Glen Beck is NOT interested in FACTS. His mission is to push his "Fear Agenda” and ignorance without the desire or the need for facts. Facts are an "Inconvenient Truth" that gets in the way of his fanaticism.
Net Neutrality is EXACTLY what Beck "says" he wants but then falsely claims it is the exact opposite.
Here are the facts:
"Net Neutrality is the guiding principle that preserves the free and open Internet.
Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may NOT DISCRIMINATE between different kinds of content and applications online. It guarantees a level playing field FOR ALL websites and Internet technologies"
I honestly don't think he's dumb; I think he's just one of those people who forms an opinion about an issue after looking into it for thrity seconds or less. Unfortunately, he then gets to broadcast his less-than-informed opinions on the air, and other people who don't look into things can't tell the difference.
Glen Beck wasn't told that Net Neutrality is currently in place and that it's being threatened. He'll be pissed when his internet bill is $300 and 5x slower.
For the love of offspring, I hope ALL of you are joking. Let us be clear about something: merely stating your opinion and vague reasoning DOES NOT change opposing opinions.
However, it DOES serve to: 1.) rile the opposition into forming a positive feedback loop with you, and 2.) produce a pleasant sensation. This is mental sex, and the people you hate most are your partners.
Everything out of your mouth is a display of masturbation in the hopes of eliciting sex. Get help, you addicts.
This is all about the left wanting to get their message out and shutting down any website that does not fall in steep with that message is. Remember. It's all GWB's fault and the left can do no wrong!
being scared or terrified of marxism today or some type of soviet style control in america would be like being scared of osama bin laden and al qeada in 2070. before i talk any further i just wanna tell my overlords at comcast how much i love them and love how when they say my phone, TV and internet will cost 160$ a month and seeing the bill come and it being $225 a month is awesome. why not pay another $100 for the internet? i wasnt born into the nobility so im not worthy of having free speech
The thought of the internet providers muscling people out of their service with usury is kind of frightening, a legitimate fear and an actual threat to freedom of speech.
@TheyHearUsNow Net Neutrality, freedom is inherent in the name itself. Are you just too dumb or do you not understand it. Please read what it is before commenting like an idiot.
it sounds like glenn beck is talking about his own viewers..sitting in the basement banging on the computer, eating cheetohs while mom is upstairs sleeping it off
@DivineTrash81 --- Well duh! Oxymarxist is a made up word created as a play on the word oxymoron to make a point, so its not semantically correct in that regard. However, in the context of the conversation in which the term "oxymarxist" was created, it does make sense and match up with oxymoron, as the term was created to humorously point out that the term "Net Neutrality" is in fact a OXYMORON. Government passing regulations is NEVER neutral!
@DivineTrash81 ------- Calling sweeping Federal regulations the "Net Neutrality Act" is an oxymoron. Any regulations by their very definition can NEVER be neutral. Why is that such a difficult concept to understand? Government regulators must choose winners and losers by a set of criteria which may or may not be in the best public interest. You may want to trust big government with more power over the net, but by my experience, that is an extremely naive and foolish trust to have.......
@bjjuhl We shouldn't put so much faith in the so-called free market. Lest we forget that a lack of regulation has brought us the financial meltdown, the BP oil spill and in communications, the consolidation and homogenization of broadcasting. Keep in mind also that there is little competition out there. While I'd like to think Comcast's misdeeds would hurt the company, the fact is that in many places, consumers have at best 2 options for ISPs.
@DivineTrash81 --- Actually it is the opposite that is the case. Over regulation of the phone and cable industries is what has created our current crop of over-sized corporate monsters. Every time regulations are passed on a particular industry, the medium to small companies in that industry suffer more than the larger companies. All regulations have compliance costs, and larger companies can always absorb those costs more effectively because of scale. More John Stossel, and less Marx please.
@bjjuhl You are fundamentally incorrect. Beginning with the the Fowler-led FCC in the 1980s, what we've seen is massive deregulation of the communication industries that has effectively concentrated power within a few corporate firms, killed localism and drastically narrowed the scope of public discourse. The clearest example is the 1996 Telecom Act, a sweeping piece of deregulatory legislation that eliminated national ownership caps. What happened? The Clear Channelization of radio, for one.
@bjjuhl Comcast is particularly problematic given their domination of nearly all facets of the market. Especially with the acquisition of NBC/Universal, they have far too much power, with stakes in production, exhibition and distribution of broadcast content, not to mention their stranglehold on the cable and ISP market.
@DivineTrash81 --- As for ignorance, I find it ignorant to believe that government can regulate "freedom" in an industry better than the free market can. As companies like Comcast mis-behave and become too over-bearing in how they provide their services, their reputation will suffer accordingly and they will begin to lose customers. You would be much more constructive educating the public where ever you can of any "fiddling" rather than pushing for Fed control over the net.
So we HAVE to have so-called "Net Neutrality" regulations because big bad evil corporations MIGHT in the future fiddle with bandwidths between competitors, maybe. Sorry, new regulations rarely if ever increase freedom and always have negative unforeseen consequences. Young Turk seems to be the definition of ignorance on this issue.
@DivineTrash81 --- OxyMarxist is another way to say oxymoron. Marxism always claims to be for freedom, when they have always without fail ended up being the opposite of freedom, thus an oxymarxist....
I'm sorry but people saying that this is only the means to control ISPs is not direct control of the internet are fucking retarded. China doesn't control the entire internet, they do however control the means to connect. That is IRRELEVANT. It's like saying there's no laws against driving but all the roads and access ways are highly regulated. Totally nonsensical, totally logically flawed, totally dangerous to internet freedom. Keep up the good work, jackass.
You can always count on these honest men for the truth...yeah right. Learn about this issue beyond the spin. I don't like Beck much, but he's right about this one. "net neutrality" is as ironically named a load of tripe as the "patriot act". The Government has decided that the system we have now is too free, and it needs to have the power to decide who gets bandwidth. Basically it's a scheme for control. They resent the diversity of ideas we have access to, and want to be gate keepers.
Net neutrality has been in place since the days of dial-up and is comparable to the right of free speech. The only folks interested in altering the internet from its current state are large corporations.
Again, it's been around for a long time. The whole point of net neutrality is that the contents of the internet can't be tampered with. And yes, that includes by the government itself. It's worked since the 90's. I see no point in changing things.
@DrTallTimber Net Neutrality is a new law. It has not 'been around for a long time'. Get with it. I am not talking about it's point, or it's intent. I am talking about what it does, not what they intend it to do. Prohibition was 'intended' to make us all moral and sober. It was repealed.
The debate over net neutrality is new, but its principles are very old. Despite what Alex Jones or (insert guru, deity, etc. here) says, there's no hidden motive. I definitely wouldn't advocate blind faith in any institution, but sometimes the government builds a national park and that's all it is. A nice park.
And sometimes it is a scheme for control. The internet is neutral now, that is the ironic part. The "neutral net" would be controlled. Do you have any problem accessing websites that are blocked/slow right now? That is, in its current supposedly non-neutral state? I don't, and if I did, I would get another provider. The government wants to again, limit the diversity of ideas in the media, and return us to the state we had decades ago.
The government isn't the party that's taking the initiative in this situation. It's Comcast that took this issue to court in an attempt to change an existing law. Apparently the internet in its current state isn't generating enough profit for them...
@DrTallTimber HTML and all the other protocols that make this page possible would NEVER have developed if they had to wait on government committees for approval.
The .com in the domain means COMMERCIAL. That is what built the web. That is what stoked it's phenomenal growth!!!
Yes, and net neutrality protects the private parties you're talking about.
The government IS NOT taking over the internet or altering the relationship they've had to it since its genesis. Service providers have not had the right to control, censor, or manipulate the contents of the internet for almost twenty years. Why are you so adamant that they be granted that freedom NOW? Was this something that bothered you 15 years ago? Probably not.
@DrTallTimber "The government IS NOT taking over the internet or altering the relationship they've had to it since its genesis." You either don't know what you are talking about, or choose not to care. It is altering the relationship. You really think the government wants to help you, don't you? Companies (the people you buy all your stuff from) are out to get you and the government (the people who collect a third of your wages) are just trying to help you. At least that's what they 'intend' do.
@DrTallTimber You are simply wrong. Maybe you just want to believe that everything will be ok. Nothing could ever go wrong. No one does bad things, especially people who work for the government, right? They are only doing what is in our best interest, right. Net Neutrality is a euphamistically created law that they tell us will ensure keeping the net away from corporations (the people whoe built all this stuff your're using) and ceding control to the FCC, the people who fine milons for nipples.
ones again Cenk you show us how you are a FUCKING MORON! now, i know you never graduated from kindergarten because they dont have schools in czechoslovakia where you are from so ill take you by the hand and spell it out for you. Glenn Beck is against "net neutrality". "net neutrality" is the idea of restricting internet freedom and putting it into government control. So glenn beck, technically would be FOR INTERNET FREEDOM. What you using for brains boy? Obamas feces?
No, Net Neutrality is for keeping the internet the way it currently is. Right now companies cant favor one internet site over the other and slow down sites they dislike, in other words they are 'neutral'.
Without Net Neutrality they can choose specific sites to give priority to, basically being 'biased' towards other sides.
I agree Glenn Beck probably is for keeping the internet the way it is, he's just confused on the term of net neutrality.
@MisterDoctorNerd You think the government made it that way?? The internet is built by private companies and people! It's all private!!! You're asking the FCC, the people who freaked out about Janet Jackson's nipple, to run the internet!!!
@TreeLuvBurdpu exactly, the internet is driven by the free market, which I am 100% behind. how free will a market be if ISPs like Comcast can bully it's competition? If the net cannot stay open and neutral, websites like Hulu and Netflix will disappear very quickly, because they compete with Comcast's TV and streaming services and Comcast will either force charge more for subscribers to access, or charge Netflix ridiculous amounts of money to reach it's customers. Comcast will have a monopoly.
You can't seriously believe what you are saying? Did you do any research at all on the subject of net neutrality? The Republicans are trying to GET RID OF neutrality, which means that companies can actually refuse to let their customers access information and websites of their competitors or opponents, or simply make the load speeds much slower so that you get a faster connection to sites they prefer or that pay them more. These corporations are a threat to liberty if unchecked.
@Robertz1986 What you are talking about is called "price fixing". You are supposing that the government will set 'fairer' prices than the ones charged by the people who are actually providing the service.
Yes I have studied the subject of so-called "Net Neutrality". I have also read a few history books. I also watched the web grow from nothing to the greatest free exchange of values the world has ever known, all without government intervention.
Net neutrality has been in place since the days of dial-up! It's a government-protected freedom that we don't want to lose. If you are enjoying the internet NOW, you are enjoying the benefits of net neutrality.
How brilliant is a guy who believes an impossible theory of evolution rather than the obvious, intelligent design? Turk believes a planet where food grows on trees, drinkable water flows across the land, rain cleans the skies and animals provide company to amazingly complex humans just occurred for no reason. Uh huh. I don't think commenting on the intelligence of Glenn Beck is the most wise move to make until getting the basics down there, Turk.
@randalusa If your apparent love of God weren't coupled with the stink of so much hatred and contempt for your fellow man I might even take you seriously. This is one thing you have in common with Beck. Another commonality is that you don't seem to know what a Marxist is. Like Beck you also have a talent for the non sequitor. What does anyone's belief in how the universe got here have to do with Net Neutrality?
Congrats on your graduation. You are much more educated than Beck. Please show it.
@randalusa "Impossible"? You say that because you believe we originated from clay that was breathed on by some divine being? That's certainly more possible than the findings of hundreds of years of extensive, interactive
study of the real world via the scientific method, to which we owe much of our quality of life today, huh? But that's too complicated, let's all just all pretend the recently-mapped human genome doesn't completely corroborate evolution, right?
@rujiel17 You are living a lie brought on by the greatest con of all time thanks to a group of Marxist deceivers owning the world's major media outlets. The genome does NOTHING to corroborate the lie of spontaneous generation. Quite the contrary. Moreover, not even the liberals holding doctoral degrees and pretending that evolution is a viable theory will dare say out loud that it has been proven. Think again. Turk is either one of the liars, too lazy to study or extremely gullible. So are you.
@randalusa Those you deem "too lazy to study" are the ones now creating cancer cures and AIDS treatments, whereas creation "scientists" have produced nothing of benefit to society. Those of us living in the 21st (let alone 20th) century have seen evolution nothing but corroborated from all angles.
Toyota EVOLVED two distinct new species of flower to regulate factory conditions. Google it. In 2006 biologists recreated a species of butterfly from two hypothetical ancestors. Beck's deceived you.
@randalusa cont. "I don't think commenting on the intelligence of Glenn Beck is the most wise move to make until getting the basics down there,"
When bullshitters like Beck enter the realm of science, they're exposed in full. Beck doesn't know shit about biology. A high school teacher could handle his rhetoric. Beck's logos and ethos are in shambles. His only hope is to push so hard for pathos that only the most uneducated will believe him! Hilarious.
(continued from prev post) then you don't own the thing to begin with). And ultimate freedom is a slogan that has no basis in reality.
Furthermore, education is controlled by the Marxist rules. From their, your own children are lied to about creation (as if a planet where food grows on trees just happened by accident), liked to about morality, lied to about history. Yeah, we sure want Democrats regulating the internet, they of broadcasting neutrality fame (remember the "Fairness Doctrine"?).
Are the Young Turks outright lying here? Why would we need a law to enforce what already exists? Nay, just take a look at who is behind "Net Neutrality." Yup, the Democrats. And we have reached a time in history when Democrats are nothing but deceitful atheist devotees of modern Marxism. In modern Marxism, you get to decide where to live and work, but home ownership is still illegal (if they can take away your house for not paying off the government every year (continued).
You understand that we ALREADY HAVE Net Neutrality, and that the Republicans have been trying to abolish it right? The dispute here is whether or not you believe that speech on the internet should be unregulated, as the government supports, or regulated by the preferences of major corporations, which is what the Republicans support. The "Democrats, Atheists, and Marxists" as you put it, are supporting individual liberty, while the Republicans are supporting fascism, as usual..
You understand that we ALREADY HAVE Net Neutrality, and that the Republicans have been trying to abolish it right? The dispute here is whether or not you believe that speech on the internet should be unregulated, as the government supports, or regulated by the preferences of major corporations, which is what the Republicans support. The "Democrats, Atheists, and Marxists" as you put it, are supporting individual liberty, while the Republicans are supporting fascism, as usual..
so if I understand Beck in order to call yourself free press you must not be in favor of marxism?So I guess if the guy had a publication on the free market he would be all for it. I also love how he so loosely use the terms marxist and socialist.
2 choices: 1. listen to the turks in this case (if not every case) and deliver net neutrality through, giving the FCC, the same overseer of censorships of bleeps, political views, & anything obsene for television. ya know sick shit. option 2. keep the "Fascist Capitalist" system the Turks call & either you yourself demand freedom online from the companies or cancel in mass. There will be another to take Comcasts place, companies follow money (obvious), & if ppl demand it, they will adhere :)
You are quite a hypocrite aren't you omegahunterx? @waneboon And conservative is a racist .braintumor. And corporations are fascist..lol.. I, or anyone else with any intelligence can get racist from my comment, since I never even mentioned race at all..lol I am through wasting type space on you
omegahuntrex, Who typed your progressive/ Marxist approved excuse for a reply to my comment.?..You could not have typed it yourself..It takes more than 2 braincells to work a typewriter...It is completely backwards and describes you to a T. Do you ever take your head from the sand.?.if you do, I'm sure you will find that you now look like the big bird you imitate with your self imposed blind behavior.
"Liberals"(Statist in reality) have a nauseating brand of smug ignorance.
@waneboon And conservative is a racist braintumor. Stop with the namecalling, it just make you look bad and everyone can do it.
Google net neutrality, stop blaming people for being commie when you don't like what they are saying. I can call you a corpporate fascist like republicans are! it's not hard at all!
Egypt pulled the plug on the internet a few weeks ago. They want to install a internet kill switch in the US. If they kill the internet on us you can pretty much assume we are at war with our government. What excuse (besides national security) could they possibly come up with?
Btw...hey "young turks" theres nothing young about you, ya sloppy fat old jackalope :) stop false advertizing before i get obummer to regulate your old saggy butt.
No you're def right government should def be the only ones who can control what is on the internet. Just like Obummer did when he paid off google to get his info about obummercare ontop of everyone elses info about it. coz thats def not regulating and monopolizing the internet. hahahahahahaha
People always talk about big government invading peoples lives. But im equally concerned with big corporations coming into our lives. The end of net neutrality is the end of the one truely free and innovative medium in the world today.
Only in the USA could a dumbass like Glen Beck get a television show to spew his bullshit.
It's remarkable how much of a difference the media makes in polarising an issue, even when it's ultimate goal is the same: "An internet free from control, censorship and over-regulation". The people like Glenn Beck and Fox News, with a distinct bias against the government, get told that the government wants to do that, whereas the truth is the companies want to do that and the government want to stop it. Remarkable how much a single bias can blind you to the detail.
The guy talking here is a complete and utter idiot!... Freedom through Government regulation...riiiight...that always happens.....wake up idiots who think (not think parrot) the same sort of statist crap coming out of this guys pie hole.
I don't give a damn if you fools shoot the feet off your own internet freedom...just keep your government loving statist hands off mine!
@waneboon You could have spent 5 seconds Googling "net neutrality" to see that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and avoided looking like a reactionary dumbass.
Wheeee! The internet is just fine, a few corporations have some trivial disputes (in a manner that won't be "fixed" by net neturality) with each other, and now Cenk wants the FCC to control the internet because of some bad things that might happen.
The bad things haven't even happened. In 30 years they'll be talking about the "wild days before net neutrality" and will tell tall tales about bandwidth barons. Cenk is insufferably standard and institutional in his thought.
@Rawbdog - Redneck? Sorry, I'm from Seattle, and if it upsets you that their is no basis for Net Neutrality then explain what's wrong with my arguments. It works a lot better then looking like an upset statist who is kicking and screaming for special entitlements.
So wait, as a European this is confusing me. A representative of corporations, who explicitly said he was one, told this person that net neutrality is bad and he believes it? How is it possible that such a thing can be said on television when it's not even confirmed one bit? Wouldn't this give a lot of people a flawed perspective about the whole ordeal?
@cakeface579....if you want to know what is in "obamacare" you should read the actual bill itself to see what is in it...looking at a biased site set up by the government who want to convince you to accept it no matter what isnt allowing people to make an unbiased informed decision for themselves. "anticommunist" sites are biased but so are government sites who only allow you one side of the argument...read the actual bill
@shikamoo The government's role is to protect freedom. When they protect freedom, that is, I guess technically government control... but it's the right kind. That's a central tenet of libertarian philosophy.
@shikamoo GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER ISPS = INTERNET FREEDOM. Yes. GOVERNMENT STOPPING ISPS FROM DISCRIMINATING TRAFFIC TO THEIR OWN SITES = INTERNET FREEDOM. Yes.
WRITING IN CAPS AND MAKING ORWELL REFERENCES = AN ARGUEMENT? No.
Well... it's government control instead of corporate control... ISP's want to change the way internet service works in order to make more money. Net neutrality is about keeping it the way it is now.
@shikamoo gotta love that double think! Its doubleplusgood! Keep it coming comrades! When does the two minutes hate start? Oh, i forgot, glenn beck is going off the air, so we have no one left to hate.....gee thats a problem.
@shikamoo Are you that dumb? The whole point of net neutrality is there being a law in place that prevents the large ISPs from restricting access to websites that aren't a part of their ring of partners.
@Pwnzistor Yes, because government control of the Internet has just been awesome in every other case where it's invoked. Iran, China, Russia, Egypt, Libya, Cuba, you name it. And don't delude yourself to think somehow the US would be the one and only exception.
@shikamoo No no, fucking no.. Go read the actual document yourself. The law disallows internet companies from regulating what you can and cannot easily access on the internet.. How much research have you actually done on this? Are you ACTUALLY going to go read the house resolution act that this is all about? Or am I just banging my head against your stubbornness? This is too important an issue to dissent just based on your hatred of the Obama administration. This is actually a pretty big deal.
How much did you pay to have your little studio and camera action get out to the people?? Who did you pay? The internet is just a few powerful computers, Google, Yahoo, and a few others. The people's tax payer money was used to develop the internet and we the people will have an equal opportunity to access and inform, as big corporations.
One thing I think most people fail to mention, is that when right wing corporate shills talk about protecting freedom, or keeping taxes low on "people", they really mean big corporations. Because corporations are inf act considered to be people, with the current corporate personhood laws and all.
So what is this saying to the people when Obama does the very thing he claims to be totally against. Well it is saying that the people can not buy preference on the internet BUT THE GOVERNMENT and OBAMA CAN. Stop Obama and the Communists from trying to enslave the American People! Fight The Power!
@alexisdarko9999 If I'm looking up "obamacare" I don't want the first results to be confused blatherings about communism, I would like to know what the official government records have to say about it first. *Googles "obamacare"* Guess what the first few results are? The first is Wikipedia and the second is "The Truth About ObamaCare! What the liberal media aren't telling you" The 3rd result is Obamacare411 which must be where the communism kicks in! 3 is divisible by 6! And three 6s makes 666!
how can Obama be for freedom of the internet when he is the one who went and bought off google so that the word obamacare when searched for on google shows all the government sites for obamacare first?! He is a fraud and does not want internet freedom he wants goverment control and wants to limit freedom. Do your homework people. Which i know is hard to do now that Obama and the communits have control over the information that is on the internet. But dont give up! Fight The Power!!
@alexisdarko9999 I'm guessing that since you're ranting about the extreme left, you're part of the extreme right? So probably a fascist? The people who are headed by dictators and a strong central government? Yes, you make perfect sense.
Net Neutrality is not trying to change anything net neutrality wants to keep it (the internet) the way it is. That is why this guy is exactly right and Glen Beck is an idiot.
Let me explain Net-Neutrality since I see a great deal of dumb shits here who don't understand it. Net-Neutrality is the concept that all content on the net is treated equally by ISPs. Nothing is censored and nothing is given preferential treatment.
The regulation of the FCC is NOT about regulating the content you dumb fucks, its about insuring that the ISPs don't censor any content or give preferential treatment to any content. That's all.
@RondoRaven I know, Cenk works for MSNBC, a company just about to be taken over by comcast. Why oh why would he tell you the truth about net neutrality, which if am correct is supported by Verizon and google. Gullible people will pay the fees to their own capture if sold by a trusted mouth piece.
Cenk, I think you and your guys are the ones trying to change the internet. The medium is evolving for better or worse and as a libertarian, I say let it go. Comcast, verizon and at&t alone cannot shape the internet, only govt with its pseudo fair rules and regulations can
Does TYT not realize the Orwellian language he's employing when he thinks one "regulates" a situation into "freedom"? Freedom is the absence of regulation; they are diametrically-opposed. If you're going to argue a belief, TYT, at least be internally consistent.
What's ironic, is TYT probably fancies himself as a defender of civil liberties but is ushering in a police state.
Wow you are dumber than shit. Regulation is to make sure mega corporations and the wealthy elite don't use their money/power to shift the playing field in their favor and fuck everything up. Like they did when the goddamn banking system got so deregulated and cause the economic crash.
Oh I guess you just want to trust the super wealth to do the right thing, you naive cunt. In a capitalistic society profits are more important that people. That is why you need regulation.
Contrary to popular belief, calling someone "dumber than shit" is not a viable substitute for a substantive argument. What's more, being a "naive cunt" would be, like the 175 million people murdered by their own gov'ts in the past century, trusting an entity that holds all the guns and power to do the right thing and not take advantage of citizens (how's that public debt working out for ya? do you know what your share of the debt is?). But, instead of attacking this very
blatant threat, you think entities which, by definition, cannot steal your money, the definition of taxation, only attempt to give you a good offer from which you will subjectively benefit.
Also, the current economic depression was a result of long-run saving disincentives caused by the Federal Reserve, most of which occurred after the Nixon shock in the 70s. Americans have consumed so much and saved so little that we've entered capital consumption territory wherein our
standard of living will not increase and, infact, decrease because there is not enough present real savings to sustain current capital capacity.
Reading the rest of your comments, I can tell you have a blind faith in gov't. That is one of the most dangerous ideologies imaginable. You're peddling and ushering in the next police state. Is this what your life will amount to--the dog that licks the boots of your 'betters'?
And you have blind faith in the mega corporations to do the right thing with out regulation? That's a fucking joke. Most of the politicians are bought so your distrust of the government would logically lead you to distrust those pulling their strings if you weren't a stupid teabagging shit.
That's like saying you fear the little girl at the lemonade stand. She might manipulate your access to her lemonade. Oh, noes!
The only entity you should fear is the one that is "legally authorized" to tax, jail, and execute you. I have nothing to fear from private enterprise. It is only when they attach themselves to gov't that they become a threat, and it's precisely because they then take on the characteristics of gov't.
corporations" didn't get "mega" through crony capitalism with the gov't. Look at the gov't's track record--they rent seek. We have no reason to believe they can be trusted; indeed, we have every reason to believe they cannot be.
If you don't know what I'm talking about when I speak about bandwidth access and discrimination as it relates to price tiering, I suggest you stop watching media outlets that only agree with you. Look at me here on Cenk's stupid channel. The man is
dishonest and eternally pushing Socialism and the demise of American freedom. But, I'm still here, keeping an open mind and challenging myself with multiple sources. Can you say the same? How many free market proponents do you regularly listen to? How much of economics do you actually understand? Wouldn't it be wise to understand a free market frontwards and backwards before you condemn it and walk alongside Cenk the road to material impoverishment and destruction?
How stupid are some of you people? I mean really? "Net Neutrality" is nothing more than a grab for government control yet again. You don't have to like or agree with Glenn Beck, but for the liberals, ask yourselves, would you want the type of new power this Obama Administration is seeking in the hands of another GWB? Use your brains people, your freedoms are being taking and be so done to your "thunderous applause"..
You apparently don't even understand the concept of Net-Neutrality. Its amazing how many dumb fucks like you there are on this vid posting about how Net-Neutrality is a bad thing. You must all be undercover Teabaggers serving your corporate masters.
the FCC already regulates so no one is talking about inserting control. they are talking about adding new rules, like for wireless broadband. this is NOT like the gov putting up a stop sign or controlling traffic. this is them saying corporations must build all roads for all people, not private HOV lanes for the people who pay more. let's debate that, because THAT is what net neutrality is about. will the FCC screw up the regulation? will they do it effectively? will there be loopholes? etc.
My problem with that is it removes the price system. The price system is the heart of Capitalism; it's what sends the signals for production, investment, borrowing, and consumption. It is the precise mechanism that rationally allocates resources. If you step in the way of that, the private internet investment and production will slowly decay, what happens to any industry wherein price ceilings are placed. This ultimately leads to gov't takeover when the private sector doesn't
Also your reply to dwyerb was fucking stupid. The FCC is not doing anything to the pricing system of ISPs you jackass. You're just pulling that concept right out of your fucking ass to try and come up with some sort of convoluted strawman argument. In reality we can all see your just another corporate shill, bending over and taking it up the ass from the ultra wealthy and voting against self interest.
provide the service anymore (because the gov't arbitrarily made it unprofitable).
If you believe in this equality over price discrimination, then why not apply that to all sectors of our economy? There's a name for that--it's called Democratic Socialism wherein workers and consumers have equal influence in the market no matter how efficient and hard-working they might personally be. This is a recipe for disaster and the destruction of any society.
@zebbedi The only moron is the one starring you back in the face on a daily basis. You'll come to this realization one day soon. Keep your head in the sand, because when you finally take it out, you'll only get and have exactly what people like yourself deserve, misery of your own making.
Don't let the government control the internet! Keep the internet free!!! The government doesnt want you to hear both sides of any issue so that you can make up your own mind. They want you to ONLY hear their side so you have noothing to counter it with. Stop Them!! Fight The Power!!
Goddamn you are a moron. If the government doesn't protect free speech on the internet the ISPs like Comcast, Verizon and others can censor whatever the fuck they want.
Net neutrality is NOT internet freedom. it is regulation and as you all should know regulation resticts freedom. for people who claim to not want "authority" you are all about rules and regulation which IS authority. Really I thought you all were smarter then that.
You obviously don't even understand the fucking concept of net-neutrality so you don't have much room to be commenting on other people's intelligence.
Glen Beck is the dumbest person alive. His stupidity should be criminal and he should go to jail.
athma12 1 month ago
Glen Beck is NOT interested in FACTS. His mission is to push his "Fear Agenda” and ignorance without the desire or the need for facts. Facts are an "Inconvenient Truth" that gets in the way of his fanaticism.
YourAvonCareer 3 months ago
Net Neutrality is EXACTLY what Beck "says" he wants but then falsely claims it is the exact opposite.
Here are the facts:
"Net Neutrality is the guiding principle that preserves the free and open Internet.
Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may NOT DISCRIMINATE between different kinds of content and applications online. It guarantees a level playing field FOR ALL websites and Internet technologies"
From: Save the Internet . com
YourAvonCareer 3 months ago 2
I honestly don't think he's dumb; I think he's just one of those people who forms an opinion about an issue after looking into it for thrity seconds or less. Unfortunately, he then gets to broadcast his less-than-informed opinions on the air, and other people who don't look into things can't tell the difference.
ShalomDove 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
"dumbest guy alive" - haha, great
WAAAAAAAAAAAY 5 months ago
Glen Beck wasn't told that Net Neutrality is currently in place and that it's being threatened. He'll be pissed when his internet bill is $300 and 5x slower.
tourneytike13 6 months ago 2
what i can't understand is that over 2 mil people are watching his show.
Some people in America are fucked up or need to watch the news oh wait....
MsFederer123 6 months ago
For the love of offspring, I hope ALL of you are joking. Let us be clear about something: merely stating your opinion and vague reasoning DOES NOT change opposing opinions.
However, it DOES serve to: 1.) rile the opposition into forming a positive feedback loop with you, and 2.) produce a pleasant sensation. This is mental sex, and the people you hate most are your partners.
Everything out of your mouth is a display of masturbation in the hopes of eliciting sex. Get help, you addicts.
RantsAmI 6 months ago
This is all about the left wanting to get their message out and shutting down any website that does not fall in steep with that message is. Remember. It's all GWB's fault and the left can do no wrong!
zLOSTNOMOREz 6 months ago
@zLOSTNOMOREz Obvious troll is obvious.
CallMeRiverton 6 months ago
being scared or terrified of marxism today or some type of soviet style control in america would be like being scared of osama bin laden and al qeada in 2070. before i talk any further i just wanna tell my overlords at comcast how much i love them and love how when they say my phone, TV and internet will cost 160$ a month and seeing the bill come and it being $225 a month is awesome. why not pay another $100 for the internet? i wasnt born into the nobility so im not worthy of having free speech
pat442389 7 months ago
Thank you Cenk!
The thought of the internet providers muscling people out of their service with usury is kind of frightening, a legitimate fear and an actual threat to freedom of speech.
Piriathy 7 months ago
Maybe if you got out from under that closed off rock you would find out.
Comsofficer 7 months ago
YOU TELL 'EM CENK!!! glenn beck is an asshole, without a doubt!
WTF9657489 7 months ago
glenn beck is such a dipshit. I think we all know what kind of audience he appeals to what with the puppet and all.
WampaDubstep 8 months ago
He is against internet neutrality because the internet allows access to facts which would disprove him.
LancePoint9 8 months ago 26
we're amazed he knows what an oxymoron is. At least he's got one brain cell.
BlankSlateTV 9 months ago in playlist The fucked up mind of Glenn Beck
Net Neutrality is not freedom.
TheyHearUsNow 9 months ago
@TheyHearUsNow Net Neutrality, freedom is inherent in the name itself. Are you just too dumb or do you not understand it. Please read what it is before commenting like an idiot.
rza1m 9 months ago
it sounds like glenn beck is talking about his own viewers..sitting in the basement banging on the computer, eating cheetohs while mom is upstairs sleeping it off
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bjjuhl 9 months ago
@bjjuhl Semantically, "oxymarxist" makes no sense and doesn't meet the definition of "oxymoron."
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@DivineTrash81 --- Well duh! Oxymarxist is a made up word created as a play on the word oxymoron to make a point, so its not semantically correct in that regard. However, in the context of the conversation in which the term "oxymarxist" was created, it does make sense and match up with oxymoron, as the term was created to humorously point out that the term "Net Neutrality" is in fact a OXYMORON. Government passing regulations is NEVER neutral!
bjjuhl 9 months ago
@bjjuhl ISPs have already 'fiddled" with user access:
Verizon and Cox blocking meetwithcindy; Verizon blocking Naral ProChoice; Madison River blocking Vonage; Comcast throttling BitTorrent; AT&T censoring anti-Bush remarks on a webcast; MetroPCS blocking Skype.
In addition to looking at the definition of "oxymoron" again, you may want to take a look at "ignorance" again as well.
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@DivineTrash81 ------- Calling sweeping Federal regulations the "Net Neutrality Act" is an oxymoron. Any regulations by their very definition can NEVER be neutral. Why is that such a difficult concept to understand? Government regulators must choose winners and losers by a set of criteria which may or may not be in the best public interest. You may want to trust big government with more power over the net, but by my experience, that is an extremely naive and foolish trust to have.......
bjjuhl 9 months ago
@bjjuhl We shouldn't put so much faith in the so-called free market. Lest we forget that a lack of regulation has brought us the financial meltdown, the BP oil spill and in communications, the consolidation and homogenization of broadcasting. Keep in mind also that there is little competition out there. While I'd like to think Comcast's misdeeds would hurt the company, the fact is that in many places, consumers have at best 2 options for ISPs.
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@DivineTrash81 --- Actually it is the opposite that is the case. Over regulation of the phone and cable industries is what has created our current crop of over-sized corporate monsters. Every time regulations are passed on a particular industry, the medium to small companies in that industry suffer more than the larger companies. All regulations have compliance costs, and larger companies can always absorb those costs more effectively because of scale. More John Stossel, and less Marx please.
bjjuhl 9 months ago
@bjjuhl You are fundamentally incorrect. Beginning with the the Fowler-led FCC in the 1980s, what we've seen is massive deregulation of the communication industries that has effectively concentrated power within a few corporate firms, killed localism and drastically narrowed the scope of public discourse. The clearest example is the 1996 Telecom Act, a sweeping piece of deregulatory legislation that eliminated national ownership caps. What happened? The Clear Channelization of radio, for one.
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@bjjuhl Comcast is particularly problematic given their domination of nearly all facets of the market. Especially with the acquisition of NBC/Universal, they have far too much power, with stakes in production, exhibition and distribution of broadcast content, not to mention their stranglehold on the cable and ISP market.
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@DivineTrash81 --- As for ignorance, I find it ignorant to believe that government can regulate "freedom" in an industry better than the free market can. As companies like Comcast mis-behave and become too over-bearing in how they provide their services, their reputation will suffer accordingly and they will begin to lose customers. You would be much more constructive educating the public where ever you can of any "fiddling" rather than pushing for Fed control over the net.
bjjuhl 9 months ago
So we HAVE to have so-called "Net Neutrality" regulations because big bad evil corporations MIGHT in the future fiddle with bandwidths between competitors, maybe. Sorry, new regulations rarely if ever increase freedom and always have negative unforeseen consequences. Young Turk seems to be the definition of ignorance on this issue.
bjjuhl 9 months ago
What the hell is an "oxyMarxist?"
DivineTrash81 9 months ago
@DivineTrash81 --- OxyMarxist is another way to say oxymoron. Marxism always claims to be for freedom, when they have always without fail ended up being the opposite of freedom, thus an oxymarxist....
bjjuhl 9 months ago
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Nashhinton 10 months ago
I'm sorry but people saying that this is only the means to control ISPs is not direct control of the internet are fucking retarded. China doesn't control the entire internet, they do however control the means to connect. That is IRRELEVANT. It's like saying there's no laws against driving but all the roads and access ways are highly regulated. Totally nonsensical, totally logically flawed, totally dangerous to internet freedom. Keep up the good work, jackass.
s0beit 10 months ago
@s0beit
That driving metaphor is a tad confusing... Where I'm from, the roads are well-regulated and citizens are encouraged to use them.
DrTallTimber 9 months ago
You can always count on these honest men for the truth...yeah right. Learn about this issue beyond the spin. I don't like Beck much, but he's right about this one. "net neutrality" is as ironically named a load of tripe as the "patriot act". The Government has decided that the system we have now is too free, and it needs to have the power to decide who gets bandwidth. Basically it's a scheme for control. They resent the diversity of ideas we have access to, and want to be gate keepers.
FieldMarshalB 10 months ago
I LOVE YOU YOUNG TURK, THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT...YOU ROCK!!!!!
thefreedman 10 months ago
People who think the government running the web is a good idea should only be allowed to go to .gov sites.
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
Why do my posts always get "Error,try again"?!?!
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
Net neutrality has been in place since the days of dial-up and is comparable to the right of free speech. The only folks interested in altering the internet from its current state are large corporations.
The end.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
@DrTallTimber The web grew ONLY because the government was NOT involved. Look at porn.
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
Again, it's been around for a long time. The whole point of net neutrality is that the contents of the internet can't be tampered with. And yes, that includes by the government itself. It's worked since the 90's. I see no point in changing things.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
@DrTallTimber Net Neutrality is a new law. It has not 'been around for a long time'. Get with it. I am not talking about it's point, or it's intent. I am talking about what it does, not what they intend it to do. Prohibition was 'intended' to make us all moral and sober. It was repealed.
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
The debate over net neutrality is new, but its principles are very old. Despite what Alex Jones or (insert guru, deity, etc. here) says, there's no hidden motive. I definitely wouldn't advocate blind faith in any institution, but sometimes the government builds a national park and that's all it is. A nice park.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
@DrTallTimber
And sometimes it is a scheme for control. The internet is neutral now, that is the ironic part. The "neutral net" would be controlled. Do you have any problem accessing websites that are blocked/slow right now? That is, in its current supposedly non-neutral state? I don't, and if I did, I would get another provider. The government wants to again, limit the diversity of ideas in the media, and return us to the state we had decades ago.
FieldMarshalB 10 months ago
@FieldMarshalB
The government isn't the party that's taking the initiative in this situation. It's Comcast that took this issue to court in an attempt to change an existing law. Apparently the internet in its current state isn't generating enough profit for them...
DrTallTimber 9 months ago
@DrTallTimber HTML and all the other protocols that make this page possible would NEVER have developed if they had to wait on government committees for approval.
The .com in the domain means COMMERCIAL. That is what built the web. That is what stoked it's phenomenal growth!!!
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
Yes, and net neutrality protects the private parties you're talking about.
The government IS NOT taking over the internet or altering the relationship they've had to it since its genesis. Service providers have not had the right to control, censor, or manipulate the contents of the internet for almost twenty years. Why are you so adamant that they be granted that freedom NOW? Was this something that bothered you 15 years ago? Probably not.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
@DrTallTimber "The government IS NOT taking over the internet or altering the relationship they've had to it since its genesis." You either don't know what you are talking about, or choose not to care. It is altering the relationship. You really think the government wants to help you, don't you? Companies (the people you buy all your stuff from) are out to get you and the government (the people who collect a third of your wages) are just trying to help you. At least that's what they 'intend' do.
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
What freedoms were lost with the breakup of Standard Oil? Ma Bell?
I'm no fan of the prevailing institution, but since we're stuck with one, it ought to be maintained.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
@DrTallTimber You are simply wrong. Maybe you just want to believe that everything will be ok. Nothing could ever go wrong. No one does bad things, especially people who work for the government, right? They are only doing what is in our best interest, right. Net Neutrality is a euphamistically created law that they tell us will ensure keeping the net away from corporations (the people whoe built all this stuff your're using) and ceding control to the FCC, the people who fine milons for nipples.
TreeLuvBurdpu 10 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
No one is taking the internet out of the hands of the corporations... That's not what this is about.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
ones again Cenk you show us how you are a FUCKING MORON! now, i know you never graduated from kindergarten because they dont have schools in czechoslovakia where you are from so ill take you by the hand and spell it out for you. Glenn Beck is against "net neutrality". "net neutrality" is the idea of restricting internet freedom and putting it into government control. So glenn beck, technically would be FOR INTERNET FREEDOM. What you using for brains boy? Obamas feces?
Porojukaha 10 months ago
@Porojukaha
No, Net Neutrality is for keeping the internet the way it currently is. Right now companies cant favor one internet site over the other and slow down sites they dislike, in other words they are 'neutral'.
Without Net Neutrality they can choose specific sites to give priority to, basically being 'biased' towards other sides.
I agree Glenn Beck probably is for keeping the internet the way it is, he's just confused on the term of net neutrality.
BunsterByne 10 months ago
People already control the internet,..they are called MODS!! got a major facepalm moment on this issue-_-
cwongchung 11 months ago
"Americans have never had more access to more outlets to express themselves than they do right now... anyone can say whatever they want."
and we want to keep it that that way. THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF NET NEUTRALITY!"
MisterDoctorNerd 11 months ago
@MisterDoctorNerd You think the government made it that way?? The internet is built by private companies and people! It's all private!!! You're asking the FCC, the people who freaked out about Janet Jackson's nipple, to run the internet!!!
TreeLuvBurdpu 11 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu exactly, the internet is driven by the free market, which I am 100% behind. how free will a market be if ISPs like Comcast can bully it's competition? If the net cannot stay open and neutral, websites like Hulu and Netflix will disappear very quickly, because they compete with Comcast's TV and streaming services and Comcast will either force charge more for subscribers to access, or charge Netflix ridiculous amounts of money to reach it's customers. Comcast will have a monopoly.
MisterDoctorNerd 11 months ago
129 idiots
DerrenBrown100 11 months ago
I watched the hearings. C-SPAN people.
DystopianEmpire01 11 months ago
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kingrotty 11 months ago
Man I am glad I am canadian....
Dezec 11 months ago
You are going to get ride of the tyranny of the salesman by invoking the tyranny of the sheriff.
YoungTurks have this completely wrong.
"If people can't be trusted with freedom, how can the be trusted with power?" --Anonymous
"This is how liberty dies, with resounding applause" --Princess Amadala
Markly and Gore have created a fake boogeyman in order to secure greater government controls and YoungTurks is their lapdog.
YoungTurks = Loyalist
TreeLuvBurdpu 1 year ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu
You can't seriously believe what you are saying? Did you do any research at all on the subject of net neutrality? The Republicans are trying to GET RID OF neutrality, which means that companies can actually refuse to let their customers access information and websites of their competitors or opponents, or simply make the load speeds much slower so that you get a faster connection to sites they prefer or that pay them more. These corporations are a threat to liberty if unchecked.
Robertz1986 11 months ago
@Robertz1986 What you are talking about is called "price fixing". You are supposing that the government will set 'fairer' prices than the ones charged by the people who are actually providing the service.
Yes I have studied the subject of so-called "Net Neutrality". I have also read a few history books. I also watched the web grow from nothing to the greatest free exchange of values the world has ever known, all without government intervention.
TreeLuvBurdpu 11 months ago
@TreeLuvBurdpu Without government intervention? The internet was started by the government!
steelersguy74 11 months ago
@steelersguy74 That was in 1969. No one used it for 22 years. Until the web.
TreeLuvBurdpu 11 months ago
@steelersguy74 And the internet (tcp/ip) was only started by the gov't (in 1969) because companies were banned from providing it.
TreeLuvBurdpu 11 months ago
Net neutrality has been in place since the days of dial-up! It's a government-protected freedom that we don't want to lose. If you are enjoying the internet NOW, you are enjoying the benefits of net neutrality.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
How brilliant is a guy who believes an impossible theory of evolution rather than the obvious, intelligent design? Turk believes a planet where food grows on trees, drinkable water flows across the land, rain cleans the skies and animals provide company to amazingly complex humans just occurred for no reason. Uh huh. I don't think commenting on the intelligence of Glenn Beck is the most wise move to make until getting the basics down there, Turk.
randalusa 1 year ago
@randalusa If your apparent love of God weren't coupled with the stink of so much hatred and contempt for your fellow man I might even take you seriously. This is one thing you have in common with Beck. Another commonality is that you don't seem to know what a Marxist is. Like Beck you also have a talent for the non sequitor. What does anyone's belief in how the universe got here have to do with Net Neutrality?
Congrats on your graduation. You are much more educated than Beck. Please show it.
ezzerdamoose 1 year ago
@randalusa "Impossible"? You say that because you believe we originated from clay that was breathed on by some divine being? That's certainly more possible than the findings of hundreds of years of extensive, interactive
study of the real world via the scientific method, to which we owe much of our quality of life today, huh? But that's too complicated, let's all just all pretend the recently-mapped human genome doesn't completely corroborate evolution, right?
rujiel17 1 year ago
@rujiel17 You are living a lie brought on by the greatest con of all time thanks to a group of Marxist deceivers owning the world's major media outlets. The genome does NOTHING to corroborate the lie of spontaneous generation. Quite the contrary. Moreover, not even the liberals holding doctoral degrees and pretending that evolution is a viable theory will dare say out loud that it has been proven. Think again. Turk is either one of the liars, too lazy to study or extremely gullible. So are you.
randalusa 10 months ago
@randalusa Those you deem "too lazy to study" are the ones now creating cancer cures and AIDS treatments, whereas creation "scientists" have produced nothing of benefit to society. Those of us living in the 21st (let alone 20th) century have seen evolution nothing but corroborated from all angles.
Toyota EVOLVED two distinct new species of flower to regulate factory conditions. Google it. In 2006 biologists recreated a species of butterfly from two hypothetical ancestors. Beck's deceived you.
rujiel17 10 months ago
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rujiel17 10 months ago
@randalusa cont. "I don't think commenting on the intelligence of Glenn Beck is the most wise move to make until getting the basics down there,"
When bullshitters like Beck enter the realm of science, they're exposed in full. Beck doesn't know shit about biology. A high school teacher could handle his rhetoric. Beck's logos and ethos are in shambles. His only hope is to push so hard for pathos that only the most uneducated will believe him! Hilarious.
rujiel17 1 year ago
(continued from prev post) then you don't own the thing to begin with). And ultimate freedom is a slogan that has no basis in reality.
Furthermore, education is controlled by the Marxist rules. From their, your own children are lied to about creation (as if a planet where food grows on trees just happened by accident), liked to about morality, lied to about history. Yeah, we sure want Democrats regulating the internet, they of broadcasting neutrality fame (remember the "Fairness Doctrine"?).
randalusa 1 year ago
@randalusa
Would you prefer a theocracy in place of a democracy? It sure sounds like it...
Yeah, I don't think I like your definition of freedom.
DrTallTimber 10 months ago
Are the Young Turks outright lying here? Why would we need a law to enforce what already exists? Nay, just take a look at who is behind "Net Neutrality." Yup, the Democrats. And we have reached a time in history when Democrats are nothing but deceitful atheist devotees of modern Marxism. In modern Marxism, you get to decide where to live and work, but home ownership is still illegal (if they can take away your house for not paying off the government every year (continued).
randalusa 1 year ago
@randalusa
You understand that we ALREADY HAVE Net Neutrality, and that the Republicans have been trying to abolish it right? The dispute here is whether or not you believe that speech on the internet should be unregulated, as the government supports, or regulated by the preferences of major corporations, which is what the Republicans support. The "Democrats, Atheists, and Marxists" as you put it, are supporting individual liberty, while the Republicans are supporting fascism, as usual..
Robertz1986 11 months ago
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@randalusa
You understand that we ALREADY HAVE Net Neutrality, and that the Republicans have been trying to abolish it right? The dispute here is whether or not you believe that speech on the internet should be unregulated, as the government supports, or regulated by the preferences of major corporations, which is what the Republicans support. The "Democrats, Atheists, and Marxists" as you put it, are supporting individual liberty, while the Republicans are supporting fascism, as usual..
Robertz1986 11 months ago
this is FOX fake terrorist news MO.. they put forth lies as truth and denounce truth as lies
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
To the kooks who try to call it "Internet Freedom", what's your idea of freedom?
PUT THE GOVERNMENT IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING!
shikamoo 1 year ago
so if I understand Beck in order to call yourself free press you must not be in favor of marxism?So I guess if the guy had a publication on the free market he would be all for it. I also love how he so loosely use the terms marxist and socialist.
fenix144 1 year ago
2 choices: 1. listen to the turks in this case (if not every case) and deliver net neutrality through, giving the FCC, the same overseer of censorships of bleeps, political views, & anything obsene for television. ya know sick shit. option 2. keep the "Fascist Capitalist" system the Turks call & either you yourself demand freedom online from the companies or cancel in mass. There will be another to take Comcasts place, companies follow money (obvious), & if ppl demand it, they will adhere :)
sil3ntxOblivion 1 year ago
You are quite a hypocrite aren't you omegahunterx? @waneboon And conservative is a racist .braintumor. And corporations are fascist..lol.. I, or anyone else with any intelligence can get racist from my comment, since I never even mentioned race at all..lol I am through wasting type space on you
waneboon 1 year ago
omegahuntrex, Who typed your progressive/ Marxist approved excuse for a reply to my comment.?..You could not have typed it yourself..It takes more than 2 braincells to work a typewriter...It is completely backwards and describes you to a T. Do you ever take your head from the sand.?.if you do, I'm sure you will find that you now look like the big bird you imitate with your self imposed blind behavior.
"Liberals"(Statist in reality) have a nauseating brand of smug ignorance.
waneboon 1 year ago
@waneboon And conservative is a racist braintumor. Stop with the namecalling, it just make you look bad and everyone can do it.
Google net neutrality, stop blaming people for being commie when you don't like what they are saying. I can call you a corpporate fascist like republicans are! it's not hard at all!
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
Egypt pulled the plug on the internet a few weeks ago. They want to install a internet kill switch in the US. If they kill the internet on us you can pretty much assume we are at war with our government. What excuse (besides national security) could they possibly come up with?
pchtermino1 1 year ago
"What is the problem... Comcast" lmao
killwill07 1 year ago
Btw communist regimes are the ones run by dictators... stalin, mao, hitler, mohammed...look it up kiddos... caliphate
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
Btw...hey "young turks" theres nothing young about you, ya sloppy fat old jackalope :) stop false advertizing before i get obummer to regulate your old saggy butt.
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
No you're def right government should def be the only ones who can control what is on the internet. Just like Obummer did when he paid off google to get his info about obummercare ontop of everyone elses info about it. coz thats def not regulating and monopolizing the internet. hahahahahahaha
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
" Free Press isn't about Free Speech.........it's about...............Marxism".
I haven't laughed so hard in quite some time. I even spilt my coco-pops onto my favourite pair of underpants.
Fux News...........never lets you down and always good for a laugh.
19996669991 1 year ago
i trust the puppet more
link1825 1 year ago
hahahahaahahahahahahahahahah. Oh this guy is retarded, it's so funny, hahahahahahahahaa.
Wait... ... millions and millions believe this guy. Not funny.
MiloDaemon 1 year ago
People always talk about big government invading peoples lives. But im equally concerned with big corporations coming into our lives. The end of net neutrality is the end of the one truely free and innovative medium in the world today.
Only in the USA could a dumbass like Glen Beck get a television show to spew his bullshit.
MegaMark0000 1 year ago
GLENN BECK IS SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT.
AirMailz 1 year ago
Is Glenn Beck so dumb that he doesn't know what "neutrality" means? I'm going to beat his ass with a framed LOLCAT Picture one of these days.
Killzoneguy117 1 year ago
@shikamoo you Idiot. wow.
camaelx130 1 year ago
Glenn Beck: grade A+ dumbass, American approved.
DecadentDisturber 1 year ago
@DecadentDisturber I facepalmed so badly when he said that its all about Marxism. This is just idiotic. Even by Fox News Standards.
Killzoneguy117 1 year ago
@Killzoneguy117 You forget. Fox News has no standards.
DecadentDisturber 1 year ago
@DecadentDisturber hahahahahahahaha true
Killzoneguy117 1 year ago
It's remarkable how much of a difference the media makes in polarising an issue, even when it's ultimate goal is the same: "An internet free from control, censorship and over-regulation". The people like Glenn Beck and Fox News, with a distinct bias against the government, get told that the government wants to do that, whereas the truth is the companies want to do that and the government want to stop it. Remarkable how much a single bias can blind you to the detail.
MeBeMat 1 year ago
The guy talking here is a complete and utter idiot!... Freedom through Government regulation...riiiight...that always happens.....wake up idiots who think (not think parrot) the same sort of statist crap coming out of this guys pie hole.
I don't give a damn if you fools shoot the feet off your own internet freedom...just keep your government loving statist hands off mine!
waneboon 1 year ago
@waneboon You could have spent 5 seconds Googling "net neutrality" to see that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and avoided looking like a reactionary dumbass.
omegahunterx 1 year ago
Wheeee! The internet is just fine, a few corporations have some trivial disputes (in a manner that won't be "fixed" by net neturality) with each other, and now Cenk wants the FCC to control the internet because of some bad things that might happen.
The bad things haven't even happened. In 30 years they'll be talking about the "wild days before net neutrality" and will tell tall tales about bandwidth barons. Cenk is insufferably standard and institutional in his thought.
fringeelements 1 year ago 3
Why support net neutrality? Simple:
1. You don't think bandwidth hogs should pay for their excessive use of service.
2. You don't think ISPs should give a hospital sending an MRI priority over some idiot downloading porn.
3. You don't want the ability to switch to a new ISP in order to get fairer service.
4. You want the same "neutral" internet as China or Pakistan.
5. You think the government (which can't keep a budget together, or follow it's own rules) can manage the web without risk.
HexTest 1 year ago
@HexTest Wow, you must be stupid :D Congrats on making an ass of yourself. Continue shooting fireworks at gas stations now, my redneck friend.
Rawbdog 1 year ago
@Rawbdog - Redneck? Sorry, I'm from Seattle, and if it upsets you that their is no basis for Net Neutrality then explain what's wrong with my arguments. It works a lot better then looking like an upset statist who is kicking and screaming for special entitlements.
HexTest 1 year ago
So wait, as a European this is confusing me. A representative of corporations, who explicitly said he was one, told this person that net neutrality is bad and he believes it? How is it possible that such a thing can be said on television when it's not even confirmed one bit? Wouldn't this give a lot of people a flawed perspective about the whole ordeal?
coppurt 1 year ago
@cakeface579....if you want to know what is in "obamacare" you should read the actual bill itself to see what is in it...looking at a biased site set up by the government who want to convince you to accept it no matter what isnt allowing people to make an unbiased informed decision for themselves. "anticommunist" sites are biased but so are government sites who only allow you one side of the argument...read the actual bill
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago 2
GOVERNMENT CONTROL = INTERNET FREEDOM?
LOL. Big Brother is brainwashing you.
shikamoo 1 year ago 21
@shikamoo The government's role is to protect freedom. When they protect freedom, that is, I guess technically government control... but it's the right kind. That's a central tenet of libertarian philosophy.
Nemesis000000 1 year ago
@shikamoo GOVERNMENT CONTROL OVER ISPS = INTERNET FREEDOM. Yes. GOVERNMENT STOPPING ISPS FROM DISCRIMINATING TRAFFIC TO THEIR OWN SITES = INTERNET FREEDOM. Yes.
WRITING IN CAPS AND MAKING ORWELL REFERENCES = AN ARGUEMENT? No.
MeBeMat 1 year ago
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thegillotine09 1 year ago
@shikamoo
Yeah, like when the government controls someone from walking up behind you and bashing your head in.
newdimensionfilms 1 year ago
@shikamoo
Well... it's government control instead of corporate control... ISP's want to change the way internet service works in order to make more money. Net neutrality is about keeping it the way it is now.
monkeytwineball 1 year ago
@shikamoo have you actually went and looked the free press site for yourself?honestly tell me what's wrong with what they say.
same question for you. if you answer i'll give you free cookies.
fenix144 1 year ago
LOL And when government works AGINST control, it's still a form of control? Like banning slavery?
You are funny, but I hope you are not old enough to vote.
AngeCord 1 year ago
@shikamoo gotta love that double think! Its doubleplusgood! Keep it coming comrades! When does the two minutes hate start? Oh, i forgot, glenn beck is going off the air, so we have no one left to hate.....gee thats a problem.
Porojukaha 10 months ago
@shikamoo Are you that dumb? The whole point of net neutrality is there being a law in place that prevents the large ISPs from restricting access to websites that aren't a part of their ring of partners.
Pwnzistor 9 months ago
@Pwnzistor Yes, because government control of the Internet has just been awesome in every other case where it's invoked. Iran, China, Russia, Egypt, Libya, Cuba, you name it. And don't delude yourself to think somehow the US would be the one and only exception.
shikamoo 9 months ago
@shikamoo No no, fucking no.. Go read the actual document yourself. The law disallows internet companies from regulating what you can and cannot easily access on the internet.. How much research have you actually done on this? Are you ACTUALLY going to go read the house resolution act that this is all about? Or am I just banging my head against your stubbornness? This is too important an issue to dissent just based on your hatred of the Obama administration. This is actually a pretty big deal.
Pwnzistor 9 months ago
Free press is Marxism? facepalm!
stigander 1 year ago
And you're funded by George Soros.
tmh2939 1 year ago
How much did you pay to have your little studio and camera action get out to the people?? Who did you pay? The internet is just a few powerful computers, Google, Yahoo, and a few others. The people's tax payer money was used to develop the internet and we the people will have an equal opportunity to access and inform, as big corporations.
hbjon 1 year ago
One thing I think most people fail to mention, is that when right wing corporate shills talk about protecting freedom, or keeping taxes low on "people", they really mean big corporations. Because corporations are inf act considered to be people, with the current corporate personhood laws and all.
migraine516 1 year ago
So what is this saying to the people when Obama does the very thing he claims to be totally against. Well it is saying that the people can not buy preference on the internet BUT THE GOVERNMENT and OBAMA CAN. Stop Obama and the Communists from trying to enslave the American People! Fight The Power!
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
@alexisdarko9999 If I'm looking up "obamacare" I don't want the first results to be confused blatherings about communism, I would like to know what the official government records have to say about it first. *Googles "obamacare"* Guess what the first few results are? The first is Wikipedia and the second is "The Truth About ObamaCare! What the liberal media aren't telling you" The 3rd result is Obamacare411 which must be where the communism kicks in! 3 is divisible by 6! And three 6s makes 666!
CakeFace579 1 year ago
how can Obama be for freedom of the internet when he is the one who went and bought off google so that the word obamacare when searched for on google shows all the government sites for obamacare first?! He is a fraud and does not want internet freedom he wants goverment control and wants to limit freedom. Do your homework people. Which i know is hard to do now that Obama and the communits have control over the information that is on the internet. But dont give up! Fight The Power!!
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
@alexisdarko9999 I'm guessing that since you're ranting about the extreme left, you're part of the extreme right? So probably a fascist? The people who are headed by dictators and a strong central government? Yes, you make perfect sense.
TrueFactPolitics 1 year ago
Youtube guy - Right.
Beck - idiot.
Net Neutrality is not trying to change anything net neutrality wants to keep it (the internet) the way it is. That is why this guy is exactly right and Glen Beck is an idiot.
rickolini 1 year ago
Let me explain Net-Neutrality since I see a great deal of dumb shits here who don't understand it. Net-Neutrality is the concept that all content on the net is treated equally by ISPs. Nothing is censored and nothing is given preferential treatment.
The regulation of the FCC is NOT about regulating the content you dumb fucks, its about insuring that the ISPs don't censor any content or give preferential treatment to any content. That's all.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
@RondoRaven I know, Cenk works for MSNBC, a company just about to be taken over by comcast. Why oh why would he tell you the truth about net neutrality, which if am correct is supported by Verizon and google. Gullible people will pay the fees to their own capture if sold by a trusted mouth piece.
uche007us 1 year ago
Cenk, I think you and your guys are the ones trying to change the internet. The medium is evolving for better or worse and as a libertarian, I say let it go. Comcast, verizon and at&t alone cannot shape the internet, only govt with its pseudo fair rules and regulations can
uche007us 1 year ago
In reality TYT doesn't know what's real.... Who backs TYT?
dclong60 1 year ago
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zombies8u 1 year ago
Does TYT not realize the Orwellian language he's employing when he thinks one "regulates" a situation into "freedom"? Freedom is the absence of regulation; they are diametrically-opposed. If you're going to argue a belief, TYT, at least be internally consistent.
What's ironic, is TYT probably fancies himself as a defender of civil liberties but is ushering in a police state.
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@selfrealizedexile
so keeping it as it is right now is bad?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
@selfrealizedexile
Wow you are dumber than shit. Regulation is to make sure mega corporations and the wealthy elite don't use their money/power to shift the playing field in their favor and fuck everything up. Like they did when the goddamn banking system got so deregulated and cause the economic crash.
Oh I guess you just want to trust the super wealth to do the right thing, you naive cunt. In a capitalistic society profits are more important that people. That is why you need regulation.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
Contrary to popular belief, calling someone "dumber than shit" is not a viable substitute for a substantive argument. What's more, being a "naive cunt" would be, like the 175 million people murdered by their own gov'ts in the past century, trusting an entity that holds all the guns and power to do the right thing and not take advantage of citizens (how's that public debt working out for ya? do you know what your share of the debt is?). But, instead of attacking this very
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
blatant threat, you think entities which, by definition, cannot steal your money, the definition of taxation, only attempt to give you a good offer from which you will subjectively benefit.
Also, the current economic depression was a result of long-run saving disincentives caused by the Federal Reserve, most of which occurred after the Nixon shock in the 70s. Americans have consumed so much and saved so little that we've entered capital consumption territory wherein our
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
standard of living will not increase and, infact, decrease because there is not enough present real savings to sustain current capital capacity.
Reading the rest of your comments, I can tell you have a blind faith in gov't. That is one of the most dangerous ideologies imaginable. You're peddling and ushering in the next police state. Is this what your life will amount to--the dog that licks the boots of your 'betters'?
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@selfrealizedexile
And you have blind faith in the mega corporations to do the right thing with out regulation? That's a fucking joke. Most of the politicians are bought so your distrust of the government would logically lead you to distrust those pulling their strings if you weren't a stupid teabagging shit.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
That's like saying you fear the little girl at the lemonade stand. She might manipulate your access to her lemonade. Oh, noes!
The only entity you should fear is the one that is "legally authorized" to tax, jail, and execute you. I have nothing to fear from private enterprise. It is only when they attach themselves to gov't that they become a threat, and it's precisely because they then take on the characteristics of gov't.
You're a fool if you think the "mega
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
corporations" didn't get "mega" through crony capitalism with the gov't. Look at the gov't's track record--they rent seek. We have no reason to believe they can be trusted; indeed, we have every reason to believe they cannot be.
If you don't know what I'm talking about when I speak about bandwidth access and discrimination as it relates to price tiering, I suggest you stop watching media outlets that only agree with you. Look at me here on Cenk's stupid channel. The man is
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@Shadowlit001
dishonest and eternally pushing Socialism and the demise of American freedom. But, I'm still here, keeping an open mind and challenging myself with multiple sources. Can you say the same? How many free market proponents do you regularly listen to? How much of economics do you actually understand? Wouldn't it be wise to understand a free market frontwards and backwards before you condemn it and walk alongside Cenk the road to material impoverishment and destruction?
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
How stupid are some of you people? I mean really? "Net Neutrality" is nothing more than a grab for government control yet again. You don't have to like or agree with Glenn Beck, but for the liberals, ask yourselves, would you want the type of new power this Obama Administration is seeking in the hands of another GWB? Use your brains people, your freedoms are being taking and be so done to your "thunderous applause"..
RothdeMan 1 year ago
@RothdeMan
You apparently don't even understand the concept of Net-Neutrality. Its amazing how many dumb fucks like you there are on this vid posting about how Net-Neutrality is a bad thing. You must all be undercover Teabaggers serving your corporate masters.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
the FCC already regulates so no one is talking about inserting control. they are talking about adding new rules, like for wireless broadband. this is NOT like the gov putting up a stop sign or controlling traffic. this is them saying corporations must build all roads for all people, not private HOV lanes for the people who pay more. let's debate that, because THAT is what net neutrality is about. will the FCC screw up the regulation? will they do it effectively? will there be loopholes? etc.
dwyerb 1 year ago
@dwyerb
My problem with that is it removes the price system. The price system is the heart of Capitalism; it's what sends the signals for production, investment, borrowing, and consumption. It is the precise mechanism that rationally allocates resources. If you step in the way of that, the private internet investment and production will slowly decay, what happens to any industry wherein price ceilings are placed. This ultimately leads to gov't takeover when the private sector doesn't
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@selfrealizedexile
Also your reply to dwyerb was fucking stupid. The FCC is not doing anything to the pricing system of ISPs you jackass. You're just pulling that concept right out of your fucking ass to try and come up with some sort of convoluted strawman argument. In reality we can all see your just another corporate shill, bending over and taking it up the ass from the ultra wealthy and voting against self interest.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
@dwyerb
provide the service anymore (because the gov't arbitrarily made it unprofitable).
If you believe in this equality over price discrimination, then why not apply that to all sectors of our economy? There's a name for that--it's called Democratic Socialism wherein workers and consumers have equal influence in the market no matter how efficient and hard-working they might personally be. This is a recipe for disaster and the destruction of any society.
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@RothdeMan Blah, blah blah. The disjointed ramblings of a moron.
zebbedi 1 year ago
@zebbedi The only moron is the one starring you back in the face on a daily basis. You'll come to this realization one day soon. Keep your head in the sand, because when you finally take it out, you'll only get and have exactly what people like yourself deserve, misery of your own making.
RothdeMan 1 year ago
@RothdeMan Utter pointless jibberish, you actually sound like Glenn Beck.
zebbedi 1 year ago
Glenn Beck is stupid redneck mother fucker, more new at 11.
vaju79 1 year ago
Don't let the government control the internet! Keep the internet free!!! The government doesnt want you to hear both sides of any issue so that you can make up your own mind. They want you to ONLY hear their side so you have noothing to counter it with. Stop Them!! Fight The Power!!
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
@alexisdarko9999
Goddamn you are a moron. If the government doesn't protect free speech on the internet the ISPs like Comcast, Verizon and others can censor whatever the fuck they want.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
Net neutrality is NOT internet freedom. it is regulation and as you all should know regulation resticts freedom. for people who claim to not want "authority" you are all about rules and regulation which IS authority. Really I thought you all were smarter then that.
alexisdarko9999 1 year ago
@alexisdarko9999
You obviously don't even understand the fucking concept of net-neutrality so you don't have much room to be commenting on other people's intelligence.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago