RAPTURE IS A FALSE TEACHING,DO NOT FOLLOW THE "WRONG CHRIST"(ANTI)THINKING HE'S THE REAL CHRIST.SATAN COMES B4 CHRIST,NO RAPTURE!!! NOT ARGUING,IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
@toonful ::: There is a rapture! No, there is only a second coming! We will be spared. No, we have to suffer thru the tribulation. And why this discrepancy? Because we go to the bible for the answers, but find confusion instead. Since God is not the author of confusion, neither is He the author of that book we call the bible. All who prophesy from the bible will have the Harold Camping experience, failure assured.
@k0smon are you saying a rapture is true? it's not...Camping is using "traditions of man" NOT the TRUE WORD OF GOD,are you saying the Bible isn't the TRUTH??? if so,i'm done with you,& what you think,cause I get that you're just some nutt that "thinks they know EVERYTHING,& really know NOTHING,just like that nutt Camping.
@k0smon we'll see in the end,& know God is in control,for sure.remember 1 thing Jesus said,"If anyone tells He is Here,or He is in the dessert believe them not",(because,EVERY eye shall see The Christ.,so if you find out any other way than your own eyes,it's not Christ.Yeah God is saying you tell your tales,& cover my(God's) out stretched arms,you teah them too fly(rapture) & He is AGAINST that teaching.
@k0smon Look at the pattern of a Jewish wedding feast. the bridegroom..comes unannounced...and then the bride and groom spend a week in their wedding chambers- then come out....(7days=7yrs---while earth is experiencing Tribulation....we'll be with the bridegroom!....) Later we all return with Jesus and set up the Millennium reign of Jesus--finally the Great Judgment.
@lookingup82 ::: Contemplating this may make Christians hopeful, but they will all be disappointed when it does not come to pass, as Harold Camping found out. Look at the uncertainty found in the bible: pre or post tribulation. If this is God's word, why isn't it plain and clear and accurate? Maybe because it is not God's word and is full of contradiction and error (Bart Ehrman).
God says His Church, His children will go thru tribulation, He will protect them even thru the 7 last plagues. No one leaves earth till Christ shows up, believers go back to Heaven with Christ for 1000, while the wicked die awaiting the end of the 1000 yrs when they will be resurected to receive final punishment. And others are pretty much wasting time trying to get ppl to believe otherwise.
In Revelation, 1 verse 9 John said he is a companion in tribulation. So don't u think as the angel gave him the visions to write this book he was about to see the beginning of Tribulation? The first verse says God gave Jesus this revelation to show to the servants the things which must shortly come to pass. So that means it started in the time it was written. Now we are closer than ever to the end of tribulation and will not get caught up in the air unless u wanna join Satan's FAKE RAPTURE.
Rapture= 6th trumpet fake jesus(Satan)...He's gonna get all the decieved tares..the bad wheat that looks good til it's picked :(..God Bless pray on it.
@FAITHandLOGIC I hate to say this but there have been 3 raptures Enoch,Elijah,and Jesus,we are going on number 4.What you say hasn't happened already has,look at Genesis 5 verses 18-24,Hebrews 11 verse 5,2 Kings 2 verses 11-12.There were 500 witnesses saw Jesus go up,Acts 1 verses 9-11.
@FAITHandLOGIC right... the only ones who will be removed are the wicked (seed plucked up from its roots). Why do people really believe they even have the right to be raptured if Jesus really was pulling his seed away. Is there anyone who can say "I walk like Jesus and there's no judgement upon me" Come on people please open ya mind and realize that the beast system been deceiving the world since the past. look at "Bibleortraditions" channel. God is speaking thru this guy.
This is what I see in the scriptures. Christ returns as He said, "after the tribulation of those days.." He returns to set up His kingdom, which is EVERLASTING! Christ returns to earth, and remains on earth. Jesus said, "..where I AM, there YE [believers] MAY BE ALSO. The only thing I see, even resembling a "rapture", is the gathering together of the saints to be with the Lord. Believers will be protected unto the coming of the Lord, we have God's WORD on it! God bless
@sidrojoe you're right no rapture,& His "saints" are called the ELECT,they stood against Satan in the first earth age,& shall again,when he is kicked outta heaven,REV.12:6,7.he comes claiming to be Christ,but he's"anti-christ"...ANTI=instead of-christ.God be with you.
No rapture, we remain on THIS earth. No eternal torment, either; a Satanic doctrine if I ever heard one. Yahaveh has the emotions of a vicious, petty 15 year old girl? That's blasphemous. That might be your tiny god, ie, satan, the false christ, who will be thrown into the CONSUMING fire, as well. Go ahead with your false christ bull. If you're thrown in the fire, you're finished, poof, the death sentence, up in a puff of smoke, you're gone, not eternal torment.
For I know that the Rapture is so close right now -- I believe that it will occur in 2011 because of the figures I have taken from the Bible--- Israel became a Nation in 1948 & if you add 70 years - you get 2018 & then subtract 7 years for the Anti-Christ you get 2011. Watch out for next year!
PRE-TRIB cRapture =FALSE DOCTRINE. TRUE Christ comes @ 777 (7th or LAST Seal/Trump/Vial out!); the ANTI-C comes 1stly b4 @ 666 (6th Seal/Trump/Vial) CLAIM'G TO BE CHRIST RETURNED TO "FLY" HIS henchlings out 1st (end of Ez 13)! = KJV MATT 24, MARK 13, LU 21 (all CHRISTS OWN WORDS, HARD TO DISPUTE THERE!), & 2 THESS 2 - READ IT FOR YOURSELVES & stop parroting what some other self-proclaimed Scripture lawyer "proclaims!" (remember, the serpent/wicked one/abom of desolator =top Scripture "lawyer!")
@ballistix01 Christianity seems to be a very simple religion. God is modelled after a medival king - get down on ur knees, beg for mercy if pleased he will let u stay in his pleasure palace, displease him & it's the torture chamber for u. Ur character doesn't matter, only how well u can grovel, so leave ur principles & values at the door.
@ramaraksha01: well, if that's your opinion & interpretation of the Father, then i can understand why you think it's all ridiculous. God is no carnal, flesh-man medieval king, nor does he require that kind of begging; u r applying "levels" & actions, thoughts of (certain-) men to He, which is not appropriate. He is not a tyrant altho if that's what you erringly wish to model your interpretation of Him after, then so be it. No harm intended by me, no harm done. Best wishes.
@ballistix01 U disagree with me yet u don't say how he differs. I didn't say God is a flesh-man medieval king, what i said was - the christian version of God was modelled after a medeival king. Lots of similarities don't u think? Makes u afraid that all the bible stuff is just some human's imagination? Come on, haven't u read history? u didn't know that the bible was put together? Prior religions had people with jesus like stories?
The True children of God r to stay in the field (world) working against the false messiah & he & HIS children's deception at the end, claimg to be the True Christ @666 when he is NOT, but is satan!Christ returns AFT @777 or last trump/vial out!Matt 24,Mark 13,Lu 21 (Yahshuah/Jesus' own Words!) all prove this & 2 Thess 2 does also!READ YOUR OWN BIBLES PPL & STOP LISTENG TO FALSEHOODS (traditions) OF "MEN"(no gender) THAT'VE CREPT LIKE SERPENT INTO "CHURCHIANITY!"
Cont'd: 1 Thess 4: the word-"Clouds"=as Paul would st8 elsewhere in Scripture, we run the race as in a cloud or CROWD,GROUP,MASSES (NOT literal atmosphere clouds nor "air"!) of God's true children, NOT those taken by the false Christ who comes 1st CLAIM'G to be true christ (but is NOT) come to "rapture" his ppl/"church"-of satan!) @ 666 (6th Seal/Trump?Vial b4 True Christ comes @ 777 (LAS or furtherest trump OUT).Ez 13 KJV has God st8g LONG AGO He h8s those who teach His ppl to fly 1st b4 Trib
1 Thess 4, subj (v13) refers to those who have already passed on hav alrdy been transitioned to their spiritual bodies & r w/ God, & cant precede ("prevent") those still on earth in flesh, & these same will He bring w/ Him as His "army" when He returns @ last (7th) Seal/Trump/Vial (or "777").This concerns where the already died are (w/ Him) & will return w/ Him.Air=ruwach/spirit body,same=Gen where God breathed into adam his Spirit Breath of Life or the Holy Spirit),NOT literal atmosphere,clouds
Pre-trib fly-away=false doctrine of the serpent in the last days.Christs own Words in MATT 24,MARK 13,LU 21,2 THESS 2 (2nd letter written to Thessl'ns warning them about misunderstandg the 1st by Paul!) all state very clearly that Trib & anti-C comes falsely claimg 2 b christ come to fly @666(6th Seal,Trump,Vial) B4 True Christ (@777-S,T,V or last trump/vial out).The worker in the field taken=taken by ANTI-C & deception of end times!True C returns @"777" AFT anti-c's trib @"666"-STR8 fr the KJV
When Christ comes for those left in tribulation, the 'church' has already gone, crowned Him King, then He will open the scroll and 7 seals thus beginning tribulation. The tribulation is for the salvation of the Jews, one needs to understand the two different ways God deals with both the church and Israel. Israel is the focus of God during tribulation, the church, currently under mercy, but at the rapture, that age is finished, and His love for Israel will save them as well.
Those who remain and will be alive through the tribulation will only be the 144,000 virgin jews Red Rev 14; Rev 7...which is why they received a special seal before the opening of the 7 trumpets... Only these Jews received special seals to remain through the tribulation.... The 7 trumpets are not the 7 vials of judgement...ASK The LORD to Open YOUR understandinf about REVELATIONS and not you trying to figure it out by yourself
Go Study Scripture about the RAPTURE - The Rapture occurs at the 2nd Coming of Christ as Christ is in the AIR!!!! IIThess 4:15, 16, 17 the first resurrection of saints precedes the rapture....
Like kids dreaming of majic & fairy tales. Miracles, prophecies are for the weak, cowardly & lazy. Unable to face upto the world's problems they look for a santa to bail them out. I am Hindu & we say whether we make this earth a Heaven or Hell is upto us, not God. God is a Teacher, only there to instruct & encourage but will not interfere.
@ramaraksha01: u r partially right.Miracles DO happen,but world @ large's not look'g to see them & usually wont.Gods children see them,& more oft than u think.God=not a "santa" to excuse indy behavior.Yes He told we to go forth & subdue/tend earth properly,but do we as WHOLE?No.He indeed=teacher,but He will also interfere if it suits His will/plan/purpose & in defense/protectn of His Elect.Theres a negative part of His plan He ALLOWS by wicked 1 & wicked ppls,so that none perish but turn 2 Him
@ballistix01 i think u have me confused with someone else - i don't believe in miracles nor prophecies or curses etc. I think those are the thoughts of the weak & cowardly. The earth is ours to make it a heaven or hell - God will not interfere. We have to do the hard work not expect some magic miracle.
prphecies were made that jesus would be born in Bethlehem, would be crucified and raised on the third day. these prophecies came true: prophecies are real. The Virgin gave birth without having known a man: miracles are real as well. Please come back to Him. God bless.
@munku121 Is that what u teach ur children? to believe in miracles, magic? Or to make themselves successful thru hard work, patience, struggle & sacrifice? I don't want to leave my principles & ethics at God's door. U r saying ur religion doesn't reflect ur morals & principles. Sorry mine does - for Hindus everything is EARNED, nothing given nor begged for. Moksha is EARNED, Repentance is EARNED. Do the right thing. Could be a too tough faith for you.
@munku121 Whether the earth will be a heaven or hell is upto us. We Hindus die, we come right back in another life. If the earth is a hell, we Hindus are ready to fight our way out. If it's a heaven, it will be because off our blood, sweat & hard work, not because some tooth fairy handed it to us. One day man will travel to the stars&we HIndus can proudly say we did it. U are welcom to sit in heaven&watch. Frankly we think God has better things to do than keep billions fed & clothed for eternity
@ballistix01 As for wicked can u define that? Put a hook thru a dog's jaw & drag it around, would that be a wicked person? Do that to a fish & it's fun for the whole family? Our perception of what is wrong & right is very limited & selfish. No baby is born evil - society, family usually turn a baby wicked - it is reported that most pedophiles themselves have been victimized when they were children.
@ballistix01 A theocracy you mean? We get down on our knees & better obey or else? U keep saying wicked how about just having an opinion? Say i think gays are good people. or abortion is a good thing. Torture me for it? Leave my principles & ethics at ur God's door for this is no democracy. We tried theocracy before & didn't much care for it.
Israel rejected "Christ" "The only acceptable sacrifice, God will "never"bend to Israel's rejection; temple sacrifices will never be acceptable "ever". Dan.9 24-27 Jerusalem rebuilt in troublesome times Neh4:16 "unto" Messiah, which was cut off (crucified) the (new) covenant confirmed for 1 week (a generation) in that generation sacrifices/oblations ceased, Jerusalem destroyed by prince (Cesar), flood makes it desolate til end (days) overspreading of temple is til Christ consumes/bound devil, EZ
These are some of the OC Prophecies I teach as Foundation Scriptures for the Harpazo?
Because of Isaiah 26:17-21 and how this relates to discoveries of definitions of words I have found in Rev 12:1-5!
Rev 12:5 & Rev 2:26-27 Reveal How the Man Child and Overcomers Are Related?Which gives a Revelation of the Rapture thru the Words Nations, Rule,& Rod of Iron?
Also, in Rev 12:3 No Crowns are on the 10 Horns? In Rev 13:1 Crowns are on the Horns?
I believe these Scriptures In Isaiah 26 are Related to the Woman and Man Child of Revelation 12?
In Isaiah 26:17 He teaches Us,Like as a woman with child, draws near to the time of her delivery, is in pain, and cries out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.(Israel?)
Isaiah 26:18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought ANY deliverance in the Earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen. Continues;-)
I Understood this "Man Child,"could be the Body of Christ when I read, In Rev 12:5This Man Child was,"to Rule All Nations with a Rod of Iron!"
I remembered I had read something about a Promise to the Over comers in
Rev 2:26-27 "And he that Overcomes and Does my Works unto the End, to him will I give Power over the Nations: And he shall Rule them with a Rod of Iron;as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers:EVEN as I Received of My Father."
Additionally, I perceive the Catching Away of the Body of Christ in Rev12:5, because of the definitions of the Greek words!
The word "Child,"means a SON, used to Describe those who are Born Again (Luke 20:36) and Sons and Daughters who Resemble God in Life and Character!
All of these concepts relate to Members of the Body of Christ?
These verses prove this "Man Child" is the Body of Christ and will be "Caught Up," To God's Throne, Before the Remnant of Israel is Protected, for 42 Months?
These are not absolute revelations. I practice submitting my revelations from Scripture and Word Studies to my Pastor, other Elders in the Body of Christ and my close Brothers and Sisters.
I would be edified if you share your evaluations of these concepts revealed to me.
When I study the Word I pray and ask the Spirit of God to Guide me into All Truth in the Subject I am studying. As we are growing together I always consider the opinions of those who are a part of the Body of Messiah. ;-)
The TIME is at hand. Get your spiritual houses in order. There's no time left for dreaming of a future here on Earth or trusting in the weak Jesus presented by the churches (God loves everyone, just "accept Jesus"). Every person left for Judgment Day will experience a terrible end to their God-given life here. Some may survive until October 21, 2011, when the entire cosmos will be consumed by fire so intense that the very elements will melt.
MAY 21, 2011 - WORLDWIDE EARTHQUAKE MAY 21, 2011 - THE RAPTURE MAY 21, 2011 - JUDGMENT DAY OCT, 21, 2011 - END OF WORLD 7 Billion - World Population (most will perish) 2 Billion - Christians (so called) - (most perish) 2 Hundred Million - Saved (Raptured) Rev 9 Left Behind - All members of Churches & local Congregations who refused GODS command come out of her my people Rev 17-18 05/21/11 to 10/21/11 - Judgment day - 153 Days (5 Months) of Hell on Earth - No Hope
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When Jesus come the good go and the evil dies, Satan is left here with only his lies, after a 1000 years the new city comes down and the king of king puts his feet on the ground, The evil are awaken from the 1000 year nap just to find out just where they are at. Judgment does not look to good for them you see, they all disappointed when they drop to there knee. With one last cry for the father of lies they all rush for the city and then they are fried.
2Thessalonians 2:6-8 "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:only he who no letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom teh Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming"
Nothing like intentionally omitting many verses that contradict your distorted lie of the subject. Course if we didn't have you RAPTUREites then the word wouldn't be true that Warns us of your fasle doctrines you fabricate, now would we???
TheGodluvs: There is violence in heaven. If you read the book of Revelation (Chapter 12) it says: "And there was war in heaven". The heavens and earth which are now are sin stained and will be renewed at the end of this age. See Isaiah 65.17, 2Pet 3.13, Rev 21.1, etc.
@TheGodluvs A God who acts like a despot like saddam? Kowtow to him, down on your knees, cowering in fear, beg & grovel for his mercy or else? A god so vain? God Rama embraces ALL GOOD SOULS. Rama is no torturer, he doesn't run a Hell. Karma & Rebirth is the better, non-violent way. No one is tortured nor do they simply get away with it.
Go read the Bible before you watch commentaries on the Bible. See for yourself what "sound doctrine" is. An agent looking for counterfeit dollar bill learns to recognize the fakes by studying the real thing. Read the Bible, which is God's word. Get it straight from His mouth.
yep! While Noah and his family were well and dry and snug in the ark, the world was covered with waters and all others perished! Plus Lot too was removed from Sodom before Sodom was destroyed and God even changed His mind and did not destroy one of the Cities of the Plain just because Lot wanted to go there!
U will never get it. 2 good men live a life do what is good and then die. Both are regarded with love and respect. One difference tho. If a one man is a christian he goes to heaven forgiven of every sinful thought word and deed. theother takes his sins to hell with him. Either way the christian does not lose, but the atheist loses everything.
Rapture? Your god has not had a single success yet. He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And ALL of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a few thousand buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you are banking that THIS time, this one last time, God is gonna hit the ball out of the park for you? Good luck with that!
"Jesus was not perfect, he was able to be tempted, even though he never gave into temptation."
Sin is an action, not a suggestion. If it is a sin to be tempted, then Adam and Eve would have been imperfect even if they had rejected the serpent's offer. They were only guilty of sin when they actually ate the fruit, not before.
Akkafietje: The reason for the tribulation is to separate the wheat form the chaff. The tribulation is not God's wrath on the earth, it is satan's wrath against the Christians. It is a 7-year gauntlet of learning to walk by FAITH and not by SIGHT. The wrath of God is what is poured out on the earth after we are transfigured, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days", "at the last trump". Watch therefore, that that day come not upon you as a thief in the night, is what I will be doing.
it seems its more god's hell and devil even GOD/DOG DEVIL//LIVED IF U DONT BELEAVE IN GOD THEN IT CART HURT U ATHEIST AND UNBELEAVES ARE SAFE PLUS THIS REALITY IS JUST A GAME SO NON-OF IT IS TRULY REAL ANY WAY
I beg to differ...once you've encountered deliverance from evil in your own life I think you could understand....It is more real than you know my friend.
i can lol big,, i just bet you will not like the second so called coming ... a little lie is easer to beleave than the so called truth . truth is there is No truth in reality becoze is a lie when u die u wake up in the real world and then realize u were living a lie and beleaveing a lie Iam the ultimate atheist and the ultimate unbeleaver so i dont beleave any god crap or any other they are just all lies to keep u all in so called fear
you are absolutely right about the pre-trib-rapture - God would never leace his children in this desaster, he did not with henoch, neither with Noah and so on - he always saved his people before the desaster, not afterwards....people read the bible the correct way....it does not make sense to rapture the people in the end of the tribulation -
Your god has not had a single success yet. He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And ALL of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a few thousand buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you are banking that THIS time, this one last time, God is gonna hit the ball out of the park for you? Good luck with that!
the rapture is joy of the coming Christ.God has always warned the people before destruction and allowed a way out if they took precaution to his warning. like lot and noah. now tribulation is coming and he has warned us. if we are ready and looking for Christ we will escape
He did not provide a way out, He provided a way THROUGH. There is not one single example in Bible events or the rest of the world's history where even one believer was taken out of trials and tribulation. On the contrary- we see countless examples recorded where God's people are brought THROUGH an event. Only one person besides Jesus ever left the surface of the earth, and that was Elijah. He wasn't taken/removed because or tribulation, either. We are given warnings and told where to go to live.
i certainly agree with you on part. christians face tribulation all the time daily. and God takes us through it but there is a specific tribulation coming in which the antichrist will rule. the bible says there is a time of the gentiles to be finished and then the jews will once again be the witnesses of the truth. 144,000 reserved with protection during tribulation. the 490 year prophecy of daniel is not fulfilled. 483 years until Christ was cut off and then 7 years of tribulation finish it.
I agree. Many Christians believe Rapture at end Trib but I believe otherwise. 2 Thess 2 says Body of Christ IS the restrainer of Antichrist. If Body of Christ stays through entire Tribulation, how come Antichrist is revealed by mid Trib? The Church (Body of Christ) and the Antichrist CANNOT BE on earth at same time!
Otherwise, "since" Church is not the restrainer, how come the Antichrist has not been revealed yet? Don't you think evil men would love just that??? ;-)
The secret rapture doctrine along with the 2-staged coming of Christ ( one in secret, one in public) is a false doctrine infiltrated by the Jesuits and ordered by the catholic papacy. see it for yourself in this youtube link watch?v=J-bT56dZzGs you'll be in for a surprise as to how long the tentacles of the CC has reached into the Christian church. The Jesuits purpose is to destroy the true Church of God and this is one of their many ways. It is time to wake up and be true witnesses of Chirst.
According to this theory, the Church should not be looking for the blessed hope of the return of Christ, but rather to the appearance of the Antichrist and the indescribable judgments and horrors of the Tribulation period.
i dunno if i believe in a rapture either...its kinda like a catholics pergatory...its all make belief for man to feel better because hes lead a life of sin...it doesnt say anything about a rapture in the bible...i will check to see...
there is a lot about the rapture in the Bible, each gospel, corinthians, thesalonians, revelations. It is meant to encourage Christians who are suffering. It gives them hope. They will be raptured after the 1260 day tribulation but before the 75 days of wrath which are reserved for the nations.
heb 11 :5 enoch waz translated means to be caught up 2 thess:6,7 christians will not be here durning the tributlation peroid. itz mainly for the jewish people dan.9:24-27
I agree, Scripture says that at the last trump we will be resurreced, the dead and the living. The last trump depicts the return of Christ to the earth we are still here. This is a false doctrine. We should be prepared for these times, He will bring us through the Tribulation.People tend to put the word "The" infront of Great Tribulation. Read, the word "The" is not present. God Bless you and hold to the truth my brother/sister
No pre-trib rapture, the resurrection happens at the last trump, 1st cor. 15:51 proves it, the same last trump is over looked in 1st thess. 14:12-17, judgment day is in heaven where the throne is, and the first resurrection which consist of the faithful and beheaded reign with christ in heaven for a 1000 years which is only one day on earth read last page of 2nd Peter, christ only reigns when there is new earth, because christ only comes back 1ce, and no flesh will be saved upon his return.
Apparently from this BOGUS "let's scare all the people into giving MORe MONEY TO OUT CHURCHES"This type pf propaganda serves teh churche big time. Then again.. the leaders of these scams..errr I MEAN CHURCHES>. know all to well that putting fear in people will keep most of them in CHECK. WHata bunch of bullshit
The Resurrection doesn't take place until the end of the age at the last day. Daniel 12:8-12 end of days resurrection. Also look at John 11:23-25 Last day resurrection. Martha was not told that she was wrong about her thinking about when the resurrection would take place. But she was pointed to the ONE who is the Resurrection. So the resurrection of the believers takes place at the end of the age.
There is No Christian gate to enter into Heaven. There are 12 gates named after the twelve tribes of Israel. Israel is the bride. If the church is raptured then why does Yahshua pray to His Father asking Him not to take out the Believers in John 17:15????????
False Doctrine - there is no rapture. Was Noah & his family ratured? - No they weren't. The wicked were taken out. The Messiah's name is not a Greek name(Jesus) He was from the Tribe of Judah, His name is Yahshua, He said He came in His Father's Name. Yahshua means Yah's Salvation. The Father's Name is YAHWEH. You are being decieved.
Heenaynee all true what you said exception that the Rapture is a false Doctrine. 1st Th 5:9 says. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. We will meet Yahshua in the air.
secondly Heenaynee the Rapture is not a false doctrine. 1st Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The question I have is when 1st Thes 4:17 says "then which we are alive and remain". Remain from what?. I take that as remaining after great tribulation. Anyone have any thoughts on this?.
Apparently from this BOGUS "let's scare all the people into giving MORe MONEY TO OUT CHURCHES"This type pf propaganda serves teh churche big time. Then again.. the leaders of these scams..errr I MEAN CHURCHES>. know all to well that putting fear in people will keep most of them in CHECK. WHata bunch of bullshit
alien6crowe, is it REALLY what you are thinking within the deepest of your heart and spirit?!?
No, it's not bullshit!!!
I understand your fear, having for source MANY black sheeps... But we are warned by the Bible of this fact, so: why are you so disgusted?!? There is nothing we can do to avoid such errors, apart praying to don't be ourselves more or less dark...
Thus, you watched this video, which means that you are searching where is the light... It's Jesus, the light!!! Repent your sins!
Im sorry, no pre-trib rapture, the tares are pulled up BEFORE the wheat. Matt 13:30 13:50
spekgirl1 5 months ago
RAPTURE IS A FALSE TEACHING,DO NOT FOLLOW THE "WRONG CHRIST"(ANTI)THINKING HE'S THE REAL CHRIST.SATAN COMES B4 CHRIST,NO RAPTURE!!! NOT ARGUING,IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
toonful 7 months ago
@toonful ::: There is a rapture! No, there is only a second coming! We will be spared. No, we have to suffer thru the tribulation. And why this discrepancy? Because we go to the bible for the answers, but find confusion instead. Since God is not the author of confusion, neither is He the author of that book we call the bible. All who prophesy from the bible will have the Harold Camping experience, failure assured.
k0smon 7 months ago
@k0smon are you saying a rapture is true? it's not...Camping is using "traditions of man" NOT the TRUE WORD OF GOD,are you saying the Bible isn't the TRUTH??? if so,i'm done with you,& what you think,cause I get that you're just some nutt that "thinks they know EVERYTHING,& really know NOTHING,just like that nutt Camping.
toonful 7 months ago
@k0smon no matter where anyone gets these ideas,they're just going on what they been taught all their life(TRADITIONS OF MAN)...not the TRUTH.
toonful 7 months ago
@toonful ::: Where have you found this TRUTH, and how do you know it is the TRUTH in fact?
k0smon 7 months ago
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toonful 7 months ago
@toonful :::Pillows, armholes, kerchiefs? Your use of profanity makes you sound like a 16 year old.
k0smon 7 months ago
@k0smon we'll see in the end,& know God is in control,for sure.remember 1 thing Jesus said,"If anyone tells He is Here,or He is in the dessert believe them not",(because,EVERY eye shall see The Christ.,so if you find out any other way than your own eyes,it's not Christ.Yeah God is saying you tell your tales,& cover my(God's) out stretched arms,you teah them too fly(rapture) & He is AGAINST that teaching.
toonful 7 months ago
@k0smon Look at the pattern of a Jewish wedding feast. the bridegroom..comes unannounced...and then the bride and groom spend a week in their wedding chambers- then come out....(7days=7yrs---while earth is experiencing Tribulation....we'll be with the bridegroom!....) Later we all return with Jesus and set up the Millennium reign of Jesus--finally the Great Judgment.
lookingup82 4 months ago
@lookingup82 ::: Contemplating this may make Christians hopeful, but they will all be disappointed when it does not come to pass, as Harold Camping found out. Look at the uncertainty found in the bible: pre or post tribulation. If this is God's word, why isn't it plain and clear and accurate? Maybe because it is not God's word and is full of contradiction and error (Bart Ehrman).
k0smon 4 months ago
There is no rapture, and heck I'm christian. (wink wink at the atheists...Postribulationism, if you know what I mean).
Nashhinton 9 months ago
This is pathetic... This is a mockery to science and logic everywhere
dianambowman 9 months ago
God says His Church, His children will go thru tribulation, He will protect them even thru the 7 last plagues. No one leaves earth till Christ shows up, believers go back to Heaven with Christ for 1000, while the wicked die awaiting the end of the 1000 yrs when they will be resurected to receive final punishment. And others are pretty much wasting time trying to get ppl to believe otherwise.
atamotua64 10 months ago
In Revelation, 1 verse 9 John said he is a companion in tribulation. So don't u think as the angel gave him the visions to write this book he was about to see the beginning of Tribulation? The first verse says God gave Jesus this revelation to show to the servants the things which must shortly come to pass. So that means it started in the time it was written. Now we are closer than ever to the end of tribulation and will not get caught up in the air unless u wanna join Satan's FAKE RAPTURE.
ReelSpotliteTV 10 months ago
According to this video there are two raptures. Well that is rediculous..id love to know how the narrater of this video came up with that theory???
delitemyheart 11 months ago
This is ridiculous! The bible is a fucking book ,for fuck sakes! Do you believe in marvel comics? haha
xjohnny760x 1 year ago
Rapture= 6th trumpet fake jesus(Satan)...He's gonna get all the decieved tares..the bad wheat that looks good til it's picked :(..God Bless pray on it.
hawkinsd 1 year ago
THERE IS NO RAPTURE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
FAITHandLOGIC 1 year ago
@FAITHandLOGIC I hate to say this but there have been 3 raptures Enoch,Elijah,and Jesus,we are going on number 4.What you say hasn't happened already has,look at Genesis 5 verses 18-24,Hebrews 11 verse 5,2 Kings 2 verses 11-12.There were 500 witnesses saw Jesus go up,Acts 1 verses 9-11.
m97018 1 year ago
@FAITHandLOGIC right... the only ones who will be removed are the wicked (seed plucked up from its roots). Why do people really believe they even have the right to be raptured if Jesus really was pulling his seed away. Is there anyone who can say "I walk like Jesus and there's no judgement upon me" Come on people please open ya mind and realize that the beast system been deceiving the world since the past. look at "Bibleortraditions" channel. God is speaking thru this guy.
ReelSpotliteTV 10 months ago
@FAITHandLOGIC
This is what I see in the scriptures. Christ returns as He said, "after the tribulation of those days.." He returns to set up His kingdom, which is EVERLASTING! Christ returns to earth, and remains on earth. Jesus said, "..where I AM, there YE [believers] MAY BE ALSO. The only thing I see, even resembling a "rapture", is the gathering together of the saints to be with the Lord. Believers will be protected unto the coming of the Lord, we have God's WORD on it! God bless
sidrojoe 9 months ago
@sidrojoe you're right no rapture,& His "saints" are called the ELECT,they stood against Satan in the first earth age,& shall again,when he is kicked outta heaven,REV.12:6,7.he comes claiming to be Christ,but he's"anti-christ"...ANTI=instead of-christ.God be with you.
toonful 7 months ago
No rapture, we remain on THIS earth. No eternal torment, either; a Satanic doctrine if I ever heard one. Yahaveh has the emotions of a vicious, petty 15 year old girl? That's blasphemous. That might be your tiny god, ie, satan, the false christ, who will be thrown into the CONSUMING fire, as well. Go ahead with your false christ bull. If you're thrown in the fire, you're finished, poof, the death sentence, up in a puff of smoke, you're gone, not eternal torment.
nachodaddy 1 year ago
For I know that the Rapture is so close right now -- I believe that it will occur in 2011 because of the figures I have taken from the Bible--- Israel became a Nation in 1948 & if you add 70 years - you get 2018 & then subtract 7 years for the Anti-Christ you get 2011. Watch out for next year!
luap123311 1 year ago
PRE-TRIB cRapture =FALSE DOCTRINE. TRUE Christ comes @ 777 (7th or LAST Seal/Trump/Vial out!); the ANTI-C comes 1stly b4 @ 666 (6th Seal/Trump/Vial) CLAIM'G TO BE CHRIST RETURNED TO "FLY" HIS henchlings out 1st (end of Ez 13)! = KJV MATT 24, MARK 13, LU 21 (all CHRISTS OWN WORDS, HARD TO DISPUTE THERE!), & 2 THESS 2 - READ IT FOR YOURSELVES & stop parroting what some other self-proclaimed Scripture lawyer "proclaims!" (remember, the serpent/wicked one/abom of desolator =top Scripture "lawyer!")
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 Christianity seems to be a very simple religion. God is modelled after a medival king - get down on ur knees, beg for mercy if pleased he will let u stay in his pleasure palace, displease him & it's the torture chamber for u. Ur character doesn't matter, only how well u can grovel, so leave ur principles & values at the door.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01: well, if that's your opinion & interpretation of the Father, then i can understand why you think it's all ridiculous. God is no carnal, flesh-man medieval king, nor does he require that kind of begging; u r applying "levels" & actions, thoughts of (certain-) men to He, which is not appropriate. He is not a tyrant altho if that's what you erringly wish to model your interpretation of Him after, then so be it. No harm intended by me, no harm done. Best wishes.
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 U disagree with me yet u don't say how he differs. I didn't say God is a flesh-man medieval king, what i said was - the christian version of God was modelled after a medeival king. Lots of similarities don't u think? Makes u afraid that all the bible stuff is just some human's imagination? Come on, haven't u read history? u didn't know that the bible was put together? Prior religions had people with jesus like stories?
God is Truth & Truth is God. Face the Truth.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
The True children of God r to stay in the field (world) working against the false messiah & he & HIS children's deception at the end, claimg to be the True Christ @666 when he is NOT, but is satan!Christ returns AFT @777 or last trump/vial out!Matt 24,Mark 13,Lu 21 (Yahshuah/Jesus' own Words!) all prove this & 2 Thess 2 does also!READ YOUR OWN BIBLES PPL & STOP LISTENG TO FALSEHOODS (traditions) OF "MEN"(no gender) THAT'VE CREPT LIKE SERPENT INTO "CHURCHIANITY!"
ballistix01 1 year ago
Cont'd: 1 Thess 4: the word-"Clouds"=as Paul would st8 elsewhere in Scripture, we run the race as in a cloud or CROWD,GROUP,MASSES (NOT literal atmosphere clouds nor "air"!) of God's true children, NOT those taken by the false Christ who comes 1st CLAIM'G to be true christ (but is NOT) come to "rapture" his ppl/"church"-of satan!) @ 666 (6th Seal/Trump?Vial b4 True Christ comes @ 777 (LAS or furtherest trump OUT).Ez 13 KJV has God st8g LONG AGO He h8s those who teach His ppl to fly 1st b4 Trib
ballistix01 1 year ago
1 Thess 4, subj (v13) refers to those who have already passed on hav alrdy been transitioned to their spiritual bodies & r w/ God, & cant precede ("prevent") those still on earth in flesh, & these same will He bring w/ Him as His "army" when He returns @ last (7th) Seal/Trump/Vial (or "777").This concerns where the already died are (w/ Him) & will return w/ Him.Air=ruwach/spirit body,same=Gen where God breathed into adam his Spirit Breath of Life or the Holy Spirit),NOT literal atmosphere,clouds
ballistix01 1 year ago
Pre-trib fly-away=false doctrine of the serpent in the last days.Christs own Words in MATT 24,MARK 13,LU 21,2 THESS 2 (2nd letter written to Thessl'ns warning them about misunderstandg the 1st by Paul!) all state very clearly that Trib & anti-C comes falsely claimg 2 b christ come to fly @666(6th Seal,Trump,Vial) B4 True Christ (@777-S,T,V or last trump/vial out).The worker in the field taken=taken by ANTI-C & deception of end times!True C returns @"777" AFT anti-c's trib @"666"-STR8 fr the KJV
ballistix01 1 year ago
When Christ comes for those left in tribulation, the 'church' has already gone, crowned Him King, then He will open the scroll and 7 seals thus beginning tribulation. The tribulation is for the salvation of the Jews, one needs to understand the two different ways God deals with both the church and Israel. Israel is the focus of God during tribulation, the church, currently under mercy, but at the rapture, that age is finished, and His love for Israel will save them as well.
luettem 1 year ago
Bunch of delusional indoctrinated brainwashed FOOLS !
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint I don't get it
eddienickels1 1 year ago
@eddienickels1 Use a dictionary.
a1mint 1 year ago
@a1mint I was mocking you
eddienickels1 1 year ago
Those who remain and will be alive through the tribulation will only be the 144,000 virgin jews Red Rev 14; Rev 7...which is why they received a special seal before the opening of the 7 trumpets... Only these Jews received special seals to remain through the tribulation.... The 7 trumpets are not the 7 vials of judgement...ASK The LORD to Open YOUR understandinf about REVELATIONS and not you trying to figure it out by yourself
valentine091 1 year ago
Go Study Scripture about the RAPTURE - The Rapture occurs at the 2nd Coming of Christ as Christ is in the AIR!!!! IIThess 4:15, 16, 17 the first resurrection of saints precedes the rapture....
valentine091 1 year ago
Funny thing is, is that people actully belive this shit. lol.
phatfingersinc 1 year ago
false hope is easy to believe in
IamJohnTitor 1 year ago
Like kids dreaming of majic & fairy tales. Miracles, prophecies are for the weak, cowardly & lazy. Unable to face upto the world's problems they look for a santa to bail them out. I am Hindu & we say whether we make this earth a Heaven or Hell is upto us, not God. God is a Teacher, only there to instruct & encourage but will not interfere.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01: u r partially right.Miracles DO happen,but world @ large's not look'g to see them & usually wont.Gods children see them,& more oft than u think.God=not a "santa" to excuse indy behavior.Yes He told we to go forth & subdue/tend earth properly,but do we as WHOLE?No.He indeed=teacher,but He will also interfere if it suits His will/plan/purpose & in defense/protectn of His Elect.Theres a negative part of His plan He ALLOWS by wicked 1 & wicked ppls,so that none perish but turn 2 Him
ballistix01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 i think u have me confused with someone else - i don't believe in miracles nor prophecies or curses etc. I think those are the thoughts of the weak & cowardly. The earth is ours to make it a heaven or hell - God will not interfere. We have to do the hard work not expect some magic miracle.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
prphecies were made that jesus would be born in Bethlehem, would be crucified and raised on the third day. these prophecies came true: prophecies are real. The Virgin gave birth without having known a man: miracles are real as well. Please come back to Him. God bless.
munku121 1 year ago
@munku121 Is that what u teach ur children? to believe in miracles, magic? Or to make themselves successful thru hard work, patience, struggle & sacrifice? I don't want to leave my principles & ethics at God's door. U r saying ur religion doesn't reflect ur morals & principles. Sorry mine does - for Hindus everything is EARNED, nothing given nor begged for. Moksha is EARNED, Repentance is EARNED. Do the right thing. Could be a too tough faith for you.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@munku121 Whether the earth will be a heaven or hell is upto us. We Hindus die, we come right back in another life. If the earth is a hell, we Hindus are ready to fight our way out. If it's a heaven, it will be because off our blood, sweat & hard work, not because some tooth fairy handed it to us. One day man will travel to the stars&we HIndus can proudly say we did it. U are welcom to sit in heaven&watch. Frankly we think God has better things to do than keep billions fed & clothed for eternity
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 As for wicked can u define that? Put a hook thru a dog's jaw & drag it around, would that be a wicked person? Do that to a fish & it's fun for the whole family? Our perception of what is wrong & right is very limited & selfish. No baby is born evil - society, family usually turn a baby wicked - it is reported that most pedophiles themselves have been victimized when they were children.
Lastly, can u pleas stop the proselytization?
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ballistix01 A theocracy you mean? We get down on our knees & better obey or else? U keep saying wicked how about just having an opinion? Say i think gays are good people. or abortion is a good thing. Torture me for it? Leave my principles & ethics at ur God's door for this is no democracy. We tried theocracy before & didn't much care for it.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
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Israel rejected "Christ" "The only acceptable sacrifice, God will "never"bend to Israel's rejection; temple sacrifices will never be acceptable "ever". Dan.9 24-27 Jerusalem rebuilt in troublesome times Neh4:16 "unto" Messiah, which was cut off (crucified) the (new) covenant confirmed for 1 week (a generation) in that generation sacrifices/oblations ceased, Jerusalem destroyed by prince (Cesar), flood makes it desolate til end (days) overspreading of temple is til Christ consumes/bound devil, EZ
JoBernard12oxen 1 year ago
Saved from wrath but not from trouble. Amen.
TheProfessorEnglish 1 year ago
Did you know a Peace Treaty was signed by Israel and took Effect on January 1, 2007?
We are Already INSIDE a Seven Year Treaty, between Israel and a Rebuilt Roman Empire, led by One man, Javier Solana, who holds All the power?
Called the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership for Peace?
Israel was the First to Sign it which gives Economic Incentives,Peace and Safety!?
How much time do we really have?
You may want to watch this?
Watch?v=O_Kjk0oX94g&feature=quicklist&playnext=7&playnext_from=QL
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
@Diggers
These are some of the OC Prophecies I teach as Foundation Scriptures for the Harpazo?
Because of Isaiah 26:17-21 and how this relates to discoveries of definitions of words I have found in Rev 12:1-5!
Rev 12:5 & Rev 2:26-27 Reveal How the Man Child and Overcomers Are Related?Which gives a Revelation of the Rapture thru the Words Nations, Rule,& Rod of Iron?
Also, in Rev 12:3 No Crowns are on the 10 Horns? In Rev 13:1 Crowns are on the Horns?
Something Important happens in Rev 12?
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
I believe these Scriptures In Isaiah 26 are Related to the Woman and Man Child of Revelation 12?
In Isaiah 26:17 He teaches Us,Like as a woman with child, draws near to the time of her delivery, is in pain, and cries out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.(Israel?)
Isaiah 26:18 We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought ANY deliverance in the Earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen. Continues;-)
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
Isaiah 26:19 Your Dead men Shall ARISE! Awake and sing, you that DWELL in the DUST, the Earth SHALL CAST OUT The DEAD. Rapture?
Isaiah 26:20 COME, MY PEOPLE, enter into your chambers.... until the TRIBULATION be OVERPAST.
COME (H498) Hebrew means to depart or go away? Refers to Rapture because of Isaiah 26:19 and 20!?
This verse relates to the Second Advent in Rev 19!
Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD comes out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the Earth for their iniquity:
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
I Understood this "Man Child,"could be the Body of Christ when I read, In Rev 12:5This Man Child was,"to Rule All Nations with a Rod of Iron!"
I remembered I had read something about a Promise to the Over comers in
Rev 2:26-27 "And he that Overcomes and Does my Works unto the End, to him will I give Power over the Nations: And he shall Rule them with a Rod of Iron;as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers:EVEN as I Received of My Father."
The OverComers are the Man Child?
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
Additionally, I perceive the Catching Away of the Body of Christ in Rev12:5, because of the definitions of the Greek words!
The word "Child,"means a SON, used to Describe those who are Born Again (Luke 20:36) and Sons and Daughters who Resemble God in Life and Character!
All of these concepts relate to Members of the Body of Christ?
These verses prove this "Man Child" is the Body of Christ and will be "Caught Up," To God's Throne, Before the Remnant of Israel is Protected, for 42 Months?
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
These are not absolute revelations. I practice submitting my revelations from Scripture and Word Studies to my Pastor, other Elders in the Body of Christ and my close Brothers and Sisters.
I would be edified if you share your evaluations of these concepts revealed to me.
When I study the Word I pray and ask the Spirit of God to Guide me into All Truth in the Subject I am studying. As we are growing together I always consider the opinions of those who are a part of the Body of Messiah. ;-)
JesusFul100sProphec 1 year ago
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The TIME is at hand. Get your spiritual houses in order. There's no time left for dreaming of a future here on Earth or trusting in the weak Jesus presented by the churches (God loves everyone, just "accept Jesus"). Every person left for Judgment Day will experience a terrible end to their God-given life here. Some may survive until October 21, 2011, when the entire cosmos will be consumed by fire so intense that the very elements will melt.
dimstar4now 1 year ago
The rapture is plain childish nonsense.
lizazoon 1 year ago
quitelywait 1 year ago
@quitelywait Hogwash...
disciplesofthecross 1 year ago
quitelywait 1 year ago
lizazoon:
You're incorrect.
There must be something to it if it made you comment.
Even though your comments were misinformed and childish.
Camel76 1 year ago
The rapture is childish nonsense, misinterpretation, fantasy, speculation and pure BS.
lizazoon 1 year ago
When Jesus come the good go and the evil dies, Satan is left here with only his lies, after a 1000 years the new city comes down and the king of king puts his feet on the ground, The evil are awaken from the 1000 year nap just to find out just where they are at. Judgment does not look to good for them you see, they all disappointed when they drop to there knee. With one last cry for the father of lies they all rush for the city and then they are fried.
tegf4 2 years ago
What's funny is how Hilarious this crap looks. I honestly can't believe people believe this ludicrous fantasy.
Get an education.
ZombieRyushu 2 years ago
2Thessalonians 2:6-8 "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:only he who no letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom teh Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming"
MayHatter 2 years ago
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Dealing with people like the Pre-trib rapturites never yields any peaceable fruit to our spirit or souls.
their philosophy is pure smut!
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robwiley01 2 years ago
Ya, OhKaayyy!
The RAPTUREites heresy lives on!
Nothing like intentionally omitting many verses that contradict your distorted lie of the subject. Course if we didn't have you RAPTUREites then the word wouldn't be true that Warns us of your fasle doctrines you fabricate, now would we???
robwiley01 2 years ago
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SPLENOROUS 2 years ago
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SPLENOROUS 2 years ago
There is no violence in heaven. Do u guys ever read the word if God? An whatever we do is way better than burning in hell for eternity!
TheGodluvs 2 years ago 2
What are you talking about? Wh said there was vilence in heaven and what guys are you speaking about and who is going to hell-are yout talking about?
SPLENOROUS 2 years ago
TheGodluvs: There is violence in heaven. If you read the book of Revelation (Chapter 12) it says: "And there was war in heaven". The heavens and earth which are now are sin stained and will be renewed at the end of this age. See Isaiah 65.17, 2Pet 3.13, Rev 21.1, etc.
Kojow7 2 years ago
@TheGodluvs A God who acts like a despot like saddam? Kowtow to him, down on your knees, cowering in fear, beg & grovel for his mercy or else? A god so vain? God Rama embraces ALL GOOD SOULS. Rama is no torturer, he doesn't run a Hell. Karma & Rebirth is the better, non-violent way. No one is tortured nor do they simply get away with it.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@TheGodluvs How do you explain War in heaven then? "And there was war in Heaven...." Rev 12:7
AllanRasco 1 year ago
No one is being raptured. No one is going anywhere.
Go watch bibleortraditions videos on the rapture. It is not sound doctrine.
FAITHandLOGIC 2 years ago
Go read the Bible before you watch commentaries on the Bible. See for yourself what "sound doctrine" is. An agent looking for counterfeit dollar bill learns to recognize the fakes by studying the real thing. Read the Bible, which is God's word. Get it straight from His mouth.
AtarahDerek 2 years ago
I tell you what this is all one big fucked up game.
playmarto 2 years ago
yep! While Noah and his family were well and dry and snug in the ark, the world was covered with waters and all others perished! Plus Lot too was removed from Sodom before Sodom was destroyed and God even changed His mind and did not destroy one of the Cities of the Plain just because Lot wanted to go there!
Senteami 2 years ago
Gee whiz!
God rescued EIGHT drunken, incestuous people
when he killed all the humans on earth,
and he saved Lot and a couple of others
when he killed the city of Sodom.
With a record like that you should expect, what,
a dozen people to be saved in the rapture?
And you're convinced you will be one of them?
like I said,
good luck with that!
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
U will never get it. 2 good men live a life do what is good and then die. Both are regarded with love and respect. One difference tho. If a one man is a christian he goes to heaven forgiven of every sinful thought word and deed. theother takes his sins to hell with him. Either way the christian does not lose, but the atheist loses everything.
daphdong 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
lol imaginefree69, you're an ignorant fool. How exactly has God not had a single success yet?
1. Angels are not perfect... the bible says that we will judge the angels.
2. Humans WERE perfect before the fall when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
3. Jesus was not perfect, he was able to be tempted, even though he never gave into temptation.
4. Not all angels or people ended up tortured or dead... not sure where you get that from; Jesus did.
TheSmoonge 2 years ago
"you're an ignorant fool."
Smoonge, you are an ignorant mocker.
Not only do you prove my point with number 2,
you over look my "few thousand buddies"
when you get stuck on "all".
Although I admit it may be a few million buddies,
but still a very small percentage of the total.
If you had a swimming class in which 90% of the students drowned
that would be a colossal failure.
Just like your god.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Wrong "the Smoonge" Jesus was perfect!
desertdoggz 2 years ago
"Jesus was not perfect, he was able to be tempted, even though he never gave into temptation."
Sin is an action, not a suggestion. If it is a sin to be tempted, then Adam and Eve would have been imperfect even if they had rejected the serpent's offer. They were only guilty of sin when they actually ate the fruit, not before.
Jesus could be tempted and still be perfect.
AtarahDerek 2 years ago
Jesus was perfect which is why he was the one to die one the cross. He was without sin .Read the bible.
TheGodluvs 2 years ago 2
Especially Hebrews 3:14-5:10. It will explain Jesus' role as the Great High Priest, able to relate to us, even though He is perfect and we are not.
AtarahDerek 2 years ago
Taken from the wisest of the writers of God's Word. An excellent reminder.
YounaTuber 2 years ago
Akkafietje: The reason for the tribulation is to separate the wheat form the chaff. The tribulation is not God's wrath on the earth, it is satan's wrath against the Christians. It is a 7-year gauntlet of learning to walk by FAITH and not by SIGHT. The wrath of God is what is poured out on the earth after we are transfigured, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days", "at the last trump". Watch therefore, that that day come not upon you as a thief in the night, is what I will be doing.
YounaTuber 2 years ago
amen!
Matt. 13:24-30 & Matt. 25:1-13 do not teach pre-trib.
2 Thess. 5:4
But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief
Acts 14:22
"...encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God."
the Great Tribulation is NOT the wrath of God... Christians, please stop listening 2 the teachings of man and hear what the Word of God says
gogeta0064 2 years ago 2
Coz... Did you not understand that God himself is the creator of the Great tribulation.
It seems that you want to use your arms (Ef6:10) to fight against God.
Try to understand the difference between satan's persecution of the church during 2000 years, and the great tribulation.
Did you never wonder, what can be Gods reason for the great trib.?
akkafietje 2 years ago
it seems its more god's hell and devil even GOD/DOG DEVIL//LIVED IF U DONT BELEAVE IN GOD THEN IT CART HURT U ATHEIST AND UNBELEAVES ARE SAFE PLUS THIS REALITY IS JUST A GAME SO NON-OF IT IS TRULY REAL ANY WAY
ImTheRealJesusClone 2 years ago
I beg to differ...once you've encountered deliverance from evil in your own life I think you could understand....It is more real than you know my friend.
agape4umoe 2 years ago
i can lol big,, i just bet you will not like the second so called coming ... a little lie is easer to beleave than the so called truth . truth is there is No truth in reality becoze is a lie when u die u wake up in the real world and then realize u were living a lie and beleaveing a lie Iam the ultimate atheist and the ultimate unbeleaver so i dont beleave any god crap or any other they are just all lies to keep u all in so called fear
ImTheRealJesusClone 2 years ago
you are absolutely right about the pre-trib-rapture - God would never leace his children in this desaster, he did not with henoch, neither with Noah and so on - he always saved his people before the desaster, not afterwards....people read the bible the correct way....it does not make sense to rapture the people in the end of the tribulation -
SisterSylvie777 2 years ago
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Imaginefree69 3 years ago
does anyone who do these videos on the pre-trib rapture ever read the Bible anymore?
the Bible makes it so obvious that it's after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31)
the only way you get a pre-trib rapture is if you go into the Bible with that preconceived thought...
please read 2 Peter 1:20
gogeta0064 3 years ago
Amen! The bible is very clear, we will go thru the tribution period, READ MATTHEW 24.
zigzag1239 3 years ago
AMEN and HalleLUjah!
YounaTuber 2 years ago 2
the rapture is joy of the coming Christ.God has always warned the people before destruction and allowed a way out if they took precaution to his warning. like lot and noah. now tribulation is coming and he has warned us. if we are ready and looking for Christ we will escape
takeitgreezy 3 years ago
He did not provide a way out, He provided a way THROUGH. There is not one single example in Bible events or the rest of the world's history where even one believer was taken out of trials and tribulation. On the contrary- we see countless examples recorded where God's people are brought THROUGH an event. Only one person besides Jesus ever left the surface of the earth, and that was Elijah. He wasn't taken/removed because or tribulation, either. We are given warnings and told where to go to live.
YounaTuber 2 years ago
i certainly agree with you on part. christians face tribulation all the time daily. and God takes us through it but there is a specific tribulation coming in which the antichrist will rule. the bible says there is a time of the gentiles to be finished and then the jews will once again be the witnesses of the truth. 144,000 reserved with protection during tribulation. the 490 year prophecy of daniel is not fulfilled. 483 years until Christ was cut off and then 7 years of tribulation finish it.
takeitgreezy 2 years ago
I agree. Many Christians believe Rapture at end Trib but I believe otherwise. 2 Thess 2 says Body of Christ IS the restrainer of Antichrist. If Body of Christ stays through entire Tribulation, how come Antichrist is revealed by mid Trib? The Church (Body of Christ) and the Antichrist CANNOT BE on earth at same time!
Otherwise, "since" Church is not the restrainer, how come the Antichrist has not been revealed yet? Don't you think evil men would love just that??? ;-)
Senteami 2 years ago
May God have mercy on our ignorance.
My people are being destroyed for a lack of knowledge.
There were two, the other was Enoch and they will return to prophecy for 3.5 yrs or 1260 days or time and time and half then suffer death.
jehojireh 2 years ago
The secret rapture doctrine along with the 2-staged coming of Christ ( one in secret, one in public) is a false doctrine infiltrated by the Jesuits and ordered by the catholic papacy. see it for yourself in this youtube link watch?v=J-bT56dZzGs you'll be in for a surprise as to how long the tentacles of the CC has reached into the Christian church. The Jesuits purpose is to destroy the true Church of God and this is one of their many ways. It is time to wake up and be true witnesses of Chirst.
ymv1020 3 years ago
According to this theory, the Church should not be looking for the blessed hope of the return of Christ, but rather to the appearance of the Antichrist and the indescribable judgments and horrors of the Tribulation period.
Terri3210 3 years ago
i dunno if i believe in a rapture either...its kinda like a catholics pergatory...its all make belief for man to feel better because hes lead a life of sin...it doesnt say anything about a rapture in the bible...i will check to see...
vupadown 3 years ago
there is a lot about the rapture in the Bible, each gospel, corinthians, thesalonians, revelations. It is meant to encourage Christians who are suffering. It gives them hope. They will be raptured after the 1260 day tribulation but before the 75 days of wrath which are reserved for the nations.
drnhawkins 3 years ago
im sorry but the rapture is FALSE DOCTRINE.
You should take this deception down, then stop watching tv proFITS.
Isaiah 29:10
Isaiah 13 - Medes is IRAN & Babylon is america.
Proverbs 21 : 1 & Revelation 17 : 17
Romans 13 : 11
Read in order.
hiimwhiteboy 3 years ago
lol. rearrange scriptures to say anything you want. duh
johnfl46 3 years ago
exactly ask your so called pastor.
bring him on here, lets see whats he's got i guarantee id stop his lies.
Worshipping the sabbath on sunday eating pork chops passin the plate.
hmmmmmmmmm
hiimwhiteboy 3 years ago
heb 11 :5 enoch waz translated means to be caught up 2 thess:6,7 christians will not be here durning the tributlation peroid. itz mainly for the jewish people dan.9:24-27
Jamarion06 3 years ago
there is nothing like the rapture..there is no biblical truth to this....
Msbea345 3 years ago
their sure aint , the rapture is a 200 year old belief , prolly so ppl stumble when the trib hits and they still here.
Gutcheckcoming 3 years ago
I agree, Scripture says that at the last trump we will be resurreced, the dead and the living. The last trump depicts the return of Christ to the earth we are still here. This is a false doctrine. We should be prepared for these times, He will bring us through the Tribulation.People tend to put the word "The" infront of Great Tribulation. Read, the word "The" is not present. God Bless you and hold to the truth my brother/sister
MumzyTube 3 years ago 2
plz redo the recording, this time without doping urself prior to it.. thx..... the price for killing a subject with gastly boring voice goes to.....
aysikl 3 years ago
No pre-trib rapture, the resurrection happens at the last trump, 1st cor. 15:51 proves it, the same last trump is over looked in 1st thess. 14:12-17, judgment day is in heaven where the throne is, and the first resurrection which consist of the faithful and beheaded reign with christ in heaven for a 1000 years which is only one day on earth read last page of 2nd Peter, christ only reigns when there is new earth, because christ only comes back 1ce, and no flesh will be saved upon his return.
indocronx 3 years ago 2
Apparently from this BOGUS "let's scare all the people into giving MORe MONEY TO OUT CHURCHES"This type pf propaganda serves teh churche big time. Then again.. the leaders of these scams..errr I MEAN CHURCHES>. know all to well that putting fear in people will keep most of them in CHECK. WHata bunch of bullshit
alien6crowe 4 years ago
I suppose that everyone is thinking that they should work hard to get in that book of life.
Ballz0Helmeto 4 years ago
salvation is according to faith
you cannot earn it
it is the gift of god
God will however reward your works in heaven
drnhawkins 4 years ago
The Resurrection doesn't take place until the end of the age at the last day. Daniel 12:8-12 end of days resurrection. Also look at John 11:23-25 Last day resurrection. Martha was not told that she was wrong about her thinking about when the resurrection would take place. But she was pointed to the ONE who is the Resurrection. So the resurrection of the believers takes place at the end of the age.
HELPMEIFYOUCAN2 4 years ago
Heenaynee, I agree with you.
None of the early church fathers believed in a pretrib rapture, that doctrine is about 150 yrs old.
HELPMEIFYOUCAN2 4 years ago
they sure did teach it, your deceived with the world, and your father satan, your obviously not educated
MNJST 4 years ago
Awesome! You have to see this premillennial prewrath view. At least it doesn't sit on the fence or avoid the big issues.
pointtojesus 4 years ago
Stupid Chart All false !
ASHRAUD 4 years ago
Man Are you ever Drunk And In a Coma !
First Get his Name correct it would be a start !
ASHRAUD 4 years ago
There is No Christian gate to enter into Heaven. There are 12 gates named after the twelve tribes of Israel. Israel is the bride. If the church is raptured then why does Yahshua pray to His Father asking Him not to take out the Believers in John 17:15????????
Heenaynee 4 years ago
False Doctrine - there is no rapture. Was Noah & his family ratured? - No they weren't. The wicked were taken out. The Messiah's name is not a Greek name(Jesus) He was from the Tribe of Judah, His name is Yahshua, He said He came in His Father's Name. Yahshua means Yah's Salvation. The Father's Name is YAHWEH. You are being decieved.
Heenaynee 4 years ago
Heenaynee all true what you said exception that the Rapture is a false Doctrine. 1st Th 5:9 says. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. We will meet Yahshua in the air.
coppertop1964 4 years ago
secondly Heenaynee the Rapture is not a false doctrine. 1st Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
coppertop1964 4 years ago
The question I have is when 1st Thes 4:17 says "then which we are alive and remain". Remain from what?. I take that as remaining after great tribulation. Anyone have any thoughts on this?.
aimeebooth 3 years ago
aimeebooth, Alive and remain,
This I take it as, The dead rise and translated, the remain, in Christ, are translated next. Then caught up together to meet Jesus in the air.
start in verse 14 tells us what kind of group of people that are going to be caught up.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
tegf4 3 years ago
Apparently from this BOGUS "let's scare all the people into giving MORe MONEY TO OUT CHURCHES"This type pf propaganda serves teh churche big time. Then again.. the leaders of these scams..errr I MEAN CHURCHES>. know all to well that putting fear in people will keep most of them in CHECK. WHata bunch of bullshit
alien6crowe 4 years ago
your a big DUMBY, lol
MNJST 4 years ago 2
alien6crowe, is it REALLY what you are thinking within the deepest of your heart and spirit?!?
No, it's not bullshit!!!
I understand your fear, having for source MANY black sheeps... But we are warned by the Bible of this fact, so: why are you so disgusted?!? There is nothing we can do to avoid such errors, apart praying to don't be ourselves more or less dark...
Thus, you watched this video, which means that you are searching where is the light... It's Jesus, the light!!! Repent your sins!
Jive51 3 years ago
great chart and good information.
coppertop1964 4 years ago