tab is almost a necessity for quick switching. I think they're fine with this since they're trying to rethink the concept of having multiple webpages loaded and available at once. Presumably, they have a suitable alternative to tabs in the design.
I'm not sure if I really see how well this would work in practice. This would be great on a tablet, definitely, but I'm still a bit concerned about the design- it needs to be tested and retested.
scionicspectre 2 months ago
@franzrogar Usability and being intuitive is not always about the number of clicks you must make.
SC2Phan 2 months ago
@SC2Phan Well, in this case Tabs are all up and with the page title and I can access them with a click. I see them I click on them. Usability and being intuitive, in this case, have a direct relation.
And, about the "All-In-One page" (Ctrl+Shift+E) is right now available. The only "improvement" I see has been changing from icon at the right to a button at the left and adding Ctrl+Tab (which I'm not sure if it has it right now)
franzrogar 2 months ago
@franzrogar It may prove less usable, it may prove more usable. That's still up in the air since we cannot test it. However, we can't just assume that an extra click makes it worse and that's the feeling I get from comments such as those.
SC2Phan 2 months ago
@SC2Phan Well, that's not the feeling, that's exactly what I meant: an extra click makes it worse. Why? Because right now I've to move the pointer and click on Tab. With the new behavior I've to move the pointer and click on the button, then move the pointer (again) and click on the page I want. That's twice the actions required right now. Hiding things right now available at one look it's really not a good idea.
franzrogar 2 months ago
So instead of previously needing only one click with tabbed browsing, I need now navigate to the page button and click it, then navigate to the thumbnail of the page I want, and then click it? thats 200% more work!
guru332 2 months ago
If you remove the irritating top black bar of GNOME 3, you will get more real estate space. Also, switching a tab should not involve so many animations.
psankar 2 months ago
Interesting design. But why invent new keyboard shortcuts? Every browser uses ctrl+page up/down.
leif81 2 months ago 3
@leif81 Everybody uses Ctrl + Tab/ Ctrl + Shift + Tab as well dumb ass.
SirTheta 2 months ago 16
@SirTheta I actually just barely learned about both of these behaviors, and I've been a heavy web user for a while. I always just used the middle button to scroll along the tabs in Chrome, and a similar extension in Firefox.
This will be very helpful in the future. I just feel bad that non-technical users are resigned to two clicks instead of one. Then again, do they really use tabs as often as we do? I think with browsers like Chrome, we're making the most of tabs w/o space-hogging.
scionicspectre 2 months ago
This is just retarded, isn't gnome supposed to be minimal, i would expect this from kde, not you guys, for shame
draftube 2 months ago
@draftube I don't quite understand your argument, surely this design is "minimal"?
SuborbitalPigeon 2 months ago
Oh hey, now that I can see the tab switching with the keyboard, this may be a far more bearable experience than I expected. There are many tradeoffs with this design, but it looks usable enough to be acceptable on a tablet and laptop.
It's not like a ton of people were using Epiphany before, so having an alternative to the tried and true interaction designs will be refreshing. This looks fantastic for a tablet, of course.
scionicspectre 2 months ago
The URL is exposed on the title area. We need to experiment on the hints, but clicking on the page title to get it was the initial idea.
jimmacfx 2 months ago
The ctrl-tab feature made things worth it. I just hope that a lot of caching is used to keep the UI very responsive. I'd hate to make tab switching a slow task just so that previews of all pages can be rendered.
madiathv 2 months ago
Cool concept, but it lacks a easy to find URL / search input
Arkanux 2 months ago
Where can I type URL?
jirihnidek 2 months ago 40
@jirihnidek I only ever use URL's when messing with html. It could do with a dedicated seach box though :/
TomAnkcorn 2 months ago
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jimmacfx 2 months ago
@jirihnidek Click on the site title in the middle. I'll admit that this isn't very discoverable, and needs a bit more research (it does become an extruded button when you hover over it, though).
I think the main reason for this is that they expect most common users to search or use bookmarks rather than typing a URL. That is, they expect this to be the most used way of getting to a page.
scionicspectre 2 months ago
@scionicspectre Clicking on the title is very very hidden feature :-). BTW: I like Ctrl-L shortcut in Chrome/Chromium ... I can search or type URL immediately.
jirihnidek 2 months ago
Coolio!
fernozzle 2 months ago