@nolifewithoutrc10 I would highly recommend you look up the RC Naval Combat forums. You will get far more detailed and helpful answers than I can write here on YouTube.
@Mrblaze0505 That's very hard to estimate. I built four of them at the same time, bartered two of the hulls for some of the more expensive components, and built my own cannons from scratch to save money. Further, the expenses were spread out over a two-year period during which I slowly gathered the components, I used spare parts bought for other ships, and I also sold my previous ships to pay for the new ones. cost-wise, I might even have ended up with more cash than I started with.
@alfthebest101 For safety purposes, no cannon is allowed to aim above horizontal. We actually prefer to depress the cannons, to put holes below the waterline and sink the target. It is entirely possible to hole a ship 30+ feet away, but the odds of hitting are astronomically small. Most serious cannonades take place at 6 feet or less.
Many ships have rotating turrets. I chose not to rotate this one, because my ship can turn very well, and without rotation the cannon is simpler to make.
@Mrblaze0505 You can arm as many guns as the historical ship had. Nine main guns? Yep. twelve guns? If it had them. We do place some limitations on torpedoes, however, for gameplay purposes.
@Mrblaze0505 A "torpedo" is a battleship-caliber cannon in the scale location of a torpedo, that is fixed for hitting below the waterline at close range. You don't get many shots, but the ones you do get are devastating.
1) If the ship existed, and you have two reliable sources to prove that it did and provide statistics like armor, speed, armament, etc, then it is legal. If no plans are available (as in not even museums have plans, not just no free plans online), then you can create your own plans based on drawings, descriptions, and contemporary designs for other, similar ships.
2) Yes, plywood forms the ship's structure and framing, with balsa sheet on the outside. The plywood provides the hull's strength and shape. Without that, the ship would likely not survive its first encounter with water.
A bit vague of a question, there. A cannon can send its projectiles a couple hundred feet, but the shots lose energy quickly. I've seen damage inflicted (and ships sunk) from 30 feet, but accuracy at that range is pure dumb luck. Remember, the gunner is standing on shore, usually 10 to 50 feet away from the cannon he's firing. I generally consider accurate fire possible from 6 feet or less, although that can increase if you're close to your ship and able to "eyeball" the shot.
The hull structure is made out of high-quality plywood, either aircraft or marine grade. It is then sheeted with lightweght, thin balsa wood "armor". "armor" thickness is dependent on what the historical ship had, so for example a heavily armored battleship's balsa will be twice as thick as an unprotected destroyer.
Cannons must meet strict safety regulations on power. If I shot myself point-blank with one, I *might* get a bruise. That's about it. Safety glasses, obviously, are required.
If I put my camera inside my own ship, you probably wouldn't see very much because it's really dark. Something about no interior lighting, and such...
However, there is another ship I know of that DOES have interior lighting, and it would be ideal for filming an interior view of the ship during combat. All I have to do is find the perfect camera position.
Dang kotori, you were really gettin' some. Around 6:50 when that enemy ship's turrets faced at you, my blood froze. Glad you kept alive and f*cked sh!t up!
a few years ago, I tried airsoft as a hobby, and using propane or 134a in the gas powered pistols to work the blowback mechanism that actually operated the hammer, I had plenty of problems with freeze off
Richelieu, be careful about what HPA bottle you put in your boat. the carbon fiber bottles are not suitable for high-moisture environments. I've heard from very good sources that they lose strength over time when exposed to moisture, and our boats tend to get wet.
HPA has not been fully tested yet. I'm not the first, but I am one of several skippers doing the testing.
I haven't heard about the moisture thing with fiber wrapped bottles. HPA has been around in the paintball world for over a decade and this is the first I have heard of it. Still, it will be something to watch out for. Perhaps yearly hydrostatic testing to make sure.
So I assume you are using an all aluminum tank then?
Yes, I am using an aluminum tank. A lot of people aren't aware of the moisture issue, and I'm not sure even yearly hydro testing would detect a problem before it blows. In the safety rules my club is writing, carbon fiber will not be permitted. Are you sure you need a 63ci bottle in your treaty battleship? a 48ci aluminum bottle gives you the same number of shots as a 20oz CO2 bottle.
ROF is a touchy topic. It is very common for skippers to unintentionally fire faster than they are technically allowed. Just to give you an idea, I was counting to six-one-thousand after every shot, and at the time, I thought I was firing every six seconds. This video shows otherwise (as little as two seconds between shots) and was very surprising to me. As of now, no mechanical ROF restrictor is required by club rules, but I am investigating the possibility.
um, exactly how to you make the cannons? i am trying to save money myself.
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@nolifewithoutrc10 I would highly recommend you look up the RC Naval Combat forums. You will get far more detailed and helpful answers than I can write here on YouTube.
kotori87 3 months ago
how much did it cost total to build the prinz eugen cuz thts the ship im probably gonna build either tht or a northampton
Mrblaze0505 1 year ago
@Mrblaze0505 That's very hard to estimate. I built four of them at the same time, bartered two of the hulls for some of the more expensive components, and built my own cannons from scratch to save money. Further, the expenses were spread out over a two-year period during which I slowly gathered the components, I used spare parts bought for other ships, and I also sold my previous ships to pay for the new ones. cost-wise, I might even have ended up with more cash than I started with.
kotori87 1 year ago
did you mount the cannon on the aft section of the prince eugen
Mrblaze0505 1 year ago
@Mrblaze0505 yes. Directly atop "C" turret, facing aft.
kotori87 1 year ago
do the guns shoot far and can u like raise and move the turret?
alfthebest101 1 year ago
@alfthebest101 For safety purposes, no cannon is allowed to aim above horizontal. We actually prefer to depress the cannons, to put holes below the waterline and sink the target. It is entirely possible to hole a ship 30+ feet away, but the odds of hitting are astronomically small. Most serious cannonades take place at 6 feet or less.
Many ships have rotating turrets. I chose not to rotate this one, because my ship can turn very well, and without rotation the cannon is simpler to make.
kotori87 1 year ago
is this a good club with goodd people in it?? and good boats this big gunn right
REmek17 2 years ago
yes to all of the above :)
kotori87 2 years ago
@kotori87 gezze how many guns can you mount on one ship in tht club tht one battleship at 6:50 you squared off against had nine
Mrblaze0505 1 year ago
@Mrblaze0505 You can arm as many guns as the historical ship had. Nine main guns? Yep. twelve guns? If it had them. We do place some limitations on torpedoes, however, for gameplay purposes.
kotori87 1 year ago
@kotori87 how do you make torpedos
Mrblaze0505 1 year ago
@Mrblaze0505 A "torpedo" is a battleship-caliber cannon in the scale location of a torpedo, that is fixed for hitting below the waterline at close range. You don't get many shots, but the ones you do get are devastating.
kotori87 1 year ago
A couple of questions relating to the building and admitting of ships:
1) Will you allow a ship to sail and fight in you club if someone can present evidence that it existed and we sank it, but cannot present many plans?
2) Also, in your response to "zoomizoomzoomzam," is the plywood the frame of the ship? Because I thought the hull itself was just the sheet balsa.
Thanks.
obiDoglet 2 years ago
1) If the ship existed, and you have two reliable sources to prove that it did and provide statistics like armor, speed, armament, etc, then it is legal. If no plans are available (as in not even museums have plans, not just no free plans online), then you can create your own plans based on drawings, descriptions, and contemporary designs for other, similar ships.
kotori87 2 years ago
2) Yes, plywood forms the ship's structure and framing, with balsa sheet on the outside. The plywood provides the hull's strength and shape. Without that, the ship would likely not survive its first encounter with water.
kotori87 2 years ago
Was that an Atlanta-class light cruiser at 4:26?
obiDoglet 2 years ago
@obiDoglet yuup
Mrblaze0505 1 year ago
how far can it shoot
bearhaulin120 2 years ago
A bit vague of a question, there. A cannon can send its projectiles a couple hundred feet, but the shots lose energy quickly. I've seen damage inflicted (and ships sunk) from 30 feet, but accuracy at that range is pure dumb luck. Remember, the gunner is standing on shore, usually 10 to 50 feet away from the cannon he's firing. I generally consider accurate fire possible from 6 feet or less, although that can increase if you're close to your ship and able to "eyeball" the shot.
kotori87 2 years ago
5:11 he visibly creates 3 holes that weren't there before :D
StuffGoesBoom 2 years ago
Great video. I love the sound of the cannons firing.
16FEET 2 years ago
what materials are used for the hull?
and how powerful can guns be?
zoomizoomzoomzam 2 years ago
The hull structure is made out of high-quality plywood, either aircraft or marine grade. It is then sheeted with lightweght, thin balsa wood "armor". "armor" thickness is dependent on what the historical ship had, so for example a heavily armored battleship's balsa will be twice as thick as an unprotected destroyer.
Cannons must meet strict safety regulations on power. If I shot myself point-blank with one, I *might* get a bruise. That's about it. Safety glasses, obviously, are required.
kotori87 2 years ago
3:59 one big Container...
lilboygood 2 years ago
What are you using for a actuator?
Zeamus634 2 years ago
I'm using a Clippard MPA-7 air-pilot actuator to open the main air valve. Is that what you wanted to know?
kotori87 2 years ago
It is, Can you make a video of the inside?
Zeamus634 2 years ago
If I put my camera inside my own ship, you probably wouldn't see very much because it's really dark. Something about no interior lighting, and such...
However, there is another ship I know of that DOES have interior lighting, and it would be ideal for filming an interior view of the ship during combat. All I have to do is find the perfect camera position.
kotori87 2 years ago
I mean taking the deck off and explaining how everything works etc.
Zeamus634 2 years ago
Almost sounds like a click of a shot gun pump.
I watched closely when the Rodney put his broadside to you rear guns. You see a hole made.
This is great.
rygasewicz 2 years ago
Wow! That is awesome!
Despite the "larger than life" sound, I think it is quite fitting for these scenes!
Mooshubeef 2 years ago
Dang kotori, you were really gettin' some. Around 6:50 when that enemy ship's turrets faced at you, my blood froze. Glad you kept alive and f*cked sh!t up!
DantehMan 2 years ago
whats the propulsive force of the bb's, CO2?
Xantec 2 years ago
Most ships still use CO2, but I upgraded to HPA several months ago. No problems with freezing regulators and other cold-related ills when using HPA.
kotori87 2 years ago
a few years ago, I tried airsoft as a hobby, and using propane or 134a in the gas powered pistols to work the blowback mechanism that actually operated the hammer, I had plenty of problems with freeze off
Xantec 2 years ago
Kotori, are you the first warship across the model warship spectrum to use HPA?
I'm building a 63ci HPA air system into my Treaty Gascogne. It is a tight fit, but well worth the trouble squeezing it in IMO.
RichelieuBB 2 years ago
Richelieu, be careful about what HPA bottle you put in your boat. the carbon fiber bottles are not suitable for high-moisture environments. I've heard from very good sources that they lose strength over time when exposed to moisture, and our boats tend to get wet.
HPA has not been fully tested yet. I'm not the first, but I am one of several skippers doing the testing.
kotori87 2 years ago
I haven't heard about the moisture thing with fiber wrapped bottles. HPA has been around in the paintball world for over a decade and this is the first I have heard of it. Still, it will be something to watch out for. Perhaps yearly hydrostatic testing to make sure.
So I assume you are using an all aluminum tank then?
RichelieuBB 2 years ago
Yes, I am using an aluminum tank. A lot of people aren't aware of the moisture issue, and I'm not sure even yearly hydro testing would detect a problem before it blows. In the safety rules my club is writing, carbon fiber will not be permitted. Are you sure you need a 63ci bottle in your treaty battleship? a 48ci aluminum bottle gives you the same number of shots as a 20oz CO2 bottle.
kotori87 2 years ago
2:25 Beutiful.
lilboygood 2 years ago
Hey! Rate of fire with that scatter gun.
rygasewicz 2 years ago
rygasewicz, max rate of fire is restricted to one shot every 6 seconds with a 7/32" gun (which represents an 11-14.99" cannon)
Ref. Pg. 15, WWCC 2009 Rules, available at the website in kotori87s profile description.
Seamus451 2 years ago
ROF is a touchy topic. It is very common for skippers to unintentionally fire faster than they are technically allowed. Just to give you an idea, I was counting to six-one-thousand after every shot, and at the time, I thought I was firing every six seconds. This video shows otherwise (as little as two seconds between shots) and was very surprising to me. As of now, no mechanical ROF restrictor is required by club rules, but I am investigating the possibility.
kotori87 2 years ago