i agree that tony wilson must have loved manchester but come on the only fucking people who dont find these places dull and fucking boring are twats with money who dont have to live there.
like him or loathe him,tony wilson loved the great city of manchester !!!!and he did alot for it .........to use the words of another great mancunian..."oh manchester,so much too answer for "
You really do lack imagination. 5 years eh, why do you feel the need to mention this. Are you saving yourself for your wedding night, passionless as well and boring - what a combination. Do you work for a bank?
What a load of bollocks you uneducated southern socialist jackass. Tony Wilson was a legend instrumental in shaping the UK music scene, Morley on the otherhand is and was a shite muso journalist who followed trends.
wilson really did beleive his own propaganda. if there was anything that helped shape the music scene oop fackin north ,it was the piss poor weather . remember, we've got bowie, roxy
and the stones. all the best music came from the south.
Art of noise were shite, bunch of 2nd rate session musos with expensive electronics, if memory serves me there biggest hit was a cover. Remind me where Lennon and McCartney the most influential songwriters of the 20 century come from. (ROXY there only #1 was a Lennon song, Bowie co wrote ''Fame' his biggest American hit with Lennon and The Stones first hit single was a Lennon and McCartney song). Like
listen you tory northern fucker, don,t get me going about the beatles. probably the most over rated ,hyped band in history, a phoney antedote to lost empire. yello submarine? do me a favour! the beatles wrote great songs, if like a child, enjoys nursery ryhmes.
and as for that cunt john lennon splitting up the plastic band( who were a much more talented group) he deserved to get shot for inventing super crass song 'imagine', alone!
History tells us that Socialist politics belong in the dustbin, Beatles are the greatest band ever and Paul Morely is a wanker. Cant argue with the facts.
facts also argue that the last 300 years of crapitalism has been the most bloodiest epoch in history(not including famines and the awful 'revolver' album).
Oh like the soviet union didn't murder 13Million. Typical uneducated socialist spouting nonsense. I wont even lower myself to argue with someone who cant hear what Revolver is. Let those with ears hear;)
Joy Division are one of the few bands from that era who's output still stands up.
Capitalism has its faults and things can be argued. Revolver just sucks. Do not compare them to Joy Division for Christ's sake. Don't even compare them to INXS, which also sucks.
Ironic Comment. The party bureaucrats of the U.S.S.R controlled and directed the means of production- not the proletariat. As this latter aspect is the defining feature of a socialist workers state, the Soviet Union has nothing at all to do with socialism, but merely state capitalism. Such is the case in all modern "socialist" states wherein laborers labor for the profit of an external, exploitative entity- whether that be the state or a corporation.
Joy Division kick the fucking shit out of The Beatles. It's like raving about a stone wheel when you could have a Ferrari. As popular as it is I don't buy into the Beatles thing. They're good, but better things followed - Doors, Pistols, Velvet Underground, Joy Division, The Cure, Pink Floyd, Metallica, David Bowie etc etc etc
Well I'd be careful how much of a retard you make me out to be, seeing as you will automatically be a couple degrees more retarded, as you can't spell as well as I can.
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Get fucked, you think Dawkins is worth reading, so don't talk to me about a lack of anything upstairs. Dawkins is to science what Michael Moore is political analysis. Are you high fiving yourself in the mirror with each would-be pithy comeback?
Wow, a pseudo intellectual music student/teacher who lists pulpy pop-science books in an attempt to appear learned in a field outside of tedious funk rock masturbation - quelle suprise!
Tut tut getting annoyed are we? Is that your real name, bog trotter.
Your preference in comedy and Sci-fi AND music do reveal a personality bypass - Do have trouble with girls? Do trains excite you? Do you like Metallica?
Bog trotter? casual racism eh, nice. What an odious little shit you are. Me and my girlfriend will celebrate our fifth anniversary in a few weeks if you must know
they were all influenced in some shape or form by the beatles,the beatles were always the first to try out new ideas and the masses followed a few examples strings loops feedback,helter skelter was what got ian gillan into heavy rock oh strings jd used synthesised strings
with the benefit of hindsight - this doc (which I liked at the time) was largely BS.
wilson took us for a great feckin ride and i loved every minute of it. Factory die hards will tell you they had no marketing or promo dept....Wilson was a living breathing marketing machine.
remember, wilson & factory in their prime missed the chance to sign : the smiths, the stone roses & others
I will always remember the first time I heard Joy Division, I still get goose bumps when that riff hits my ears. The energy is awsome. thanks for posting this.
I wish Paul Morley would f**k off. I almost ran him over whilst driving around West Hampstead 3 years ago, in a white transit helping some mates move house. He was waltzing pretensiously across the road with his Sunday paper. I tell ye, it was THAT CLOSE.
Joy Division were ace...anyone that compares Interpol to Joy Division needs a beating as well. Okay, Rant over.
interesting to see this, especially in the recent context of wilson's death and the new film 'control' about ian curtis. thanks for posting it. it's good to see how the perception of factory/joy division remains consistent over the years.
i agree that tony wilson must have loved manchester but come on the only fucking people who dont find these places dull and fucking boring are twats with money who dont have to live there.
geelad6969 2 years ago
Im from austria, and never been to manchester, maybe ill got just because of joy division, can anyone tell me whats it like there??
indiebird12 2 years ago
like him or loathe him,tony wilson loved the great city of manchester !!!!and he did alot for it .........to use the words of another great mancunian..."oh manchester,so much too answer for "
garymilli 2 years ago 2
Oh come on now! your comebacks really are dull.
You really do lack imagination. 5 years eh, why do you feel the need to mention this. Are you saving yourself for your wedding night, passionless as well and boring - what a combination. Do you work for a bank?
Reevomatic 3 years ago
lol - Definitely a banker and a merchant one at that.
funkygibby 3 years ago
Hooky is just so bloody brilliant and honest. Love him to bits! R.I.P. Ian, Tony and Martin - the world and music are sadder without you...
NativeMoon 3 years ago 2
Id love to bump into "wot2wot" and give him a fucking good hiding. typical, arrogant, ignorant southern wanker.
mattcham86 3 years ago
Paul Morley is a wanker. Then and now.
funkygibby 3 years ago
you leave morley alone. you fuckin depressing northern bastard.
morley invented crosby stills nash and young.
he knows his stuff.
if anyones a wanker its the dead tony wilson and YOU.
PRICK ON ICE
wot2wot2 3 years ago
What a load of bollocks you uneducated southern socialist jackass. Tony Wilson was a legend instrumental in shaping the UK music scene, Morley on the otherhand is and was a shite muso journalist who followed trends.
tedthened01 3 years ago
"shite muso?" havent you heard of art of noise?
wilson really did beleive his own propaganda. if there was anything that helped shape the music scene oop fackin north ,it was the piss poor weather . remember, we've got bowie, roxy
and the stones. all the best music came from the south.
wot2wot2 3 years ago
Roxy were from Newcastle. Is that 'Oop fackin' north'? North of Manchester? Maybe I'm mistaken..
domdadomdom 3 years ago
Art of noise were shite, bunch of 2nd rate session musos with expensive electronics, if memory serves me there biggest hit was a cover. Remind me where Lennon and McCartney the most influential songwriters of the 20 century come from. (ROXY there only #1 was a Lennon song, Bowie co wrote ''Fame' his biggest American hit with Lennon and The Stones first hit single was a Lennon and McCartney song). Like
tedthened01 3 years ago
listen you tory northern fucker, don,t get me going about the beatles. probably the most over rated ,hyped band in history, a phoney antedote to lost empire. yello submarine? do me a favour! the beatles wrote great songs, if like a child, enjoys nursery ryhmes.
and as for that cunt john lennon splitting up the plastic band( who were a much more talented group) he deserved to get shot for inventing super crass song 'imagine', alone!
wot2wot2 3 years ago
History tells us that Socialist politics belong in the dustbin, Beatles are the greatest band ever and Paul Morely is a wanker. Cant argue with the facts.
tedthened01 3 years ago
facts also argue that the last 300 years of crapitalism has been the most bloodiest epoch in history(not including famines and the awful 'revolver' album).
cant argue with the facts.
wot2wot2 3 years ago
Oh like the soviet union didn't murder 13Million. Typical uneducated socialist spouting nonsense. I wont even lower myself to argue with someone who cant hear what Revolver is. Let those with ears hear;)
Joy Division are one of the few bands from that era who's output still stands up.
tedthened01 3 years ago
Capitalism has its faults and things can be argued. Revolver just sucks. Do not compare them to Joy Division for Christ's sake. Don't even compare them to INXS, which also sucks.
BRENDANJBEHAN 3 years ago
No comparision, somepeople think shakespeare sucks, I guess its something to do with lack of intelligence.
tedthened01 3 years ago
Ironic Comment. The party bureaucrats of the U.S.S.R controlled and directed the means of production- not the proletariat. As this latter aspect is the defining feature of a socialist workers state, the Soviet Union has nothing at all to do with socialism, but merely state capitalism. Such is the case in all modern "socialist" states wherein laborers labor for the profit of an external, exploitative entity- whether that be the state or a corporation.
It seems you are the uneducated one.
VanguardofVertu 3 years ago
Capitalism is the inevitable extension of human nature, until we become airy fairy beings of light, it probably won't get much better
liamhedonic 3 years ago
Joy Division kick the fucking shit out of The Beatles. It's like raving about a stone wheel when you could have a Ferrari. As popular as it is I don't buy into the Beatles thing. They're good, but better things followed - Doors, Pistols, Velvet Underground, Joy Division, The Cure, Pink Floyd, Metallica, David Bowie etc etc etc
liamhedonic 3 years ago 2
Yeah and some people think Mozarts music is crap. Your obviously not very bright and your music taste not very orginal either. Metallica haha.
funkygibby 3 years ago
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When you said "Your obviously not very bright", did you mean "You're obviously not very bright"?
Learn to spell before you call someone stupid, you fucking idiot.
liamhedonic 3 years ago
OH fountain of knowledge, Of all the terabytes of video your favourites are dick and dom and Dr Who. nuff said.
funkygibby 3 years ago 5
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Well I'd be careful how much of a retard you make me out to be, seeing as you will automatically be a couple degrees more retarded, as you can't spell as well as I can.
liamhedonic 3 years ago
Great comeback,I bet spelling really makes up for lack of imagination.
funkygibby 3 years ago 5
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Get fucked, you think Dawkins is worth reading, so don't talk to me about a lack of anything upstairs. Dawkins is to science what Michael Moore is political analysis. Are you high fiving yourself in the mirror with each would-be pithy comeback?
Wow, a pseudo intellectual music student/teacher who lists pulpy pop-science books in an attempt to appear learned in a field outside of tedious funk rock masturbation - quelle suprise!
liamhedonic 3 years ago
Tut tut getting annoyed are we? Is that your real name, bog trotter.
Your preference in comedy and Sci-fi AND music do reveal a personality bypass - Do have trouble with girls? Do trains excite you? Do you like Metallica?
funkygibby 3 years ago 6
Bog trotter? casual racism eh, nice. What an odious little shit you are. Me and my girlfriend will celebrate our fifth anniversary in a few weeks if you must know
liamhedonic 3 years ago
why cant you just enjoy the music-does it matter who is the best. Besides your opinion will always be subjective. Grow up.
farygrazer 3 years ago 3
In your opinion!
I love Joy division and the Beatles
it is not a competition. just enjoy the music, incidentally i don't get metallica or pink floyd after syd barrett.
ramcatsurfer 2 years ago
they were all influenced in some shape or form by the beatles,the beatles were always the first to try out new ideas and the masses followed a few examples strings loops feedback,helter skelter was what got ian gillan into heavy rock oh strings jd used synthesised strings
robert99brown 2 years ago
fuck the beetles they just copied all the niggers
pwnyoubitch 2 years ago
well said
robert99brown 2 years ago
well it doesnt matter were a band is from if their good their good and in your favourite music you have new order are you abit backwards?
and' for the record's the stones fuckin suck
heartandsoul1988 3 years ago
bloody hell, Morley looks so different now!
TheKarmaKid42 3 years ago
with the benefit of hindsight - this doc (which I liked at the time) was largely BS.
wilson took us for a great feckin ride and i loved every minute of it. Factory die hards will tell you they had no marketing or promo dept....Wilson was a living breathing marketing machine.
remember, wilson & factory in their prime missed the chance to sign : the smiths, the stone roses & others
doublej999 4 years ago
This is great-Tony Wilson does us proud ALWAYS promoting Manchester! RIP Lads xo
doherty967 4 years ago
lol i love hooks honesty
richielaceyone 4 years ago
I will always remember the first time I heard Joy Division, I still get goose bumps when that riff hits my ears. The energy is awsome. thanks for posting this.
BaldStatements 4 years ago
I wish Paul Morley would f**k off. I almost ran him over whilst driving around West Hampstead 3 years ago, in a white transit helping some mates move house. He was waltzing pretensiously across the road with his Sunday paper. I tell ye, it was THAT CLOSE.
Joy Division were ace...anyone that compares Interpol to Joy Division needs a beating as well. Okay, Rant over.
vincabron 4 years ago 5
luv it....but wot happened to the"touching from a distance" flick?
12719386 4 years ago
It's called Control and is out now!
blackdice23 4 years ago
Nice One!!!
CasWreckinCrew 4 years ago
interesting to see this, especially in the recent context of wilson's death and the new film 'control' about ian curtis. thanks for posting it. it's good to see how the perception of factory/joy division remains consistent over the years.
brianwilson49 4 years ago
R.I.P Ian.C, Tony Wilson, Rob Gretton And Martin Hannett
komrabai 4 years ago 4
Fantastic/thank u,ur brill 4 posting this u kw ur stuff!
handsomedevil98 4 years ago