Answer: When the LHC starts is there a possibility for a black hole?

[ActThenThink]

Why even riskt it?

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I should probably add that we are not totally naive.

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Still, it may be wiser to entertain doubts to avoid being deceived by false assumptions or an appeal to ignorance. Ockham's razor doesn't offer any guarantees. We have to admit that we may be naive.

[HeavyWeightGunner]

so why did it cost 3 billion if you could just observe the ones made by nature?

[GLeNss]

3 billion is nothing

[HeavyWeightGunner]

Its Tax payers money.

[GLeNss]

i rather see it go to a good cause, compared to seeing it go to some bankers xD

[HeavyWeightGunner]

I have to agree with you. You win.

[tramwell]

You can not observe these collisions when they occur in nature. In LHC you know quite exactly when and where they are happening, so you can build your sensors right there.

[HeavyWeightGunner]

Waste of money still, but as the other guy said its better it dont go towards the bankers pockets.

[ryuujin36]

How can you reap the benefits of scientific inquiry (your computer among other things), and still imply that funding research is a waste of money?

[HeavyWeightGunner]

No mate not research, this fucking research.... read up mate i had an arguement with a guy who said exactly the same crap.... all research are you blind. LHC is a waste of money and time.... 3 things can happen; 1 - it works and a massive sign comes up saying level 2; 2 - it creates a massive hole were switzerland and france use to be; 3 - it will work and contribute nothing to actualy society eg. no one is effected by this apart from scientists.

[ryuujin36]

@HeavyWeightGunner

Even if research were to do nothing but add to our knowledge base it would still be benefiting society. You cannot disreguard scientific inquiry so haphazardly. Just because you are not seeing an immediate benefit does not mean it is a waste of time or money. I am all for things with an overt benefit to society as a whole, such as medical research. However, most of that sort of research is based off of more general science.

[HeavyWeightGunner]

Sorry, but i don`t see the points in finding out what made this planet.... the only thing i can see happening is a giant sign saying round 2.

[ryuujin36]

I personally find that to be short sighted. If we limit our understanding of the natural world, than we ultimately limit our ability for progess. However, at least you our pro supporting research funding that you find pointless over funding more bombs. I can at least appreciate that.

[ryuujin36]

ack typo! Curse my lack of proof reading before posting. That should read, "... at least you're..."

[HeavyWeightGunner]

I personally think the funding of bombs pointless too, having said that the money on the LHC could have been spent on the military equipment such as Armour, New weapons, food and supplies... the money being spent on this thing could be used on something more usefull such as pot holes in roads, the NHS, Police service ect.. this is a complete waste of resources, but on the other hand you could say more money is going into bankers pockets..... my personal is, it is a waste of resouces.

[darkiestar1]

it affects how science will be taught in schools! this is probably the most important scientific experiment of all time

[triscope]

Although the collisions already occur in nature at far greater energies, we do not know when and where these collisions will occure. The LHC is an experiment to try and reproduce these events at much lower energiers with predictable and controled outcomes. Only with massive and intricate detectors will they be able to detect these unknown particles they are looking for such as the higgs boson.

[HeavyWeightGunner]

For Fuck Sake, read the other comments i dont need telling multiple times!!

[triscope]

Fine...fuck off then for your stupid dumbshit question in the first place! I didnt see the replies asswhipe!