Miguel Caballero Bulletproof Clothing Test

[bones3171]

Fake

[Zander101084]

@bones3171 getting laid soon? haha jk

[Zander101084]

@bones3171 getting laid soon? haha jk

[lucas911611]

how do you buy this shit?

[TheCyndicate]

Ok, for 1, not only was the caliber tiny, they also had significantly less powder in them or the report would have been louder.

2nd

From his site:

"Customers can choose from low, medium and high protection levels. The low level protects from short range weaponry such as hand-guns and revolvers. The medium level protects against sub machine guns such as mini Uzis. And the high level protects against high powered assault rifles and machine guns like the MP5."

MP5 & Mini-Uzi = SAME CALIBER 9mm!

[TheCyndicate]

BTW, the 9mm from a Mini-Uzi and an MP5, IS, In FACT a PISTOL ROUND!!!

So you talk about 3 levels of protection, but all for the SAME EXACT ROUND/CALIBER!!!

PLEASE, learn more about weapons and get some firearm based subcontractors to help you on these projects, or you are going to get someone killed.

[Downarrow2]

@TheCyndicate: hm. out of a submachinegun the bullet might be faster due to longer barrel. but you're right! a 9mm is no rifle round:D

[TheCyndicate]

@Downarrow2 He said the "MEDIUM" level was for submachine guns like a Mini Uzi & the "High" level was for "high powered assault rifles & machine guns" like an MP5.

The MP5 and Mini Uzi are BOTH submachine guns that shoot the same exact ammo, with almost the same exact stats.

Mini Uzi: RND Velocity 1230 f/s @ 950 RPM.

MP5: RND Velocity 1312 f/s @ 800 RPM

The US standard issue Beretta M9 Pistol: RND Velocity 1250 f/s @ Semi Automatic

ALL = right at the same velocity, same round.

I call B.S.

[CaptainVicStevens]

@TheCyndicate Who am I going to believe, the guy who is world renowned for being the leader in bulletproof clothing, a guy who sells to the most powerful people and leaders in the world, a guy who the secret service allegedly trust to protect the president or..... some random internet loonie claiming that an MP5 and mini-uzi are basically the same?

PS, based on your numbers an MP5 shoots at a velocity about 6.5% greater than a mini uzi. I'm no ballistics expert but that seems pretty significant

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens Who are you going to believe? Are you fucking kidding me?!!

Everything I posted, you can look up on Wikipedia, or the Firearm manufacturers websites or you can call them on the phone & ask yourself.

BTW, I live in Las Vegas & build hardware as well as software weapon platforms for both the Predator & Reaper Drones, as well as many other weapons platforms.

So who are you going to trust, a TAILOR, or a Weapons Development Engineer?

Stings doesn't it?

Dealt with.

[CaptainVicStevens]

@TheCyndicate Who am I going to trust, the industry leader, or some guy who does something that's sort-of related? You're kidding right?

That's like walking into a Harley Davidson plant and being like "you guys are doing this all wrong! I should know, I install car windows"

Even if what you said is true, and I'm not doubting it, the 6% increase in velocity probably makes a difference, but you wouldn't know that because it's not what you do. So again, I'll take their word over yours.

[CaptainVicStevens]

@TheCyndicate and the fact that you said "Stings doesn't it" cracks me up. How old are you, 12? All you did is tell me that you live in Vegas (not sure how that's relevant) and work on stuff that really has nothing to do with body armor. You think I'm going to be "stung" by you having an uninformed opinion? Give me a break pal.

Dealt with. BURN!. Stings doesn't it?

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens Sorry man, but you lost.

You can try to twist & contort everything, but everyone sees right through it.

No, building weapons does not qualify me as any type of armor expert.

However, it doe's qualify me as a projectile & munitions expert.

I have never made ANY claims about his Armor failing or it's performance.

I took the words HE posted about his stress load ratings & calibers he used, & showed that he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.

That is FACT. OWNED.

[CaptainVicStevens]

@TheCyndicate Goddamn you're ignorant. I decided to do my own research and it took me 10 seconds to find that Caballero doesn't establish his levels of protection, the National Institute of Justice (which I'm sure you're aware is a branch of the USDOJ) makes the standards. Mini Uzi's are a level II, MP5's are level IIIA. Don't take my word though, read all about the testing procedures here:

(I guess I can't post links, so just google "NIJ body armor")

Thanks for the entertainment clownshoes.

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens LOL‼ You want to talk about ignorant, lol, you must still think the world is flat‼

Again, another unsuccessful, desperate attempt by you, to twist & manipulate things in order to not look like the fool I showed you to be.

Of course he didn't establish the recognized industry standards for protection.

But he attributed the wrong WEAPONS to those classifications, proving he doesn't know what he is talking about.

You as well. The Mini Uzi & MP5 = SAME CLASSIFICATION.

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens I've been saving this 1 for you =)

His own words,

"The high level protects against high powered assault rifles & machine guns like the MP5."

MP5: 9mm - vel = 1,312 ft/s @ eRange: 656 ft

REAL High Powered Assault Rifles:

G36: 5.56 - vel = 3,018 ft/s @ eRange: 2624.6 ft

AK47: 7.62x39mm - vel = 2,346 ft/s @ eRange: 1312.3 ft

M14: 7.62x51mm - vel = 2,800 ft/s @ eRange: 2625+ ft

So explain to me again, how the MP5 IS an AR in your fantasy world.

Come on, post more of your BS.

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens Awww,... What's wrong "Captain"? Why haven't you responded?

Did I hurt your little feelings?

LOL!!

[CaptainVicStevens]

@TheCyndicate one last thing.... since doing what you do qualifies you as an expert on body armor, does it work both ways? Could Miguel Caballero walk into your janitor's closet and tell you the correct way to mop the floor?

[TheCyndicate]

@CaptainVicStevens That's what I thought.

[GlasurAften]

This kills the baby.

[Downarrow2]

this looks like a .22 :)

[HiCapacity]

@Downarrow2 38

[stunthero]

So y do people over exagurate wen they get shot

[allah211]

@stunthero i hear its like getting nailed with a baseball bat

[stitchystitchy]

wow at point blank range!

[KaiThePhaux]

...That would scare me to bits..

[xeonfuze]

I was under the impression that even WITH a bulletproof garment it'd still hurt like fuck.

[jimmyhoffa9]

@xeonfuze nope, the armour absorbs the energy of the bullet, thats how it stops it. a 7.62x39 hurts like a bitch and leaves a bruise, but I can't speak for any other rounds.

[silverd20]

@jimmyhoffa9 OWCH! Did you get hit by a Kalashnikov? Anyways, It all depends on the armour. I assume you were wearing class 3 or 4 armour. I think that this kind of body armour is designed for a person to be able to wear it with a least SOME comfort, so It probably won't stop a 7.62x39.

[jimmyhoffa9]

@silverd20 level 4 repeat hit armour. some levels of this armour can stop a 7.62x39, they're just really heavy and cost a coupla g each

[GUNSFOREVER1]

@jimmyhoffa9 I have a level 4 vest full 7.62x51mm M80 ball protection

[doughauf]

@filmmaker31892 i would two if i was him!!!!!

[wesleymunoz]

where can i find more info on this stuff?

[freddytk421]

I think it's fake. They should be wearing safety glasses at least.

[heisenfeis]

@freddytk421 it is mexico ! ;D

[jlbtri]

@freddytk421 and wouldnt it be a bit louder too

[doughauf]

How does this work.

[pucatron]

@doughauf

Each clothing item has built in ballistic panels. In clothing with button or zipper fronts, there are two protective panels which overlap when the jacket is closed. In the back there is one ballistic panel. Each panel is made of a para-aramid synthetic fiber that is tightly woven and layered. The panels are soft and flexible and work like a net, preventing the bullet from puncturing through and "catching it."

[doughauf]

@pucatron  That is interesting so it will not hurt and leave a bruise like most bulletproof vest will.

[jpcrson]

@doughauf

its got to leave a bruise. but hell id rather have a bruise then a full on wound.

[fhury78dk]

shit my police get a broken rib with thier bullet proof vests that lady didnt even flinch

[doughauf]

@fhury78dk It is amazing isn't it. Are you a policeman?

911Truth.org

DH

[fhury78dk]

@doughauf nope im a civilian 

[jpcrson]

@fhury78dk that lady is smiling. hell id be running in the other direction

[GunOwnerDan]

VERY nice!

[1990banks]

amazing