fullspeeddave: You're so wrong, while the sport is somewhat divorced from real sword fighting it's not a difficult step to transfer it to a real weapon which can be wielded very quickly making the skills of distance, lunge and parry completely relevant. Given real weapons a fencer would be far more prepared for the fight than anyone else, that was why the sport was created, the fundamentals are the same.
it is very much divorced i might say. if you had an opponent wielding a real, sharp sabre, then you would not be jumping back and forth in a line. nor waving around with you own sword. they would maybe have an eye for the distance but since they care not of being hit one second afterward, they have not trained to parry for an afterblow (even if the opponent might have died by your hit, his/her sword might still be going toward you)
@DarkViktor Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. All competant sabre fencers are taught to counter parry-repost (parrying "afterblows"). It's not always necessary (like if i'm slicing you open while you're arm's in the air). Don't surmise the complexity of a sport by just a video of glory shots. Everything in their form, and actions has a reason and a powerful effect in illiciting mistakes from their opponent so they can hit without being hit (LIKE REAL SWORDS?!? o.0)
@DDRKnightProductions 80% of the time they were getting hit at the same time... which would mean either they have shitty defence or all they know is how to reach a little bit further to tap the other person for a point... from wat i see they know how to run and attack
wat darkviktor is saying is true, that 80% of the time would mean both people would get a fatal or serious wound or b dead :P if it was real, doubt they would b dead though... a simple stab to the shoulder isnt going to kill lol
@nomnomieatu I don't have enough words on a youtube reply to actually explain all the feints, athleticism, and tactic going on in each touch. I am an experienced DIV1 sabre fencer, and I know firsthand these guys are amazing by even the most critical coach's standards. Suffice it to say you've no idea what you're talking about, nor do I think you care to. Also, it's a sport, a glorified GAME. So it's derived from swordplay. so, what? It has rules. Points. a goal. the end. don't be stupid.
I just wish they would not call this fencing. They are playing with toy swords in a sport so completely deforced from reality that it bears no resemblance to real fencing. These guys are having fun, and are fit and fast; and it is better than playing computer games...but it is not fencing. Fencing is the art of defence using a weapon that can kill; these guys bout with toys & consider tapping someone a millisecond before they hit you a "win",
Check out the brand new 3 weapon box just search for "Fencing scoring box" on youtube as it won't let me attach the url link complete but this is the last part - /watch?v=qoxkHLFAVoI
It's become more of a game. It's 90% offence and it has the artificial right-of-way rules because the "weapon" is so light and fast. Of course, barring a shot in the eye, it couldn't inflict a serious wound
mma takes a lot of skill, its just hard to see to the avg person... just like all i see here is people trying to poke each other with a stick, but i have a strange feeling that a lot more is going on
metal sticks that can rip an eye out, fast precise movements that a ninja probably couldnt match, need to be super fast...yeah. gay and poking. i bet. you try it. its hard as hell.
lmao face you in saber? yea ok, you go ahead and bend your knee and lunge at me, ill grab ur sword out of ur hands and shove it up ur fuckin ass. theres ur sport for u LOL
and im assuming youll do this without any protective clothing :) fine by me i dont mind injuring fucksticks like yourself, you dont stand a fucking chance go act as if your "well ard" somewhere else
Do you attach your coach's eye while watching this video , Mad? If i tell u i am bolt's student ,do i have his running speed? Try taking 1 of them ,u might get a 0:15
Jeez! Wat r u?! Foil? Always tryin to prove ur point in which I am not saying is wrong but half proving my point.... I really don't wanna argue either so i'm just gunna go watch other videos... Merry Christmas everyone and check out my channel cauz I posted some new videos!!!
Very choppy footwork and it looked as if they were balanced because if they were, they one dude wouldn't have done the splits in the beginning. Sometimes, you kinda have to take ur time and not rush cauz thats where you mess up.
1. They may take big steps sometimes, but truly "choppy" footwork is called attack no, so these guys couldn't win bouts if they had choppy footwork.
2. The splits were a last ditch effort at the end of the strip. He knew he wasn't going to get the touch.
3. Of course you shouldn't rush on an attack, but Aldo Montano (the guy who did the splits and also was the gold medalist in the individual in Athens) and Stanislav Podznyakov (who won I believe it was 5 world championships) are poor examples
Ok, I don't want to get into an angry argument, but could you say what specifically you thought was bad about the footwork in this video. (same for the parries)
JEEZ!!!! I do sabre fencing and I have to say that there were some horrible parries in there! (those are blocks) Not to mention the footwork! Guys just like to have it go really fast and not worry about technique
Exuse me!! I am a student of Charles Randall (google him!). He was the national women's sabre fencing coach for Mexico and coached Mariel Zagunis and Becca Ward! I think I would know a little bit about fencing.
Top class fencing. I mean, under thirteens are beginning to get the hang of it, including myself, but what is shown here is about ten times as fast and five times as accurate.
1:45-1:47 is what all fencing, swordfighting, combat is about. controlling distance and taking advantage of a very small moment in distance and timing to simultaneously attack the other and prevent their attack from hitting. for those who think this is just tag with metal sticks and electric lights i assure you that you havent got a clue.
they're not using swords because if they used swords, we would have a lot less fencers. why? because they'd all be dead. it's a sport, not death combat.
and also, this is absolutely sabre fencing. i am a sabre fencer, i can tell you that the slashing and arm/head hitting is not foil or epee.
oh my...ok, so its defiantly saber fencing...(note the speed of each round)...and there not supposed to be like swords, which are specifically meant to kill the other person. Its a sport. Just like boxing, which they wear padded gloves, as to prevent damage. And yes, it is fast, which makes it AWSOME. Those guys are some of the best. Ive fenced saber for three years now, and its great stuff, great stuff...
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i`ll..... i`ll never get it. for fucks sake... they are not fencing with sabres.... these..... retarded objects look more like a Threaded rod then a sword. they dont even remotly remind me of anything ever to be used as some kind of sword.
Well, if they look like swords then they will cause more damage and will be heavier. If you can fence with a sword like saber then i will congratulate you
i dont know too much about fencing at all but is there a fencing style that includes actually using your other hand with another weapon in it? If i were to fence id prefer using two of the sabres, foils, or epee's. if not ill stick to kendo for a bit longer before i do some fencing.
I've just completed my BADC advanced stage combat exam. Our disciplines were smallsword, unarmed, quarterstaff, broadsword and sword and buckler. Obviously stage combat isn't a sport as such, the idea is to make the fight look good by telling the story of it, without hurting each other. It is a lot of fun though, and sword and buckler is an interesting dual-weapon style. The level one exam of this board always seems to involve rapier and dagger, so maybe try that route if you're interested.
That sucks you can't learn it anywhere near you. I plan to take it next semester because at the junior college I am going to has it and my friends all like it.
It's awesome. I just started this quarter at my Uni. I've already become addicted to it. I go out of my way to show up to some last night stuff my coach lets anyone show up to for fun. My coach was taught by Vladimir Nazlymov. I've heard ridiculous stories about that guy.
You should enjoy it a lot, it's a rush. Watching is is nothing compared to actually doing it.
There is no doubt in my mind fencers could kill you will real weapons, Ive been doing it for 2 years and am still astonished how good people are, I have alot to learn
it's interesting how most, if not all, of the movements would clearly be effective in sword fighting (as opposed to sport fencing), but this clearly not sword fighting.
Well... I don't know if the pro fencers would be as good with real weapons, but I must tell you, after fencing for a year I was absolutely unreachable for the very beginners. What olympic fencers are capable of I can't even imagine, it's just crazy, the stuff they can do yo you...
actually, my point was that in many ways it IS like sword fighting, that's why I said that most of the movements would be effective. I believe the attributes would carry over as well.
I disagree, most, if not all, of the techniques that are effective in sport fencing do not translate to historical (combat) fencing, take even the definition of sabre, the weapon that they are using in this clip is absolutely nothing like a combat sabre. The basic attributes of fitness and awareness may carry over, but the difference of paradigm is very large, there would be a lot to unlearn.
The actual physics of it make little sense because your enemy isn't going to run at you and try to blatantly chop your head in a downward motion every time.
And he also isn't going to just go along with the whole "I'm going to flip you while barely exerting myself and then calmly put you into a hand lock" shtick for long.
Sabre vs katana? You mean the real weapons? Simple answer - the most experienced person will win. Both weapons are sharp metal things that will kill you. But agains any type of sword I'd prefer to carry a 9mm.
Oh surely, Kendo is a Japanese fight stile, and you know, Japan was isolated for centuries so any arts of sciences were developing within themselves. While fencing has moves tested and tried pretty much around the entire world, so very efficient. I have done a little bit of fencing and kendo, and I find fencing to be much more effective and efficient than kendo.
You people are fucking stupid tbh. If u dont like the sport do what you like. We all have different needs and interests. I like women, USA3333 likes donkeys so let him... WHo cares.. I love fencing and i always will.
Lol. Well I guess I can't get you to like it then. I have been in fencing for 5 years and have enjoyed it. It has taken me to the Canada Winter Games, Nationals twice and even a World Cup.
I wouldn't knock it until you try it USA3333, but if you do not enjoy it, I respect that. Please respect people who do though. It is harder then you think it is.
thats kinda hard cuz you wear a pathetic body suit. i would play if i only wore eye goggles and the sword thing wasnt so bendy. then it would be like real sword fighting
After all I have written, I want to clarify that in the case of this video, the fencers are using their points often, appear to be using enough force in cuts and thrusts to evoke a wound, etc. I only note the scarcity of head attacks and the low carriage of the saber, far below the waist. Hardly a cavalry carriage! My old fencing maestro, long deceased was Pacific Coast Champ in Saber several times. He always described saber as "dismounted." The distance these two are fencing is very close.
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Shut the fuck up. You are either on of two people. Number 1-Someone who researches fencing and has no life at all, you lost your virginity very late in life and maybe not even at all
Number 2-You are on of those people that goes to a fencing club and can't even win anything and by the way we all have one thing to say to you, get out of the club you muppet
One last thing, you have spelt sabre wrong you retard, its sabre and not saber. I am guessing you aren't the sharpest tool in the box
I suggest you look up the spelling - both are valid. The USFA uses saber. You seem unfamiliar with it so you can't know fencing very well.
I would love to "come out" just to show you what a foul mouthed psychotic you are. I am confident I could deal with you, but its not worth the trouble. I was a long time member - two decades - of one of the most famous clubs in the U.S. and was a top rated fencer. I have also taught a great deal over the years.
You are the one who seems like a newbe and here is why; you don't know that both spellings are valid and haven't even been on the USFA website to learn that - and you are easily upset. Becoming upset easily is a big problem if you hope to be a successful fencer. You will be taken apart by anyone with some bit of experience.
One point where you are a little correct; I am retired, so I have time to post on this site more than others perhaps.
one: everyone who does a sport has a life, compared to people who don't do sports. prob. fat kids like yourself, sitting home in front of the tv or computer the whole day.
but yeah, some sports are really gay, like handball for one, but no.. sabre fencing def. isn't!
two: what's fun about going to a club and beating everyone?? the fun part is fencing with people your own level, and not against people who can't fence.!!
i like fencing with a rapier hilt because its lighter....but a sabre is good
Mrsweeneytodd11 1 month ago
i do this it so fun but it hurts
101tezzy 4 months ago
i really wish that all the people that post the really ignorant comments that just make them sound like an idiot would stop watching fencing videos
uoessej 4 months ago
This sport is interesting....
FedericoJimbo 6 months ago
mariylin manson is about as gay as this video,you know they wanna have a full blown cock fight loool
nate11577 7 months ago
any how rly good fencing i wish i could fence like this lol
kickyour99 7 months ago
@ScagAteHer epee is no good sabre is better =P
kickyour99 7 months ago
Nice video !
Mr1fifoou 9 months ago
i fence epee. less excitement. but still awesome
ScagAteHer 10 months ago
It's somewhat disturbing how well the song fits this art. Quite disturbing.
CalestaWillis 11 months ago
The best sabre ever is Polish cavalry hussar sabre from 1630!!! It is the best fencing weapon ever!!!
look here:
/watch?v=pHP4pSQvbxk
/watch?v=n6IcZnx1flI
/watch?v=voxErBJyFuw
GregorMar 1 year ago
My favorite weapon!
kendoka0girl 1 year ago
Marilyn Manson = GAY MUSIC
Antimellas 1 year ago
all those years of training technique... gone...
nnikb7 1 year ago
Great looking sport. Never really looked at it before.
lollipopfop 1 year ago
fullspeeddave: You're so wrong, while the sport is somewhat divorced from real sword fighting it's not a difficult step to transfer it to a real weapon which can be wielded very quickly making the skills of distance, lunge and parry completely relevant. Given real weapons a fencer would be far more prepared for the fight than anyone else, that was why the sport was created, the fundamentals are the same.
Squeallikeafrig 1 year ago 2
@Squeallikeafrig
it is very much divorced i might say. if you had an opponent wielding a real, sharp sabre, then you would not be jumping back and forth in a line. nor waving around with you own sword. they would maybe have an eye for the distance but since they care not of being hit one second afterward, they have not trained to parry for an afterblow (even if the opponent might have died by your hit, his/her sword might still be going toward you)
DarkViktor 1 year ago
@DarkViktor Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. All competant sabre fencers are taught to counter parry-repost (parrying "afterblows"). It's not always necessary (like if i'm slicing you open while you're arm's in the air). Don't surmise the complexity of a sport by just a video of glory shots. Everything in their form, and actions has a reason and a powerful effect in illiciting mistakes from their opponent so they can hit without being hit (LIKE REAL SWORDS?!? o.0)
DDRKnightProductions 1 year ago
@DDRKnightProductions 80% of the time they were getting hit at the same time... which would mean either they have shitty defence or all they know is how to reach a little bit further to tap the other person for a point... from wat i see they know how to run and attack
wat darkviktor is saying is true, that 80% of the time would mean both people would get a fatal or serious wound or b dead :P if it was real, doubt they would b dead though... a simple stab to the shoulder isnt going to kill lol
nomnomieatu 10 months ago
@nomnomieatu I don't have enough words on a youtube reply to actually explain all the feints, athleticism, and tactic going on in each touch. I am an experienced DIV1 sabre fencer, and I know firsthand these guys are amazing by even the most critical coach's standards. Suffice it to say you've no idea what you're talking about, nor do I think you care to. Also, it's a sport, a glorified GAME. So it's derived from swordplay. so, what? It has rules. Points. a goal. the end. don't be stupid.
DDRKnightProductions 10 months ago 2
0:41 both think that was their point :D
RoanTheOne 1 year ago
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Left fencer Attack no, right fencer riposte no, left fencer remise of the attack; touche.
PodzniakovisElite 1 year ago
I just wish they would not call this fencing. They are playing with toy swords in a sport so completely deforced from reality that it bears no resemblance to real fencing. These guys are having fun, and are fit and fast; and it is better than playing computer games...but it is not fencing. Fencing is the art of defence using a weapon that can kill; these guys bout with toys & consider tapping someone a millisecond before they hit you a "win",
fullspeeddave 1 year ago
@fullspeeddave
Can you show us real fencing then? I would take one of these guys in SCA Rapier Combat or whatever anyday over the regular "Classical" fencer.
PodzniakovisElite 1 year ago
Nice sport. Pity it has not much relationship with real sword fencing.
duran3d 1 year ago
@duran3d actually it really is
mumufufu922 1 year ago
i luv sabre fencing so much
paintballer183t 1 year ago
Hella yeah to fencing + Marilyn
sasitagal 1 year ago
I BLOODY LOVE FENCING!!!!!
montyhund 1 year ago
Check out the brand new 3 weapon box just search for "Fencing scoring box" on youtube as it won't let me attach the url link complete but this is the last part - /watch?v=qoxkHLFAVoI
bodylanguageman 1 year ago
What the hell were you thinking when you choose this music?
13370wn4g 1 year ago 26
@13370wn4g It's good music, to this video. Manson loves special efects and some show. Sabre fencers are the same, it's the bigest show in fencing.
Lennroe 9 months ago
@13370wn4g I think the music goes really well with the video ^^
Illienaify 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
I Love sabre but its hard to find people in my area using it most people go for epee
adhdboy699 1 year ago
possibly the worst choice in music ever for this.
Venim0 1 year ago 3
like the music, was foil for a long time, then went to sabre... havent looked back
demious810 1 year ago
how did you associate saber with marilyn manson??? terrible, terrible music...great bout, though. :)
fencRGirl 1 year ago
@fencRGirl Fuck you, Mansons awesome!
lorcan454 1 year ago
I prefer Sabre, prefer to slice and dice rather than stab and prick.
Genohertz 1 year ago
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BOO SABRE. GO FOIL
earthstrum 1 year ago
Wow....
Does anyone know where to find a beginner foil class in St. Louis during the summer? I'd like to learn but I'm having a hard time finding one.
SirCaseyoftheLea 1 year ago
good fight
kollos15 1 year ago
I've never seen real fencing before. Just lots of flynning, so I looked for a clip on youtube and holy shit! Those guys are quick!
circuscircus 2 years ago
It's become more of a game. It's 90% offence and it has the artificial right-of-way rules because the "weapon" is so light and fast. Of course, barring a shot in the eye, it couldn't inflict a serious wound
66Scorpio 2 years ago
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...what a load of rubish...
hULIgan0 2 years ago
i fence sabre its so awesome ^__^
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k351fp 2 years ago
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this is probably about the gayest excuse for a sport i have ever seen... they are poking eachother with sticks? LOL
BowToMySkill 2 years ago
football is a bouch of sweaty men weasling in the grass
frappemresh 2 years ago 3
no this is sabre and you can strike your opponents from waist above
this is a great sport and it requires much more skills than most other sports
hankim0624 2 years ago
More manly than most sports. Ultimate fighting for example is basically just 20 minutes of sweaty dick punching.
Vampmonkey616 2 years ago 2
mma takes a lot of skill, its just hard to see to the avg person... just like all i see here is people trying to poke each other with a stick, but i have a strange feeling that a lot more is going on
xesogycit 2 years ago
it's like most sports...
If I look at football, I can only see some big dudes crashing into each others, but I know there is so much more then that...
Karterii 2 years ago 2
@Vampmonkey616
LMAO dick punching though? Thats funny as hell
Kojiben 1 year ago
you know nothing about this sport dude thats your problem sticks lol to you dude
GIOO8 2 years ago
thats funny!
jekylfoot 2 years ago
metal sticks that can rip an eye out, fast precise movements that a ninja probably couldnt match, need to be super fast...yeah. gay and poking. i bet. you try it. its hard as hell.
ninjaofthe9seas 2 years ago
lets see how well you stand against me in sabre then you have no idea how much skill and speed is required in this
cheesenibbler123 2 years ago
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lmao face you in saber? yea ok, you go ahead and bend your knee and lunge at me, ill grab ur sword out of ur hands and shove it up ur fuckin ass. theres ur sport for u LOL
BowToMySkill 1 year ago
and im assuming youll do this without any protective clothing :) fine by me i dont mind injuring fucksticks like yourself, you dont stand a fucking chance go act as if your "well ard" somewhere else
cheesenibbler123 1 year ago
If I remeber right, if you try that with a live blade you would lose a finger or two.
Skyseeker101 1 year ago
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k351fp 1 year ago
Theyy are going for the speed here...
I dont think they care too much about footwork, Its good ENOUGH, not PERFECt...
Instead they are interested in going unorhtodox and surprising their enemies
And with both of them doing that, there isnt much scope for footwork, its sheer speed that seems to control
frogeyedpeas 2 years ago
i fenced a girl that was going to the Olympics she was a really great competitor and she ripped me a new ass ahaha
vath20 2 years ago 3
Do you attach your coach's eye while watching this video , Mad? If i tell u i am bolt's student ,do i have his running speed? Try taking 1 of them ,u might get a 0:15
c4d4e4 2 years ago
There is no way that Podznyakov has bad footwork.
imthecity 2 years ago
Jeez! Wat r u?! Foil? Always tryin to prove ur point in which I am not saying is wrong but half proving my point.... I really don't wanna argue either so i'm just gunna go watch other videos... Merry Christmas everyone and check out my channel cauz I posted some new videos!!!
MadCrazyMaddie 2 years ago
@MadCrazyMaddie ahhaahahah proving your point...get it? foilist proving his point... :)
0xXNirvanaXx0 1 year ago
Very choppy footwork and it looked as if they were balanced because if they were, they one dude wouldn't have done the splits in the beginning. Sometimes, you kinda have to take ur time and not rush cauz thats where you mess up.
MadCrazyMaddie 2 years ago
1. They may take big steps sometimes, but truly "choppy" footwork is called attack no, so these guys couldn't win bouts if they had choppy footwork.
2. The splits were a last ditch effort at the end of the strip. He knew he wasn't going to get the touch.
3. Of course you shouldn't rush on an attack, but Aldo Montano (the guy who did the splits and also was the gold medalist in the individual in Athens) and Stanislav Podznyakov (who won I believe it was 5 world championships) are poor examples
searman77 2 years ago
Ok, I don't want to get into an angry argument, but could you say what specifically you thought was bad about the footwork in this video. (same for the parries)
searman77 2 years ago
JEEZ!!!! I do sabre fencing and I have to say that there were some horrible parries in there! (those are blocks) Not to mention the footwork! Guys just like to have it go really fast and not worry about technique
MadCrazyMaddie 2 years ago
MadCrazyMaddie, these are some of the best saber fencers of the past decade....
searman77 2 years ago
Exuse me!! I am a student of Charles Randall (google him!). He was the national women's sabre fencing coach for Mexico and coached Mariel Zagunis and Becca Ward! I think I would know a little bit about fencing.
MadCrazyMaddie 2 years ago
Top class fencing. I mean, under thirteens are beginning to get the hang of it, including myself, but what is shown here is about ten times as fast and five times as accurate.
Kamykmichas 2 years ago
pozdnyakov!
jiri1991 2 years ago
1:45-1:47 is what all fencing, swordfighting, combat is about. controlling distance and taking advantage of a very small moment in distance and timing to simultaneously attack the other and prevent their attack from hitting. for those who think this is just tag with metal sticks and electric lights i assure you that you havent got a clue.
deazujuma 2 years ago 2
i completely dissagree with you guys about how they celeabrate. if u were in the olimplics, u would be excited too
MrHello2933 2 years ago
it is indeed childish. I went to a tournament and won first place with a jammed thumb. Even i was not partying like these guys man....
killerfencer 2 years ago
i was out trying fencing with my basket team last week. and EVERYONADECELEBRATED like that after every point they made...
IDidTheKone 2 years ago
In the fencing that i do is trying to be humble and not overly confident
killerfencer 2 years ago
It really irritates me when these fencers celebrate wildly everytime the score a point. Very childish.
calkyb 2 years ago
haha how is this so confusing
they're not using swords because if they used swords, we would have a lot less fencers. why? because they'd all be dead. it's a sport, not death combat.
and also, this is absolutely sabre fencing. i am a sabre fencer, i can tell you that the slashing and arm/head hitting is not foil or epee.
0nhfkil 2 years ago
Wow. Those fights are really fast, and short.
Filmmaster91 2 years ago
oh my...ok, so its defiantly saber fencing...(note the speed of each round)...and there not supposed to be like swords, which are specifically meant to kill the other person. Its a sport. Just like boxing, which they wear padded gloves, as to prevent damage. And yes, it is fast, which makes it AWSOME. Those guys are some of the best. Ive fenced saber for three years now, and its great stuff, great stuff...
territh17 2 years ago
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i`ll..... i`ll never get it. for fucks sake... they are not fencing with sabres.... these..... retarded objects look more like a Threaded rod then a sword. they dont even remotly remind me of anything ever to be used as some kind of sword.
lobster9207 2 years ago
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It's not sabre fencing... it's foil fencing!!
Urushamsa 2 years ago
No, those are definitely sabers and they are hitting arms which you cannot do in foil
kimaniv 2 years ago
Well, if they look like swords then they will cause more damage and will be heavier. If you can fence with a sword like saber then i will congratulate you
kimaniv 2 years ago
well fine i understand that, but then it shouldnt be called sabre fencing. its like a drag car racer in a stock car derby. wrong!
lobster9207 2 years ago
I like the music. Its odd. But not bad.
lollipopfop 2 years ago
bad music, good fencing. Well, fencing is what matters.
fantorjhs 2 years ago 3
2:04 Holy shit! Now that's bladework! (Not that the footwork wasn't also great.)
calderwis 2 years ago
great sport,one of best..
MsPoemas 2 years ago 2
its funny when the gut felt and did the spread hahaha
InnerSilence123 2 years ago
I like fencing, and I like Marilyn Manson, but this is a combination too awkward to even put into words.
Raphite1 2 years ago
awesome sport.
donvito4221 2 years ago
what you se on film and what you see here, has nothing to do with eachother
like allonewordy is saying
waffeldrip 2 years ago
its amazing guys wonderful speed and great playing ...... keep it fencing ;)
Frrotty 2 years ago
What a return from Russia!!
aahhrg01 2 years ago
i dont know too much about fencing at all but is there a fencing style that includes actually using your other hand with another weapon in it? If i were to fence id prefer using two of the sabres, foils, or epee's. if not ill stick to kendo for a bit longer before i do some fencing.
Vobis23 2 years ago
I've just completed my BADC advanced stage combat exam. Our disciplines were smallsword, unarmed, quarterstaff, broadsword and sword and buckler. Obviously stage combat isn't a sport as such, the idea is to make the fight look good by telling the story of it, without hurting each other. It is a lot of fun though, and sword and buckler is an interesting dual-weapon style. The level one exam of this board always seems to involve rapier and dagger, so maybe try that route if you're interested.
allonewordy 2 years ago
so BADC is sought like drama
jack29292 2 years ago
British Academy of Dramatic Combat. Yeah, it's stage combat.
allonewordy 2 years ago
ur thinking of Medival style fencing, which is much different from poin tfencing. Different weapons r used.
vitaminB100 2 years ago
Yup historical fencing, the combat art as opposed to the sport.
mrAbaterWhite 2 years ago
i fence and now im in advance sabre!
magicwizard232 2 years ago
Also watching the Three musketeers right now so this made me want to look up sabre.
BboyFeeney 2 years ago
I want to learn how to fence so bad. Unfortuntaly, nowhere near me offers it.
funkybeat01 2 years ago
That sucks you can't learn it anywhere near you. I plan to take it next semester because at the junior college I am going to has it and my friends all like it.
BboyFeeney 2 years ago
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DarkNinjaSnake 2 years ago
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It's awesome. I just started this quarter at my Uni. I've already become addicted to it. I go out of my way to show up to some last night stuff my coach lets anyone show up to for fun. My coach was taught by Vladimir Nazlymov. I've heard ridiculous stories about that guy.
You should enjoy it a lot, it's a rush. Watching is is nothing compared to actually doing it.
DarkNinjaSnake 2 years ago 2
wow great to watch I've been fenceing for about a year it's good to see more advanced fencers.
akualtekefan 2 years ago
There is no doubt in my mind fencers could kill you will real weapons, Ive been doing it for 2 years and am still astonished how good people are, I have alot to learn
alecgallagher 2 years ago
i've been fencing 7 years but still really bad :L
laurenaaf 2 years ago
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Im a world sabre fencer ive won 1st first place in all the olymics so shut up people fencing is amazing
coffeefreak123456789 2 years ago
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Fecing is Gay... I tryed it and didn't like it. what is the Point in moving in a Damn line? Am going for Kendo now.
AmercanMuslimPatriot 2 years ago
Fucking troll.
Adriatic478 2 years ago 2
ok... I did like a little but still moving in a line still?
AmercanMuslimPatriot 2 years ago
kendo is japanese fencing
kevincc13 2 years ago
I know least you have room instede of a line.
AmercanMuslimPatriot 2 years ago
True, also, why the hell swimmers swim in lines, why not go in circles? Or better yet, in spirals, full 3D, yeah baby!
Shumeshi 2 years ago 3
it's interesting how most, if not all, of the movements would clearly be effective in sword fighting (as opposed to sport fencing), but this clearly not sword fighting.
seadawg93 2 years ago
Well... I don't know if the pro fencers would be as good with real weapons, but I must tell you, after fencing for a year I was absolutely unreachable for the very beginners. What olympic fencers are capable of I can't even imagine, it's just crazy, the stuff they can do yo you...
Shumeshi 2 years ago 2
This is sport fencing and of course it's not like sword fighting like all sports it evolved.
maxk89 2 years ago
actually, my point was that in many ways it IS like sword fighting, that's why I said that most of the movements would be effective. I believe the attributes would carry over as well.
seadawg93 2 years ago
I disagree, most, if not all, of the techniques that are effective in sport fencing do not translate to historical (combat) fencing, take even the definition of sabre, the weapon that they are using in this clip is absolutely nothing like a combat sabre. The basic attributes of fitness and awareness may carry over, but the difference of paradigm is very large, there would be a lot to unlearn.
mrAbaterWhite 2 years ago
i miss fencing, damn knee
Liliah121 2 years ago
yeah me too :(
katjordan1 2 years ago
i know what you mean
whothei0 2 years ago
wow. it always looks so neat and choreographed in the movies but i guess like real fighting it doesn't have to look pretty to be effective.
attdrone 2 years ago
that was intense
Rubyjuke719 2 years ago
I would learn how to fence with heavier baldes, combined with a lot of training in Aikidio and Jujitsu, and THEN Karate.
overteen8 2 years ago
Aikido is really only good for the hand locks.
The actual physics of it make little sense because your enemy isn't going to run at you and try to blatantly chop your head in a downward motion every time.
And he also isn't going to just go along with the whole "I'm going to flip you while barely exerting myself and then calmly put you into a hand lock" shtick for long.
webbster5296 2 years ago
i like the touch at 0:43
KarlTheStampede 2 years ago
lets see the sabre against a katana
Rageah0lic 2 years ago
lets see a Ferrari against a Hayabusa
shouldn't compare that ....
-.-
Tisilein 2 years ago
Sabre vs katana? You mean the real weapons? Simple answer - the most experienced person will win. Both weapons are sharp metal things that will kill you. But agains any type of sword I'd prefer to carry a 9mm.
Shumeshi 2 years ago 4
they've actually done fencing vs kendo lol. little trials. in all honesty. a sabre could defeat a katana just as easily imo.
rifler27 2 years ago
Oh surely, Kendo is a Japanese fight stile, and you know, Japan was isolated for centuries so any arts of sciences were developing within themselves. While fencing has moves tested and tried pretty much around the entire world, so very efficient. I have done a little bit of fencing and kendo, and I find fencing to be much more effective and efficient than kendo.
Samuella133 2 years ago 2
thank you for the video. Pure Physical Chess. I used to do in college. I would be dead after one bout till 15 - it's very hard!
Gothearl 2 years ago
Good video!
OlympicGamesTV 2 years ago
You people are fucking stupid tbh. If u dont like the sport do what you like. We all have different needs and interests. I like women, USA3333 likes donkeys so let him... WHo cares.. I love fencing and i always will.
quadas 2 years ago
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so u like getting prodded by another mans pole?
USA3333 2 years ago
Your just pissed because you know you could never do it yourself.
LeClair20 2 years ago 4
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u really think so? lol you must be retarded then
USA3333 2 years ago
Lol. Well I guess I can't get you to like it then. I have been in fencing for 5 years and have enjoyed it. It has taken me to the Canada Winter Games, Nationals twice and even a World Cup.
I wouldn't knock it until you try it USA3333, but if you do not enjoy it, I respect that. Please respect people who do though. It is harder then you think it is.
LeClair20 2 years ago
I think USA3333 is just trolling.
samoasneoartform 2 years ago
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this is a gay "sport"
USA3333 2 years ago
I would love to see you try it before you open your mouth
midgegget210 2 years ago 6
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yea right. i would play a real sport
USA3333 2 years ago
Come on...try it big-mouth!!!
But be careful that no one rips off your ass!!!
Sucker!
leuchtfeuer1 2 years ago
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rips off my ass??
thats kinda hard cuz you wear a pathetic body suit. i would play if i only wore eye goggles and the sword thing wasnt so bendy. then it would be like real sword fighting
USA3333 2 years ago
USA, i would like to see you try
And i'm not surprised by your name...
USA=stupid country
KarlTheStampede 2 years ago
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a stereotypical comment lol
thats a sign of insecurity for your gay sport. what country do you live in? i bet you arent successful as me
USA3333 2 years ago
what do you do?
gabbytron001 2 years ago
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gabby:
i do football and baseball and tennis. i like all sports though, except fencing
USA3333 2 years ago
What is your problem with fencing?
deathsminion25 2 years ago
O cretino!!! vai vai a spigare i campi!! deficente...
misskiarina 2 years ago
Wow, this is what Sabre fencing's all about!
DDRKnightProductions 2 years ago
Great clip! Great music and great fencing scenes!
Sabre is still the most interesting and fascinating weapon in fencing!
leuchtfeuer1 2 years ago
i totaly agree sabre aaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
laurenaaf 2 years ago
aye, aaf. some kid like chipped my elbow today in it.
Renikor 2 years ago
um how?
xxx
laurenaaf 2 years ago
i was getting geared up and he swung and hit my elbow :/
Renikor 2 years ago
that was smart :P
you got msn?
xxx
laurenaaf 2 years ago
no, aim
Renikor 2 years ago
total newbie?
xxx
laurenaaf 2 years ago
foils cool too. i do both
rockingit11 2 years ago
eh eh with the right music and good pic fencing become amazing!
acterHeli 3 years ago
After all I have written, I want to clarify that in the case of this video, the fencers are using their points often, appear to be using enough force in cuts and thrusts to evoke a wound, etc. I only note the scarcity of head attacks and the low carriage of the saber, far below the waist. Hardly a cavalry carriage! My old fencing maestro, long deceased was Pacific Coast Champ in Saber several times. He always described saber as "dismounted." The distance these two are fencing is very close.
deaddoc 3 years ago
It does seem like they're close, but it's not the way they're fencing.
I saw this video in the proper format and the distance was fine. The user changed the format so now it looks like they're fencing really close.
PodzniakovisElite 2 years ago
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Shut the fuck up. You are either on of two people. Number 1-Someone who researches fencing and has no life at all, you lost your virginity very late in life and maybe not even at all
Number 2-You are on of those people that goes to a fencing club and can't even win anything and by the way we all have one thing to say to you, get out of the club you muppet
One last thing, you have spelt sabre wrong you retard, its sabre and not saber. I am guessing you aren't the sharpest tool in the box
94leinad94 2 years ago
New English Americans spell it Saber. The Old English...or British spell it Sabre. Does it matter that much?
PodzniakovisElite 2 years ago
I suggest you look up the spelling - both are valid. The USFA uses saber. You seem unfamiliar with it so you can't know fencing very well.
I would love to "come out" just to show you what a foul mouthed psychotic you are. I am confident I could deal with you, but its not worth the trouble. I was a long time member - two decades - of one of the most famous clubs in the U.S. and was a top rated fencer. I have also taught a great deal over the years.
deaddoc 2 years ago
You are the one who seems like a newbe and here is why; you don't know that both spellings are valid and haven't even been on the USFA website to learn that - and you are easily upset. Becoming upset easily is a big problem if you hope to be a successful fencer. You will be taken apart by anyone with some bit of experience.
One point where you are a little correct; I am retired, so I have time to post on this site more than others perhaps.
deaddoc 2 years ago
jesus calm down wtf is wrong with u
so what he does research into it? maybe he might be interested? committed? maybe he has more than a pair of braincells to bash together?
who cares if u cant win thats the whole point of going and getting practice u tard
bobmegee 2 years ago
94leinad94:
one: everyone who does a sport has a life, compared to people who don't do sports. prob. fat kids like yourself, sitting home in front of the tv or computer the whole day.
but yeah, some sports are really gay, like handball for one, but no.. sabre fencing def. isn't!
two: what's fun about going to a club and beating everyone?? the fun part is fencing with people your own level, and not against people who can't fence.!!
AmandaSEARSsport 2 years ago