I agree with you on this issue. I might dispute what Christians say about Wiccans and Pagans; usually when they are giving disinformation. I will point out contradictions in faith, but every path from Christianity to Paganism is legit. To me I love Wicca because it is open for people to build their own relationship with their deities. To get to know the ones they meet; to learn that someone denies others their path? Even Christian Wicca is legit.
Great video....so sad to see such closed minded people. I have met people like that before. It is as bad as going to church. But like I always say you cannot judge someone by their title. I am not wiccan and have not been welcome at circles becuase I do not believe exactly what they do :( Same thing with churches....I would love to help and volunteer but again not welcome. My best friend is Christian and loves me becuase she knows who I am inside and we both serve god in our own way.
@Cjaz84 It does not matter what one calls themselves it is who you are inside. This person sounds pretty ignorant, that you are talking about. Paganism includes many faiths, from Hinduism to religions of south America. Also we all agree that we need to treat others as we wish to be treated.
I do strongly believe in what you have said. I do not feel we have any right to victimize any other religion. In our entire history, we, the pagans and the wiccans, have never enjoyed the prejudice and discrimination presented to us. Why in the name of all that's holy do we want to dish it out to others, it doesn't prove anything. I was like that once, it has to be said, I was angry, I was very easily offended but now my initiation is next year, I have learnt and I am happier for doing so. :D.
@charliecastle Awesome. I agree myself. Congrats on the upcoming initiation. Me, I just dislike anyone who tries putting others down and I'm not afraid to say so and that is how I ended up hated. Oh well. Blessings
i hope i shall not fail the goddess and god my tradition is what you could call wiccan but is strongly rooted in as many of the old ways that i can find but its not easy to find as many of the old ways are well guarded by family traditions at least from what i have found. i have been seriously practiceing for 6 years i do have interest in the old ways my hope is to bring wicca and the old ways as close together as possible so any information is apreciated
@ruku871 What information are you interested in? As long as you are strong, true, loyal, and everything above and below in your heart then you won't fail.
@DyingInTheLight well as far as information i am kind of a sponge soaking up whatever knowledge i can get my brain on so anything you can provide i mean i know the laws and can easily reference correspondences and am adept at setting up and preforming ritual. any of the more fine tuned information like other ways of meditation and and divination anything that could give me a better level of insight. i also guess i should tell you my beliefs on the goddess and the god interested?
Wow, glad I missed the video she did. Very surprizing becasue she struck me as being very ditzy, but not mean. How weird! I tried watching one of her vids a long, long time ago and I couldn't bear to listen for more than a few seconds, and the whole "celtic wiccan" thing had me shaking my head as well.
But anyhow, good response. If you don't mind me asking, cause you got me curious, what tradition are you from?
@Lanthiriel Yea, it was not pleasent at all. You tube pulled it because we passed it around and it got flagged as hate speech. I practice the old ways, there is nothing neo or new age in my practices.
Greetings again. It is interesting how some profess a path of nature, seemingly dismissing the natural order of things (not referring to you, of course). Green Celtic Wicca is not appealing to me yet, pardon my incredulity.
@MrSolitaryOne It personally doesn't matter to me what ppl follow, but to call all of them satan and that because they don't hate non Pagans that they are fakes and frauds really ticks me off. honestly green celtic wicca sounds a bit made up to me and not appealing at all, but I don't go around claiming anyone who follows it are frauds, I simply say I have no interest in it.
Thank you. I just thought that attacking the entire Pagan/Wiccan community calling the fakes and wannabe's because they don't hate non Pagans. Especially those who practice the darker arts. Sounds like a big hypocrite to me.
I know, the only wiccan I know off the web is me. Even though I'm not a full wiccan. I'm still learning more about the Gods and Goddesses and the Holidays. All my friends are catholic and christian and my whole family are catholics but they are open-minded about paganism and wicca.
Actually, yes I did. thank you. I wanted to make sure it was at least somewhat clear. Tho I do have a few parts that wasn't written that It just popped into my head at the last moment. I was taught write it down first, if it sounds right then continue if not try again.
Also where did I claim high priestess? I didn't rotflol. Let me guess, its ok for someone else to attack all Pagans and Wiccans saying that there fake pagans and or wiccans because they associate with non pagans or wiccans. But if they defend themselves, oh there attacking and being a bigot. Seriously. WHATEVER Funny, I don't obsess or worship myself, so there's nothing to get over..
Elder: Yea, 29 years. I see you obviously didn't pay attention to what I said. I commented on hummingbirds abuse of non pagans and wiccans. I don't hate christians, so try again I commented that she was no better that right wing christians who abuse others. In cause you missed it which you did. She is the 1 who stated that all Pagans and wiccans who associate with non pagans arent real pagans or wiccans. Watch AuroraMoonWolf's video. She even emailed and attacked her.
oh and i would hardly call what she claims credentials all she has done is stated who she has associated with and i really dont see most of the people she claims an association with as a source of valid information to begin with
LOL. I honestly think, she thinks she's something special. Of course now those who think she has a right to harass, attack, and mock all other Pagans and or wiccans will come out and start their nit picking, whining, and complaining at me. Whatever. Old Paganism, the Ancient ways. This is before Judiasm, Christianity, and before Gardner. What I find sad is the fact if we defend ourselves then were the ones attack, and mocking. Something is seriously missing if its ok for 1 to attack the entire
she does have a right to attack the entire pagan community but when she says things like "logic has no place in paganism" and "we wiccans and eclectic pagans are following the ancient goddess religion" we have every right to criticize her for her hateful and delusional ideas about history and her religion
I feel that she has no right to insult other pagans and or wiccans while trying to act like she's something special. But she will, and we have a right to call her on that hatred. Not to mention show her for the hypocritical hate-filled bigot she is.
Oh yea she dure does have every right no one ever said she didn't, but to attack Every Pagan in the world? Seriously that is insane. Her video was removed for hate speech but she attcked every Pagan/Wiccan and said that if they did not hate non Pagans, especially those who practice the darker side: IE Satanism and such That they were just of wanna be losers who "play" at the Pagan belief. A bunch of us took that as a great insult. She has NO right to say who is and is not Pagan, no matter what.
I agree with you on this issue. I might dispute what Christians say about Wiccans and Pagans; usually when they are giving disinformation. I will point out contradictions in faith, but every path from Christianity to Paganism is legit. To me I love Wicca because it is open for people to build their own relationship with their deities. To get to know the ones they meet; to learn that someone denies others their path? Even Christian Wicca is legit.
Thanks for posting the video,
Blessings.
SeramiNefera 1 month ago
Great video....so sad to see such closed minded people. I have met people like that before. It is as bad as going to church. But like I always say you cannot judge someone by their title. I am not wiccan and have not been welcome at circles becuase I do not believe exactly what they do :( Same thing with churches....I would love to help and volunteer but again not welcome. My best friend is Christian and loves me becuase she knows who I am inside and we both serve god in our own way.
Cjaz84 4 months ago
@Cjaz84 It does not matter what one calls themselves it is who you are inside. This person sounds pretty ignorant, that you are talking about. Paganism includes many faiths, from Hinduism to religions of south America. Also we all agree that we need to treat others as we wish to be treated.
Cjaz84 4 months ago
I do strongly believe in what you have said. I do not feel we have any right to victimize any other religion. In our entire history, we, the pagans and the wiccans, have never enjoyed the prejudice and discrimination presented to us. Why in the name of all that's holy do we want to dish it out to others, it doesn't prove anything. I was like that once, it has to be said, I was angry, I was very easily offended but now my initiation is next year, I have learnt and I am happier for doing so. :D.
charliecastle 1 year ago
@charliecastle Awesome. I agree myself. Congrats on the upcoming initiation. Me, I just dislike anyone who tries putting others down and I'm not afraid to say so and that is how I ended up hated. Oh well. Blessings
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
@DyingInTheLight Blessings to you also. :D
charliecastle 1 year ago
@charliecastle :o)
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
i hope i shall not fail the goddess and god my tradition is what you could call wiccan but is strongly rooted in as many of the old ways that i can find but its not easy to find as many of the old ways are well guarded by family traditions at least from what i have found. i have been seriously practiceing for 6 years i do have interest in the old ways my hope is to bring wicca and the old ways as close together as possible so any information is apreciated
ruku871 1 year ago
@ruku871 What information are you interested in? As long as you are strong, true, loyal, and everything above and below in your heart then you won't fail.
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
@DyingInTheLight well as far as information i am kind of a sponge soaking up whatever knowledge i can get my brain on so anything you can provide i mean i know the laws and can easily reference correspondences and am adept at setting up and preforming ritual. any of the more fine tuned information like other ways of meditation and and divination anything that could give me a better level of insight. i also guess i should tell you my beliefs on the goddess and the god interested?
ruku871 1 year ago
@ruku871 Yea sure. I don't use divination much myself. Meditation I can help with.
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
You are right, bigotry have no place anywhere! I would like to meet you; you sound like you are my kind of person.
TheGoldenWildcat 1 year ago
@TheGoldenWildcat Thank you. Sorry its been so long since I have been on.
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
Wow, glad I missed the video she did. Very surprizing becasue she struck me as being very ditzy, but not mean. How weird! I tried watching one of her vids a long, long time ago and I couldn't bear to listen for more than a few seconds, and the whole "celtic wiccan" thing had me shaking my head as well.
But anyhow, good response. If you don't mind me asking, cause you got me curious, what tradition are you from?
Lanthiriel 2 years ago
@Lanthiriel Yea, it was not pleasent at all. You tube pulled it because we passed it around and it got flagged as hate speech. I practice the old ways, there is nothing neo or new age in my practices.
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
I'm the same, I practice old ways, not New Age. It annoys me when people think of paganism and Wicca as the same thing.
princessannikki 2 years ago 2
@princessannikki Yes
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
Greetings again. It is interesting how some profess a path of nature, seemingly dismissing the natural order of things (not referring to you, of course). Green Celtic Wicca is not appealing to me yet, pardon my incredulity.
MrSolitaryOne 2 years ago
@MrSolitaryOne It personally doesn't matter to me what ppl follow, but to call all of them satan and that because they don't hate non Pagans that they are fakes and frauds really ticks me off. honestly green celtic wicca sounds a bit made up to me and not appealing at all, but I don't go around claiming anyone who follows it are frauds, I simply say I have no interest in it.
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
In really like this video. HummingBird is going to get bad karma. DyingInTheLight, you really are an awesome person.
DemonKayko 2 years ago
Thank you. I just thought that attacking the entire Pagan/Wiccan community calling the fakes and wannabe's because they don't hate non Pagans. Especially those who practice the darker arts. Sounds like a big hypocrite to me.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
I know, the only wiccan I know off the web is me. Even though I'm not a full wiccan. I'm still learning more about the Gods and Goddesses and the Holidays. All my friends are catholic and christian and my whole family are catholics but they are open-minded about paganism and wicca.
DemonKayko 2 years ago
Well that's cool, many family and friends flip out when their child says I've converted and im now Pagan or wiccan. Welcome and Blessings.
Namaste
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
@DemonKayko Thank you
DyingInTheLight 1 year ago
AWESOME, just absolutely awesome.
thedarkmoonmidnight 2 years ago
Thank you :o)
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
It sounds written.
cgray6306 2 years ago
Written how?
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
Like you wrote it done.
Not putting you down.
Its just really well said.
cgray6306 2 years ago
Actually, yes I did. thank you. I wanted to make sure it was at least somewhat clear. Tho I do have a few parts that wasn't written that It just popped into my head at the last moment. I was taught write it down first, if it sounds right then continue if not try again.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
so you never answered what kind of old paganism do you follow?
Ofrolvi 2 years ago
Oh. Well honestly a lil bit of all of it. I could list them but I think you understand. :o)
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
Also where did I claim high priestess? I didn't rotflol. Let me guess, its ok for someone else to attack all Pagans and Wiccans saying that there fake pagans and or wiccans because they associate with non pagans or wiccans. But if they defend themselves, oh there attacking and being a bigot. Seriously. WHATEVER Funny, I don't obsess or worship myself, so there's nothing to get over..
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
Elder: Yea, 29 years. I see you obviously didn't pay attention to what I said. I commented on hummingbirds abuse of non pagans and wiccans. I don't hate christians, so try again I commented that she was no better that right wing christians who abuse others. In cause you missed it which you did. She is the 1 who stated that all Pagans and wiccans who associate with non pagans arent real pagans or wiccans. Watch AuroraMoonWolf's video. She even emailed and attacked her.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
oh and i would hardly call what she claims credentials all she has done is stated who she has associated with and i really dont see most of the people she claims an association with as a source of valid information to begin with
Ofrolvi 2 years ago
LOL. I honestly think, she thinks she's something special. Of course now those who think she has a right to harass, attack, and mock all other Pagans and or wiccans will come out and start their nit picking, whining, and complaining at me. Whatever. Old Paganism, the Ancient ways. This is before Judiasm, Christianity, and before Gardner. What I find sad is the fact if we defend ourselves then were the ones attack, and mocking. Something is seriously missing if its ok for 1 to attack the entire
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
community and clay claims that they are fakes because they dont see it like her and hate all non Pagans or Wiccans.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
she does have a right to attack the entire pagan community but when she says things like "logic has no place in paganism" and "we wiccans and eclectic pagans are following the ancient goddess religion" we have every right to criticize her for her hateful and delusional ideas about history and her religion
Ofrolvi 2 years ago
I feel that she has no right to insult other pagans and or wiccans while trying to act like she's something special. But she will, and we have a right to call her on that hatred. Not to mention show her for the hypocritical hate-filled bigot she is.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
Oh sure, she has the right to say whatever she wants. She has the right to post it all over the Internet.
But everyone else also has the right to blow her off and not listen to a word she says.
sundragon0330 2 years ago
Oh yea she dure does have every right no one ever said she didn't, but to attack Every Pagan in the world? Seriously that is insane. Her video was removed for hate speech but she attcked every Pagan/Wiccan and said that if they did not hate non Pagans, especially those who practice the darker side: IE Satanism and such That they were just of wanna be losers who "play" at the Pagan belief. A bunch of us took that as a great insult. She has NO right to say who is and is not Pagan, no matter what.
DyingInTheLight 2 years ago
which old paganism?
Ofrolvi 2 years ago