Some keep comparing Shuai Jiao to Judo but I feel it resembles Aikido more with the highly fluid motions.Really Judo is to rough and relies to much on muscle to be compared with this internal style.
You say that but when you have Geesik, a very tall and stong man, simply destorying everybody else at the olympics I have to say the difference is his size.Weight always adds a strength and size advantage and that is one reason Judo is divided into weight classes.
Judo is divided into weight classes because weight does make a difference. You'd be a fool to think size doesn't make a difference when skill level is the same, regardless of the art.
The only similarity between SJ and Aikido in this demonstration where compliant partners are used.
As a former Aikidoka and current Judoka I find the comment about Judo being rough and requiring muscle hilarious. Very common argument made by Aikidoka needing to justify the watered down nature of the art.
Ummm I am not an Aikidoka I practice BJJ. Still you have to admit to many of the techniques in Judo are just pure strength and would be difficult for a weaker opponent to apply on a stronger opponent.
Heh, the Gracie clan quit denying the connection between GJJ and Judo a long time ago. What you say still holds true for BJJ.
I practice with BJJ guys often and even they admit size makes a difference. Some guys are just too big or heavy to sweep, lock triangle chokes on, etc. This is no different for Judo or any other art.
Leverage is what both Judo and BJJ come down to and sometimes size differences are too big to get leverage. But that doesn't mean all techniques are nothing but muscle.
One I never said size does not count as you see from my previous comment. Two i did not say that all of judo's techniques were pure muslce. I said too many of the techniques were pure muscle. Basic stuff like osoto gari and single legs will almost always work.Techniques like uchimata well not so much.
Claiming Aikido is refined is garbage - of course it will look refined when partners always comply and never resist. However, its no secret that Aikidoka are far less able to apply their techniques to a resisting partner than Judoka.
Were Aikido as superior to other arts as Aikidoka often think it wouldn't be a 4th rate art even in Japan. BJJ should be close to surpassing Aikido in popularity in Japan.
Lol I feel this just resembles a shitty, choreographed demo. You can't judge SC by that.
Judo, Greco-roman and Shuai Jiao use about the same amount of "muscle" in their techniques. If you don't believe me, search for "Beijing style shuaijiao" on youtube and you will see some techniques.
Shoubo means bare handed figthing, this terms comes from circa 1098 B.C,this is just one of many ancient terms that were used to describe chinese martial arts
There're countless benefit of learning aikido,
1) A lot of breakfalls, Ukemi.
2) Aikido teach to avoid direct conflict.
3) Aikido got weapons.
4) Aikido get better with experience and wouldn't deteriorate with age.
So i believe there're reason behind everythings exist.
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SuperTutorialKing 2 years ago
Some keep comparing Shuai Jiao to Judo but I feel it resembles Aikido more with the highly fluid motions.Really Judo is to rough and relies to much on muscle to be compared with this internal style.
Plato86 3 years ago
No man good Judo relies on good teq don't need very much muscle.
gdataggy 3 years ago
You say that but when you have Geesik, a very tall and stong man, simply destorying everybody else at the olympics I have to say the difference is his size.Weight always adds a strength and size advantage and that is one reason Judo is divided into weight classes.
Plato86 3 years ago
Judo is divided into weight classes because weight does make a difference. You'd be a fool to think size doesn't make a difference when skill level is the same, regardless of the art.
The only similarity between SJ and Aikido in this demonstration where compliant partners are used.
As a former Aikidoka and current Judoka I find the comment about Judo being rough and requiring muscle hilarious. Very common argument made by Aikidoka needing to justify the watered down nature of the art.
opivy22 3 years ago
Ummm I am not an Aikidoka I practice BJJ. Still you have to admit to many of the techniques in Judo are just pure strength and would be difficult for a weaker opponent to apply on a stronger opponent.
Plato86 3 years ago
Heh, the Gracie clan quit denying the connection between GJJ and Judo a long time ago. What you say still holds true for BJJ.
I practice with BJJ guys often and even they admit size makes a difference. Some guys are just too big or heavy to sweep, lock triangle chokes on, etc. This is no different for Judo or any other art.
Leverage is what both Judo and BJJ come down to and sometimes size differences are too big to get leverage. But that doesn't mean all techniques are nothing but muscle.
opivy22 3 years ago
One I never said size does not count as you see from my previous comment. Two i did not say that all of judo's techniques were pure muslce. I said too many of the techniques were pure muscle. Basic stuff like osoto gari and single legs will almost always work.Techniques like uchimata well not so much.
Plato86 3 years ago
Claiming Aikido is refined is garbage - of course it will look refined when partners always comply and never resist. However, its no secret that Aikidoka are far less able to apply their techniques to a resisting partner than Judoka.
Were Aikido as superior to other arts as Aikidoka often think it wouldn't be a 4th rate art even in Japan. BJJ should be close to surpassing Aikido in popularity in Japan.
opivy22 3 years ago
Lol I feel this just resembles a shitty, choreographed demo. You can't judge SC by that.
Judo, Greco-roman and Shuai Jiao use about the same amount of "muscle" in their techniques. If you don't believe me, search for "Beijing style shuaijiao" on youtube and you will see some techniques.
CarNikolaj 2 years ago
this is a Kung fu
mestreluke 3 years ago
This is like an incredibly bad aikido demonstration.
JustGuess500 4 years ago
ha ha~
chungkkk 4 years ago
what is shoubo?
musicdisciple 4 years ago
Shoubo means bare handed figthing, this terms comes from circa 1098 B.C,this is just one of many ancient terms that were used to describe chinese martial arts
Tianshanwarrior 4 years ago
cool
theshadowboy607 5 years ago