I bought a CR-78 a few months ago and found that Daryl Hall used the Rock-1 AND Disco-2 presets for the "I Can't Go For That" beat. FYI: Apple has a nice little app for the iPod touch and iPad called "Funk Box" that very closely mimics the Cr78, TR-808s and other drum kits. Very cool app but nothing beats the original!
Heart of Glass was based on the CR-78. You hear it distinctly in the intro and in the trigger pulses that the CR-78 sent through the synthesizers. HOG, recorded in June, 1978, was an early use of this technology.
trying to find a good old school drum machine demo is starting to drive me nuts! everyone ruins the demo by recording with speakers & mics instead of straight line in.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
not going to give this video a thumbs down, but it would be nice to hear nothing but the drum machine once
trying to find a good old school drum machine demo is starting to drive me nuts! everyone ruins the demo by recording with speakers & mics instead of straight line in.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
not going to give this video a thumbs down, but it would be nice to hear nothing but the drum machine once
FYI - I had wondered about those extra bass drum beats on the 'In the Air Tonight' pattern. I guess Phil did program those on top of the Disco-2 beat like I had to do for this video .. here's his quote: "'In the Air Tonight' was just a drum machine pattern that I took off that CR78 drum machine. You could eliminate certain sounds and program bass drums and snare drums, so I programmed a bass drum part into it, but basically the rest of it was already on there."
@senorverde09 - I've always seen Heart of Glass listed as a CR-78 tune, and the beguine/rhumba rhythms are nearly identical (rhumba is what you hear at the beginning, and you hear both around 2:28). I could never get it to sound identical though, even mixing with other presets. Maybe they added some programmed bits in there with it?
@mrduckbutt Well, it's worth a shot. I think everything you did was pretty dang close to the orignal in my opinion (in the air tonight seems tricky). Can you try H&O's 'I can't go for that' on that thing? I watched a live at daryl's episode (episode 10) where he mentioned that no can do was made with a 78 using rock and roll one pattern. Check it out if you haven't. Good luck!
@senorverde09 - That's right, 'I Can't Go For That' uses the B-variation of the Rock-1 preset (you can hear it briefly at 2:58, that double-snare beat).
Classic machine, unique sounds, john foxx still uses it today on some of his new songs, was very popular in the early 80's, hard to find a good one now & expensive but a great buy.
I want a drummachine like this so i can play along with my drums, cause i don't have room for a whole band. I'd like to play on my on, just trying stuff. Do i need some more things apart from this machine, and do i need a reciever for it or anything?
Yes, you will need some form of amplification for just about any drum machine ever made. Your best solutions will probably be headphones or a small guitar amplifier. You can also just plug it into your stereo, granted you have the right cables and a stereo that has an auxiliary in jack. I'm assuming you don't have a mixing board, studio monitors or a P.A. system, because those are all handy for working with drum machines, but perhaps not what you need if you just want to play drums on your on.
I looove this machine, so crisp and electronic sounding. I hear it on the intro of Opportunities by PSB, Heart Of Glass by Blondie and Fade To Gray by Visage - and ofcourse many others.
The young marble giants used it on the testcard ep, from 1.15 to 1.20 you can hear "the clock"'s beat, "this way" is also made with it. And, of course, Blondie's "heart of glass" !
no music of today is a piece of shit music of the past is way better like the 70s 80s and early 90s instuments like this help make music more enjoyable to the listeners
at 1:26 you can hear the pattern from in the air tonight by phil collins. who woulda knew that that beat was a preset that came with the drum machine.
"programmed" beats and "preset" beats are a bit different in this case, my friend. the author of the video says in the description that there is no preset he could find that created the kick rhythm used in the song. so much for that echo, eh?
on another note, search youtube for "in the kraftwerk tonight" for an extra little treat.
With the exception of a few extra bass drum kicks in the second half of the pattern, 'In the Air' tonight is just a preset disco rhythm. It repeats after four beats though (compared to Phil's eight beats), so there's not really a way to get those extra bass drum kicks without manually programming them.
I am curious why he would bother with this though - maybe four beats sounded a bit too repetitive?
This rhythm box is amazing! It has such a great punch to the sounds. It was first designed for organists but contemporary artists of the time picked it up. It appears on The Buggles recording of "I Am a Camera" as and in many early New Wave tracks. I think Brian Eno used one as well.
Phil Collins loved his, I think. He used it a lot on his solo stuff, as well with Genesis. You can see him actively programming one on the DVD that came with the reissued Genesis album Duke. There is some live concert footage of the song Duchess, where he is actively manipulating the unit for the drum machine solo at the beginning of the song. It may be out here on youtube somewhere. Check it out.
I have one too but while the exterior is in pristine condition, I had to take out the internal battery which keeps the self-programmed rhythms in memory. It had started to leak and left a big mess on the mainboard :( I hope to find a terrible looking but good working model which sells for a reasonable price and combine the 2.
Yeah starts to get into Hiroshima Mon Amour at about 20 secs. intro percussion to Numan's Remind Me To Smile (and Blondie's Heart Of Glass) at the start and later at 2.30.
this is THEE machine of the drum world. I just bought one for $5 dollars in a garage sale. Found out one went for $3,000 on ebay. Anyone got any idea how much they are worth. I presume the ebay one was immaculate???
GaryNuman fan should notice that pattern at the begining.I use clock out of this to sync with the onboard step sequencer of SH101 pretty good fun.The way of programming beat on this is a bit naff but at least its able to make your own beat.Nice to see demo of this on Youtube good stuff man.
Since the WS-1's are so hard to find, I just used a simple pedal switch to do the programming. From what I recall, you initiate the recording and just press/close the switch to program in that voice (selected on the front panel).
The WS-1 might be smart enough to do the timing for you (i.e. programming on the next beat automatically, similar to a Linndrum). But doing it manually like this, you need to do your own timing .. so you have to close the switch precisely.
808 and 909 and 626 are better.
DoReMiForever 2 weeks ago
Used on OMD's Enola Gay and John Foxx's Underpass
900GTi 2 months ago
Hall and Oates - Kiss On My List at 0:58-1:10
LouiePlaysDrums 2 months ago
Those Volume and Balance buttons aren't the original ones. Contact me if you're interested in some new old stock.
Ni5ei 2 months ago
I bought a CR-78 a few months ago and found that Daryl Hall used the Rock-1 AND Disco-2 presets for the "I Can't Go For That" beat. FYI: Apple has a nice little app for the iPod touch and iPad called "Funk Box" that very closely mimics the Cr78, TR-808s and other drum kits. Very cool app but nothing beats the original!
eatmyvcr 4 months ago
Reminds me of "Dreaming of me" by DM... Vince Clarke is good people.
TypewriterMcRevenue 5 months ago
Heart of Glass was based on the CR-78. You hear it distinctly in the intro and in the trigger pulses that the CR-78 sent through the synthesizers. HOG, recorded in June, 1978, was an early use of this technology.
ihasch 5 months ago
Hear a ton of drum beats that were used in Metamatic, and Telekon.
Godscarmachine 5 months ago
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00:09 to 00:16, Plaza by John Foxx!
Ori0n1975 6 months ago
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Ori0n1975 6 months ago
i can feel it, callin in teh air tonight ..
L3dtube 7 months ago
oh i was wondering what drum machine the sounds from roxy music, japan, visage and jean michel jarre were coming from! this is it. awesome!
kautle 8 months ago
Did Mick Smiley's "Magic" use this thing too???
cheddybumpkins 1 year ago
I remember this sound, Gary Numan and John Foxx made them famous....just listen to "Phantom Lover" on the new JF record.
Abraxas80 1 year ago
im pretty sure i hear this unit on "Eminence Front" by The Who
t1mTV 1 year ago
Does it have "hand clap?" I vaguely remember reading Phil Collins convincing Robert Plant to use this on a couple of his solo albums.
maxcohen13 1 year ago
you should have recorded the audio directly into your camera
SPAZZOID100 1 year ago
@mrduckbutt I always thought they used a CR-8000 for that track.
Ni5ei 1 year ago
Yay 1:35
hansolo989 1 year ago
I just started a yahoo user group for the CR-78/68.
Everybody is welcome.
darym3 1 year ago
trying to find a good old school drum machine demo is starting to drive me nuts! everyone ruins the demo by recording with speakers & mics instead of straight line in.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
not going to give this video a thumbs down, but it would be nice to hear nothing but the drum machine once
djgambitron 1 year ago
trying to find a good old school drum machine demo is starting to drive me nuts! everyone ruins the demo by recording with speakers & mics instead of straight line in.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
not going to give this video a thumbs down, but it would be nice to hear nothing but the drum machine once
djgambitron 1 year ago
A great use of that first sequence is found on "Mouth To Mouth" from The Glove( Robert Smith and Steven Severin)
blzbug242 1 year ago
FYI - I had wondered about those extra bass drum beats on the 'In the Air Tonight' pattern. I guess Phil did program those on top of the Disco-2 beat like I had to do for this video .. here's his quote: "'In the Air Tonight' was just a drum machine pattern that I took off that CR78 drum machine. You could eliminate certain sounds and program bass drums and snare drums, so I programmed a bass drum part into it, but basically the rest of it was already on there."
mrduckbutt 1 year ago
does it have multiple outs?
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
@Obelisk2290 - It has high/low impedance main output, plus a trigger output (no separate voice outputs or anything)
mrduckbutt 1 year ago
thanks
Obelisk2290 1 year ago
Now i think i need that instrument :D
AntwaanMusic 2 years ago
I would like to buy a CR-78.
Please help.
1200killer 2 years ago
I'll be putting one on ebay UK in the next week.
ItsJonnieCraig 2 years ago
I loved in the air tonight!
collartrance 2 years ago
I heard a bit of Salt 'n' Pepa Push It, Blondie, Hall and Oates Kiss on my list, Phil Collins Air tonight.... Classic bit of kit.
nobby2000 2 years ago
Heart of Glass at the beginning?
senorverde09 2 years ago
@senorverde09 - I've always seen Heart of Glass listed as a CR-78 tune, and the beguine/rhumba rhythms are nearly identical (rhumba is what you hear at the beginning, and you hear both around 2:28). I could never get it to sound identical though, even mixing with other presets. Maybe they added some programmed bits in there with it?
mrduckbutt 1 year ago
@mrduckbutt Well, it's worth a shot. I think everything you did was pretty dang close to the orignal in my opinion (in the air tonight seems tricky). Can you try H&O's 'I can't go for that' on that thing? I watched a live at daryl's episode (episode 10) where he mentioned that no can do was made with a 78 using rock and roll one pattern. Check it out if you haven't. Good luck!
senorverde09 1 year ago
@senorverde09 - That's right, 'I Can't Go For That' uses the B-variation of the Rock-1 preset (you can hear it briefly at 2:58, that double-snare beat).
mrduckbutt 1 year ago
@mrduckbutt Further in the Hall & Oates vein, I'm pretty sure that's the opening drum loop from "Kiss On My List" at about 1:00.
snidelywhiplash 1 year ago
OH I FINALLY FOUND The Dilla Drums haha
DZA9mm 2 years ago
Was this used on E2E4?
groovechaser 2 years ago
used on Gary Numan's Telekon album also cool machine.
retromaster2000s 2 years ago
just use the write switch and make your own patterns
use 2 preset switches pressed at the same time :)
alainraes 2 years ago
Classic machine, unique sounds, john foxx still uses it today on some of his new songs, was very popular in the early 80's, hard to find a good one now & expensive but a great buy.
trolmper 2 years ago
it controlled the synth on heart of glass as well as the intro
tonysx 2 years ago
What a classic!!!!! Thank you for sharing this video :--)
yamahasynth 2 years ago
Also used on Island by The Buggles
topsyandpip56 2 years ago
also 'In The Air Tonight' by Phil Collins.
Luraka1978 2 years ago 4
Any idea what this cost when it was introduced?
becauseicare2 2 years ago
Those fills! Love 'em.
CBXweb 2 years ago
Hall and Oates....Kiss on My List and I cant Go For That....to name a few...
theBadloves 2 years ago
I want a drummachine like this so i can play along with my drums, cause i don't have room for a whole band. I'd like to play on my on, just trying stuff. Do i need some more things apart from this machine, and do i need a reciever for it or anything?
emiel4sma 2 years ago 2
Yes, you will need some form of amplification for just about any drum machine ever made. Your best solutions will probably be headphones or a small guitar amplifier. You can also just plug it into your stereo, granted you have the right cables and a stereo that has an auxiliary in jack. I'm assuming you don't have a mixing board, studio monitors or a P.A. system, because those are all handy for working with drum machines, but perhaps not what you need if you just want to play drums on your on.
RDLoehrke 2 years ago
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Hetrophiliac 2 years ago
Was a CR-78 used on Nik Kershaw's song "Human Racing" ? Search youtube to have a listen, cheers.
kryptonenz 2 years ago
Aw maaan! Classic sounds. The track that immediately came to mind for me was Atomic by Blondie.
BaddaBigBoom 2 years ago 2
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maxheadway 2 years ago
of course roxy music... ;-)
IiDmagazin 2 years ago
I looove this machine, so crisp and electronic sounding. I hear it on the intro of Opportunities by PSB, Heart Of Glass by Blondie and Fade To Gray by Visage - and ofcourse many others.
producermattpop 3 years ago 3
Fad Gadget used a Korg minipops.
Hiroshima Mon Amour used a TR-77 preset.
Blondie, OMD, John Foxx, Kontour, Phil Collins all used one. Great machine - even today.
blitzbadger 3 years ago
Also used by John Foxx and Fad Gadget
nashslash999 3 years ago
And Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"
intromix 3 years ago 2
And OMD-Waltz of Maid of Orleans, also OMD-Enola Gay
stef546 2 years ago
Gary numan used the first one loads erm cant think what is called anyone know?
12yearoldgarynuman 3 years ago
there is one on ebay right now - current bid is $600
ChronicBudInc 3 years ago
I need to gey one of those.
Great video!
synthpro 3 years ago
They're gey enough as it is ;-)
BaddaBigBoom 2 years ago
I meant to say I need to get one of those. LOL!!!!!!!!!
They are neat sounding. I just bought a polymoog 280a. This little box would go good with it.
synthpro 2 years ago
The young marble giants used it on the testcard ep, from 1.15 to 1.20 you can hear "the clock"'s beat, "this way" is also made with it. And, of course, Blondie's "heart of glass" !
melitoce 3 years ago
Instant 'John Foxx' Metamatic!
Cool.
(although you can almost exact samples of this most places these days)
thebrightonpeer 3 years ago
00:00-00:09 : Heart of Glass
gmaildotcom 3 years ago 5
@gmaildotcom Also " remind me to smile " from Gary Numan's Telekon album
1980.
MrSYSTEM20 1 year ago
This is a quality upload and info!
PappaWheelie 3 years ago
IM GNA GET ONEEE:d:d:d:d:d:dd:d:d:d:d
lovesexcaca 3 years ago
The first rythym Gary numan used on a Telekon track called Remind me to smile .
Synthsound1 3 years ago
MAKE SOME IDM !!
d3p3ch3mod3 3 years ago
The hi-hat at 2:10 sounds like a lawn sprinkler.
awesomesauce2000 3 years ago
Not mine.. Gone are the days of the "KST KST KST KST KST KST KST KST KSSSSSSSSSSSST" sprinklers..
Now, bow before the power of the IN-GROUND SPRINKLER SYSTEM! lol
ORUPRANKSTAZ 3 years ago
the first beat is the one used by blondie on Heart Of Glass
Parallellines78 3 years ago
omg, that is beyond awesome!
vinylman86 3 years ago
I had this box,it was very funny and with a sound that I like even now!
LuxX63 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Looks cool but a total piece of shit by todays standards.
djcondra 3 years ago
no music of today is a piece of shit music of the past is way better like the 70s 80s and early 90s instuments like this help make music more enjoyable to the listeners
Parallellines78 3 years ago 2
Para: I think the real issue is the loss of "heart" in instruments. There aren't any Bob Moogs around anymore.. Thank God for Dave Smith though...
And things are easier than ever.. there's no "finding out" process in keys or anything for that matter anymore..
Well..okay that's a generalization. I'm NEVER giving up my Korg microKORG! :D
ORUPRANKSTAZ 3 years ago
at 1:26 you can hear the pattern from in the air tonight by phil collins. who woulda knew that that beat was a preset that came with the drum machine.
anonymous904 3 years ago
these are programmed beats
ClearJack 3 years ago
thanx for the echo buddy you just repeated exactly what i said.
anonymous904 3 years ago
"programmed" beats and "preset" beats are a bit different in this case, my friend. the author of the video says in the description that there is no preset he could find that created the kick rhythm used in the song. so much for that echo, eh?
on another note, search youtube for "in the kraftwerk tonight" for an extra little treat.
humphreyorama 3 years ago
With the exception of a few extra bass drum kicks in the second half of the pattern, 'In the Air' tonight is just a preset disco rhythm. It repeats after four beats though (compared to Phil's eight beats), so there's not really a way to get those extra bass drum kicks without manually programming them.
I am curious why he would bother with this though - maybe four beats sounded a bit too repetitive?
mrduckbutt 3 years ago
Damn I'm totally copying that pattern at 00:20 so groovy! Great patterns, really nice demo.
aquadias 3 years ago
Damn that's OLD school. Haven't seen one of those in a LONG time.
rosetwitches 3 years ago
This rhythm box is amazing! It has such a great punch to the sounds. It was first designed for organists but contemporary artists of the time picked it up. It appears on The Buggles recording of "I Am a Camera" as and in many early New Wave tracks. I think Brian Eno used one as well.
nobushjrnonono 4 years ago
Can you use a sustain pedal to program it in place of a ws-1 or a footswitch? Just curious
cr78fan 4 years ago
Phil Collins loved his, I think. He used it a lot on his solo stuff, as well with Genesis. You can see him actively programming one on the DVD that came with the reissued Genesis album Duke. There is some live concert footage of the song Duchess, where he is actively manipulating the unit for the drum machine solo at the beginning of the song. It may be out here on youtube somewhere. Check it out.
bigblumer 4 years ago
I have one too but while the exterior is in pristine condition, I had to take out the internal battery which keeps the self-programmed rhythms in memory. It had started to leak and left a big mess on the mainboard :( I hope to find a terrible looking but good working model which sells for a reasonable price and combine the 2.
Ni5ei 4 years ago
yeah and the drum rolls at 101 secs are from 20th Century.
EBT07 4 years ago
a lot of John foxx in there
EBT07 4 years ago
Yeah starts to get into Hiroshima Mon Amour at about 20 secs. intro percussion to Numan's Remind Me To Smile (and Blondie's Heart Of Glass) at the start and later at 2.30.
UpTheShakers 4 years ago
this is THEE machine of the drum world. I just bought one for $5 dollars in a garage sale. Found out one went for $3,000 on ebay. Anyone got any idea how much they are worth. I presume the ebay one was immaculate???
mmmindcontrol 4 years ago
I bought a brand new machine around 1980 for $800 and sold it again for $200 in 1991. I never knew it made it to an antiquity.
Frank
jufralu 4 years ago
Thanks for the reply Frank. Good info to know. Maybe it's not the treaure trove i thought it was. Sounds damn good though.
mmmindcontrol 4 years ago
They sell for £450 in the UK if mint
ddominict 4 years ago
GaryNuman fan should notice that pattern at the begining.I use clock out of this to sync with the onboard step sequencer of SH101 pretty good fun.The way of programming beat on this is a bit naff but at least its able to make your own beat.Nice to see demo of this on Youtube good stuff man.
chinkogakusaizo 4 years ago
great machine man, i remember reading that Warren Cann and the Ultravox boys used this machine alot on the "vienna" record.. brilliant!
tomlund1983 4 years ago
Did you use a WS-1 to programme the rhythms or some other set up?
chorcha7 4 years ago
Since the WS-1's are so hard to find, I just used a simple pedal switch to do the programming. From what I recall, you initiate the recording and just press/close the switch to program in that voice (selected on the front panel).
The WS-1 might be smart enough to do the timing for you (i.e. programming on the next beat automatically, similar to a Linndrum). But doing it manually like this, you need to do your own timing .. so you have to close the switch precisely.
mrduckbutt 4 years ago
AWESOME!
DaR4Buff 4 years ago
I can feel it coming in the air tonight. Oh Lord
sleestack 4 years ago