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  • if you were to build a new rig would you go with intel or amd

  • Can I get add ons for this on my Nintendo 64

  • hey man, could i play this game on high/ultra with these specs:

    CPU: i5 2500k 3.3Ghz.

    GPU: Ati Radeon 3870HD X2 ( not crossfire but dual core 1GB. )

    Ram: 8GB ripjawzX ddr3 1333 Ghz.

    And if my GPU is too low, what do you recommend for me than ? ( NO GPU FOR 200 dollars or more. ) ( just 150 or something. )

  • @DeaDlyGenKill HD6870 a 3870x2 should work too.

  • @SubaruHyena Dude, I'm planning on getting an HD6850 and overclocking it. I was also thinking if I should buy a FX 6100 or a Phenom 965. Any idea on them?

  • @illidanomg1 At this point in time I'd not recommend the 6850 because the 6870 right now can easily be had for like $149 after rebates. As for a FX 6100 VS a 965 it's just all preference and what you want to do and how you run your computer. I personally will be working in photoshop while rendering a project and encoding a DVD all at the same time with Firefox and IM and everything open, so I need a 8 core FX or a core i7SBE. if you multitask then a 6100 is fine, if not then either.

  • @SubaruHyena Well I usually just play games, listen to music and have google chrome open all the time. I think I will buy 6100 it's turbo unlocked to 4ghz and the downside for phenom 965 is the increased voltage usage and it's damn hot!

  • @illidanomg1 A FX 6100 should work well for you then, though if you can I think the 8120 is only like $40 more and I think it's a little better of a deal. Either way they're nice processors, I've enjoyed mine. And that Corsair should be fine too.

  • @SubaruHyena sry for double reply but I used newegg psu calculator and it said something like 427 W but I want to buy a corsair CMPSU-600G. Bear in mind I want to use this PSU for a long time.

  • @illidanomg1 Bulldozer is absolutely terrible. The i5 2500k (3.3 quad) beats the FX 8150(3.6 8-core), no problem. The 2500k is $199 on sale and will drop to $179 very soon. Don't take my word for it---look at the benches for yourself. Oh, and by the way.. the intel ****k series over clocks like a beast.

  • I'm planning to do a video that features a huge battle once I get my new computer. Do you think this is a good rig?

    4 X 2GB DDR3-1333 Gaming Grade Memory Module:

    Storage Capacity: 4 x 2GB

    Technology: DDR3-1333

    Intel Core i5 2400 Processor with Motherboard: 3.10GHz 6MB cache Quad-core processor with HT technology for 8 threads

    ATI Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card with 800W Power Supply

    I'm planning to make the graphics high for machinima grade work.

  • @Computergeew no offense, but it's not entirely well balanced. If I may make some recommendations. go with 2X 4GB DDR3 1600 or faster sticks of ram for 8GB total, If you want to go with an i5 that's fine, but the i5 is quad core only, if you want 4 cores and 8 threads you have to buy a Core i7 or a AMD FX 81xx processor.

    a AMD HD6870 should be fine, but if you can buy a HD68xx cheap or wait for the HD8xxx series. You probably only need a good quality 650W power supply as well.

  • @SubaruHyena Thanks. The RAM I was getting did say 8GB though.. Honestly I don't know worth crap about computers, even though I would like to. So I bought this bundle online from Walmart that let me chose what components I wanted. Everything but the Processor met beyond the recommended requirements. The processor was quad (the requirements weren't so specific). They said that my computer would come with everything inside the computer...

  • why my pc is lagging on 1080p , AMD Phanom x4 II 3,2 GHz 4 ,GB Ram and a good Grafic card?

  • I got a xbox360 .....and i never need to worry about upgrading lifes good!

  • Morrowind is my favorite elder scrolls, and my phone could max it.

  • what do you use to record your gameplay?

  • @Karafar i just read the description fully and i saw that FRAPS is being used

  • @gearzofnubz no not really, i just wish it was multiplayer

  • im pretty sure real gamers dont give a fuck about graphics, only gameplay story etc. graphics are good though btw

  • @Cpillin425 u crazy? AMD Phenom II x4 965 ? Old?

    Lol i have a AMD Phenom II x4 960T and it's unlockable and it rockz!

  • Bah, you kids today with your fancy graphics!!

    You have yet to experience the wonders of 8-bit Megaman!

  • pc for gamers perfection :D

  • i have an MSI Twin Frozr II/OC 6870 4gb RAM,2TB HDD and Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.4GHz-4.40GHz,nothing overclocked,and it lags like a bitch on her period man,it doesnt lag at all only when on medium....any tips to play Skyrim on ultra settings and not lag???please I need help...xD :P

  • @reymysterio136 wtf ,my processor is only i7 2.93 i can play crisis on ultra and ultra realistic mods and battlefield 3 on ultra also is no problem. Skyrim has shitty graphics compared to the shit I usually play. I dont know but there must be another problem man

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki damn :/ I can play Crysis on ultra too without probs...could it be the fact that I have like 30 games installed? xD or the non-genuine(not bought)windows 7??or even the 4gbs of RAM...xD

  • @reymysterio136 hi i have the same problem on 6870 with scyrim but running at amd x6 3.0 ghz 1075t. did you find any solution for this if yes please let me know what did you do .

  • @erenei not yet,man,If I do,I'll inform you :)

  • @reymysterio136 i traied to update dhe gpu driver at the latest one 12.1 and update the game alsow ate the secound update relised. and jet it didn't work . i get from 14-21 fps with fraps. and over all it have shity graphycs too

  • You are a Rich Man... :(

  • 20-30 fps? My computer is running Skyrim better than yours lol And I only have an old Phenom II x4 965 with 2xhd5770 and 8 gig ram. Well then, thank you for the video, now I know "upgrading" to a bulldozer processor and HD6000 series would be a waste of money.

  • @Cpillin425 See my video "Skyrim Performance Drivers" the bulldozer kicks your Phenoms ass as well does the 6870 kick your 5770's ass. If you had paid any attention to the date when this video was uploaded (november 10th) You would realize this is on unsupported drivers. With drivers 11.12 I get 60+ indoors, 60+ outdoors, and that's at 1080p with all high or ultra settings with all draw distances maxed and shadows on ultra...you lose, good day sir.

  • @SubaruHyena lol you really crashed his party lol

  • @SubaruHyena I guess Cpillin425 left himself wide open for the butt kickin you gave him. Even without the driver update, it looks like you were getting decent FPS. At least better than me with my dinosaur gfx card, which wasn't on the update list for those drivers :(

  • @SubaruHyena actually it is a fact the phenom II x4 is a better gaming cpu then bulldozer as of today even with the MS patch (2/10/12), but dozer wins in multi-threaded apps hands down. Everything else you said was accurate, and thanks for the video! I have a 5770 waiting on a 7870 so I can max out skyrim :)

  • @LBGreenthumb The only Phenom II I've seen that "is better at gaming" are the 6 core and the X4 980 3.7GHz all those cost nearly as much as a 8 core 8120 anyway, if all you wanna do is game 24/7 then you should get a i5 2300. I use applications that will use all 8 cores all day long, so even a 2500k isn't good enough for my needs.

    Also though, my 8150 overclocks like a motherfucker. 4.5GHz and more room to go, it's beating out my roommate's 2600k at 4GHz in 3D mark 11

  • @SubaruHyena in 3D Mark 11? thats hardly a great cpu benchmark...

  • @LBGreenthumb Oh also, don't buy a 7870 just to play Skyrim. You could easily get away most likely with a 7770 because I'm running the High resolution texture pack at 1080p fully maxed draw distanced everything on high on just the single HD6870 (Video of it in progress) and I'm still ~60fps.

    If you're going to buy a 7870 do it for other games like Crysis 2, Battlefield 3, Dirt 3/Grid 2, Batman Arkham City; games that actually have DX11 and tessellation.

  • @SubaruHyena I have the X4 980 at 3.9GHz and I plan on putting that 7870 to work, alot of BF3, Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, it will pushed to the limits. Also I have AM3 mobo so I will upgrade to piledriver when its released.

  • @LBGreenthumb Ohh I gotcha. And just as a FYI PileDriver is going to be AM3+ so I'd recommend upgrading to a chipset at a minimum of 990X, there might be a new chip following PileDriver with PCI E 3.0 on it or something like that, but then again I don't think there's really a difference between 2.0 and 3.0.

    Congrats on getting a 7xxx series though, I'm envious. I'm probably going to hold out until the HD89xx series since I'm happy with my HD6870 from Asus.

  • @SubaruHyena typo on my part I have a AM3+ board (gigabyte 990fxa-ud3), as far as the pci=e 3.0 goes it wont be need for a while so Im fine with pci-e 2.0

  • @Cpillin425 It's obviously not running with the 1.4 epicly performance booster patch, look at the date of the video...

  • @Cpillin425 Get raped bitch.

  • @Cpillin425 Been owned

  • @Cpillin425 you forgot to tell dude that you damaged your years from noise of 2 graphics and that your power supply is going to crash soon , wait to summer it will be very hot in your room - sweat time

  • @Cpillin425 well the 5770 is actually a pretty good card. i wish i could still find it. and the HD 6000 series cards are great. same goes for hte Bulldozer series. i can run skyrim no problem on ultra at 80+fps with my GTS 450 and AMD fx 4100 bulldozer (oc'ed to 4.6 ghz but it doesnt alter performance all that much on skyrim :P)

  • @Manbeast465 Cool story, bro.

  • kajhit are a terrible idea for a race... why make dwarves extinct? why cant you be a dwarf?

    i think the elves in this game look creepy too, not in a good way. i thought the feel of elves in oblivion was better; they have a distinguishing voice in oblivion, but in this game nords and elves sound the same.

    and why dont you have to eat food and drink water to survive? why no hardcore mode?

    whats with the emo music? no happy music like in oblivion.

    bravo on the graphics

  • @AfrikaaBombeetza why you cant be a dwarf? i think they need some ideas for DLCs too, you know they cant take all ideas in the beginning of the game then just crap DLCs :)

  • kitty want catnip??

    i was a nord on this game until i took an arrow to the knee.. now im an Orc

  • stupid assholes comparing pc and consoles.. lmao ofc pc wins, consoles are old.... i dont like pc gaming i feel nerdy at it, also i dont play that much of games i only play bf3/mw3..

  • I have a ps3. I use it as dvd player

    Pc is the real gamer experiance

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki yeah i love how if i was a pc gamer i would have to pay for a new expensive graphics card every time a new game came out........not with consoles :)

  • @cmann07948 Yeah you know, you just have graphics from ... 2005.

    Oh and btw, people who bought a nvidia 8800 can still run every pc game on the market... and that series released November 2006 and those games will still look better on a Nvidia 8800 than they will on the old ass xbox 360 which was the power of a "middle range pc" when it was first released...don't forget RROD. My friend has gone through 3 xbox 360's because of RROD, that's $~900

  • @cmann07948 dude ps3 graphics are on the level of 2005 graphic cards. you dont need a 3000 dollar pc for gaming you can pay like 1 k dollars and the pc will last longer then your ps3 for sure

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki should've gotten a ps2 instead, much cheaper

  • @dessan18 yea but ps3 can read blurays :)

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki yea but you said dvd player not blueray player

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki Really depends on what games you're playing.. for PC it's more like FPS and RPG games.

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki best comment ive ever seen on youtube!

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki i use both as dvd players

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki i have a computer i use it to watch porn

  • @Howsurcroch 99% of humanity do this my friend

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki Games like Skyrim that are meant for console barely look much better on PC than on console.

  • @Blurtex33 Thats the sad part xD

  • @Blurtex33 FALSE, do your research before making comments like that, skyrim settings (360/ps3) 1280x720 25-30fps medium settings, low view distance (gaming pc) 1080p 60fps+ ultra settings, full view distance. Plus bethesda released an official high res texture pack for the pc version this week, so if you couldn't see the difference before you sure will now. You should look at full res side by side screenshots not at youtube videos. I have skyrim for PC and 360.

  • @LBGreenthumb Still, I don't see an upgrade from high to ultra to be worth it. Just my opinion.

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki I sold my ps3 after 3 months because I noticed that I never opened the box ;)

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki even though im a pc gamer i wouldnt say pc is "a real gamer experience" Playing a good ego shooter with a big tv and a controller is also sweet

  • @BluescapeProductions Even though I agree, I play pc games on a 32* TV with a xbox controler. What i meant is that pc games have more possibilities expecially when we,re talking about graphics. Hell How old is the ps3 by now ? 5 years ? Consoles are bullshit and in the end they ruin the progress of graphic engines. Just look at cryengine3 they limited it so its easier making games for consoles. I mean if ther were no consoles then crisis graphics would be shit these days

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki i have a ps3 and it fucking locks up completely when i try to play skyrim for more than 20 mins or so

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki I have a ps3.... it runs at over 1000 fps.. Im not joking,

  • @KentanioShlegustov Okay, sure.

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki YOUR AN IDIOT. BLUE RAY PLAYER ARE LIKE 100 DOLLARS. WHY NOT BUY THAT INSTEAD. I OWN AN XBOX I ONLY USE IT FOR LIVE TV. (YES, YOU CAN WATCH LIVE TV ON THE XBOX)

  • @luisrock2008 Fail fanboy

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki I was being sarcastic about the xbox retard.

  • @luisrock2008 then I apologize but ur comment wasnt funny cuz it seemed you really are stupid :3 sry tho

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki its ok.

  • @MugiwaraNoGintoki ya with all the hacking and modding...of course

  • you play as a cat you look ridiculous hehe

  • can someone please tell me if there is a difference between this and consoles cos i dont give a fuck if it hase better graphics its skyrim ffs it kicks arse anyway

  • Consoles are just a imprint of the best a computer can do at the time of the Consoles Release...A day later the computer world changes completely...example a patch, or new driver, could come out and completely stop you from enjoying the game you spent money on....Consoles did not use to have that problem....But they are slowly acquiring them....So the console is for a person who can't afford that 10000 dollar rig and still get similiar entertainment....Nothing can stop a powerful rig....

  • There are mods for this game that make crysis look like poop

  • Skyrim wan't optimized to use all cores at the time of the recording.... it's much better now.

  • Graphics QUALITY is ok, even good maybe.. but it still looks like shit because the designers have no sense of art at all

  • excuse me sir, I would like the return of my computer... no seriously, lol we have the same computer...

  • @ZsHouseProductions

    Skyrim has a 40km^2 world, not to mention 150+ dungeons. Crysis is on a small island. Imagine if Skyrim had graphics as Crysis? It would take up like 100+ gb.

  • @WoYaTzar I doubt it would take up that much space. It would probably be very similar to Crysis. The way games like that load is that they load up macro detail when in the overworld. You don't see the micro detail until you get up close to something.

  • OMG AMD FAIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLZ HAHAHAHA FAAAAAAAIIILLLLDOOOZZZERRRR lol jk man i have an FX 6100 processor and i loveee it :)

  • wow

  • Skyrim is great and we all love it, but there isn't much to show in performance videos now is there lol

  • Sad that Crysis looks better and it's from, hell, 2006 or 7?

  • @ZsHouseProductions November 13th 2007

  • @SubaruHyena did the math

  • @ZsHouseProductions Yea, i hate it how people say MW3 has great graphics when a game made in 2007 rapes it...Crysis is still at the top on graphics.

  • @therustyduke Hell, Crysis 2 has a hard time topping it.

  • @ZsHouseProductions What's sad is that you compare games to Crysis. That game is just for looks but it's a shitty fucking game.

  • @spizec They both are shitty games. Crysis is a tech demo, and Skyrim is Oblivion. Still has the same bad animations and bad writing.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Yea, your fucking stupid!!! I don't know why I'm wasting my time writing this to you?

  • @spizec Okay?

  • @ZsHouseProductions Crysis isn't seamless, and it was developed for PC only initially, as opposed to Skyrim which was developed for the 3 main platforms. I'm not one of those butthurt over-priviliged PC fanboys but I must admit, games look better when developed on pc only. You can develop to the absolute limit of modern graphics technology.

  • @xXTommyTheGunXx I still think that Bethesda could have done better. Skyrim is Oblivion's engine, just marketed as a brand new engine.

  • Crysis nothing more than a technology demonstration. Whats sad is that all you care about is graphics even though you dont know what the games are like anyway

  • @LulzAreGud And who said that all I care about is graphics? I've played both. Skyrim I played on PS3, so that destroys your retarded comment right there. And what the game is like? It's Oblivion. Still has the same juvenile writing and badly made gameplay. Get your head out of Bethesda's ass. They could have done a lot better.

  • @ZsHouseProductions hahaha on ps3? wow. The ps3 version sucks ass. Try it on pc dumbass. and you said it yourself in your first comment "sad that crysis looks better". You are the idiot trying to compare those games together.

  • @LulzAreGud You are a completely stupid fuck-stick. What difference would it make which system I play it on? The game still fuckin' sucks. But, I'd trust you to enjoy a game with the writing caliber of a basement-dwelling fantasy novelist.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Pretty sure it's been said before, but Crysis was made for PC and optimized their capabilities (actually raped them at the time) and this is a console port. Can't really compare the two, but you can compare Crysis to the Witcher 2 if you'd like

  • @xPunchyMidgetx Sure I could compare them. More people should. Maybe it would highlight the fact that developers shaft consoles and pc's all the time. It shouldn't matter if a game is optimized for this or that. Games should be optimized for every system they represent, not just a certain one. It pisses me off when someone like a pc elitist goes to a forum and screams about how pc's are better than consoles, then they go and play Skyrim.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Developers aren't going to code for each platform as it's going to cost too much. Adding Tessellation and high resolution textures and everything for PC, then having to take all of that off so the game is capable of running on the 360, then they have to code for PS3

    PC Elitist? All I've ever seen on here is 360/ps3 fans screaming about how dumb I am for being a PC gamer.

    my PC rapes consoles, but why shouldn't I play Skyrim? it still looks better on PC.

  • @SubaruHyena I've seen plenty of PC Elitists on here. Maybe you just don't notice them because you have a PC. All sides are guilty of it. And yes it does look better, but it isn't a world of difference. And no you aren't dumb at all for being a pc gamer. Why anyone is crucified for what they play on is beyond me. PC is better, yes, but if someone wants to play on something simpler, that is their choice.

  • @xPunchyMidgetx Yes Crysis was "optimized for pc" but, I've also heard Todd Howard say that pc gamers wouldn't be disappointed with Skyrim. Most of them are, and I can see why. They didn't get what they paid for, and neither did PS3 gamers with the game running like one-legged cat in some instances. So yes I will compare them, because pc optimization doesn't matter. What does is that Skyrim was poorly made.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Sad that Crysis is made only for graphics, and its not even important, atleast for me, moooooost important thing is gameplay

  • @Trojan9514 Gameplay that sucks, on both sides of the argument that you've made up in your head about how I am some crusader for Crysis, which I'm not.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Gameplay sucks?? Dude i bet you havent play Skyrim, tell me, what have you seen in YT videos, that makes you say Skyrim sucks, or are you just a troll who plays Mw3 allday `?

  • @Trojan9514 Never played MW3. Don't care for Modern Warfare, and yes, I have played Skyrim. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. Too bad I have no way to prove that I have played it so oh well.

  • @ZsHouseProductions But tell me, why dont you like it ? Bethesda improved much things from Oblivion, if you have played it, you will understund me!

  • @Trojan9514 They haven't improved much other than the core graphics, and not by a lot. The gameplay is still the same ole shit. Same go fetch this or kill this quests, same lame writing. The only thing I found to actually be better was the fuckin' map.

  • @ZsHouseProductions No no no, not true! If you played as Magician you would see SOOO MUCH what was improved, and what you mean with gameplay? + Quests is not only BRING ME THIS and stuff, also if you play other games like TES you can see that there is also that kind of shit....

  • @Trojan9514 I do play the mage role, always have, and yes the magic combat has improved to be as good as it can be, given the expanse of spells one has. But what about people who want to play stealth, or the warrior role? Neither of those has improved at all, other than dual-wielding and perk trees. The mechanics are still awful. They fucked with your brain with the first gameplay trailer. Everything reacted when you hit it. Then you try for yourself, it's Oblivion's static combat.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Thats what im saying ! Magic is one of biggest things they have improved! Stealth is realy weird, they could do it more realistic, and combat, ye bit of Oblivion and bit of new, like animations of combat, i hope in next Elder Scrolls, they will make combat close to like DMMM, because it was nice!

  • @Trojan9514 And yes most quests are those exact things. Not all, but the majority.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Still a worse game.

  • @imlan123 I agree. But I do not consider either one some holy grail of game design like most people seem to.

  • @ZsHouseProductions They had to tone it down so that consoles and crappier PCs could handle it. Techworld has never, and never will, give a fuck about current gen graphics, they endeavour to make a game look amazing, whether or not anybody can run it.

  • @ZsHouseProductions that said it was no where as in depth as this and you had no customisation options where, correct me if I'm wrong, would take its toll to render different clothing selections etc

  • @OtherNub Not really, clothing is not heavy, nor is customization since the game stops most of its operations. And since is its a graphics comaprison, yeah crysis had better graphics, because it was pc exclusive...

  • @ZsHouseProductions: Did Crisys also provide approx. 200hrs Playtime, unlimited Quests, a Sandbox World that reacts to your actions, a Civil war, where you can turn the tide, marriage system, different factions? No? Sad! But I gues you also rather take the dumb, mindless prom queen with the fake cleavage, just for the looks, eh?

  • @EuphorbiaPulcherima God people get butt-hurt way too easily, and just because of a simple graphics comparison. You're talking about Skyrim as if it's the girl next door. Yes, I enjoyed Skyrim more, but for exploration only. It's still a mindless prom queen, just like the rest of 'em. Take graphics out of the equation completely, it still has juvenile writing.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Yeah, but does it have to render hundreds of kilometers of space at a time and still have playable framerates?

  • @TheGenesisfreak Neither renders anywhere near hundreds of kilometers, so no.

  • @ZsHouseProductions skyrim is a way bigger game than crysis

  • @ZsHouseProductions HOW RETARDED ARE YOU? THIS IS A RPG!

  • @11Aguilar11 Shut up, you twit.

  • @ZsHouseProductions yea but it's not made with same engine ´+ it takes more work to do free-roam 3rd person game than fps games,

  • @MrBananaCast Of course it does, but I'm saying the developers could do better, in nearly all aspects of Skyrim - The Stick Puppet Show.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Well it has to run on stupid old consoles with 512megabytes ram total for video memory together, what do you expect? Games like Rage with streaming dynamical streaming textures you get on these! And bad console ports for PC later with same streaming texture shit, giving you a real viewable "streaming of textures" experience...

    It's a shame that consoles rule the game industry just because they don't want to invest in new technology and graphics!

  • @spantherix Boom! PC Elitist. And you said you had never seen one, aye Subaru? And yeah I get it. But you can't change the market. Go read a book, cause it's only gonna get worse.

  • @ZsHouseProductions PC elitist? not really. he's correct in that almost all games are being retarded due to the incredibly outdated technology that lies with the consoles. To boil this down to an analogy it's like you saying cars from the 1990's were the best, then calling someone who likes 2012 cars a "car elitist".

    You're on here spouting your opinions as if they're fact, keeping your opinions are unpopular, so of course people are going to yell at you.

  • @SubaruHyena Fuck popularity. Of course my comments are unpopular, so what? Since when is Youtube popularity important? I've said before that I get that people would be annoyed by consoles having outdated technology, but there isn't anything that can be done about it. Most people don't have the technical know-how, or the cash to build or buy a gaming rig. Consoles are necessary. If they didn't exist, we'd still be playing Frontier - Elite.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Actually I've proved that idea wrong in previous comments, a DX11 "Gaming capable computer" can be built for ~400 this is a system centered around playing BF3 on High in DX11.

    Another area where you're a bit flawed is on the hardware. You seem to think most people have console power PC's. According to the Steam Hardware Survey Results. DX9 and older cards only make up 6.29% That means that 93.71% of peoples cards are either DX10 or 11. Xbox is DX9

  • @ZsHouseProductions So my point, in short, is that the PC gamers aren't holding back any part of the Industry, with 93.7% of cards being either DX10 or 11 (31% DX11, 48% DX10 and 14% being DX10/11 on XP) and the average computer having 4 cores and 4+GB of RAM they're a lot more powerful than the consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if the "average gaming computer" right now is still going to be as powerful if not more powerful than the "xbox 720" is going to be.

  • @SubaruHyena You're over-exaggerating what I'm saying. A gaming capable computer can be built cheap, but one that will last a while can not. If you want one more than capable, that is. And I didn't say most people have console-level PC's. I understand the price point. It does not break the bank. I'm saying that consoles are not only cheap now, they're convenient. Like I said, most people don't have the technical know-how, nor the patience to build one themselves.

  • @SubaruHyena Consoles are not the sole reason. It's just easy to say that they are because that's what it looks like on the surface. Are you trying to tell me that if the world were just PC's, games would all-around be better built, and that the problems of the gaming world would disappear?

  • @ZsHouseProductions Hell yeah there would be more PC optimization if it was the only platform being coded for. And I'm not over-exaggerating what you're saying. The ~3-400 gaming computer will last just fine and will ALWAYS be capable of playing games above xbox 360 level quality.

    Consoles:

    Convenient: Yes

    Cheaper than they used to be: Yes

    DX10 or 11: No

    Outdated: Yes

    PC's aren't hard to build, but there is ibuypower and others out there to build gaming PC's for people.

  • @SubaruHyena And who's to say that Bethesda wouldn't have made the exact same game, even if it were pc only? It isn't just consoles. The world isn't so god damned black and white, no mater how much one wishes to whine about consoles destroying the industry. If we lived in a world of gaming rigs, and it, somehow, was still filled with 1000's of games to choose from, more releasing by the second, there'd still be plenty to whine about when it comes to "optimization."

  • @SubaruHyena Companies are worried about investment return first. It actually has little to do with consoles. There are people out there with gaming rigs that can't run today's tech, pc gamers like most of the people in this comments section, and are they holding back the industry because of 5 year old tech? Nope. I may not be well-liked here, but I'm not trolling for the fun of it. Alright maybe a little, but that's beside the point.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Now look at the size of the game.

  • @ZsHouseProductions

    That's consoles for your ass. Holding back titles since 2007 :).

  • @THuGZZTA Yes because we all know that we can pay 6000 dollars for PC that run 5D games on 6570x3560 with direct X 18

  • @Pupixario More like ~$400 for a DX11 PC that can game at 1080p in 3D ... oops.

  • @Pupixario

    Your talking out of your ass. I paid 1200 dollars for my shit a few years ago and it still maxes every game out right now. Mostly because like I stated previously, consoles have been holding back titles.

  • @THuGZZTA My point stands true . IF it were not for CONSOLES to HOLD your PC back , then you would be paying a lot more for top of the line grafics

  • @Pupixario

    Not really cuz I get 60+fps on all my games so I wouldn't mind getting 30-40 fps with better graphics and same hardware.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Man, yes, Crysis is from 2007 and has better Graphics - but it isnt all bout Graphics... I mean SKYRIM is a epic and huge game with lots off stuff to do - except of the graphics Crysis is pretty damn boring! So look at games with an other perspective!

  • @ZsHouseProductions

    Crysis was just graphics, its AI had an iq of about 4

  • @asaadcanlulz And so does Skyrim's.

  • @ZsHouseProductions but you needed a thousand cores and 15,000 graphics cards to run it. oh and 30 terabytes of RAM.

  • @ZsHouseProductions Crysis looks better than 80% of games that are coming out now. Many games don't put so much time and detail into graphics because they focus on gameplay more, which is what counts.

  • @ZsHouseProductions this a an open world game. biggest environment in a game ever. Alot harder to make the graphics better. Crysis isnt open world. Its easier to make better graphics because its a story line, and the multiplayer is just maps. Skyrim is open world and its not scripted, anything can happen at any time.Yes you would think they could be better, but, consoles hold them back