Call for pan-European referendum on new EU Treaty

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22 October Methodist westminister

[crazy06deli]

Sarkozy, who .???? Jewish? yes Thessaloniki Jews.

Who is Sarkozy. Gaddafi, currently one of the election campaign

money

[futuramark]

we need far right parties in all europe to defend our race then we will join..and remove puppet goverments

[g2olondon]

SAY NO NO NO

[LeighHobnob]

We will never get the chance to say anything anymore

[Spenner56]

The Lisbon treaty/constitution's "citizens initiative" shows us what post-democratic Europe will look like...a million EU "citizens" will be "allowed" to gather 1 million signatures and present this petition to the UN-ELECTED COMMISSION who are under no obligation whatsoever to do anything about it !

This is how far democracy has sunk in once democratic Europe....Gerge Orwell must be turning in his grave.

Now only Ireland can save us.

Google : No 2 Lisbon 2

[PounamuKnight]

75 per cent of europeans want a referendum.

That's a lot of vested interest. And yet no referendum.Except in Ireland, beautiful Ireland.

[levenbrown]

On something as constitutionally important as selling out a sovereign nations power to a 'foreign' state such as the EU the people should be asked.

An argument to the contrary not only devalues democracy but drives a horse and cart through the fundamental principal that it is the people who are in charge of the politicians.

If the EU is frightened of asking the people then it must ask itself where its values lie. It appears as if they regard the average citizens opinion as irrelevant.

[AnatolianPhilosopher]

May the evil capitalist greedy EU fall for eternal time! DESTROY THE EU!

[Thiseas1974]

get lost Turk...

[ViriathusVingathor]

Yes,anarchy,then we would return to the middle ages,as the stronger would try to rule the weak.

[GenuineVoiceOfReason]

UKIP EXPOSED! NIGEL FARAGE £2 MILLION EXPENSES

This story was in the Observer 24th May, check it out

Nigel Farage from UKIP has just been exposed boasting about the fact that he has claimed £2 Million in expenses from the Taxpayer!

Think UKIP are any different? THINK AGAIN!!

[Caty25cat]

People of all EU Countries have a right to REFERENDUM!! Shame on EU!!

[GIW2009]

DO YOU WANT A EUROPEAN FEDERAL SUPERSTATE?

IF NO THEN:

Type "EU military" into the youtube search engine.

The uploaderr of this - one "arbitrary" is a libdem politician.

Ask him to justify the UK's inclusion into the EU federal superstate.

He is determined to tuen the UK into a state run by the EU.

[Gmail0509]

we need a united europe with one government, one constitution , one army the same defense policy and valeus!!

a united europe is a peaceful europe!

[lukedangy]

Are you crazy?!!

[Gmail0509]

No Im not !:) :)

Plus: I wish Tony Blair becomes the next President of the EU commission and gives the EU a new impulse... :)

[vanaustin255]

The EU is absolutely paralyed as they can't please everyone. Humans are individuals and will never be happy being forced to live as one group just to make it easier to be enslaved by one leader. Ask yourself; What is the purpose of only ONE GOVERNMENT? Why is it sooo important to them? When your neighbor can entice your people with better ideas for living and for Govt, you get rid of the neighbor or you lose your power. God Forbid that should happen. Wake Up Europe..

[mickyh234]

Tell me, who elects the euaropean government and how long do they remain in office? I'm not talking about individual MEP'S I'm talking about a two party democracy! Furthermore, say that the super-state makes a decision to the detriment of the UK that you wish to protest over and dispute, are you going to go all the way to Brussells with you plackard to protest?

The EU is what is known as a 'transnational bureaucracy' the government itself is not elected, there are no seperate opposition parties

[Gmail0509]

Next July the European election will take place all over Europe. The Europeans can vote to elect the European parliament, which is composed by many parties, from the right to the left. Many of the members of the E Parliament are against the European Union So there is opposition in Europe.

[Gmail0509]

The European Parliament is elected for a period of 4 years. The same for the EU commission We need the British engaged in the UE political process. WE NEED YOU IN EUROPE.. so please, put a side your criticism, and give us some help to build a more United Europe

[mickyh234]

I would sooner see the world go up in flames than support a united europe. Democratic elections of the sort that you speak are pointless. Europe, I will define as a democratic dictatorship.

[Gmail0509]

A United Europe is for the best interests of the UK you are more influent in Europe than outside I hope the next EU commission President will be a British top politician in order to give a new impulse to Europe, and bring some of the political culture and British efficiency to the commission...:)

[vanaustin255]

No, we need individualism, emphisis on different cultures, celebrate all our great seperate and interesting traditions. All governments should be local to their peoples, not 1000 of miles away and removed from our reality.

[Gmail0509]

The EU has been in many ways more efficient in Europe than many national governments! In the last decades, the European commissions have putting in place many programs to developed and modernize Europe! Better than many national governments! I m for a multicultural, multinational, free democratic and prosperous Europe!

[mischnix]

I m for a multicultural, multinational, free democratic and prosperous Europe!

Me too. This is why I am pro-Europe and anti-EU. It's just not democratic (the German court of constitution proved it).

[Guruma]

Polish president Kaczynski fought for more democratic EU, he wanted change countries vote so that bigger countries will have a lesser vote power (Poland too) and smaller like Holland or Czech will have more to say.

We were biotched! Second our president isnt ratificating Lisbona threaty coz reland said NO. Whats more EU law says if any country said NO then NO. Simple....

We are bitched... :( Fuck EU

[PolishAmericanDC]

Mr. Spenner56 you are correct. We  have to wake up. Thaks to Irlandia did not pass

[Spenner56]

Last WARNING for Democracy !

Article 33,paragraph 6 of the Lisbon Treaty allows the 25 members of the EU executive the right (with only two exceptions) to change or declare null & void ALL rules/regulations/laws present in existing treaties relating to..... economy ;tax ;civil society ;environment etc.

« Sorry,this is a dictatorial constitution » (Prof. Schachttschneider, University of Erlangen-Nürnberg).

[PolishAmericanDC]

Klaus is correct and Polsih president is correct

[Spenner56]

Fee Europe :

« The EU can lawfully suppress political criticism of its institutions and of leading public figures «( European Court of Justice ruling 2001 ).

The European Charter of Fundamental Rights (art.2,passage 2c) states that lethal force can be used against EU citizens to quell.. "rioting,civil upheaval ».

The same Charter does NOT mention the right of EU citizens to VOTE.

Perhaps they forgot.

Let's remind them in the European elections.

google : eutruth (and weep).

[to86726]

And now on to my point: All women and men deserve the right to be informed and make educated decisions. These issues are the domain of the average man and woman, in centuries past these very matters of governance and freedoms were fought for to bring about a fair and just society. If you believe centralised government leading back to the UN will provided you with greater freedoms and rights you are sadly mistaken. Yes UN because the EU is a precursor to globalisation.

May GOD help us all

[to86726]

Verfallsdatum

You dont happen to work for Parliament or a government agency do you?

Oh and I thought that Europe was meant to be democratic, your rhetoric is socialist.

[Verfallsdatum]

If the Brits don't want more integration, I suggest they leave the EU!

The referendum in France just showed that people are misinformed and are not qualified to decide for this kind of thing. They said no to a 400 pages treaty none of them had read, and very few really understood what it was about. It this case, democracy says that you have elected a guy who is more intelligent and informed than you are, so you let him decide what's good for you.

[Fridomfry]

Thanks A LOT for such an initiative !

[Ithryl]

Time to impeach Blair, Barroso and the likes

[jennyliberty]

You're right, when do the people get a voice? They've taken us in to very dangerous waters. The war criminals, and the political whores of the EU dictatorship have to go!

[rambo753]

NO to this kind of Europe.

Irish please express your opinion also for the other European peoples that were not allow to vote against this swindle

[Greg260146]

Good luck Eire - Get the truth about oppression and the denial of democracy that is the centralised EU to enough people to vote NO & regain your liberty.

Membership of the EU has been a catastrophy for Eire raising hopes and provided a brief boom just to be used as a bribe to dupe the British. The EU now has little more chance of feeding iteslf without import than Eire had in the hungry 40s. The wars of disassociation are coming sooner rather than later and will be hideous - Vote NO leave NOW.

[tradingplaces400]

this is so true the eu leaders nare traters to there own nation's and thus need to be treated like traters

[Binfieldius]

traitors*

and

their*

[EuropeanEye]

what's funny is that britain never held a referendum in its history

[Bamboo14b]

ok no referendum hmm 1973 northern island constitution 1975 membership in the eec 1979 devolution for scotland 1979 devolution for wales, 1998 assembly and mayor for london, 1998 the good friday agreement. ok then no ofence mate but that seems to contradict "britain never held a referendum in its history" please next time you comment on something dont just spread unbelivable lies.

[Bamboo14b]

oh before someone says anything i probably shouldn't have said "lies" more incorrect facts my bad

[DavidTL]

We held a referendum 1979 questioning our membership in the EU too.

[Exodiusz]

Can you imagine having referendums almoust every day? Even one costs like hell.

[DavidTL]

Yes but this is a serious issue regarding the sovereignty and independence of our nation.

[EUamerican]

This woman, like the rest of the "informed voters" HAS NOT READ the Lisbon Treaty!!!!

READ this Treaty-PLEASE-before opening you BIG mouth! Read Articles Four and Five, lady, you're wrong! Representatives in parliaments IS, absolutely democratic!!! The "democracy" this lady is referring to is known as MOB RULE! This Treaty is too important for the entire world to give ir over to the mobs!

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

That's the big problem with a Treaty referendum.

The overwhelming majority of the people wouldn't even bother to glance at the document. We live in a world of selfish, whiny, lazy citizens, and that's what killing democracy - not "Brussels".

[MrSabre11]

ok then how about the amsterdam treaty section 280 where the UK will loose their right to trial by jury and habeus corpus?

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

xD

The Amsterdam Treaty does not have a "section 280".

Also, that treaty was signed by the UK more than 10 years ago. Has your little world collapsed since then?

[MrSabre11]

absolutley, its not the amsterdam treaty, my bad.. But check the Consolidated treaty of the EU where it describes the court system, the word Jury is not mentioned once. I also checked the other documents but could not find mention to a jury in the EU court sstem

[EUamerican]

"Democracy" IS NOT measured by the ability of the public to vote on absolutely everything! Modern democracy is also about voting for reps. that can understand and appreciate the importance of this Treaty! This Treaty is vastly too important for the rest of the world, as well as Europe, to allow ignorant mobs "vote" in it!

The world NEEDS Europe!

[jamesjnr67]

that sums up the mind set of the pro europeans nicely-everyone else is part of an ignorant mob and shouldnt be allowed to vote on this issue-how superbly undemocratic.

[andymurray2007]

David Cameron, Leader of the UK Conservative Party has pledged to tear up the EU Treaty, even if it has been signed!!!

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

I'd LOVE to see that.

[andymurray2007]

The people of Eastern Europe brought down the Soviet Union and the people of Western Europe will bring down the European Union.

It's going to happen...

[ViriathusVingathor]

we are not a soviet union,if we become that,you are absolutely right,this union collapses,but that will never happen

[ViriathusVingathor]

europaism,was founded,thats the most important,previous countries,are dead,europe in our conscience is becoming more important,than our local power,so EU if was brought down,it would be to replace the polititians in power,not to return to the old state of countries,that would end to be much worse than EU.even if she was corrupt as you suppose she will be.

[DionysosEleutherios]

Excuse me if I ask, but.... are you crazy?

[bertibubu]

You Britains slowly pissing me off!!!GO TO YOUR FUCKING AMERICANS THE OILJUNKY'S AND SEPARATE YOU FROM THE EU!!!!"BRITAINS-GO HOME"

[devientgit]

we want nothing more than that to happen!!!! realy we do.

[bertibubu]

Yeah i too.You're the same dirty assholes and corrupt assholes like the USA

[JLees2000uk]

Unfortunately Reforendums can only come out one way because the media that is supposed to be unbiased especially in Britain (Including BBC) are against the EU and do not give fair reporting on EU proposals. so the uneducated are swayed by what media tell them.

[brinna66]

so typically socialist of bottler brown..the electorate get no say in the matter..his treatment of the british people might come back to haunt him if we show some collective bottle..bring on the B.N.P they truly care about britain and the british

[reflett]

I wish our Generals had the same courage as Musharaf then an armed coup might get rid of this evil government and give us Brown's fat head on a plate.

[americanscantbuild]

You britts are so nationalistic!

[storinge]

The citizens of France and Netherlands gave the "wrong" answers, so now our political masters have decided between them - no more votes. This is a stitch-up! This is not democracy! DOWN WITH BROWN!

[ViewPointUK]

When the UK electorate vote a government into power we are entrusting them with all our rights for a short period. At the end of that period we expect these rights to be returned to us undiminished for us to pass to the next government that we elect. Governments should NEVER give away our rights without our express consent.

[storinge]

Well said ViewPointUK. See also video "Gordon Brown opts out of champagne at EU Summit". Gordon is obviously feeling very pleased with himself for side-stepping the democratic process.

[carlosariars]

It's a pity that the rational debate on Europe is often drowned out by the loud kicking and screaming of fearful, ill-informed and frankly ignorant hypernationalistic voices, especially in the UK.

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

Well said.

[kebon]

Sign the petition for a REFERENDUM in your country at h t t p: //X09(dot)eu

[102trafalgar]

I want a referendum! I want my country back!

Peter Gizzi Gillingham Kent (now La Manche) UK

[trap9876]

Yeah lets not.

[bopn]

Lets vote for the EU.