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  • "Did you get the flu vaccine?" "No, I usually-ER I mean-- why are you asking me that?"

  • As a future pharmacist, I can tell you that vaccines have done way more good than harm, and have eradicated childhood diseases that used to be devastating, like measles. All of this fear-mongering and misinformation is only doing harm to the public. And, the fact is, there is more trace mercury in a can of tuna than there is in the flu shot. If you want real info on the flu shot, ask your health care professional instead of trusting the internet, where anyone can pretend to be an expert.

  • True story: two days after getting the flu shot, my skin became grey, I stumbled around erratically, attacked my co-workers, and soon lost the ability to process anything other than human flesh for nutrition.

    I got better, though, thanks to a homeopathic, green cure of 1g of rutabaga juice, 2g of orange juice, and a blended mix of three adult queen wasps!

  • @chriscumbag hahahaha did the homeopath shake/"succuss" the mixture enough? ;) I enjoy your trollage. We should be friends :D

  • "your actually being tracked by the government when you get a flu shot.", "flu vaccines permanently damages your DNA" hahahahaha it's so funny how people believe everything they read on the internet. Wow, the human race is really getting stupider each generation.

  • cont' I swore up and down I would never go through that shot again.

    FYI those who get the shot, guess what? You become carriers and therefore are more of a danger to the public than the virus itself. Why? because the vaccine is a genetically mutated to "supposedly" fight off a weaker virus. Have you noticed the virus getting stronger every flu shot season?? It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

  • @WithurShield Also, viruses getting stronger are not because of the flu vaccine. With or without a vaccine, viruses are capable of mutating. In fact, with or without vaccines, if someone had H2N5 and another person had H3N1, there can be cross mutation to get H3N5, H2N1 as new strains. So for every person vaccinated, you are PREVENTING another possible case of mutation. PS the H simply stands for Hemagglutinin & N for Neuraminidase, the numbers being the subtypes, so there are many combinations!

  • the last time we got a flue shot, my 9 month old baby (first child) ended up with a fever of 103!! I have never been so scared in my life!

    When I asked his pediatrician what happen, this is what I was told.

    "oh that is a expected reaction. See, the vaccine is actually a "controlled" flu virus. Your supposed to get flu symptoms."

    A expected reaction??!!! the vaccine is actually the flu, itself????!!!!! WTF???

  • @WithurShield WRONG. The flu shot itself does not cause the flu because the particles in the shot are dead (or should be dead) but your antibodies still recognize the dead particles and protect you from a future virus.

  • @WithurShield Hahaha I can see why you would get that concerned as it is your child. However, you missed the point. And it is ironic that you said "it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out", because you didn't :)

    The febrile symptoms is part of your immune response in combating what it perceives to be a viral infection. This doesn't always happen, but the flu-like symptoms you get will disappear MUCH quicker than a real flu AND you are not contagious. The vaccine is NOT the flu itself!

  • my mother got the flu shot and she got sick and it took her a while to get over whatever she had. she went to the doctor and the doctor said nothing was wrong and offered her a cough drop. Insane! I say don't take it.

  • @jns124able lol I'm not an idiot. I stopped getting flu shots long before this thing for my own reasons. and you can save the cocky comments..

    no one likes a troll.

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  • Sigh. Pharmaceutical companies are up to all kinds of evil money-grabbing life-harming bullshit, but the flu shot is actually not part of that.

    Flu shots are consistently over 80% effective vs the major strain of flu it's designed for, and around 20% effective vs other types of flu. It's not a guarantee to work, and it's not without side effects, but it actually does work overall.

    That said, I'm too lazy and too cheap to get the flu shot. But save your anger for the REAL scams.

  • Obama would never allow fluoride in our water

  • Obama would never allow vaccine shots to be detrmental.

  • wow i'm so glad ive never got a flu shot...i think im just fine without being injected with poison

  • That is unbelievable! Proves that vaccines do not work, there are no studies and taking them is putting your life at risk.

  • @12dogpal

    How well do you understand immunology and chemistry?

  • There are no known risks associated with vaccinations.

    We support the work of the pharmaceutical industry and invest heavily in their research.

    There's NO conclusive evidence that vaccines at birth cause disease.

    Get your annual vaccinations and keep yourself up-to-date to boost your immune system and prevent catching H1N1.

    We support the Center for Disease Control, World Health Organization, the FDA, DHS and the Obama Administration's efforts to vaccinate the world to save billions of lives!

  • @CorporateRule "There are no known risks associated with vaccinations." Oh really? Then explain why Australia BANNED the flu shot after it sent children into the hospital with convulsions! You invest heavily in FALSIFIED research, while real studies are silenced. There's a reason Australia banned the vaccinations. Because they don't work, and they make people SICK.

  • @cyAnidecALi

    We're saddened to see so many in the mass population are so grossly misinformed about the modern safety and effectiveness of flu vaccines, people like you will be the first mass-die off when the new, more deadly strain of H1N2 flu is released into the population coming this November, 2011. :(

  • I heard that the H1N1 Vaccine perminantly damages your DNA. I have some videos on my channel that show the Government testing HIV Vaccines on Healthy Volunteers who later become infected? Vaccines are a BioWeapon.

    BrainChild...

  • @BrainChild666 Perminantly damages your DNA? Wow. All of it, is that it? xD

  • @BrainChild666 lmfao do you even know how vaccines work? No, the H1N1 vaccine does not permanently damage your DNA. Not even anti-cancer DNA-calating agents will necessarily permanently damage your DNA.

    The reason why for SOME vaccines, HIV patients or those who are immuno-compromised/suppressed do NOT have a sufficient T-cell count to develop a proper immune response to the vaccine components, which may be an inactivated virus, a portion of the virus, or a killed virus

    Wish I could write more

  • @Wolfdrugs Wrong!

  • Its the FLU for f***'s sake, people (sheeple!). Eat right, stay healthy and you have a better shot at beating the VIRUS, NOT A DISEASE, which mutates constantly and has a better than 50% chance of not even being the strain the shot is made for anyway. Read first - then choose instead of trusting big Pharm companies making something they can sell & realize that healthy populations means no reason for them to exist. Recent history shows just because a drug is legal does not make it safe either.

  • we could argue all day about does or doesnt this and that , but the way i see it is it's another mass produced product , there are bound to be some screw ups that get by quality control. I dont agree with forced vaccination unless there is an obvious break out of something very deadly.

  • Do I personally?.....No I usually, uhh I mean, uhhh why are you asking me that?

  • @spirit172 BULLSHIT,, Vaccines save thousands of people a year from the flu and rabies, look at the facts

  • What was the date of the call please put in description thnx

  • lol..."why are you asking me that" ...lolol

  • This seemed a little fake.. There is enough evidence that vaccines are dangerous.. we really dont need to make fake videos to prove a point.. a family just won 1.5 million from a kid that got Autism from a vaccine.. the poley family.. yeepeee.. the vaccines will be over soon.. hitem in the pocketbook, then they will stop killing with vaccines..

  • @TheRickmurray if you had rabies, would u rather, 1, get the vaccine or 2, die a horrible agonizing death ???????

  • @U91H3D why dont you do a little and I mean just a little research on the flu shots before making such a foolish statement. The flu causes you to have a runny nose, muscle aches, throwing up etc.. Put the list of possibe side effects of the H1N1 vaccine next to the list of symtoms from the flu and you will see my point.. To me, when I see people in line for the flu shot, it reminds me of Jim Jones and his koolaid.. anyone who gets a shot without researching it and its side effects is a fool.

  • @U91H3D your comparsion to the rabies shot is not valid. The rabies can kill you, the vaccine has been proven to work against this. The flu shot is for the most part not even effective in keeping you from getting a runny nose.. in fact, the way they deceide what flu shot to give is they go to china to see what flu is popular there then come back her and manufacture the flu vaccine. If we get another strain, that shot is useless. The flu is not deadly the vaccine according to its makers can be.

  • @TheRickmurray there isnt enough evidence to prove their dangerous. All you people do is say scary words like MERCURY (even though they dont contain mercury anymore, even when they did it was mercury SALTS, which leaves the body and isnt the same) scary words arent evidence.

  • @grendelee Why dont you google the couple that just won 1.5 million from the goverment because the vaccinations gave their kid autism and then ask the other 5 thousand people waiting in line for the same compensation due to their kids developing autism. Why dont you look up the first doses of the h1n1 shots in 1976 where on a miltary base the flu killed one. the vaccine killed 25. There is tons of evidence that supports the facts that the flu shot is very dangerous.if you take it you are a fool

  • @TheRickmurray yes, i know people blame vaccines for autism. I also know that it existed BEFORE and AFTER vaccines existed. What about the proof that it DOESNT cause autism?

  • @grendelee well at the end of the day, it is your decision to take the shot or not, but I am unsure how you could take the shot after just reading the manufators list of possible side effects that they themselves publish. Please compare the list of side effects from the vaccine and the acctual flu and tell me which one is scarier. Look at the long line of nurses in New York that protested mandatory vaccinatons.. these are nurses not wanting to take it and willing to lose their jobs.

  • @TheRickmurray lol thats the same side effects you can get anything. If you have a respiratory disorder, this might aggravate it, please consult your doctor. ALL MEDICINE has a list like that. Its gonna be funny someday. When they have a vaccine for HIV or cancer, people are gonna stop taking it, because "theres no such thing as cancer! your immune system can just fight it off!" lol

  • All medicine has a list to include- grendelee Arthralgia*Myalgia*Myasthenia*­Nervous systemdisorders*Headache*Dizzi­ness*Neuralgia*Paraesthesia*Fe­brile convulsions*Guillain-Barré Syndrome*Myelitis (including encephalomyelitis and transverse myelitis)*Neuropathy (including neuritis)*Paralysis (including Bell's Palsy)*Respiratory disorders*Dyspnea*Chest pain*Cough*Pharyngitis*Rhiniti­s*Stevens-Johnson syndrome*Pruritus*Urticaria*Ra­sh (including non-specific, maculopapular, and vesiculobulbous).

  • @grendelee What kind of medicine are you taking? you must be a little loopy.

  • @grendelee it is impossible to have a vaccine for cancer.. that shows just how foolish you are.. Cancer is not contagous. A vaccine is made to stop the spread of the virus (supposidly, but the jury is still out) cancer is not a virus but a abnormality in the cells. If you take a vaccine for Cancer you are the biggest fool in America.. HIV was manmade by our own ,military so I am sure they already have a vaccine for it and a cure, but the vaccine will come first so we can enjoy the side effects.

  • @TheRickmurray i was being hypothetical, you gibbering idiot.

  • @grendelee ok

  • @TheRickmurray See on youtube...Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally - House of Numbers

    Montagnie is the guy who won the Nobel Prze for "hiv". He use fermented papaya juice in hispatients. He slamsthe drugs and vaccines as beingabout proft not health. Also...the "hiv" test is just an antibody test so even if it actually existed getting a + means you already have antibody immunity. Google....AZT LABEL if you want to know why people get sick.

  • @mykoolaidtastesfunny I love your screen name. I was not aware of this HIV cure, thank you for letting me in on it. I have freinds with HIV and they may be interested in hearing. but so many people trust the goverment so much they will never listen to a alternitive veiw, one thing you would think would be abundently clear in America is if the goverment tells you one thing, it means the exact and complete opposite.

  • @TheRickmurray He won the Nobel Prize!! Try and get them t watch "House of Numbers"

  • @TheRickmurray There has never been any proof of Autism caused by a vaccine, and no family has ever received a settlement like that.

    Look, drug companies are pretty evil, they only worry about profits and don't care if people die. They have cures for diseases that they don't make because it's not profitable enough. They spend all their time making the next Rogaine or Viagra instead of helping save lives.

    But vaccines are one thing that actually DO WORK! Complain about the real evil instead!

  • @bobdonda I disagree.

  • @TheRickmurray You can't disagree with facts, it's not a matter of opinion. There is zero scientific evidence of vaccines causing autism, and no family has ever received a settlement like that.

    There are millions of stupid moms who will believe anything, then a couple hundred are unlucky to have children with autism. They are mad and want something to blame - so they listen to the rumor and blame the vaccine. The rumor could have said baby food causes it, or diapers, and they'd still believe it

  • @TheRickmurray It's believable because of how autism develops. Autistic children are normal as a baby, then symptoms like lack of the usual neural development appear between 6 mo. old and 2 yrs old. This happens to be the time where children get vaccines, and it happens then whether the child receives vaccines or not.

    Because of the timing people think it must be related, but it just doesn't work that way. It's like believing rainy days make you smarter b/c you once aced a test during a storm.

  • @TheRickmurray Well what about the poley family that the court said the vaccine did cause Autism.

  • Food & Medical Should NEVER BE CORPORATE or you will be suffering everyday in pain only for them to reap the benifits also its a good form of control MAKE EVERYONE STUPID AND IGNORENT... Get the a hint.....

  • 36,000 deaths per year? Yeah Right! This number is hyper-inflated. Do the research. Demand truth!

  • Those studies are falsified reports by the criminal, now corporate controlled FDA. The day I get A vaccination is the day they get lead poisoning.., but also, most likely, the day I will die. Rather be dead than a willing participant in this beast system.

  • "Europe, U.S. ban Australia-made flu vaccine for kids" Aug.18, 2010

    "The US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices did not want children aged nine and below to get the Afluria shot, the U.S. version of CSL's Fluvax, as the vaccine cause fibrile convulsions...

    CSL's Fluvax is the only vaccine in the world that combines seasonal and swine flu strains.

    It is approved by the World Health Organization."

    ibtimes . com/contents/20100818/europes- ­ban-australia-made-flu-vaccin­e ­-kids.html

  • I think I'll stick to my decision to not get flu vaccines after this.

  • @AroraMoon youd make a big decision after looking at a single video placed on utube? wow.

  • @jns124able ur joking right? I did say "stick to my decision" which means that i had reasons before.

    I'm not stupid. I don't make decisions about things from just one video. I think you need to read more carefully before making reply comments.

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  • @AroraMoon I removed my reply...I dont really want to engage you in any discussion...you go do what you want

  • @jns124able thank you. I didn't want to engage anyone either.

    Please read things more carefully before making reply comments though.

  • @AroraMoon ugh

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  • such a well done video esp. at the end, wow well done!

  • The US website, VAERS has published statistics on ONLY ONE (1) of the H1N1(swine flu) vaccines:

    Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine

    As of Feb. 26:

    10,172 reports

    636 classified as "Serious Health Events" --defined as "life-threatening or death, major disability, abnormal conditions at birth, hospitalization, or extension of existing hospitalization"

    51 deaths,

    all under investigation

    500+ reports come to VAERS each week of reactions to this vaccine

  • The scientists credited with creating the polio vaccine have stated on camera that the vaccine did not work . You can find the video here on youtube . DDT poisoning was the primary cause of "polio cases " . Polio is now called viral meningitis . It is illegal in America to diagnose someone with polio . Polio is fairly common , but now , just like in the 1950s 90% of people clear polio from their system in 3 or 4 days, it rarely causes serious illness .

  • What a complete and utter paragraph of tripe.

    There is not a single valid statement in it.

  • did u know about the 90% decline of polio & even scarlet fever before any vaccine was ever introduced? did u know there was hardly any change in the decline- there was actually an increase for a short period of time- of reported polio cases. did u know of the CHANGE OF DEFINITION that just so happened to coincide w/ introducion of vaccines in order to manipulate data?

    look up "Polio Vaccine"

    A Peer-Reviewed Study

    By Neil Z. Miller

    Published in Medical Veritas

  • Patently false.

    Scarlet Fever is a BACTERIAL infection caused by strep. The decline in it (which occurred after the introduction of a vaccine) is the result of penicillin preventing strep advancements. As for Polio, the numbers show otherwise. Case rates were NOT falling until AFTER the introduction of the vaccine. MORTALITY rates were falling because of the invention of the iron lung and other treatments, but that did NOT lead to a drop in cases.

    Tenpenny's BS has been completely refuted.

  • they were falling until the introduction of vaccine for polio. & note there never was a vaccine for scarlet fever yet it was on decline. google this source: National Morbidity Reports taken from U.S. Public Health surveil-lance reports; Lancet (April 18, 1950), pp. 659-63.

    And check out that peer reviewed study by Neil Miller. Injecting crap into the body by NO MEANS produces good results- since when has JUNK IN resulted in something not junk out? it is so obvious the improvement of sanitation

  • actual care in food intake & clean water play a far more reaching role in development of health than putting som virus into the body. u dont need a virus in the body- u need proper food, water & health not disease. That peer reviewed study reviews quite a bit behind the history of polio

    & note before the definition change, polio never really was 'life-threatening' as its made out to b. very few cases of polio ever resulted in paralysis & majority of those that did result in paralysis was short

  • term not long term as the new definition requires. alot of the reported polio cases were linked to get this- either bad sanitation or diet. yeah diet plays not just a part but a HUGE part in health. same thing w/ pertussis- analyze the corpus cristi incident- theres the case study of 100% vaccinated yet u get an outbreak of som pertusis or crap. who cares wat kind of disease it is or what bacteria it is? it dont matter as long as u hav health. there r billions of bacteria u com in contact w/

  • But why the hell dont u get infected by like a single one or why dont they detriment ur entire body upon contact? theres about a hundred reasons- note first it takes TIME, everything in the world takes TIME. its same reason that u dont get burned walkin barefoot thru hot coals. as hot as those coals r, heat transfer will always require NOT ONLY a contact surface but also much time to occur. same thing w/ infections- 1 of the biggest factors is time- if u clean a bacteria/virus out of system,

  • then just like a strong flowing river, there r no means by which the bacteria may fester, develop & grow w/in the body. Same type of thing occurs in fighting & MA. sure u could worry about each & every different attack that comes ur way, every kick, punch, elbow, shoulder&throw. But doing so is pointless in&of itself as it detracts ur attention&intent away from urself. As long as u focus on developing&training urself, then u r prepared to handle virtually any variety of attacks or lack thereof

  • Then when u encounter any punch, elbow or kick, u can almost automatically subconsciouslly handle it & its no problem. in fact unless a punch or kick has 3 things: a target, TIME, & sufficient force transfer that can shock the target, then the attack is meaningless & no real damage is done.

    As long as u can redirect the force of attack, not hold onto&resist the attack, then not only do u suffer no damage but also the opponent's force, his attack & his position or structure become urs

  • And it occurs almost effortlessly by the trained MA.

    But if u worry about each punch, claw, backfist, etc, OR fail to properly train urself, then u hav practically forfeited ur right to live as u set urself up to sustain maximum damage. when ur attacked, worrying about that punch will only freeze u, keep u from moving properly & give it ample oppurtunity to connect to ur vitals & give it time for force transfer to shock ur systems

    Same 3 factors apply to health in general

  • Bacteria needs a couple things to fester, develop, grow&infect. First it needs a means by which it can enter a contact point. bacteria typically(except for vaccines) com from the superficial external of the body to the internal OVER time.

    Theres another important fact about viruses- they hav this coating thing around them. u hav to BREAK the coating in order for the virus to infect & grow in the body. hence why germs thrive in highly acidic environments.

    If u dont break this & clean it out

  • My god you show a dangerous level of ignorance.

  • watch?v=zCBlxqmOMKM

    go read that article i told u about. u still have not read it. Its obvious that vaccine companies&cdc doctored&manipulated the data on polio decline

    & smallpox also plummeted before vaccines. there r other factors- hundreds of them- that contribute to the decline of disease & they were more potent than vaccines as we see that it did not effect the change in decline of polio after intro of vaccine. it actually increased the number of reported cases for a while til the

  • change in definition- do u understand what that means? THEY F'in manipulated the data & changed the definition of polio!

  • antibodies does not by any means provide any sort of protection against disease! read the study & u will see just how the cdc doctored their report&data

  • No change of diagnosis would account for a change to virtually zero cases when that same definition is still applied elsewhere where cases DID NOT fall without vaccination and where cases have returned with lapses in vaccination.

  • not true at all- by chaning definition, u can manipulate quite easily future data&cases. A change of definition is where ur THROWING out that cases! AND CHANGING IT! read the paper, it describes the change

  • Wrong again. Why don't you try re-reading. The definition is applied worldwide. If it was merely a function of diagnostic change, there would not have been different levels dropping in different places at different times. There would not be a return of cases when vaccination was halted in places like Nigeria and Afghanistan.

    The paper is piece of shit bastardization designed to suck up idiots like yourself who THINK they have some sense because they were taught the alphabet.

  • u never read it did u- hahaha

    fine u can deny all u want & live in ur little bubble surrounded by DRUG COMPANIES LOBBYING IN THE FDA CDC. ignore the basic fact that health never was about disease but disease is the likely outcome of poor health.

    It has always been the destruction or oppurtunistic failure of the host that allow for a parasitic disease of external source to influence the internal realms of the host.

    The article uses real statistics not those fabricated&manipulated by cdc

  • i told u POLIO WAS CAUSED MAJORLY not by som lack of antibodies NO! but by malnutrition, poor health, poor life, lack of proper sanitation-

    analyze history&the decline of polio. u will find undeniably that it was in decline BEFORE vaccines & the vaccines hardly increased the rate of decline

  • And I gave you the statistics that show you that you are wrong. Apparently reading comprehension is too difficult for you.

  • Same thing happens in a fight- study the art of war a bit u'll probably learn a lot more about strategies, tactics & basic principles about fight & war. Unless there is an OPPURTUNITY, some oppurtunistic failure on the part of the martial artist, whether its improper training, improper posture, fear, anger, etc, & sufficient time for such failures to culminate,

    then it becomes near impossible for any attacks to have any real devestating effect- the attacks just can't connect

  • What u so obviously need is nutrition, proper sunlight- like did u know the early morning sun befor8am & after 3pm is most beneficial- yeah its been known for like thousands of years & it took som hundred years of crap & billions of dollars just to find this out.

    so if you need this nutrition, proper rest & sanitation all of which IMPROVES health(+), instead of taking that over a proper amount of time, you inject som crap DEEP into the body- viruses, proteins foreign dna, formaldyhyde&mercury

  • ALL of which EACH has a NEGATIVE force on the body, then it becomes so obvious that problems may develop over time whether suddenly or gradually. Its like takin a bit of rat poison instead of exercising, eating real food & getting the proper sleep. The effects of it may or may not surface immediately however there is most definitely a detrimental effect to going against the natural cycles, complexities * processes of the body & nature itself

  • If you study war, you will also know that you should take advantage of all defenses. Viruses do not play fair. They follow no code. and while nutrition is certainly important, there is no nutrition in the world that will save you from ebola for instance.

    Arguing against the efficacy of vaccines and the theory behind them is the equivalent of arguing that the sun revolves around the earth.

  • Theres a protective coating did u know that? yeah those viruses hav coatings that MUST B BROKEN! before adhesion & infestation occur- thus time in the system, actual breakage of virus barriers, & penetration deep into the body r required factors for infection & infestation for ANY SORTS of diseases or parasites. Hence y they thrive on ACIDIC & toxic environments filled w/ garbage & weakened by lack of proper development not so much in an alkaline place filled w/ natural processes that move&remov

  • the toxin, poison & crap from the system. To argue about the validity of training&development is far more meaningless than that of vaccines.

    In a battlefield u have NOTHING but ur ass, ur training & ur relationship w/ ur fellow man. To treat every man on the battlefield as an enemy would quickly make u lose both energy&resources as u foolishly attack anything&everything u c. This is pointless!

    instead if u use a principle called WuWei, u can achieve the most for the least cost&effort.

  • wuwei is about LETTING nature serve u rather than seeking to alter nature & ur surroundings w/ great force- quite a waste. Its the method by which 4oz can overcome 1000lbs. Or how 4oz can move a 1000lbs ox

    By using nature's structure, u have to disband the notion of 'enemy' & instead befriend an opponent, his position & attack, then WITHOUT using force u have just gained another force & taken out the enemy w/o much work on ur part

    To resist an attack & talk of using something that devestates

  • both 'enemies & friendlies alike' ie a mass poison instead of training, developing & growing oneself into a fine MA, would be a fools talk. By doing so, u have lost before you begun & have only given that punch, that kick or elbow a MASSIVE target to attack

    Theres always gonna b an attack, an opponent, an elbow, a lock, a strangle or tangle. But to actually get hyped up about each&every 1 of them or like each & every virus like the ever changing flu, actually causes u to b unable to respond

  • Michael Chricton had sort of talked about this- hype & fear mongering. It causes a shock to one's system which unnecessarily makes u freeze & unable to change or handle the environment. The environment is always changing, theres always a tornado or not theres always a lightning or theres not, theres always a hurricane or theres not.

    So once you lose the ability to change properly & i emphasize this PROPERLY, u have submitted urself to disaster

    now this change does not by any means mean vaccine

  • Vaccines are anything but proper- & i'll emphasize this again- proper change. This is about developing oneself so one can listen&respond appropriately w/ minimal conscious thought or intent

    Vaccines hav many erroneous assumptions & use variety of fraud&circular reasoning in its math. first- the whole idea behind germ theory assumes that Antibodies produced automatically protect the body from the disease. This is not so & in fact neglects the overwhelming complexities of the immune system

  • Have you been diagnosed as mentally retarded, by any chance?

    Because, DAMN.

  • sorry if you are unable to understand the wonders of complexity & fail to have any actual education or understanding of logic. Complex systems are hardly linear- they r often cyclic & integrated into a vast network. The human body is highly complex system of systems & the 'immune system' is also highly complex- thus to attribute the entire system&disease 'prevention/handling' to som thin like antibodies that may or may not b there & is not even relative to immunity, is quite foolish in&of itself

  • Yeah, I think that answers my question, indeed.

  • heehee- it would almost b a first that a complex system is linear. Climate change, rises&falls in govts, the food chain, change of seasons, solar physics, & the human body- none of these things r linear. can u at least tell the difference between linear & cyclic?

  • u can not attribute strictly any 1 element to the full major causation of any event. climate does not depend only on gas but also on ground, fauna, clouds, sun & everything in between. To say that 1 single thing gives ultimate protection neglects the holistic nature of complexity- u will be DENYING COMPLEXITY ITSELF & ITS MANY FACTORS

  • i feel what u are saying. i have someone close to me who is sick and i know the meds cant do it all. it has to be everything, change in lifestyle, for things to get better

  • Well, that explains a lot.

    Stay in school kid.

  • do you even know the word COMPLEXITY?

    u aint human if u can not have enough sense to understand such basic sense

  • Are you aware of the word COHERENCY?

  • And where do you figure they got their statistics?

  • watch?v=GrEKiOKcUOI

  • watch?v=9TdSp3hyuHk

    Theres so much dirt surrounding vaccines cuz vaccines are dirt! they r made of things like squalene, cow pus, literally shit & mercury- each said to 'enhance' the effect of som virus. theres so much wrong w/ that statement i dont know where to begin!

    EACH element of the vaccine has a seperate effect on the body- if u just wanted the virus just be naturally exposed to the virus, take in sufficient nutrition, exercise & proper rest then u get thru it w/ flying colors.

  • but the moment u start screwing around w/ highly toxic HEAVY METALS & the like, u r only enhancing DEVESTATION NOT recuperation, growth & development of the body as a whole.

    c if i wanted to destroy a body of whatever magnitude, i would not only introduce a virus deep w/in, i would also create the oppurtunistic failures w/in the body to permit it & even encourage it to fester & grow. & i would not allow sufficient time or measures for the virus & all its problems & complications from my

  • added measures to b dealt w/ properly & removed from the system. No i would try to suppress the system as much as i can, subtly or openly & then infest the body gettin at various vitals in such a highly toxic&acidic environment. being suppressed, the system cant do nothin right. And by the time u notice, ur already about to die

    'The perfect position or condition for one's enemies is the perfect demise of oneself & the perfect condition of oneself is the perfect demise of one's possible enemies'

  • Again you show an absolutely alarming ignorance of physiology.

  • Yes, there are billions of bacteria, but not all of them cause sicknesses. It does not matter how "healthy you are. If I throw you in a pool full of hep virus and you havent had the vaccine you are going to get hep. You don't think so? Easy one to try yourself.

    Corpus Christi was a MEASLES issue and was what led to the MMR booster shot because it occurred in older children.

    There are no 100% vaccinated pops out there.

  • That is great unless you were one of the ones that died. It means NOTHING to the efficacy of the vaccine. Again this ignores the fact that the polio vaccine is not the only one. Things like Measles have death rates ranging anywhere from 1/1000 to 1/10. Need another one? How about chickenpox? The disease rates have plummeted since the intro of the vax in the 90's. Do you think that US kids are eating better and have better sanitation in the past decade? If so I wonder if you are also vs. HFCS...

  • YES THERE WAS A VACCINE FOR SCARLET FEVER. Patented 1924 by George and Gladys DIck, it became moot with the invention of PENICILLIN which means NO VACCINE IS NECESSARY.

    Polio cases rates were NOT falling. They were maintaining a consistent level on average until the introduction of the vaccine. The fact that the couple of years prior showed a slight decline was part of the normal cycle, as evidenced by previous cycles over the prior century. After the vax it virtually disappeared in 5 years.

  • That last comment was classic! Caller: Do you get the flu vaccine? Employee:Um...no. Why do you ask? lol. That was hilarious! Many doctors don't give vaccines to their children. I can't believe people are that naive to inject their kids with toxins.

  • There is more mercury in a can of tuna.

  • @PsychedelicSexDream which is bound to the protein and 99.9% pass's straight through our bodies. oh and the mercury in the vacine obviously comes with a bounus prize..

    Nice sound bite thought LOL i have a parrot just like you

  • Please post a credible source that states that the methylmercury from fish passes through the digestive system, unabsorbed.

    Because all of the studies I've read states that mathylmercury has an almost 100% uptake, which means that it's almost completely absorbed into the system during digestion. Which is why the EPA has established limits for the safety levels of mercury in food and water.

    cont

  • You're also completely ignoring the fact that tuna(and other mercury contaminated food and even water) is a regular part of the average diet, while vaccines are occasional.

    And let's not forget that there is no mercury in pediatric vaccines (amazing how all the anti-vaxers forget this fact, it's usually their main argument) and there are mercury free formulas for all vaccines, should someone wish to use those.

  • But the mercury levels in the tuna are from the build up of mercury in the food chain so I doubt it passes through my body, a process called chelation that binds minerals to amino acids makes them more available to the body.

    animals absorb, digest and use mineral chelates better than inorganic minerals. Proteinates are a particular type of chelate, in which the mineral is chelated with short-chain peptides and amino acids.

    Protein doesn't pass through your body undigested.

  • Pregnancy and flu vaccine do not mix

  • Can someone PLEASE explain to me why so many of Transatlantics posts have been "spammed out"?

    I have been debating him in the "What's in your flu vaccine" thread for many weeks. I have found him to be highly rude, arrogant and in sometimes evasive. But there is nothing more in that thread to justify "spamming out" his comments than there would be for many equally rude and arrogant opponents of vaccines. This does suggest some dishonesty on the part of one or more anti-vaxers.

    Anyone?

  • greenourvaccines:

    Its unfortunate (and doesn't help the anti-vaccine case) that there is no way of authenticating this conversation. Who is the interviewer? Which company? Who is the woman and what is her authority within the company?

    Sorry, you've put in an effort here, but for it to stick we do have to do better than this. It could just as easily be a script made up between you and your girlfriend and enacted over the phone.

    Cheers, keep up the good work but please - lift the game.

  • Ha ha...she doesn't get the vaccine herself. Interesting, very interesting.

  • lol .. my my, shows that they were not prepared for this call

  • There is definitely a cost : benefit analyisis that needs to be made when you consider taking a vaccine today.

    Vaccines can have a negative impact on your health. These days its usually a tiny risk to your health.

    You should not take a vaccine unless you are in a high risk catagory.

  • People are dying and being injured by this vaccine, recent reports are saying that pregnant women are having miscarriages after getting injected. Fight fear w/ knowledge. See my blog w/ many reports of reactions @ vaccine-reactions(dot)blogspot­(dot)com

  • This is why:

    NASA announced they found Planet X in 1983 then said it was a mistake.

    They LIED!

    This is what theyre hiding with the chemtrails sprayed every day globally. Its the reason for the increase in quakes and volcanoes and for the doomsday seed vault.

    It is also the warning for the war of Armageddon which will see America destroyed by Russia, China and the SCO on the day of the next us/israeli false flag to invade Iran.

    News here:

    (3w) . scribd . com/doc/16612974/War-News

  • TIghten your tin foil hat, mate, it is coming loose!

  • @batigol47 look it up before you comment, planet X was known by many past civilization come 2012 its gonna be passing give or take - if not then i'll wear my tin foil hat outdoors i swear

  • Did she say that there is no difference if u are vaccined or not, the risk is the same?

    Isn't that funny? The virus will mutate into a more deadly version, i cannot think of anything else.. Think about it!

    Ridicule the anti vaccin lobby, plant "accepted" theories inside peoples heads, make em think it isnt that bad, spread the live mutated virus and make people beg for the shot.

    But then again.. If it doesnt make a difference then what is the purpose of the vaccine?

    1 word : Nanochips!

  • There is no conspiracy other than greed . GlaxoSmithKline saw a proft margin of 2.35 billion dollars last quarter 15% of that was the H1N1 vaccine . Don't get fooled by disinformation agents trying to claim global conspiracies . Those people take away the credibility of the rest of us who avoid vaccines based on science and logic . The science is clearly against taking any vaccine other than maybe rabies if bitten by a wild animal . They do it for the money period . Fear sells .

  • Hi bobyhousinit,

    conspiracies have been around for millenia. I wonder why you would think they have suddenly stopped?

    Put together global multi-billion dollar industries and greed. Throw in a blend of corrupt government officials and politicians. Stir slowly over many decades (perhaps a century or three) and see what comes out!

    As Gerald Ford (& several others) said, "A government that is big enough to give you all you want is also big enough to take away everything you have".

  • The most obvious form of conspiracy is the party political system. It is, by very defnition conspiratorial. Under the guise of democracy we are given the choice each election of throwing out the current mob or putting back the mob we threw out last time! In reality, no democracy exists because politicians can be castigated for representing their constituents rather than the party line. And we wonder why they both end up doing the same! Its because the same masters control both. (more)..

  • The system is an ancient one, now referred to as the Hegelian Dialectic: thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

    No-one wants to lose their freedom, so create a problem (eg terrorism) and people will beg for the solution that just happens to take their freedom. hitler demonstrated the principle when he burned down the German Reichstag, justifying and immediately introducing totalitarian powers. Consider Oklahoma: (more...)

  • Consider Oklahoma: (the Murrah building) (cont'd)

    Why was the existence of unexploded bombs inside the building (widely reported by local media but suddenly dropped, and NEVER reported by the national mainstream media) hushed up? Because it didn't fit with the official story.

    Then we have 911, of course.

    The Reichstag burning justiified Hitler's "Enabling Acts".

    The Murrah building justified the "Counter terrorism Bill"

    911 justified "The Patriot Act".

  • ...and that is a very, very naive thing to say.

    Many extremely dangerous vaccine-preventable diseases have been greatly reduced due to strong national vaccination programs. Smallpox is probably the best example, however there are many others... Polio, Rubella. The number of people contracting these viruses has been greatly reduced over the past century alone, due to vaccination.

    However vaccination against diseases such as Influenza is obviously difficult due to the quantity of strains.

  • uhm.. do i personaly?.. hahaha.. she doubts..

    U know what the sad part is? Nobody i try to tell about the evil in procucers of medicine and vaccins listens.. The mostly stand up and fight in the name of merxc, baxter and novartis..

    Although i present evidence, they always say the same : Who says they are telling the truth? They never doubt the official media, never ever..

    They just doubt me.. And there u have it.. The movies, series and daily portion of watching tv is taking its toll..

  • The problem with flu vaccines is that young people dont need them and old people dont benefit from them.

  • The horrible truth is that vaccines and "recommended" vaccine schedules are orchestrated by a loop of companies, independent scientist researchers, doctors and nurses who ALL get paid every time your child gets pumped with Thimerosal, Mercury, Formaldehyde and Chicken Embryo cells.....except the unsuspecting parent.

    Merck does not care about your child. They are all in an industry where keeping parents in the dark about adverse reactions and ingredients is crucial to their cash flow.

  • I think we should stop all vaccinations especially agaisnt the third world

    Polio isnt bad. I got over it in a couple days.

    Also Smallpox is just a lie made up about history to make people think vaccines ever did anything good.

    Meningitis c doesnt exist oh god the list goes on and all. All these diseases that suddenly disapeared because of vaccinations.

    All the stats about high rates of the disease before the vaccine is just a lie perpetrated by the NWO.

    lol I troll you.

  • Well at least she was honest lolz

  • wow anybody is still dumb enough to even consider any type of vaccination should go check out a video called "Girl Gets Swine Flu Shot & Now Can Only Walk Backwards!"

  • Theres millions of people dumb enough. There are millions more who are forced to get one or lose their job.

    Its called the corporate NWO is taking over, and its almost complete.

    Soon we will be told what we can buy, when we can buy it, and where we have to buy it from. Its already happening

    Dont waste your time with the flu shot. The media blew it up because the pharmeceutical industry wanted a piece of tax payer money, and now that everyone ate the loaf of lies, THEY GOT THEIR MONEY & LAUGH

  • More Great News!

    Poll: 75% Of Finns DON'T WANT the Swine Flu Vaccine

    A recent poll held at the end of September by Ilta-Sanomat rendered the exact same percentage as the Helsingin Sanomat gallup, 75% WILL NOT be taking the vaccine. Over 16,000 people took part in the Ilta-Sanomat poll.

    So it seems that in spite of intense government and mainstream media propaganda and fear mongering on the swine flu, the Finnish people have NOT bought the hype. Better luck next time.

    Source- sikainfluenssa

  • hyvää soumi minä raakastan sinua !

  • GREAT NEWS from UK! Just spoke 2 friend who works in hospital, Many, Many staff not having the shot! Ward matrons do not want staff to have it because they end up with so many staff off SICK!

    MORE STAFF HAVE TIME OFF FROM THE FLU SHOT THAN THEY DO THE ACTUAL FLU!

    Also behind closed doors Doctors are telling staff, there is no benefit in taking the shot!

    Doctors r on the front line, they see the ill effects of shot & then have 2 deal with the patient returning with real flu weeks later!

  • Since they insist on EVERYBODY getting these shots, (it's their billion dollar product) you'd think they would have the numbers on the TOP of their heads, the TIP of their tongues.

    Oh, so it's a "preservative" therefore MERCURY is somehow SAFE to inject directly into our veins. The girl who works at the place won't take the shot herself. i read that pediatricians have the LOWEST compliance rate for vaccinating their own kids. Interesting.

  • damn she owned herself XD