Anti-Flag - Underground Network - Underground Network

[Videotasic]

Heh,Anti-Flag thought about the use of social networks before they were used in Egypt or elsewhere. The key is to build ones free of corporate control before these get locked down too.

[1songsful]

best song by them

[mark4c92]

anti flag anytime live is always siiiiiiiick

[MrSoldier218]

This song live was siiiik!!!

[PunkMahone59]

sorry man but anti flag doesn't want sheeps, i know you can see some kind of a fake here (but the music so you said and i agree with you on that point) but it's not, it's just not that important, hello there!!!! Anti Flag is not that important !!!! That's why they do their best to make us move our asses,in our everyday lives we don't worship a god named Anti flag but it can help us keeping our head straight and helping those around us who are fucked up by the powerful ones.

[zwiseone2]

first time listening to anti-flag, im usually more into metal, but holy shit, just listened this song, and this machine kills facists, these guys are fucking awesome

[TheOfficialSyndrome]

@zwiseone2 Yeah dude! I'm into a lot of deathcore and this hardcore punk stuff really fits the heavy mold. Check out Death Of A Nation and Tearing Down The Borders too.

[antiflag190]

@zwiseone2 nice to know your listening to the best band ever

[hungrykillerspoon]

at the fillmore in detroit its underground bathroom, alternative urination.

[MRGENERATIONADD]

this vinyl is only ten bucks on amazon right now, score.

[skullboy12100]

this band is so fucking good (Y)

best band ever

[Mistagamebrain]

I would like to say one thing.......we are the government, we choose our leaders, we choose our laws, and we complain about it? how does that make any sense, i love this band, if we were true punks, we would form a military force of our own(which is legal BTW) and do something about it, not cry about it, not sing about it, WE WOULD FIGHT like our four fathers did, the British empire overthrown by farmers and peasants, yet 300+ years later, America isnt so brave anymore

[MarchingTheBeat]

@Mistagamebrain Here's a thought. How 'bout you do some research and see that we are NOT actually in charge of out government anymore. We are technically a dictatorship under martial law. Pay attention to the world and see that we have no control. They have brought in the army and marines on countless PEACEFUL protests. Imagine a full scale uprising. We will save that for later. There will be a revolution in less than a year. It's here.

[Mistagamebrain]

@MarchingTheBeat That was during Bush's reign of terror, peaceful protests, wont work, the reason we have no control is because we sit back and watch our country wither on CNN/Fox and nobody does anything, solely because we a scared, but i would die to at least know i made a difference, and be happy about it, there are no more patriots in this country, Why is it so difficult to organize a militia, under the Geneva convention, if our force was big enough, America would have to treat us as an army

[Mistagamebrain]

@Mistagamebrain we could rob banks with no penalty, we could house arms and ammo, but the two of us aren't going to do shit by ourselves

[cjhannum1195]

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[kogaKageOokami]

its funny to see people defedning them for selling out, saying "they did what they had to do so its ok"...but that dosnt change anything...they sold out whether they had a good reason or not makes no difference

[Tacticalnewb]

@kogaKageOokami I hardly see how they sold out? What they're successful? They still make what they want and have the same message. Last time I checked, that's not selling out.

[kogaKageOokami]

@Tacticalnewb signing to a major record label



[Tacticalnewb]

@kogaKageOokami Okay, if you say so. But I don't think that SideOneDummy is a major record label. I believe they are an independent punk rock label, but you would know best :)

[kogaKageOokami]

In 2005, Anti-Flag signed a two-album record contract with major label RCA.

[Tacticalnewb]

@kogaKageOokami Oh no, not a two album contract! :O I just don't see why people get worked up about this shit, like really.... Why does it matter?

[kogaKageOokami]

@Tacticalnewb why does anything matter it dosnt im simply stating something i found interesting how many people got 'all worked up' defending them,anyways/ so then you agree?

[Tacticalnewb]

@kogaKageOokami Yeah sure, It just doesn't make sense to me why everyone treats it like a big deal, haha.

[kogaKageOokami]

@Tacticalnewb big record companies = big buisness = the same evil the supposedly make music protesting

[L0stInDespair]

@kogaKageOokami there's good capitalism such as record label companies and then there's the corrupt. how else were they supposed to get heard?

[Mistagamebrain]

@L0stInDespair That fucking ballox, how do you speak out against something, if it puts money in your pocket? if Anti-flag really stood for something, they wouldnt have a record deal, nor would any other band, punk music is just another label for kids who think the world is against them, America is a capitalist society and always was, if they really wanted to do something about it, the kids would stop being bitches, and fight back, but none of us have the balls nowdays, and thats the truth

[L0stInDespair]

@Mistagamebrain music is just art man. art to express. record companies carrying artist ..selling their work is not really associated with fascism..lol

[Mistagamebrain]

@L0stInDespair i never said it was, i was just saying that a true punk band would never conform with a record company, it defeats the idea

[LtLostAngel]

@Mistagamebrain: I firmly believe Anti-Flag signed a record deal just so that they could get their voice out and say what needs to be said. And MarchingTheBeat, I agree with you, what we need to is perform a black out clause like they did before in history we're students wore black clothing and voided the government and force the government to our control again, let not the man reign and become a tool, but use the tool against the man and conform the world to our image and liking

[Mistagamebrain]

@LtLostAngel i hear you man, i love the band, and if they didnt have the record deal we would just be voiceless kids

[Mistagamebrain]

@kogaKageOokami Thank you for not being a fucking idiot, punk music is good, but its a fucking joke many are too blind to realize

[mattlawsonboy]

they still do a kick ass show thats for fucking sure, there not one of thoes bands that always plays their new shit they always put on a damn good performance since the first time I saw them at the rock against bush in 04.

[mattlawsonboy]

They still do what they like to do and that is play music and speak of the problems with our country. If anything its great that they made a style of music that is more mainstream so more people can listen to what they are saying and get a chance to listen to some really good music that they wrote. Im not saying go out and buy the new album cause I def wouldnt do that but out of any band that people say sold out anti flag should def not be one. Fuck man Id love to be in their position stop hatin

[mattlawsonboy]

Dude fuck you man, fuck man why the fuck does it even matter? Im sorry but I would not want to make the same music for my entire life!! writing the same style of music forever is gay man its nice to have a change and even tho I do not like anti-flags new stuff it doesnt mean that people still dont appreciate it for what it is. They still try to fight for what they feel is right and they still donate alot of their profits to charitys! Fuck you for saying they sold out you fucking poser!

[TANZANIA999]

Stop bitching about selling out. So they made some shitty stuff and were paid to do it. Are you saying you wouldn't "sell out" if it meant enough money to keep yourself and the people you love stable? You would rather fucking die or be evicted from your house? Probably not. If they can't even afford to make music, how are they gonna get back to making good stuff?

[uranerdlol]

The sad truth is they sold they fuck out, however, there are many old classics. If you're one of those idiots thinking that they didn't sell out you're sadly mistaken.

[WTFhahaDude]

Masterpiece!!!! Suppport underage drinking!!!! ;)

[hmnai]

Best album by far!

[amadeumc]

nem acredito que daqui a umas horas vou estar nesse show mano. Qtos anos esperei por isso. QUE FODA !

[The420shredhead]

@umbora Why don't you throw punches like a real man? Cant fight? Thats ok, i know.

Go join the army tough guy, get your head shot off.

Just remember - dont ask, dont tell.

[umbora]

@The420shredhead throw punches online?? ahaha and u call your self a real man. dont cry lib

[mrdedkow]

to think that only rich conservative men own all media is ignorant. there is plenty of free media out there, your just not mentally capable of finding it. besides bitching gets you know where. step up be a man and fight your battles, if you want a bitch session get yourself a counselor.

[raydarkness]

crybabies



[blazed12many]

take a look around its already here . . .

[usux91]

Violence solves the shit that bitches like you don't finish lolz

[RogueSareth]

Man I remember back when Anti-Flag didn't suck. This album was so awesome T.T

[The420shredhead]

@RogueSareth yea man, they are fucking lame now holy shit dude.

[RogueSareth]

@The420shredhead I mostly blame it on them not taking a break from touring since like '98, they're running out of material ( and probably getting sick of each other )

[kitsosful]

Just take a look around the world and you’ll find that nearly all mass media are owned and controlled by a handful of conservative capitalists.We must devise and implement alternative methods of distributing our news, our information, our ideas -- people united worldwide to take a stand, to tell the truth!

[jambo9203]

@kitsosful do you know who there are though ?

[bucketsaremyfriend]

man, corn, that shit tastes so good. add that shit to yer burrito, the beef kind, it tastes SO GOOD. TRY IT! hahhaa... anti flag. what i said.

[amadeumc]

É O QUE SOMOS E SEMPRE SEREMOS. IS WHAT WE ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

[wolflok0]

wow...good...

[IdeologyWar]

 Two words: The Internet

[V2GO1]

This band kick's ass, but however all you people have very interesting views but I can say this; you are deeply lost my friend's. I don't want to argue but politics is nothing but a fake story; and it's control by an elite known as The Illuminati they control everything and also politics so we can fight like this. Don't believe me look it up. It's a spiritual battle between good and evil and our Lord Jesus Christ is coming to stop this. Look it up and I will be glad to elaborate. take care ppl.

[choconibletbeans]

@V2GO1 the new world orders almost here

[sirmichaeloftherocks]

How bout you all shutup about fucking labels, left, right, theres not a fucking difference these days, Just listen to the music.

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@sirmichaeloftherocks Yep that is exactly what Anti-Flag wants; a bunch of fans who only listen because the music sounds good.

[MolsonEx88]

@CrackCityRocker1211 lol well no but they don't want them arguing "here" either. stop complaining and go out and do something.

[The420shredhead]

@CrackCityRocker1211 Sure you may be right about that, but honestly why do you think the NWO is allowed to barrel forward during both administrations? If it were up to me id pull of both those damn wings and drown the centre in the birdbath. It's just a false Hegelian dialectic to produce the illusion of democracy, the military industrial complex calls the shots and they shot JFK for spilling the beans. It's too bad people still give a fuck about left and right to much care about the truth.

[RogueSareth]

@CrackCityRocker1211 Actually I'm pretty sure all AF wants these days is money :I

[MrDerSozialist]

@RogueSareth Blasphemy , cant you see the conviction in their lyrics ? If they were in for money they would sing something else , censor themself , and get more corporate sponsor , damm retard , do you think before you write something ?. Its like saying that Immortal Technique is in for the money........

[RogueSareth]

@MrDerSozialist I'm not saying Underground Network. Note I said "these days" have you heard their new album? Its full of every punk cliche you could think of, the ones only 15 year olds take seriously. I'm not saying they're bad people, i've met them before, they're all pretty cool, but the only one who seems to really be in it for the music is #2.

Also I know the bands merch dude, hes the lead singer of the band my boyfriend is in, I've heard tour stories, I've heard from people who know them.

[MrDerSozialist]

@CrackCityRocker1211 WTF ? There is way more than only music in their music! They are the voice of a generation who dont agree. They speak for us who dont have a voice! That`s what punk music is all about , the message not the music itself. A powerfull message make a powerfull punk masterpiece like this one!

[lux395]

@MrDerSozialist (about your message to CrackCityRocker1211) try to look up the word irony on a dictionary ;)

[MrDerSozialist]

@lux395 English isnt my first language , hard for me to understand a sarcasm. But yeah I do know the whats irony mean :P But sarcasm would suit better the affirmation of the previous ;P

[lux395]

@MrDerSozialist yeah, i'm not native either, so right now i'm pretending not to know the difference between irony and sarcasm ;)

[MrDerSozialist]

@lux395 I dont even live in the States :P , But I`m a native in Quebec French Speaking territory. Same probleme than the states since the Canadien governement bend over to suit the American imperialism. Same life style . Same shit , Same culture .... anyway

[toefte]

Anarchism was founded as a socialist movement with similar trades like marx theory. the founder was a russian called michail bakunin. So please study history and then speak.

[Rachael8590]

the funny thing is..... they are anti government but are activists for extreme left groups like Greenpeace and a few other progressive/ marxist leftist groups. To be an anarchist is to be far right. (i.e. far left total government... far right no government.) I love Anti Flag's music but I think they should get their politics straight. I wish I hadn't read their wikipedia page. diaspointed.

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@Rachael8590 Actually you have your politics wrong anarchism is a far left ideology. Far left is not total government, far right the government controls your life. Fascism, authoritarianism they are considered the right wing ideology's. Far right governments control your life from cradle to the grave. Supremacism is a deeply rooted in right wing politics. The right wing uses class systems and completely reject the idea of social equality. I don't know who told you about the political spectrum

[Rachael8590]

@CrackCityRocker1211 you are nutz! you described the Democratic narrative and passed it off as being Rpublican. Get a clue. Tell me, which side of the spectrum was Stalin, Mussolini, Marx, Trotsky, Hitler were on. That's right...the left.

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@Rachael8590 Stalin Authoritarian left wing. Karl Marx, left wing his ideology was Marxism, Trotsky left wing his ideology was Trotskyism. Marxists and Trotskyist called Stalinists grave diggers. They hated Stalin, in fact Stalin had Leon Trotsky killed for opposing him. Hitler was fascist, right wing Authoritarian. Mussolini and his black shirts were fascists also. Anarchists fight the class war, communists and Trotskyist's fight the class war. Right wing fights for the class systems.

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@Rachael8590 On a completely different note are you an idiot? The Democrats also fall on the right side of the political spectrum also they just aren't bat shit insane right wing fanatics. Do you think Obama is a socialist? Just out of curiosity.

[Rachael8590]

@CrackCityRocker1211 no I actually believe he is a Marxist...... but really what's the difference in the end.........people usually end up dying either way.

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@Rachael8590 The difference is, you are calling a right leaning moderate a Marxist. If you wish to prevent dying you must first learn the facts. You want Anti-Flag to get their politics straight when you have yet to grasp the basic understanding of the political spectrum. When you finally understand the music, the politics and meanings I am sure Anti-Flag would be glad to call you a fan.

[Rachael8590]

@CrackCityRocker1211 no I actually believe he is a Marxist...... but really what's the difference in the end.........people usually end up dying either way.

[musicnate28109]

@CrackCityRocker1211 ok getting into a political argument is stupid enough but on youtube you guys are just hopeless

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@musicnate28109 Yes of course, Anti-Flag would never want anyone to think or argue about politics. That is why they only do covers of classic 80's song. For the record their cover of "Hungry Like The Wolf" is fucking amazing. I recommend it.

[lordmesha]

@CrackCityRocker1211 socialist hell no just an other capitalist ruler who is helping to fuck up the world

[CrackCityRocker1211]

@Rachael8590 but the person who taught you about it told you a bunch of bullshit. Go google anarchism if you don't believe me I am 99.99999999999% sure it will tell you left wing ideology.

[norevelation]

AF is the catalyst that waged my life as it is today. I have found that this band is a perfect stepping stone into an elliptical world. It is solely up to that individual to dig beyond and find Truth as it is, and always will be. Ignorance is merely the fence that pens in the sheep... Our shepherd would look to keep us ignorant as he leads us blindly to slaughter, but all of us sheep have the ability to break off and become the black sheep of the flock. Who will determine your fate?

[michaelheathyguy]

where's teh alternative workent?

[MrElectro27]

IT HAPPEDS LIKE THIS!!!!! JUSTIN SANE

[jeanclaudevandamne]

one word : LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE­ !!!

[omid11]

holy shit these guys suck

[yeahcoolbeans]

100% of anti-flags songs are about are about or government screwing us over and are 100% true.

[pathofthehood]

this is decent but meanwhile city is well better,

[Killerguitarpro89]

Kill cops? your a fucking tard if your taking anti-flags messeges as telling you to go kill cops than your retarted, learn to understand lyrics

[Fishfliphatsock]

you know it probably is, right?

[modernman12345]

No FUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[CommunistPunker]

Fighters against capitalism! I like them!

[292lift]

i feel bad for people who like the government,its not gonna help them in any way

[dnoiz1]

fucking shithouse

[xxpitcrew207xx]

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT KILL COPS

[VladTheInhailer]

nihilism at its finest

[AliLaurel]

I dont understand how this song is nihilist. please elaborate.

[TheatreKit]

Nihilism can include an array of revolutionary activity. Protest songs count. Try looking the word up... it would help.

[TheatreKit]

There's a difference between nihilism and a sense of hopelessness.

[jabsco23]

no donny these men are nihilists, theres nothing to be afraid of

[Mattivinegar]

next 15.8!

[punkrocker828]

im going to see them live in agst! its going to be fucking awsome!!!

[Randy1337]

true shit!!!

[MasterBORRACHO]

This is one of the classics