Listen to the original recording the bass bone playing those pedals played them with balls. It looks like you had a tuba player do them. That's just wrong. Give the guy a bass bone. Bass bone > Tuba.
And you're playing the lead bone part down an octave. WTF!?!
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Fabulous! Don't pay any attention to the nitpickers and complainers. This was very well done and entertaining. I was smiling all the way through. I enjoyed it.
the only good thing in this vid is the squeak on the bari sax in the begining! ( i know it wasnt a Real Squeak its what i call it) nice altissimo hit thought!
good job for the most part, but i don't know about the faster tempo.
in general moanin' is more of a combo tune, not a big band tune (that would be like if a quintet played Sing Sing Sing, it wouldn't work) and should be played a bit slower.
great song , i love how you made your own beggining solo istead of taking mingus's , the two sqweeks were a lil wierd but original ;P , but you shoulda slowed down abit haha , but other than that good job , i'm playing this at school too , don't listen to the hate comments because most of them are from people that aren't that great musicians and prefer just to find the defects in others , other than looking at themselfs
it needs to be slower it sounds as if you were pushed for time and had to fit it in because the piece should last 10 minutes if played like it should be but very good impressive
Wow. Incredible. Amazing. As a future music teacher (3 more years, god willing), these are the kids that I would consider family. Just wow. So much talent interspersed with child-like innocence from what I assume are high school students is nothing short of inspiring. These kids are amazing and I hope that these are the musicians of tomorrow. Amazing!
bah no offense, but i really didnt like the interpretation in this video. First of all.....waaaaaayyyyy too fast, its a fast toon but this sounds out of control. The fast pace of this song really didnt fit with the slow improv by the bari player before he started playing.
the alto player girl with the solo, i loved it, you were great!
Also... i really liked the bari player on the left with your use of the growl. awesome!
lol yeaaa this is nothing special. I mean, whoever thought of dueling bari saxes probably thought it was a good idea to speed this up to i-really-gotta-piss-and-im-trapped-in-a-box speed. The alto solo was pretty kick ass, im not gonna lie, but the articulation was off. it felt like she was behind a count, even though im sure thats not possible in improv :) The bari player soling in the beginning sounds awesome btw
haha , my Bigband at school ploays it WAYY better , i'm not saying these guys suck , but the begining solo wasin't even jazz at all lol , and these bari players sometimes cut off to breathe ... and in case you were gona ask , yes i think i play the bari better lol
I'll just be honest, I didn't like this at all. I not saying that I could perform it amazingly, but I have played this and I don't like this version at all. Its soo cheesy, its like when a jazz band goes to some comp wearing hats and sunglasses in the dark auditorium. Too much cheese for me.
ehh not too crazy about the sound comng from the band bt nice try lol.when i get a video of the Dillard band playing it ill post it so that i can show you how its supposed to sound.
Nice tune selection but Where's the fire? Too fast! It's got to be dirty not muddy and if you are going to steal a lick for your solo go with art pepper not kc and the sunshine band. that was a little cheap.
I think one of the hardest things you can do as a Jazz Bass player is take a Charles Mingus tune and take it up tempo, I think the only thing harder would be taking a Rush song up tempo.
Good performance, and as he said earlier, don't ever squeel like that again, and make sure that the low Bb in the theme is short, heavy, and try thinking of a nice dut syllable.
man, that screech at :33 ish was dead awful. dont do that,ever >_>"
And, I think you shouldnt have put a line or 2 from play that funky music in there. didnt fit the song =\
and, the alto did a much better job than both soloing. The bari on the left wasnt too bad either. To the other bari, listen to more recordings and steal lines form there ;p. This is a charles mingus tune! he avidly smoked weed, its suppose to be like...outa control-ish. and stay away from bop songs, the suck ass ;p
for the detractors: please post the url to YOUR video ;)
for the band: I liked this one best because it doesn't try to be Mingus or Mingus++, the band just tries to be who they are, doing it their way, and that is what Jazz is all about.
and the joy you express is infectious.
As Gene Krupa said, "If we're gonna die out there, Benny, let's die doin' our OWN stuff."
the little prelude where you kept playing play that funky music white boy could have used a little work. It's good to have fun while you're playing, but you can do that without satirizing the song. Moanin is hands down my favorite song to play as a bari player, i think you could do without that at the beginning
i play bari and i loved you two both of you have a pretty phat sound. the thing that killed this for me though was the tempo and the backgrounds werent together in the unison parts.and they were obnoxious at times otherwise great job
just aggressive enough for mingus, but not grinding on the ears. my fave part of the origional song is after the alto solo when they take it in double time
A smart move. I switched in Middle school- it is a much more substantial return on your practicing. The richness and the satisfaction of carrying almost every song was enough of a reason for me. Good luck!
I have been forced to do the reverse... from Bari to Alto because of University... I don't like it nearly as much and live for every moment i get to play my bari
true, but the piece is meant to have fun, which means play it like you want it, plus a bari sound really comes out when it get's down and dirty, i would know cause i play bari.
eh... i've played both for 5 years now and i prefer bari. low A is an amazing advantage bari has over alto, and if you use the argument "if you put the bell of an alto to a stand, you can get low A" then i can use the same argument and say that i can get very close to a low G with a loose embouchure and a mouthpiece pulled really far out. i hope we play this song next year in jazz band btw.
I made what I affectionately refer to as the G cone... it was a large paper cone i stuck in the bell, and trimmed until the G was perfectly tuned to 440
im not trying to be mean this is just what i think:
its too fast... nice job on the bari sax this is my favorite jazz song and i play bari sax but it sounds better slower it just sounds like a bunch of people playin random things other than the bari sax
sorry to be such a critic, but its way too fast to actually be enjoyed. it just sounds like a bunch of dying elephants. sorry again, but u can't really hear anyone except the muffled trumpets and a bari sax with horrible tone issues.
this is awesome....i am the only bari player at my school, ive been playing for almost 6 years....and i have been trying to get my director to get this piece for our jazz band...its awesome and i think it would such a privledge to get to play this song....i love it. great job guys
oh, hm i never got to try otto link metal mouth pieces, im trying the vandoren ZZ reeds at the moment, theyre nice! have you tried any berg larsen mouth pieces? jw where is your school located?
I tried Berg larsen too... but I found it way too bright. I am quite a "powerful" player, and with the brightness of the berg larsen I was afraid that i would blow the band away :P
I don't know about Dave, at that time i was using a rousseau jazz (hard rubber) w/vandoren (original) reeds. I have since changed both to Otto Link (metal) and Vandoren ZZ reeds
i must say, good sound from the bari on the right hand side, hm their tone is quite noticeably different from their saxes and please, the altissimo note sounds... ew not that great. but good warm, sound from the bari. have you heard pepper adam's sound in the original recording? the last part of the bari lic is fat, not long or short... i play bari myself personally and both of you sound great, the altissimo you could make it warmer, and its a bit sqeaky more then a "moanin" sound?
Wow. I sure am proud of you guys. Ha. Bari saxes don't get the recognition they deserve. I've only seen one bari sax solo in the last 4 regional marching contests, yet I've seen about 20 thousand trumpet solos. But really, don't give up on that bari sax, man. From one bari sax to another, keep it up.
Thanks for defending my honour Alexei, ha, but Mr. "start playing jazz and stop pressing buttons," can honestly bite me. If he wants to continue photocopying the "greats" with their 6ths (big f*ing whoop, try a maj7(#11) some time) then he can go and do that. I'll continue to play how I do and no amount of commenting from over-critical creativity-repressing egotards over the internet will change me.
is you mean later on the left... when it is solo.... I lagged on purpose just to mess it up a little... maybe not the most stylistically popular move but it's all part of the learning process...
opps i meant left, yeah thats not the smartest move to do in jazz, almost everyone will notice that one player is better than the other, but its a good performance you guys put out. I personally wouldn't do it for your next performance. Good recording always strive to get better at what you do.
nice job guys...i play alto, tenor, and bari...u did a good job on it...u might wonna try "take the A train" or "a night in tunisha"...those are always fun no matter what...bari sax is one of the coolest instruments to play...definitly try the pink panther lol
How do not use a harness!? I've played bari sax for four years and I still can't manage not using a harness. But that may be because I'm a five foot tall girl. Anyways, good job!
nice job guys....anyone here have the sheet music for that? I play alto, tenor and bari sax.....and me and my high school jazz band wonna do that...so if u know where da music is...please send .....thanks
the lead trumpet is not just "pressing button". The video lags. If you don't believe me, watch the drums, he's not just "flailing sticks". It's all a little bit behind, so you cant match the figures with the noise.
Secondly, it's up to the soloist to choose which scale he would like to choose to put his artistic impression on the song. You don't need a "6th" to make it sound cool, you can do whatever you want. That's one of the beauties of music.
let me ask you if you have ever heard miles davis, wayne shorter, gerry mulligan, and any other professional jazz artist stick to a blues scale the whole time when the changes are obviously minor chords. if ur answer is yes then ur an idiot. jazz was set up by the greats and trying to play like the greats is how you make progress. not stick to blues scales. plus, wut the trumpet is playing doesn't really appeal to the ear and i hear some wrong notes in there so he is "pressing buttons"
wow...trying to play like the greats is progress...isn't that a hellish paradox. If we all tried to play like the greats before us, we would get nowhere. We wouldnt even have Jazz. You can surely imitate, but thats not progress. It's the innovators that are making progress...and keep in mind that the greats of today were the innovators of yesterday. And what appeals to your ear is personal, making your accusation of "pressing buttons" unfair.
thats ridiculous. Every jazz innovator has taken and imitated the greats and continue to do so today. joshua redman, michael brecker, and bob mintzer are all imitating the things set up by coltrane and stitts back from the 60's. its not like their ideas have no foundation and got lucky to play jazz. plus making the accusation of pressing buttons is completely fair seeing as how wrong notes are played every other note, making it seem like the horn player doesn't know wut he's doing
I have to agree with this guy. Brecker and Mintzer started by imitating and once they could do that they did their own stuff and have totally unique and wonderful sounds. Even the great Louis Armstrong imitated his idol Joe "king" Oliver. Just like like Mingus imitated Oscar Petiford. The point is that once you've mastered the style of the greats ,and know your jazz theory, is when you can start to really have and develope your own sound. It's just tough critisism sorry.
Flashback to my highschool.... we did the EXACT same thing... except without the dumb sqeaks... playing moanin waaayy too fast with a big band of like 50 kids... it was lame then, just like its lame now...
Not too bad for a HS band. I was pretty offended by the bari on the right (i.e. squeak and cheesy Wild Cherry lick). Cool idea with the two baris...I'm not too sure how Mingus would have felt about it...
I play bari sax too, in marching and symphony band. It's amazing. And anyone who comments badly on this video can go try and play that on the bari sax themselves. Not too easy, is it? They're in highschool at the oldest. Cut them some slack. They sound amazing for a high school level band. Of course they aren't going sound like professionals!! Lighten up!
Awesome stuff. I like the speed, it may be a bit rough around the edges but it kinda works with moanin'. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves too which is great :), Your double bass player is quality too to be able to hold the speed, nice one.
My college's jazz combo adapted this for our own purposes a few years back. As the Bari player it amused me greatly when the person doing lighting for our performance chose lighting for a much more soulful song than we ended up playing.
And if you ask me, most of the 'bad' that this recording presents is due to the recording itself. You can only expect so much fidelity from a personal video camera.
Oh...and no--it's NOT perfect. You're kids. You're still learning. But my hat's off to any school band that tackles it, and it's actually pretty good--and, more importantly, PROMISING. And props for throwing in the "Black Magic Woman" quote.
Hey, I know how it goes. I don't play but I had a lot of friends who did, and our hs jazz band played all over the country and won all kinds of awards. I saw the first performance given by the first rough incarnation of that band, with minimal skill and the same few tired charts over and over, and I saw it grow over the years into something incredible and professional-quality. These naysayers don't have the first clue.
I can't believe how many people on this site would be so unabashedly harsh and cruel regarding a performance by CHILDREN. I like to think I know a little bit about jazz (and if you knew me you'd know that was a hilarious understatement) and I actually think Mingus would be amused by the tempo here (and further I think he'd be pleased that kids are even ATTEMPTING his stuff).
its moanin' its supposed to be jumbled besides its just a highschool how good do you expect. ok the bari's can't improvise fast enough to solo on this tune but its a fast tune for a high school band.
I liked the first part - with just the two baris - but when everyone joined in it just seemed really jumbled. But I think the baris were pretty good, I'm happy to see baris having the melody - especially two!
this is shot with an old video camera that was put into digital form. obviously the quality isn't great, I was there, they were awesome, they gave me shivers. That doesn't happen often. When was the last time you played this song?
My dad shot this footage. The camera was not old. It's not new but it's not "old". It was shot on a GL2 and the mic was a shotgun mic (not sure which make). The problem is the compression to a .mov file and then onto YouTube. As for the sound you can blame a Gym for that. The acoustics in that room are absolutely DREADFUL.
0:49 mass eargasm
drewcox010101 4 months ago
what metal mouthpiece are you playing on?
Bari603x 4 months ago
I'm sorry but the bone section disappointed me :(
Listen to the original recording the bass bone playing those pedals played them with balls. It looks like you had a tuba player do them. That's just wrong. Give the guy a bass bone. Bass bone > Tuba.
And you're playing the lead bone part down an octave. WTF!?!
ChuCkyKiLLER001 7 months ago
We played this last year. This song is sick!
skateboardinguitaris 8 months ago
who shouted YYEAAA at 3:50 ? lmao
rf1308 8 months ago
BARI SAX IS THE F**KING BEST I LOVE PLAYING BARI
MrMuz1cman 8 months ago
props to the bass player, the tempo was WAY too fast, look how hard he was working! (1:34)
i bet he lost about 5lbs during this performance
karatekween33 9 months ago
the best person is the bass player!
itsphamyo 9 months ago
haha.. If you press "6" on your keybored over, and over, and over, while this is playing, its sounds like a train. (:
MonkeyNutProductions 10 months ago
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mylaobary 10 months ago
uma porc\ria uma merda isto aiiiiiiiiii que bosta som amadorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
mylaobary 10 months ago
haha that was awesome i play bari and 4 me this is like the best song ever. i love the funky music at the beginning
w000t1994 1 year ago
these guys are pretty good. but the Mira Costa High School Jazz Band plays it better. check them out
TrivBeats 1 year ago
wi im learnin to play moanin on the bari
cowmaster321 1 year ago
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I play Bari, and I'm not saying I could do this better, but maybe the gaps in the beginning solo should be a little closer, but over all, good.
Failedreallyhard 1 year ago
It's pretty tough playing Mingus in a school band. But those guys and girls did a real good job, I think. Like the ovetones in the beginning :D
FunkySkunk90 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!! Belmont Jazz Band "A"
kalacsg 1 year ago
Great solo!!! Really liked it
can you send a sheet??
kalacsg 1 year ago
Fabulous! Don't pay any attention to the nitpickers and complainers. This was very well done and entertaining. I was smiling all the way through. I enjoyed it.
platinumplusenter 1 year ago
play that funky music white boy?
CheerMajorette 1 year ago
the only good thing in this vid is the squeak on the bari sax in the begining! ( i know it wasnt a Real Squeak its what i call it) nice altissimo hit thought!
staros97400 2 years ago
THIS IS AWESOME! Those bari players know where it's at.
meeshalien 2 years ago 2
what scale do you improvise on if you do
dsaxman72 2 years ago
Nice soundin =]
Just my opinion, the director should not be up in front doing cues and stuff at the beginning. Let the kids get going, but still deffinetly not bad
bharvey2010 3 years ago 8
whoever said "say what" should just leave
boogster123321 3 years ago 27
@boogster123321 LOL
TripleOctaveMusic 3 months ago
good job for the most part, but i don't know about the faster tempo.
in general moanin' is more of a combo tune, not a big band tune (that would be like if a quintet played Sing Sing Sing, it wouldn't work) and should be played a bit slower.
msammas 3 years ago
great song , i love how you made your own beggining solo istead of taking mingus's , the two sqweeks were a lil wierd but original ;P , but you shoulda slowed down abit haha , but other than that good job , i'm playing this at school too , don't listen to the hate comments because most of them are from people that aren't that great musicians and prefer just to find the defects in others , other than looking at themselfs
good job
JayyRod 3 years ago 2
it needs to be slower it sounds as if you were pushed for time and had to fit it in because the piece should last 10 minutes if played like it should be but very good impressive
andt5893 3 years ago
My schools jazz band does it and weve got the best bari sax player ive ever seen in a high school band
Vmkfanatic 3 years ago
hahaha, these guys are young, how can anyone expect them to know much about copying the style of someone as refined as mingus?
southbayv1 3 years ago
Wow. Incredible. Amazing. As a future music teacher (3 more years, god willing), these are the kids that I would consider family. Just wow. So much talent interspersed with child-like innocence from what I assume are high school students is nothing short of inspiring. These kids are amazing and I hope that these are the musicians of tomorrow. Amazing!
LokIArioch 3 years ago
You guys seem to have forgotten the fact that this is school christmas concert
jazz bofs can leave it home
this was probably full of parents and grandparents who are happy just to see their kids playing and having fun
i'm gonna say good job
my school swingband did a version of mingus's boogie stop shuffle and it was great fun
i can say i enjoyed this honestly
just don't like reading the negative comments
Inzehambay 3 years ago
bah no offense, but i really didnt like the interpretation in this video. First of all.....waaaaaayyyyy too fast, its a fast toon but this sounds out of control. The fast pace of this song really didnt fit with the slow improv by the bari player before he started playing.
the alto player girl with the solo, i loved it, you were great!
Also... i really liked the bari player on the left with your use of the growl. awesome!
SOhio142 3 years ago 3
lol yeaaa this is nothing special. I mean, whoever thought of dueling bari saxes probably thought it was a good idea to speed this up to i-really-gotta-piss-and-im-trapped-in-a-box speed. The alto solo was pretty kick ass, im not gonna lie, but the articulation was off. it felt like she was behind a count, even though im sure thats not possible in improv :) The bari player soling in the beginning sounds awesome btw
Arcadeburner1 3 years ago
The tempo is kinda rushing good start love what you put in the cadenza. Think Intonation. Other wise you guys look like you had fun.
JazzChaz779 3 years ago
XD LOL!!! WHAT!!! SAY WHAT!! that was awesome! :D you guys rock
crackerpoppoodle 3 years ago
haha , my Bigband at school ploays it WAYY better , i'm not saying these guys suck , but the begining solo wasin't even jazz at all lol , and these bari players sometimes cut off to breathe ... and in case you were gona ask , yes i think i play the bari better lol
JayyRod 3 years ago
I'll just be honest, I didn't like this at all. I not saying that I could perform it amazingly, but I have played this and I don't like this version at all. Its soo cheesy, its like when a jazz band goes to some comp wearing hats and sunglasses in the dark auditorium. Too much cheese for me.
jazzmangiant 3 years ago 11
to the person who said the screech was awful. Hah, you know NOTHING about jazz.
go learn a thing or two.
xunholyxtragedyx 3 years ago
Wonderfully Spirited! Tis' my favorite YouTube cut of this awesome tune. Thanks for sharing.
hedleylemur 3 years ago
you guys have chops. nice sound.
StevieWazSaxMan 3 years ago
ehh not too crazy about the sound comng from the band bt nice try lol.when i get a video of the Dillard band playing it ill post it so that i can show you how its supposed to sound.
ss5thegr8 3 years ago
Nice tune selection but Where's the fire? Too fast! It's got to be dirty not muddy and if you are going to steal a lick for your solo go with art pepper not kc and the sunshine band. that was a little cheap.
rhumbaphone 3 years ago 2
Asian alto player who had a solo and the bassist sound like the classisest two players in this band...
Guitarist learn your chords so you can turn your volume up.
Jon00Wesley00Harding 3 years ago 2
this is amazing...god i started jamming at :51...he came outta no where and started the written solo
Caneinthehouse 3 years ago
I think one of the hardest things you can do as a Jazz Bass player is take a Charles Mingus tune and take it up tempo, I think the only thing harder would be taking a Rush song up tempo.
Good performance, and as he said earlier, don't ever squeel like that again, and make sure that the low Bb in the theme is short, heavy, and try thinking of a nice dut syllable.
But overall, nice performance
Shieksghost 3 years ago
Props to the upright guy in back.. Mingus is certainly no pushover when it comes to bass music
Nu11nV01D 3 years ago 2
this is one of my favorite jazz songs ever. you guys did a great job.
adaraaaa 3 years ago
man, that screech at :33 ish was dead awful. dont do that,ever >_>"
And, I think you shouldnt have put a line or 2 from play that funky music in there. didnt fit the song =\
and, the alto did a much better job than both soloing. The bari on the left wasnt too bad either. To the other bari, listen to more recordings and steal lines form there ;p. This is a charles mingus tune! he avidly smoked weed, its suppose to be like...outa control-ish. and stay away from bop songs, the suck ass ;p
ChoujiAkimichi 3 years ago
Mingus did not smoke weed!
What the hell is wrong with you?
bbbiggs 3 years ago 3
looks like the partridge family. decent job though.
xAnesthesiAx 3 years ago
sounds so rushed--i wouldve taken at least 15-25 beats slower
truthspeakr 3 years ago
for the detractors: please post the url to YOUR video ;)
for the band: I liked this one best because it doesn't try to be Mingus or Mingus++, the band just tries to be who they are, doing it their way, and that is what Jazz is all about.
and the joy you express is infectious.
As Gene Krupa said, "If we're gonna die out there, Benny, let's die doin' our OWN stuff."
teledyn 3 years ago
the little prelude where you kept playing play that funky music white boy could have used a little work. It's good to have fun while you're playing, but you can do that without satirizing the song. Moanin is hands down my favorite song to play as a bari player, i think you could do without that at the beginning
impaaaaact 3 years ago
i play bari and i loved you two both of you have a pretty phat sound. the thing that killed this for me though was the tempo and the backgrounds werent together in the unison parts.and they were obnoxious at times otherwise great job
kulacgizmo 3 years ago
personally i thought the bari's tone was perfect.
just aggressive enough for mingus, but not grinding on the ears. my fave part of the origional song is after the alto solo when they take it in double time
you guys sounded great
jazzmanbob1 3 years ago
the bari's need to work on the tone a bit more. plus your rushing on your part.
i play bari, we played this song and it sounded waaay better not to be mean.
epanchenko 3 years ago
Little bit too fast, the bari sounds great though :)
m0u53m4t 3 years ago
owch man! alto is fun to play, but i just love the bari...its the bomb...ever tried the tenor? its fun for blues and jazz.
alto is great for swing and med. stuff like "take five" or songs like that.
penndude92 3 years ago
you guys need to slow down!!!
only thing i like is bari's tone...
roxas1098 3 years ago
nic song bari saxes are the bomb keep it up
shookietheif 3 years ago
Too fast.... It breaks the feeling.
Sorry I don't like it.
hiperverso 3 years ago
hey we just got this song in jazz ensemble and im the only one whos takin the solo (alto)
what do u suggest i do when playing this song to make it as good as possible?
live4ledzep 3 years ago
stop biting your reed. its not altissimo
saywhat2129 3 years ago 38
you guys rock!
WilbertVereAwdry 3 years ago
im thinkin about switchen from alto to bary any sugestions
fmenz30 3 years ago 6
A smart move. I switched in Middle school- it is a much more substantial return on your practicing. The richness and the satisfaction of carrying almost every song was enough of a reason for me. Good luck!
reflectivegoat 3 years ago
hell yes do it i did it 3 years ago. bari is so much better than that squeaky alto trust me...you wont regret it
KTMownage 3 years ago
I have been forced to do the reverse... from Bari to Alto because of University... I don't like it nearly as much and live for every moment i get to play my bari
barisaxbrad 3 years ago 3
@fmenz30 I played alto and tried bari and i love it so much, def give bari a shot
TheDrewby66 3 weeks ago
anyone know the time signature to this piece?
m1ndl3sar0undme 3 years ago
its just common time
83WC 3 years ago
its common time but its conducted in 2/4 time
xxBAMFxx3 3 years ago
I originally play alto sax. But this year our jazz conductor is giving me the opportunity to play bari. It will be a good experience.
amorrizzle648 3 years ago
shoulda had the alto chick play the bari part, she wouldve beasted... on the guy with bad tone xD!
Arturo12 3 years ago 2
the bari's need to work on the tone a bit more. plus your rushing on your part.
i play bari, we played this song and it sounded waaay better not to be mean.
epanchenko 3 years ago
true, but the piece is meant to have fun, which means play it like you want it, plus a bari sound really comes out when it get's down and dirty, i would know cause i play bari.
starrb77 3 years ago
the bari sounded really but the alto rules! Go alto sax!!!!!
vgraydon 3 years ago
eh... i've played both for 5 years now and i prefer bari. low A is an amazing advantage bari has over alto, and if you use the argument "if you put the bell of an alto to a stand, you can get low A" then i can use the same argument and say that i can get very close to a low G with a loose embouchure and a mouthpiece pulled really far out. i hope we play this song next year in jazz band btw.
cdwills12 3 years ago
I have gotten a low G out of a low A bari before it sounds really weird
IronOutlaw36 3 years ago
It doesn't sound weird if you tune it! :)
I made what I affectionately refer to as the G cone... it was a large paper cone i stuck in the bell, and trimmed until the G was perfectly tuned to 440
It was awesome!
barisaxbrad 3 years ago
I just stuck a shirt over the bell so i could get one out... I didnt need it in tune :P
IronOutlaw36 3 years ago
good job...do u know where to get that sheet music? my jazz band wants to do it,
penndude92 3 years ago
I remember that... wow it seems like forever ago...
Pinkflame15 3 years ago
The intro was gay, nice bari sound though.
ReggaesRockers 3 years ago 3
go bari saxes!
claireedelune 3 years ago
i play bari i dont want to sound stupid but the intro to me kinda sounded like play that funky music
SaxMan0102 3 years ago
precisely what it was...
barisaxbrad 3 years ago
im not trying to be mean this is just what i think:
its too fast... nice job on the bari sax this is my favorite jazz song and i play bari sax but it sounds better slower it just sounds like a bunch of people playin random things other than the bari sax
cmalh 3 years ago 3
sorry to be such a critic, but its way too fast to actually be enjoyed. it just sounds like a bunch of dying elephants. sorry again, but u can't really hear anyone except the muffled trumpets and a bari sax with horrible tone issues.
crunchyboy05 3 years ago 3
this is awesome....i am the only bari player at my school, ive been playing for almost 6 years....and i have been trying to get my director to get this piece for our jazz band...its awesome and i think it would such a privledge to get to play this song....i love it. great job guys
OhLaLaItsLindsey 3 years ago
far too fast. it was obvious on the intro
happeedayz 4 years ago
oh, hm i never got to try otto link metal mouth pieces, im trying the vandoren ZZ reeds at the moment, theyre nice! have you tried any berg larsen mouth pieces? jw where is your school located?
m1ndl3sar0undme 4 years ago
I tried Berg larsen too... but I found it way too bright. I am quite a "powerful" player, and with the brightness of the berg larsen I was afraid that i would blow the band away :P
We are in Victoria BC, Canada.
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
ooooo..i love my Berg Larsen
Teboner92 4 years ago
(continuing) but the intonation between the baris and the style needs to be similar. but by themselfs, good shit =]
btw what mouth piece do you guys use and reeds do you use?
m1ndl3sar0undme 4 years ago
I don't know about Dave, at that time i was using a rousseau jazz (hard rubber) w/vandoren (original) reeds. I have since changed both to Otto Link (metal) and Vandoren ZZ reeds
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
i must say, good sound from the bari on the right hand side, hm their tone is quite noticeably different from their saxes and please, the altissimo note sounds... ew not that great. but good warm, sound from the bari. have you heard pepper adam's sound in the original recording? the last part of the bari lic is fat, not long or short... i play bari myself personally and both of you sound great, the altissimo you could make it warmer, and its a bit sqeaky more then a "moanin" sound?
m1ndl3sar0undme 4 years ago
i liked it, but it coulda gone slower, but hey real jazz is always at ur own tempo so i shouldnt talk
KiNgJaBlEz 4 years ago
asians on saxes kick ass. (i'm chinese and i play bari)
Tommo108 4 years ago
Wow. I sure am proud of you guys. Ha. Bari saxes don't get the recognition they deserve. I've only seen one bari sax solo in the last 4 regional marching contests, yet I've seen about 20 thousand trumpet solos. But really, don't give up on that bari sax, man. From one bari sax to another, keep it up.
mrpokieskacore 4 years ago
Yikes... That was pretty brutal. Might I suggest more black people and heroin next time?
Jon00Wesley00Harding 4 years ago
LOL, fuck that's funny, man oh man, kinda true
ReggaesRockers 4 years ago
Hello there..Mingus forever !
Please have a look at my Tribute/Video/Remix
of " MOANIN " and tell me if You like it !.
ciao ciao.
all the best to You !.
francesco.
cescocarpena 4 years ago
Thanks for defending my honour Alexei, ha, but Mr. "start playing jazz and stop pressing buttons," can honestly bite me. If he wants to continue photocopying the "greats" with their 6ths (big f*ing whoop, try a maj7(#11) some time) then he can go and do that. I'll continue to play how I do and no amount of commenting from over-critical creativity-repressing egotards over the internet will change me.
EquinoxParadox 4 years ago
by the way will... i love you as much as i hate you :P
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
Ha, I felt the need to reply so I made an account. If/when I get a webcam, I should impose a piece for Mr. "6ths are cool".
EquinoxParadox 4 years ago
one things is you guys should have just stuck with one bari player, i noticed that between the two of them one of them really lags on tone and tempo
Arturo12 4 years ago
i liked the dueling baris, but the player on the right could have toungued the notes better.
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
yeah he seems a little lazy there with his articulation, i play bari myself and i play this ear lol, but yeah i just think it lags
Arturo12 4 years ago
is you mean later on the left... when it is solo.... I lagged on purpose just to mess it up a little... maybe not the most stylistically popular move but it's all part of the learning process...
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
opps i meant left, yeah thats not the smartest move to do in jazz, almost everyone will notice that one player is better than the other, but its a good performance you guys put out. I personally wouldn't do it for your next performance. Good recording always strive to get better at what you do.
Arturo12 4 years ago
yeah i meant left, but why would you lag on purpose? not always a smart move in jazz, but ok job
its all a learning experience.
Arturo12 4 years ago
well... free jazz...
what more can be said :P
I have changed in both my ability and knowledge since last year... chances are I wouldn't make the same move again...
but what the heck?
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
its all a learning experience so you shouldn't trip too much,=P
good job though
ohh and sorry for the double post kinda thing my computer is laggin!
Arturo12 4 years ago
i play bari as well
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
nice job guys...i play alto, tenor, and bari...u did a good job on it...u might wonna try "take the A train" or "a night in tunisha"...those are always fun no matter what...bari sax is one of the coolest instruments to play...definitly try the pink panther lol
thestalecheesepuff 4 years ago
FUCK YEA
Conductor is sweet, string bass player is great, I play bari and it's the strongest instrument out there (UNDERRATED).
jonhuebnerlol 4 years ago
Bass trombone needs to watch his tuning at the beginning, and where's the big old pedal G-flat?
atrain118 4 years ago
fuck man! that was awesome!
jazzmanbob1 4 years ago
Lame start, Play that funky music?
I wanna hear a nice improv start.
jesussax7 4 years ago
i agree, but it sure does kick off after
tehjazzman 4 years ago
i play bari-sax
yodarocks11 4 years ago
How do not use a harness!? I've played bari sax for four years and I still can't manage not using a harness. But that may be because I'm a five foot tall girl. Anyways, good job!
alarasnowfeather 4 years ago
Haha, try playing without a harness or a neckstrap, that gets interesting. Good to see more people that play bari.
BariSaxy57 4 years ago
nice job guys....anyone here have the sheet music for that? I play alto, tenor and bari sax.....and me and my high school jazz band wonna do that...so if u know where da music is...please send .....thanks
penndude92 4 years ago
lead trumpet needs to play jazz and stop pressing buttons
and the bari sax needs to get the blues scales out of his head and play the 6th to make it sound cool
cornbreadlee 4 years ago
the lead trumpet is not just "pressing button". The video lags. If you don't believe me, watch the drums, he's not just "flailing sticks". It's all a little bit behind, so you cant match the figures with the noise.
Secondly, it's up to the soloist to choose which scale he would like to choose to put his artistic impression on the song. You don't need a "6th" to make it sound cool, you can do whatever you want. That's one of the beauties of music.
alexeipaish 4 years ago
let me ask you if you have ever heard miles davis, wayne shorter, gerry mulligan, and any other professional jazz artist stick to a blues scale the whole time when the changes are obviously minor chords. if ur answer is yes then ur an idiot. jazz was set up by the greats and trying to play like the greats is how you make progress. not stick to blues scales. plus, wut the trumpet is playing doesn't really appeal to the ear and i hear some wrong notes in there so he is "pressing buttons"
cornbreadlee 4 years ago
this was meant fr replying down there
cornbreadlee 4 years ago
wow...trying to play like the greats is progress...isn't that a hellish paradox. If we all tried to play like the greats before us, we would get nowhere. We wouldnt even have Jazz. You can surely imitate, but thats not progress. It's the innovators that are making progress...and keep in mind that the greats of today were the innovators of yesterday. And what appeals to your ear is personal, making your accusation of "pressing buttons" unfair.
alexeipaish 4 years ago
thats ridiculous. Every jazz innovator has taken and imitated the greats and continue to do so today. joshua redman, michael brecker, and bob mintzer are all imitating the things set up by coltrane and stitts back from the 60's. its not like their ideas have no foundation and got lucky to play jazz. plus making the accusation of pressing buttons is completely fair seeing as how wrong notes are played every other note, making it seem like the horn player doesn't know wut he's doing
cornbreadlee 4 years ago
Obviously our opinions differ, and since it looks like neither of us are going to change our minds, we might as well stop arguing.
alexeipaish 4 years ago
I have to agree with this guy. Brecker and Mintzer started by imitating and once they could do that they did their own stuff and have totally unique and wonderful sounds. Even the great Louis Armstrong imitated his idol Joe "king" Oliver. Just like like Mingus imitated Oscar Petiford. The point is that once you've mastered the style of the greats ,and know your jazz theory, is when you can start to really have and develope your own sound. It's just tough critisism sorry.
parasyte89 4 years ago
pshw~ lead trumpet neads range :D
mecrob5000 4 years ago
play that funky music white boy!
Arturo12 4 years ago
Its kinda of hard to follow with out hearing the bari sax (which I play by the way) or hearing the stand up bass but its a very good song
Muriness1 4 years ago
say no to blues scales, the trumpets (only because there weren't any on the mingus recording), and
shorterfootprints 4 years ago 2
Flashback to my highschool.... we did the EXACT same thing... except without the dumb sqeaks... playing moanin waaayy too fast with a big band of like 50 kids... it was lame then, just like its lame now...
ZaDouche 4 years ago
lol... i guess your not called ZaDouche for nothing.
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
i think your right brad. i cant get enough of this version :P soon i will be playing a Yamaha YB-52 again!
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
I wish we could play this at my school!!!
Aimeix 4 years ago
so big deal, the bari players can play blues scales. AND?
rightboss 4 years ago 3
Not too bad for a HS band. I was pretty offended by the bari on the right (i.e. squeak and cheesy Wild Cherry lick). Cool idea with the two baris...I'm not too sure how Mingus would have felt about it...
SlyMongoose122 4 years ago 3
Real Bariist don't use a microphone!
TheBariist 4 years ago
lovin it :]
i too play bari and it's the best insrument ever (:
does anyone know where to get sheet music for this??
i'd love to play it!
baribabe66 4 years ago
loving the baris! being one myself
ADORING THE DOUBLE BASS!!!!!!! OMG i love that instrument
loving the band you guys are good!
i wish i had a school band that at least could do a full scale.. ya im basically the only one that understands music there soo
niggazrunnin 4 years ago
dang awesome solo i play bari my self
bari is the best
what kinda horn is that u play
brian62793 4 years ago
Dave plays a Selmer, I don't know which model,
And I play a Yamaha YBS-52
Damn Awesome Horns :)
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
ive been playin alto for 3 years and mines all crappy and broken but i can still play but dat band is just awesome
254948a 4 years ago
this is awesome! bari rox. ive been playing bari since 2004. im currently playing a martin bari. but soon may be playing yamaha, i want the yamaha!
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
Thats pretty cool, I have been playing bari for 6 years. I like the idea, you don't see bari's trading solos often. Nice!
posekye709 4 years ago
yes it is very nice... we got 3 baris at my school :P i want a 3 way bari solo
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
Sweet.
Veritas12Truth 4 years ago
I'm the drummer =D.
This was definetely a shoulder buster, but good times indeed.
faceface27 4 years ago
u can hear the difference in sound in the baris right away its cool that u guys dont sound exactly the same or it would b dull n boring
josedabandgeek 4 years ago
I've just started playing bari in band and it makes me go all light headed.
hehe
=]
doryfishyay 4 years ago
Awesome!! I play bari for concert band. We just started today, it's the first time I've ever played it. I LOVE it.
jessica20110 4 years ago
I play bari sax too, in marching and symphony band. It's amazing. And anyone who comments badly on this video can go try and play that on the bari sax themselves. Not too easy, is it? They're in highschool at the oldest. Cut them some slack. They sound amazing for a high school level band. Of course they aren't going sound like professionals!! Lighten up!
jadefire0123 4 years ago
BARI SAX WOOT! i play bari in my school band. im so pumped. we had this crappy bari and just yesterday we got a selmer! it's like a gift from God.
saltycrumpet 4 years ago
selmer... nice! Dave owns a Selmer and Me I own a Yamaha. Both are Nice Saxes, And I love both to death.
(Played a circa 1960s Mark 6 Selmer Bari once, All silver, completely engraved. Best Sax Ever)
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
yah bari sax players! i play the bari sax in my school's jazz band too. nice job.
claireedelune 4 years ago
i love the bari line in that and i play bari myself, i have never gotten to play that song but i want to give it a shot.
IronOutlaw36 4 years ago
Awesome stuff. I like the speed, it may be a bit rough around the edges but it kinda works with moanin'. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves too which is great :), Your double bass player is quality too to be able to hold the speed, nice one.
dragonfry 4 years ago
My college's jazz combo adapted this for our own purposes a few years back. As the Bari player it amused me greatly when the person doing lighting for our performance chose lighting for a much more soulful song than we ended up playing.
And if you ask me, most of the 'bad' that this recording presents is due to the recording itself. You can only expect so much fidelity from a personal video camera.
perpetualsecond 4 years ago
Oh...and no--it's NOT perfect. You're kids. You're still learning. But my hat's off to any school band that tackles it, and it's actually pretty good--and, more importantly, PROMISING. And props for throwing in the "Black Magic Woman" quote.
DivisiveOffering 4 years ago
Thanks, at least someone has some faith in High School Bands. Obviously we're not pros but were doing our best and still learning.
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
Hey, I know how it goes. I don't play but I had a lot of friends who did, and our hs jazz band played all over the country and won all kinds of awards. I saw the first performance given by the first rough incarnation of that band, with minimal skill and the same few tired charts over and over, and I saw it grow over the years into something incredible and professional-quality. These naysayers don't have the first clue.
DivisiveOffering 4 years ago
I can't believe how many people on this site would be so unabashedly harsh and cruel regarding a performance by CHILDREN. I like to think I know a little bit about jazz (and if you knew me you'd know that was a hilarious understatement) and I actually think Mingus would be amused by the tempo here (and further I think he'd be pleased that kids are even ATTEMPTING his stuff).
DivisiveOffering 4 years ago
its moanin' its supposed to be jumbled besides its just a highschool how good do you expect. ok the bari's can't improvise fast enough to solo on this tune but its a fast tune for a high school band.
kingqueenoff21 4 years ago
I liked the first part - with just the two baris - but when everyone joined in it just seemed really jumbled. But I think the baris were pretty good, I'm happy to see baris having the melody - especially two!
mjmr89 4 years ago 2
lol, i opend a solo once for jazz band it was awsome <3 my bari sax
sgt7111 4 years ago
this is bad. its not like even decent its just bad...no offense
acousticalart 4 years ago
this is shot with an old video camera that was put into digital form. obviously the quality isn't great, I was there, they were awesome, they gave me shivers. That doesn't happen often. When was the last time you played this song?
macghillechearr 4 years ago
My dad shot this footage. The camera was not old. It's not new but it's not "old". It was shot on a GL2 and the mic was a shotgun mic (not sure which make). The problem is the compression to a .mov file and then onto YouTube. As for the sound you can blame a Gym for that. The acoustics in that room are absolutely DREADFUL.
Subject0band 4 years ago
too true jon too true... if only SD62 would build us a performance hall :P
barisaxbrad 4 years ago
hahaha great job guys
very talented!
ChetMFToben 4 years ago
Hamiet Bluiet is the man.
BaritoneNation 4 years ago