how far away have you got your leds im doing my first led grow and cant decide on a height a few inch seems good doesnt burn but i also have tried 10 inch away it still seems fine but as i have nothing to compare it to would like to know what you think?
@tommo2147 I had a friend that growed this way and he moved them up about two inches per day. As long as they are close enough I do not think that it really matters. There is little or no heat so for the most part they can touch the plant with no problems. He used to use mirrors around the plants to make it even better seems that your idea would work as well.
@doughauf you should tell your friend to either use tin foil/mylar/white paint, mirrors are no good when it comes to reflecting light because they absorb 70% of the light shone into them. ;)
@meethrip Man dont use tin foil it can concentrate the light like tiny lttle lasers and burn the plant. Use mylar or paint flat white as you say. A benefit of using mylar is it blocks infrared heat so cops cant see the grow from a chopper.
to all those people out there debating L.E.D.s and H.I.Ds, one question:
which would you rather use to grow in a closet, 120w L.E.D, or 125w H.I.D.? the answer will tell you which is better. cost does not matter because in the end you will pay as much if not less to by a good L.E.D. unit and get way more in return. spectrum specific lighting is the only way to save money and get a better return.
and you wont yield shit. and it cost more over the lifetime of the fixure. quit buying shitty LEDs for too much money. i bought quality 5watt diodes( no one else uses these) for 300 each and they will run for 10 years no bulb change for penneis a day and will yield solid.
Bullshit have a led works an looks 10 times better then the one he used and yes i has great buds no bullshit have a buddy of mind thinks the same shit.every time i show him he lives it.
the problems with cfl's and led's is that there is no penetration. The light only services the top of the plants therefore to get the most out of them you have to have plastic netting over the plants and promote lateral growth meaning tie them to the netting and make them spread sideways so as to promote more surface area so to speak. The blue spectrum is for vegetative stage and red for flower. LED's are great but dont compare to mh or hps so the plants must be shaped to make the most of them
@rockondon the have no where near the photon drive as hid lighting. they are getting better but not there yet. they make for great supplemental lighting tho
im not arguing with u that cfls r fantastic. my grows r a bit bigger so cfls dont cut it. the quality is just as good but they dont have a high discharge. Ok leds are better in regard to spectrum thus efficiency therefore will give great results in quality. do a simple test. grow a large crop with leds the grow a large crop with hids. im sure your quality will be great on both but the hids will outperform the cfls any day in regards to weight. leds for larger grows are just not there.... yet
the wattage has nothing to do with the drive penetration of the light photons which are the particles of light that enter the leaf to react with chlorophyll to perform photosynthesis. learn what you are talking about b4 you comment. a torch is bright but it aint going to grow a 2 pound crop in a closet for you.
cfls work great because there in the perfect light spectrum just like the sun
example 8000 kelvin ultraviolet/blue to
2700 kelvin orangish yellowish/reds
perfect..also lotsa 6500k daylight they work awesome at 26watts per sq foot for veg and 60watt per sq foot for bud under cfls..there the alternative to heat/higher bills/safety..perfect
no argument there. but hids work better for plants that are larger. if you grow lots of small plants cfls are great or scrog or sog. I cant say that I have used hi intensity leds so im not entering that argument. but for the time being hids are better for larger taller grows. im sure that is a changing though in the future
tie them down, cut away anything under the netting and grow your plants scrog or sog style.. then you will see the leds work best. you can also put leds under the netting which works great. Look up scrog (screen of green) and sog (sea of green) if you are unsure what im talking about. Growing them tall like this is pointless so to speak coz u have to grow too many plants as only the tops get the light penetration. Well done for the video tho and well done on showing your leds
PEOPLE ONLY TALK BAD ABOUT L E D? someone has to do the r&d. once surface mounts become cheaper i think it will take off! they seem to work. the whole idea of l e ds is to remove Heat signature. GIVE IT TIME THEY WILL VICTOR
youd be better off with a 27dollar 6500kelvin daylight 68watt=500watt lights of america security
metal halide light at walmart and 1 2700kelvin
red flowering light at home depot 68watts=300watts ?and put in about 5-6 26 watt
6500 daylight and 26watt=150watt cfls at 3bucks a piece .from walmart total price about 70.00 bucks..schults flowering ferts 10-28-54 2.97/miracle grow 19-28-10 2.97 total price under 75bucks for everything with more light
.....disregard other comment...
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QuadroGuitarist 10 months ago
TOTAL B.S. There is no comparison against the HPS and METAL halides these are for armatures only!
onewaymetal 1 year ago
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hey about how much should i expect to pay for 120w led ufo or panel? Your plants look great! Thanks in advance.
jfont930 1 year ago
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jfont930 1 year ago
I'd buy LED is the future, i hate all the ballast and heat problems with hps...
serokserokserokserok 1 year ago
my led panel is 165 red and 65 blue
xxtruckin93xx 1 year ago
the square led is a 24watt witch is about the equal to a150-200watts hps
1102Enyce 1 year ago
@Kshawa They can not get a heat signature on them and you will not burn down your house that way.
doughauf 1 year ago
how far away have you got your leds im doing my first led grow and cant decide on a height a few inch seems good doesnt burn but i also have tried 10 inch away it still seems fine but as i have nothing to compare it to would like to know what you think?
thanks in advance :)
tommo2147 1 year ago
@tommo2147 I had a friend that growed this way and he moved them up about two inches per day. As long as they are close enough I do not think that it really matters. There is little or no heat so for the most part they can touch the plant with no problems. He used to use mirrors around the plants to make it even better seems that your idea would work as well.
doughauf 1 year ago
@doughauf you should tell your friend to either use tin foil/mylar/white paint, mirrors are no good when it comes to reflecting light because they absorb 70% of the light shone into them. ;)
meethrip 1 year ago
@meethrip Man dont use tin foil it can concentrate the light like tiny lttle lasers and burn the plant. Use mylar or paint flat white as you say. A benefit of using mylar is it blocks infrared heat so cops cant see the grow from a chopper.
blackrockgroup 7 months ago
lol
brookstown247 1 year ago
whats a good watt to go with led if ur going to be groing in a closet ?
kushdkings 1 year ago
hey friends, You made it. Most of you I know, and you took the words right outta my mouth, lol Peace!
silverpizza100 1 year ago
bullshit cfls are great full spectrum.you can get cfls in any size..there only economical for like a 2x2 or maybe a 3x3
area yes they still get hot.there really bright and work just as good as hps and
metal halide perfect for closets.safer and
work very very well also affordable and last almost 10years ha ha theres more proof cfls work in budding than led ufos.
rockondon 2 years ago
haha this guy is hilarious!
snm61185 2 years ago
i'd rather use cfls like this video seems to be doing??
rockondon 2 years ago
i agree
rockondon 2 years ago
to all those people out there debating L.E.D.s and H.I.Ds, one question:
which would you rather use to grow in a closet, 120w L.E.D, or 125w H.I.D.? the answer will tell you which is better. cost does not matter because in the end you will pay as much if not less to by a good L.E.D. unit and get way more in return. spectrum specific lighting is the only way to save money and get a better return.
cannasseur 2 years ago
i'd rather use htg supplys 150watt hps
onsale on ebay for 69 or 85 with shipping
only 10 or 15 a month to run..
rockondon 2 years ago
and you wont yield shit. and it cost more over the lifetime of the fixure. quit buying shitty LEDs for too much money. i bought quality 5watt diodes( no one else uses these) for 300 each and they will run for 10 years no bulb change for penneis a day and will yield solid.
cannasseur 2 years ago 2
were did u buy them from can you give me a ink please
showlifemang111 1 year ago
@showlifemang111 go to my videos and there is info in the sidebar of them.
cannasseur 1 year ago
@showlifemang111 l
reno4173 1 year ago
@showlifemang111 You can get them on the internet for cheap and the build a three light bulb plug for about 25.00 each. Simple and easy.
doughauf 1 year ago
well theyve had 85yrs to work on leds
there an intense light for there size.most people refer to ufos as nanometers
rockondon 2 years ago
whered you get the auto flower plants?
and can yu keep em from flowering?
rockondon 2 years ago
people keep thinking leds are new technology,if they were going to take off
theyd have taken off when they were first'
made over 85yrs ago..but entertaining
rockondon 2 years ago
leds go out in strips,i got a brand new 1
paid 110 bucks and it came broken.leds suck.CFLS ARE BRIGHT AND PUT OFF
HUGE AMOUNTS OF blue/red spectrum
6500kelvin and 2700kelvin..i could grow what you have here with 20bucks 4 blue cfls 14watts
4red cfls
rockondon 2 years ago
Bullshit have a led works an looks 10 times better then the one he used and yes i has great buds no bullshit have a buddy of mind thinks the same shit.every time i show him he lives it.
killerbud14 2 years ago
the problems with cfl's and led's is that there is no penetration. The light only services the top of the plants therefore to get the most out of them you have to have plastic netting over the plants and promote lateral growth meaning tie them to the netting and make them spread sideways so as to promote more surface area so to speak. The blue spectrum is for vegetative stage and red for flower. LED's are great but dont compare to mh or hps so the plants must be shaped to make the most of them
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
the cfls have plenty of penetration.the 68watt=300watts work great and the 26watter blue daylights veg great.THEY PENETRATE awesome because there
so fucking bright in the right spectrum
rockondon 2 years ago
@rockondon the have no where near the photon drive as hid lighting. they are getting better but not there yet. they make for great supplemental lighting tho
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
@IstilGotGame ofcoarse there not hid lights but they do just as good.ive got hid
cfls and leds..im more impressed with cfls than any other light.cfls are perfect
for the average medical grow closet,i use
7800 kelvins 6500ks and 2700ks.Ive seen
horrible led grows..leds are way to much
money for what they do?cfls are cheap and do awesome
rockondon 2 years ago
im not arguing with u that cfls r fantastic. my grows r a bit bigger so cfls dont cut it. the quality is just as good but they dont have a high discharge. Ok leds are better in regard to spectrum thus efficiency therefore will give great results in quality. do a simple test. grow a large crop with leds the grow a large crop with hids. im sure your quality will be great on both but the hids will outperform the cfls any day in regards to weight. leds for larger grows are just not there.... yet
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
cfls do cut it..there very powerful lights
rockondon 2 years ago
the wattage has nothing to do with the drive penetration of the light photons which are the particles of light that enter the leaf to react with chlorophyll to perform photosynthesis. learn what you are talking about b4 you comment. a torch is bright but it aint going to grow a 2 pound crop in a closet for you.
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
cfls work great because there in the perfect light spectrum just like the sun
example 8000 kelvin ultraviolet/blue to
2700 kelvin orangish yellowish/reds
perfect..also lotsa 6500k daylight they work awesome at 26watts per sq foot for veg and 60watt per sq foot for bud under cfls..there the alternative to heat/higher bills/safety..perfect
rockondon 2 years ago
@IstilGotGame if you know about growing
youd know that EVEN HIDS cannot penetrate much more than the tops either
thats why the high penetrating lights of cfls work great..most people focus on tops.cfls will work as good as hids with
enough lights..now leds are a waste of time/money
rockondon 2 years ago
no argument there. but hids work better for plants that are larger. if you grow lots of small plants cfls are great or scrog or sog. I cant say that I have used hi intensity leds so im not entering that argument. but for the time being hids are better for larger taller grows. im sure that is a changing though in the future
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
you can get a 12pack of cfls for 20bucks
and put 1 14watt light per main bud on a
large 9foot tall plant ..they can do large areas.they have 300watt cfls now as of 2010..hella bright
rockondon 2 years ago
tie them down, cut away anything under the netting and grow your plants scrog or sog style.. then you will see the leds work best. you can also put leds under the netting which works great. Look up scrog (screen of green) and sog (sea of green) if you are unsure what im talking about. Growing them tall like this is pointless so to speak coz u have to grow too many plants as only the tops get the light penetration. Well done for the video tho and well done on showing your leds
IstilGotGame 2 years ago
using l e ds for weed is like digging for gold with a
battery powered drill,if ya want alot of gold you
need dynamite..lol
rockondon 2 years ago
PEOPLE ONLY TALK BAD ABOUT L E D? someone has to do the r&d. once surface mounts become cheaper i think it will take off! they seem to work. the whole idea of l e ds is to remove Heat signature. GIVE IT TIME THEY WILL VICTOR
teamgrn 2 years ago
youd be better off with a 27dollar 6500kelvin daylight 68watt=500watt lights of america security
metal halide light at walmart and 1 2700kelvin
red flowering light at home depot 68watts=300watts ?and put in about 5-6 26 watt
6500 daylight and 26watt=150watt cfls at 3bucks a piece .from walmart total price about 70.00 bucks..schults flowering ferts 10-28-54 2.97/miracle grow 19-28-10 2.97 total price under 75bucks for everything with more light
than you have now..
rockondon 2 years ago
no training at all? LST?
crazyxm3th0ds 2 years ago
can i use any led's..cuz i got some led's i got from a toy and some lights.????check my plants out i grew them with cfl's....
sagaweed 2 years ago
how many weeks old are they?
leeea7x 2 years ago
drop the lights a little man.. if you want short and bushy
salwei69 2 years ago
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rockondon 2 years ago
lookin GOOD
odin422 2 years ago