Realy cool video but i think that in the shield wall you have to hold the spear up to you hed, because when you hold is under it when you try to hit someone whit your spear the sield wall is broken, and in this video everyone uses the spear as the principal weapon an Flavius Renatus vgetius in his militari compilation saids that the main weapon for the roman infarntri was the sword, bun it a great video.-
@toot65 There you are wrong. Infact the late roman army defeated all of the invasions and settled the ones they defeated and made them foederati. What happened to the western roman empire was not military collaps it was financial collapse and infighting between usurpers. The late roman army was far more flexible and specialized. Their cavalry were even better.
@MrBsct Ofcourse they did. The late roman army won all three gothic wars against the Goths. The Persian wars were stalemates, but from the early to the late roman army they managed to defeat the persians regards of lorica segmata or lorica hamata. All of the wars started by the Huns against they were defeated by the late roman army.
@G33KN3rd wow you sure won that argument....but no the assyrian army isnt better....that would have to depend on the terrain and what time period both armies that are fighting from
@LordAzanko depend on Terrain? the Army of Assyria fought from the snowy mountains of the Zagros, to the Arabian desert... Assyria invented incendiary arrows and clay pots that contained combustible substances, the battering ram and siege tower, the concept of Army Engineers, Calvary, and movable towers. If it wasn't for the influential power of Assyria, other empires like the Roman wouldn't be as famous as it is today, Assyria should be more famous than Rome.
@G33KN3rd well i never said they werent as good as the romans.....the assyria army was every bit as good as them.....all i was saying how would the battle be depending on the terrain...like forrest area or plains who would have an advantage....wasnt trying to start a flame war or anything.....
@LordAzanko sorry i guess I blew your comments main idea out of proportion, I think they would both be a stalemate but Roman might win due to the later periods of the use of Steel. Assyrians used Iron, IF the Assyrians were to invade Rome in their time, they would've won, but if they were to attack Rome in the Roman period, it would likely end in either a stalemate, or defeat; or the Assyrians would've invented other weaponries to fight against Rome, you never know what would've happened.
@G33KN3rd no worries man but its rather fascinating to wonder how they would have fared against each other but possessed very powerful armies and both were very good at terror tactics that's the reason they conquered so many cites....
Well you got to think around the mid 3 century AD, in 400 AD the Western Roman Empire was weak, & for 100's of years any one living outside of the nation was a ememy, for the first time Rome was forced to make friends with Barbarians to hold the Empire together ! Like America there are different races, with different races there are different cultures, & with that that the Army changed from Greek Hoplite looking soilders, into Barbarian Horde's !
wow i actually dont recall saying anything as stupid as what the comment says a i said. must have been high, ignore the comment everyone. i probably meant rome total war or something.
Barbarians wore pants. See the Severus Arch in Rome: prisoners in chain have pants. Eventually the Roman legions were influenced by them and incorporated lots of them. Also the role of the legion changed circa 250AD from an offensive to a defensive army..
At the time no one in there right minds would want to join the army ! You would be hiding, or on the run, or do something crazy like cut off you own Thums before the local Centurion, or Press Gang would force Draft you into the Army ! Plus once you got in it would be it horrible as working at Walmart ! the Benefits would be cut short, you would unlikey get paid at that time because the Taxes are High, & you would always have a fear to go into battle unarmor'ed (The most likey to get kill) !
Exept that soldiers and their families were exempted from all state taxes and burdens , had free meals, cloths, housing and were paid in land and grain aside from the cash. And unlike earlier legioneres coud legaly take wifes, and had promotion tree up to Augustus. Many IV and V century emperors rose from the ranks. So ieither Romans were total cowards, morons or economy was booming if they were not wiling to join.
You mean early Imperial sheilds. They changed to the oval shape in the 3rd century AD, I prefer the later shields because the designs are so colourful...check out the notitia dignattatum for the designs.
Realy cool video but i think that in the shield wall you have to hold the spear up to you hed, because when you hold is under it when you try to hit someone whit your spear the sield wall is broken, and in this video everyone uses the spear as the principal weapon an Flavius Renatus vgetius in his militari compilation saids that the main weapon for the roman infarntri was the sword, bun it a great video.-
JULIANUS78MB 2 months ago
the late roman armies ain`t got crap on the roman soldiers of 0 to 300 ad
toot65 1 year ago 4
@toot65 There you are wrong. Infact the late roman army defeated all of the invasions and settled the ones they defeated and made them foederati. What happened to the western roman empire was not military collaps it was financial collapse and infighting between usurpers. The late roman army was far more flexible and specialized. Their cavalry were even better.
Lavard14 8 months ago
@toot65 This is the army that defeated the persians, goths and huns over and over again.
Lavard14 8 months ago
@Lavard14 yes but they ever beat Rome in a war?no. Rome was defeated by coruption and by the German tribes.
Persian wars was a stalemate.
Goths found new home in France/
Huns retreated after Charlons.
The Vietcong was defeated over and over by Americans. Did the Americans win the war?
MrBsct 6 months ago
@MrBsct Ofcourse they did. The late roman army won all three gothic wars against the Goths. The Persian wars were stalemates, but from the early to the late roman army they managed to defeat the persians regards of lorica segmata or lorica hamata. All of the wars started by the Huns against they were defeated by the late roman army.
Lavard14 6 months ago
You can see that the late roman army was dominated by german soldiers by the way that they use the spear.
Vegetius93 1 year ago
@Vegetius93 Or the other way around. The Germannic troops started to use late roman army tactics.
Lavard14 6 months ago
this seems more similar to a greek phalanx to me...
TheCharliebro 1 year ago
Assyrian empire is better than Roman.
G33KN3rd 2 years ago
@G33KN3rd wow you sure won that argument....but no the assyrian army isnt better....that would have to depend on the terrain and what time period both armies that are fighting from
LordAzanko 1 year ago
@LordAzanko depend on Terrain? the Army of Assyria fought from the snowy mountains of the Zagros, to the Arabian desert... Assyria invented incendiary arrows and clay pots that contained combustible substances, the battering ram and siege tower, the concept of Army Engineers, Calvary, and movable towers. If it wasn't for the influential power of Assyria, other empires like the Roman wouldn't be as famous as it is today, Assyria should be more famous than Rome.
G33KN3rd 1 year ago
@G33KN3rd well i never said they werent as good as the romans.....the assyria army was every bit as good as them.....all i was saying how would the battle be depending on the terrain...like forrest area or plains who would have an advantage....wasnt trying to start a flame war or anything.....
LordAzanko 1 year ago
@LordAzanko sorry i guess I blew your comments main idea out of proportion, I think they would both be a stalemate but Roman might win due to the later periods of the use of Steel. Assyrians used Iron, IF the Assyrians were to invade Rome in their time, they would've won, but if they were to attack Rome in the Roman period, it would likely end in either a stalemate, or defeat; or the Assyrians would've invented other weaponries to fight against Rome, you never know what would've happened.
G33KN3rd 1 year ago
@G33KN3rd no worries man but its rather fascinating to wonder how they would have fared against each other but possessed very powerful armies and both were very good at terror tactics that's the reason they conquered so many cites....
LordAzanko 1 year ago
are some of the weapons here real?(not like ROMAN real, i mean steel)
Sacurason1 2 years ago
Cool video!
homerj109 3 years ago
Nice!
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Gangleri33 3 years ago
So when did the Romans soldiers go from wearing skirts to wearing pants?
Xenu 3 years ago
Well you got to think around the mid 3 century AD, in 400 AD the Western Roman Empire was weak, & for 100's of years any one living outside of the nation was a ememy, for the first time Rome was forced to make friends with Barbarians to hold the Empire together ! Like America there are different races, with different races there are different cultures, & with that that the Army changed from Greek Hoplite looking soilders, into Barbarian Horde's !
DEKA1 3 years ago
soudns like deka plays a lot of wow
Zelithe 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure that actually has little to do with that game. Sounds like you have trouble spelling on occasion though.
000majorwinters000 2 years ago
wow i actually dont recall saying anything as stupid as what the comment says a i said. must have been high, ignore the comment everyone. i probably meant rome total war or something.
Zelithe 2 years ago
Excused
000majorwinters000 2 years ago
Barbarians wore pants. See the Severus Arch in Rome: prisoners in chain have pants. Eventually the Roman legions were influenced by them and incorporated lots of them. Also the role of the legion changed circa 250AD from an offensive to a defensive army..
.. which accounts in part for the change in gear.
jceepf 3 years ago
At the time no one in there right minds would want to join the army ! You would be hiding, or on the run, or do something crazy like cut off you own Thums before the local Centurion, or Press Gang would force Draft you into the Army ! Plus once you got in it would be it horrible as working at Walmart ! the Benefits would be cut short, you would unlikey get paid at that time because the Taxes are High, & you would always have a fear to go into battle unarmor'ed (The most likey to get kill) !
DEKA1 3 years ago
Exept that soldiers and their families were exempted from all state taxes and burdens , had free meals, cloths, housing and were paid in land and grain aside from the cash. And unlike earlier legioneres coud legaly take wifes, and had promotion tree up to Augustus. Many IV and V century emperors rose from the ranks. So ieither Romans were total cowards, morons or economy was booming if they were not wiling to join.
strategus999 2 years ago
Yeah at that time The Roman army budget got so bad that if you were rich you had full armor, if you were poor you probley could afford a helmet !
Plus with those Shields, the Testudo kinda imposible with out getting arrows in the ranks !
DEKA1 3 years ago
awesome :) i love Roman equipment, but i like the large rectangular shields more.. is that the early period i am speaking of?
luckily, in my vids, all we have are war doors, the closest we are going to get to scutum. oh well.
poopwadmcgee 4 years ago
You mean early Imperial sheilds. They changed to the oval shape in the 3rd century AD, I prefer the later shields because the designs are so colourful...check out the notitia dignattatum for the designs.
anvilofcrom 3 years ago
yeah, mostly early romans, u know, hastati, principes, and the like
Sacurason1 2 years ago
Large and rectangular sounds like the imperial scutum. ( : So they'd have been legionaries.
000majorwinters000 2 years ago