[Cryptomnesia] Animal Crossing: Let's go to the copy

[MarioAnimalCrossing]

I thought EarthBound was the only game that copied music, a lot of it came from the Beatles.

[KiyoKenshin]

i think that last one was more just two songs that happen to have the same tempo. but it matched quite well, phrasing and everything!

[tepples]

@KiyoKenshin Then I guess the moral is if it's this easy to make songs that accidentally match, then how can anyone sue for plagiarism?

[GuitarKidAvalon]

hmm.... i think mr.ressetti wants to call u a loser 4 going through all this trouble XD

[tgirlk421]

Kirby's avalanche looks like Puyo Pop and Dr. Eggman's Mean Bean machine

[MissLolcats101]

come on. Resetti's theme sounds nothing like take me out. I highly doubt that the creator of these tracks would sit, listening to these thinking ''ooh, this is good i'll copy that''. Though the Kirby game and the GC version sound the same, but they are both nintendo.

[Boltothemage]

@MissLolcats101 People don't intentionally look at songs and say "Oh, this is good, I think I'll copy it". Most of the time it is unintentional, and they subconsciously think of the song's motifs because they are familiar of them. And before you even try to pull the idea that all these songs are Western songs, Western rock is actually pretty popular in some groups in Japan. In fact, you can walk into stores in Japan and hear them playing Western music.

[Heero691]

The funny thing is... if this was possibly discovered early in years and i mean if all this happened maybe in the 80s or somthing... this could have been a big deal...

But now... Every possible god forsaken music artist out there currently, are all currently taking past songs and then covering/remixing the song into their own style of music...

I like to call this age of music "The Recycling Age"

Because lets face it... They are running out of ideas for new songs.... You can't deny it...

[rubin3364]

Wild World is not Californication; It's major, CFC is minor.

[megaetk]

@rubin3364 A judge looks for substantial similarity, not exact similarity. Minor details get glossed over on purpose. It's like trying to use the defense that "He's So Fine" was in G and "My Sweet Lord" was in F.

[Mudkip183]

DONT HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Popcornboy004]

RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS FOR THE WIN!!

[LuigiDude1808]

Wait, so the definition of copying is having about three seconds sounding similar to another song? Phail.

[tepples]

@LuigiDude1808 Courts have used such a definition, yes.

[ravenhawking]

There is no copyright on three notes of a song strung together. This is just coincidence. That would be like saying the intro to High Seas Havoc is plaguing the FF Series.

However, a real example is "Avril Lavigne copying The Rubinoos." Search that.

[ScienceFictionHairdo]

Well the resetti theme with Franz ferdinand is a cool remix, thumbs up, but a bad example of cryptomnesia.

[ScienceFictionHairdo]

The animal crossing examples were just lame. Sorry. That's like three notes that are the same. I've seen heard way sicker examples, where entire songs would appear to be perfect matches.

[purplemist7]

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. Just because parts of melodies sound similar, doesn't mean that they're doing something as seedy as ripping off other people's work. Just a coincidence.

[tepples]

If you write a song, and a coincidence happens, you can still be found liable for infringement.

[purplemist7]

True, but I just don't see this as "evidence" that someone could use to go forward with a lawsuit.

Oh well. Interesting idea, anyway.

[MikeDPGuitar]

Did you think about the copyright dates for ANY of these songs?

[tepples]

Yes.

Copyright dates relative to each other: Kirby's Avalanche was before Animal Crossing 1, and the Beatles and Michele Wagner were before Animal Crossing: Wild World. You might have a point about Take Me Out vs. AC1, but the version of Resetti's theme in ACWW sounds a lot more like Take Me Out than AC1's version does.

Copyright dates relative to expiry threshold (1923): This video is a criticism of the works, and I don't make money, therefore fair use.

[vashgs]

Silly conspiracy theorist. I doubt Totaka is sitting in his basement in Japan listening to Red Hot Chili Peppers and Michele Wagner. Considering most of his melodies predate any of the songs mentioned (excluding, of course, The Beatles) it's just silly to make these comparisons.

[Popcornboy004]

@vashgs Uh no. Californication was made before the AC themes.

[zakiemon]

omg. I never even noticed these, I just found them catchy tunes.

[legolord575]

Shit your right!

[lilsmoke99]

Wow... That was a waste of time. It's sorta sad people watch out for that... Don't they have something else to do?

Seriously... TONS of songs have the same beats at points. But not all through.

[tepples]

Yes, some copyright lawyers are sad people.

[iFevy]

My, my... Mr. Resetti and Franz Ferdinand make a good duo.

[prinnylord3]

I love animal crossing =)

[ResidentEvilfan605]

lol wow that to great take me out n that shound alike lol

[ToonLink1239]

WOW!!!

You're clever to notice!

[RAINBOWRAGE2]

boring

[combinownage]

This video makes no sense what so ever.

Wow, 1 riff in a theme sounds similar. How are you going to be sued for that? There are only a number of riffs out there and out of all the possible choices, that could be a coincidence. Etherway, Resetti's theme soudns nothing like Take me Out.

[tepples]

How would one be sued? Google "Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music" and "Three Boys Music v. Michael Bolton".

[combinownage]

How many of those did the one suing win?

[tepples]

Both of them.

[accityfolk]

Honestly the only two that sound the same are D and E.

[PipoStan]

I love how you said the line from Here, There, and Everywhere: "Nobody can deny there's something there". You give some things to think about, tepp'.

[stbanvh]

LOL nice video

[BobisOnlyBob]

Uncanny. I doubt any of them are deliberate or direct copies, but cryptomnesia provides the reasonable doubt that would explain it. Failing that (it's possible the composer of Mr Resetti's theme has never heard Franz Ferdinand) it's just as likely that the simple note patterns in each are common because of the limited scales we consider "in key". The conventions of music are now global, and what was once a sound unique to classical is now prevalent in all music, thus coincidences have increased.

[urwhiteshadow16]

whoa you've done your homework havent you :)

[tepples]

This is the way we dispute the claim, dispute the claim, dispute the claim. This is the way we dispute the claim so early in the morning.

[wwwwolf]

Whoa, that looks like the GC Animal Crossing title screen screenie I uploaded to MobyGames. This is like second time I find people using random stuff I've made in YouTube. Cool. =)

[clickwheeldu]

Haha, wow. very interesting.

[lucarioguy102]

your wrong....it doesnt even sound similar, stop making people think the animal crossing theme is a copy its not, nintendo totally made up this theme themselves so give them credit

[MortalDonkey]

I think you're really reading too much into it here. Also, you have one of the worst voices for vlogs imaginable you need to just speak in your normal tone rather than making your voice lower, because it sounds like you're in quite a bit of pain.

[tepples]

MD: The only pain I'm in is fear of having the same thing happen to me that happened to George Harrison with "My Sweet Lord". That's why I try to raise awareness of this issue.

[supermanadamio]

I mean the Mario Starman... and that graduation song- it's supposed to be like Pachabels canon in D because they bought the rights of the song to make their own version. (sort of like Fergie and the sex and the city theme song)

[comansargent]

HOLY SHIT! You're right, or you might have gotten it all stuffed and everyone liked Animal Crossing so much, they ripped off their music.

[supermanadamio]

Also, If you played Kirby Superstar, the title screen is just like the Mario Star theme, and The eight melodies from earthbound is Pachabels Canon in D, and Luigi's Mansion is "in the hall of the mountain king"

[tepples]

I don't get your first example. Did you mean the starman invincibility music? Or "Mario gets a star" from Super Mario 64?

I haven't played Earthbound. But if you want Pachelbel's "Canon in D", look no further than "Yatta!" by Happatai and "Graduation (Friends Forever). Still, the |: I-IV-vi-iii-IV-I-IV-V :| loop of "Canon in D" is public domain by now, so no one can complain.

[TheEnd1190]

the remix at the end was awesome :P

[Donald124z]

interesting...

[piggybankvillan]

I think it's cool. Coincidence or not.

[dusthillguy]

I try to write music sometimes, and in my opinion it's impossible to create something truly original (without making something very complicated or creating an entirely new system of music).

There are only so many chords and scales, and there are only so many good combinations of these chords and scales.

The clips in this video do share some elements, but some of them (for example, the beginning chords of the kirby song) are quite fundamental, so many different people could come up with them.

[dusthillguy]

But in any case, this is a fascinating series of videos, and is FANTASTIC. It's good to see you making another series of videos, Damian. I'll be watching these.

[AquaRobotnik]

I never noticed that...That's awesome!

I did stumble across something interesting a week ago: In the 'Everybody Votes' channel for Wii, the music U hear when looking at voter data is from Mario Paint.

[zachthirtyfour]

Gee it only took like 20 mins. for this thing to play through with all the stopping for loading. >.>

[huntersora2]

Interesting. o.o