Scotland is not a joke in the Union at all, its vile separatist propaganda that makes people think that. That fat useless brainless c*nt in charge of the SNP however is a complete joke.
your facts are bollocks !!!!!!!!!!! listen to the other Scottish politicians who are saying its will be awful for the country. look at rangers football club this week?
what a mental bloke thinking he is right.
it was on the news today 1 in 3 scotts dont have a job. whats that got to do with england?
try reading facts before thinking you know what your on about :)
especially thinking Scottish cannon fodder go in first. i'm in the army and know my history.
the banks are what got us into the recession that we are in now, if the banks wernt too greedy and giving large bonus here and there, then they wouldnt of gottern into debt and lost all the money that they did. then the government wouldnt of had to give money. reminder that labour where in parliment at this time and it was THAT government that put all the money into the banks. pluss banks dont just run in one country, they run world wide so if they are world wide.
the term BRITTISH to people outside of the u.k just means English a term no scotsman like myself or welshman or irishman would like to be called or would wish upon their children. Im all for scottish independence but what about this English independence? a u.k without england now thats a union you could trust and respect Cymru am Byth! Alba gu brath! Eirinn go brach!
@TheTim2503 rightly said none of us were victims of say bannockburn or culloden but we are victims to the lies and injustice of the conservatives and their counterparts and we CAN survive without the union i think youll find scotland subsidises westminster or if you care to argue den why are you so keen to keep the union??
I am from Wales. I also dream of my country being strong and prosperous away from the vile term 'United Kingdom'. What we need is Celtic Union! Cymru am Byth! Alba gu brath! Eirinn go brach!
I personally prefer Scotland not togo independent, not so England can rule them but because I am proud to call ourselves a United Kingdom, we are the only union in the world and I'm proud of that
'I want Scotland to be independent, not because I think we are better than any other country, but because I know we are just as good as any other country.'Independence will create a new, more modern relationship between the nations of these islands - a partnership of equals.Independence would allow Scotland to become a wealthier and fairer nation, Imagining a country that 'speaks with its own voice, stands taller in the world and takes responsibility for its own future'.
most media is bro British that why they try and discourage us from going independent media plays big role in peoples decisions if you control the media u control the people fact most people will believe anything the see on tv only few people minds are free
Independence, i can't wait! Finally our chance to break free from English oppression.... and to do exactly what Brussels and the Vatican tell us to do!
A couple of things I'd like to point out, your so called 'facts' are incorrect, as a war historian I am happy to prove you wrong on this. secondly learn how to spell you thick sweaty sock.
@pollyinglis Come on this is a debate,why am I a twat?
The truth Scotland is nothing without England,Scotland wont survive without English taxpayers money for very long.
Scotlands population 4.5 million.2012.(Cant just rely on oil revenue that doesn't just belong to Scotland and is HEAVILY subsidised by English tax payer's.)
Englands population 55 million 2012.(And SCOTLANDS RULERS FOREVER).
independence is coming, and i for one can`t wait! scottish television would be a great start as im sick of watching programmes about england england england!! we are scottish (not english).
oil isn't scottish and it's outside scottish and english territorial waters. Its actually belongs to international conglomerates who the government tax. You wouldn't therefore have no control of it anyway and they would deal with the English seeing as it would be the english navy that would secure the waters. And yes it is the english navy as we speak today, not the british navy. it flies the english ensign not the british ensign and was never scottish. scottish are not asked to join the armies.
You are a very bitter person to make this video. Your family must have been bitter too to corrupt you to believe what you have put on video. Yes, Scottish oil brought in alot of wealth for us all, but remember the oil gave us a short income. Scotland has had 300 years of progress through the English empire. Yes the english empire was well established before scotland joined the union, which you have benefitted from greatly. Edinburgh boomed when it joined the union and so did glasgow.
This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
i would nt agree on the independence issue if scotland cox ist thind is this that its a very beautifull area of uk,i was being there last june,and the second thing is this that what the scotland is is just because of england,with out england its will be zero
Look guys just think the rest of the UK could be condemned to Tory rule indefinitely if Scotland separated from the UK. The Labour party does rely on scottish seats. Think of us please sob, sob.........
I cant help but point out the fact that the first soldiers in WW1/ww2 were NOT the
scottish rather the Australians. in WW1 alone we lost over half a million soldiers our populaion was about 7 million. It was Aussie troops that pushed the germans out of france. it was Aussie troops that stopped and beat back Rommel in North Africa giving Germany it first defeat in the war. When Japan threatened to invade Britain abandoned us a ENGLISH general, Sir Blamey made over 65,000 Aus troops -
Surrender without a fight to the Japanese nearly 80% of that force died as pows in less than a year. I whole heartedly dislike the English and agree with your sentiments but no member of the British Empire has given and bled as much as Australia has. Credit given where credit is due. good luck with your independence though I wish such a reality was possible for us in Aus but unfortunately we have too many english masquerading as Aussies here like our former PM john howard the prick
@Spartan2989 Australia lost nowhere near half a million troops you silly silly man. Not that we don't appreciate the efforts by all allied nations during the WWs.
"Scottish independence the real facts and what you need to know" - I didn't see many facts here - although I did see a lot of strange assertions, childishly simplistic arguments, and a fair dose of name-calling.
People need to know real facts about independence - the pound, the euro, defence, embassies, broadcasting and social security in detail.
Im Scottish Edinburgh born, i love the united kingdom and the union and i dont want it to break up, we need to stick together we are awesome as one despite small differences. the real threat now is islam and the EU we must and should stay closer in order to better combat this threat, we are 2 christian nations and we share a lot of common values, and ENGLISH MAN OR MUSLIM? i`ll take an English man anyday of the week! God save the queen!
scottish people have a right to be angry but what about the english people that love the scottish and wanna kick the fuck out of those pricks that say scotland is shit im english and i fucking love the scottish and i would hate for you guys to be independant coz look at all the things we have done
using war casualties as a fucking way to say that, you lot are a bunch of fools, there was NEVER a system of the english being last, we dont get anymore special treatment then you scots do, the UK justs needs a better government, not to all get split up then be weaker, use your fucking heads.
the Royal zionist family ! ,,,your queen !!! will never give Independence to Scottland !! they love the oil from the north sea !!.....The English slime Rule !
The union is a cancerous disease ridden disaster for Scotland, it's about time the articals of union were burnt to a crisp once again in Scotland as they were 304 years ago by the Scots who viciously rioted against the union agreement with England all around Scotland.
Dublin has an orbital four lane motorway like London's M25. Dublin has an underground motorway between it's airport and city centre. There is a massive tram network under construction in Dublin. Dublin is getting a series of underground railways like London's Tube. And Lansdowne Road Stadium has been rebuilt.
Is such huge investment going into the infrastructure of Scotland's capital or even Scotland's largest city Glasgow? No because the south of England is top priority to Westminster.
@nwlondoner9 Let me continue your speach about all the things hapening in ireland ...... Ireland's economy is also the laughing stock of europe. Thousands of irish youth are heading out of ireland due to the massive lack of opportunities. There are literally hundreds of empty ghost housing estates and neighbourhoods in ireland, many of them only partly built because of the lack of money. What good is it having roads or rail networks if there is nobody to use them. ...continued...
@nwlondoner9 continued...... Ireland is the last example you should use to put forward the case for breaking up the union. Thousands of irish are coming to the UK for opportunities and you are talking about turning Scotland into another Ireland. Dont you understand? Irelands so called 'celtic tiger' economy was a fake boom. It was a fraud. ireland has landsdowne rd but the UK has Murryfield, Millenium and wembley stadiums + many other club football stadiums unrivalled in europe.
@nwlondoner9 Oh com on, you can't be that stupid not to understand that out of 60 million Brits compared to just 6 million irish, it is obvious that there may be more brits in ireland than irish in Britain. And im not even sure if your figures are sound. But in any case, it matters not because there are far more brits in this world than irish so obviousely there probably may be more brits in ireland than irish in Britain. It is mostly the youth and skilled in ireland who r leaving ireland
@nwlondoner9 Any people Going to ireland from the uk are prob mostly older secure adults who are just going to ireland to enjoy retirement in a baron slow paced countryside type setting. The UK is very fast paced as one of the world's largest and strongest economies. Ireland on the other hand has far less activity and industry so Ireland may be a nice place to enjoy retirement.
Says in the video that the UK is 21st on the HDI scale. In 2010 the UK fell down to 26th on the HDI scale and the Republic of Ireland was 5th.
In 2005 Ireland was 1st on the HDI scale and the UK was 29th. So out off all the country's in the world Ireland was the best one to live in 2005 and is usually 20+ places ahead of the UK on the HDI scale.
Ireland achieved that without being part of the UK which proves that a nation can be great without the UK.
@nwlondoner9 Ireland? LOL. Good God man have you not been watching the news for the past 3 or 4 months? The Irish economy is the laughing stock of the world. Ireland has been turned into a vassal state of the EU. The EU is practically now the owner of Ireland. And this is what is happening now in the world. Smaller countries are being controlled and dictated to by bigger countries. Our Union helps us punch above our weight. ...Continued
It's own lower and upper houses of parliament in Edinburgh with Scottish political parties (no Labour, Tories or Lib Dems) and a prime minister for Scotland.
Scottish taxes paid to Edinburgh and not London.
The Scottish people would have a Scottish birth certificate and a Scottish passport and countries around the world would recognise Scottish people's nationality as Scottish rather than British.
@nwlondoner9 Birth certificates in Scotland are already Scottish, with the Scottish royal thistle and the red Scottish Lyon Rampant adorning the decoration registered to all Scots (born Scottish), it's the passports that aren't proper Scottish as they are British but it still has the Scottish coat of arms (the white Unicorn) on half of it.
But I agree, the benefits to Scotland as an independent nation rather than a unionist one far outweigh the negatives.
@nwlondoner9.Cont even without Scotland, England is still a G7, g8, g20 UN permanent security seat major power with a 2 trillion + economy. Not much would change for England. However Scotland would immediately be cast out of any decision making at the world's top tables. Scotland wouldbe reduced to the significance of slovenia. Be bullied by big organisations just as Ireland is today. There would be an exodus of Scotland's youth without the economic weight of the UK, as is the case in Ireland.
@NumberDne For your information, the Irish economy exited recession last year and unemployment is falling. Let's not forget that GDP per capita in Ireland is higher than the UK and on the HDI scale Ireland is 5th while the UK is 26th. Anyway, Irish independence had fuck all to do with the economy... the Irish simply don't want to be part of a foreign country with foreign people in government and a foreign head of state.
@nwlondoner9 irish independence directly had lots to do with the irish economy. From having unexperienced incompitent leaders to the fact that Ireland could have competitively devalued its pound to boost exports and fight off economic destruction. Also, within the UK, Ireland could have been bailed out internally without surrendering all to the EU, in the same way that the UK government protected the royal bank of Scotland when it was about to fail.
@NumberDne It was the Bank of Scotland (Britain's most aggressive lender) that triggered the banking crisis in Ireland. They expanded their business into Ireland and put 100% mortgages on the Irish market. After the Irish banks followed suit they then put 120% mortgages and that put the lending market into overdrive. When the recession hit that led to the banking crisis and the Irish government bailed out the banks to the tune of €50 billion.
@nwlondoner9 And what is your point on RBS? there were many european banks lending money to ireland, a dont get your point. I'm beginning to think that you are an Irish republican in disguise.
Anyway, either way, i hope you have your wish of leaving the top tables of the world. and i hope you get your wish of being bullied and dictated to by the big countries because scotland leaving uk would make no difference at all to the status of the rest of the UK
@NumberDne What he is saying dickhead is that Royal Bank of Scotland opened for business in Ireland and went stark raving mad. RBS is the main cause of the banking crisis in Ireland which led to the government having to bailout the banks. And what's RBS doing now? Closing down their business in Ireland... running away after the mess they caused. A they're a UK bank which goes to show that we're better off having nothing to with anything from the UK.
@carlowgirl88 The bank i heard was most responsible for Irish crisis is AngloIrish bank. I can imagine that RBS was involved too but i heard it was mainly AIrish.
@NumberDne No, it's was Anglo Irish Bank that was owed the most money and took €30 billion of the €50 billion bailout from the government. All the banks made mistakes but at the end of the day it was Bank of Scotland that caused the mess by coming here and putting 100% and 120% mortgates on the market which put the Irish lending market into overdrive.
@carlowgirl88 Good girl... you tell that fucker. He thinks the UK is so fucking great but in the past few days I heard the UK government is short of money, the governer of the Bank of England says there is going to be another banking crisis in Britain, and there's a programme on TV in Britain tonight asking if the UK should start selling off it's assets. Basically, the UK is fucked and we already had the Bank of England saying our problems were to last until 2029 but now they're getting worse.
@nwlondoner9 2029? Things seem worse over there than I thought. But in reality the recession in Ireland has ended and unemployment is going down. The company I work for was laying off workers six months ago but started recruiting again a few weeks ago. And over the past couple of months more foreign companies, attracted by our low corporation tax, have set up business in Ireland creating more jobs. The worst is over and things are now looking up.
@nwlondoner9 He really is as thick as a fuckin' sheep. Trying to make out that an Irish bank is the cause of the banking crisis in Ireland when in reality it was a UK bank. The bank he's thinking of was just owed the most money but it was Bank of Scotland that was the cause when they came to Ireland and put 100% and 120% mortgages on the market and made the Irish lending market go insane. And according to the same stupid cunt... Bank of Scotland had to be rescued in the UK.
@carlowgirl88 He cannot accept that one of Britain's banks triggered the state the Irish banking system is in. I have a son living in Ireland so I know what's going on over there. He even thinks that I'm not from London but I've lived here my whole life. He thinks he knows everything but he don't know shit.
@nwlondoner9 He even said that the Brits emmigrating to Ireland are old which ain't true because 11 houses were built near me in recent years and there's Brits in their 20's and 30's living in half of them. I'm hearing the English accent more and more over here and they're all young Brits. And I'm even working with Brits. If the UK is so bleedin' great then what the fuck are they doing over here?
@carlowgirl88 Are you seriousely trying 2 deny that ther's an exodus of Irish youth coming out of Ireland? It doesn't matter if you have brits working with u in ireland, the facts are that there are not enough jobs for Irish graduates let alone british graduates in Ireland. It is a bit childish to say "11 houses were built near me in recent years and there's Brits in their 20's and 30's living in half of them". I could just say the same about young irish people in Britain. facts r facts
@nwlondoner9 He also said "baron industry" but there are 310 Industrial Estates and Business Parks in Dublin alone.
Computers is one thing we produce a lot of in Ireland. Dell and Apple opened their European factories in Ireland and not the UK. Even the computers in the cockpits of US Air Force aircraft were made in Ireland.
And more international companies have set up business in Ireland in recent months. Irish industry is a hell of a lot bigger than he'd like to think it is.
@carlowgirl88 The only reason why dell and apple opened their factories in ireland is because Ireland has a very low corperate tax. Basically cheapening ireland to beg for companies to open in Ireland. But unfortunately for Ireland that will change because the EU will eventually force Ireland to raise the corperate tax rate to harmonize the eurozones corperate tax rates. and there is nothing Ireland can do about it because Ireland is a eurozone country which has been forced to borrow billions
@NumberDne In actual fact the Irish government is adamant that the corporation tax will be staying as it is and that has been made quite clear to the EU.
And I'll say it again... if the UK is so bleedin' wonderful why are so many fuckin' Brits over here? You said on a previous post that they're old but they're actually young so that was something else you were wrong about.
You think you know everything but you don't know half of it. You're as thick as a fuckin' sheep.
@carlowgirl88 I doubt that bastard knows anyone who lives in Ireland. I have a son and a few friends living there so I hear from them what's really going on over there and not the unrealistic bullshit from UK media.
My son is 30 in May and he's already finished paying his mortgage. I'm 49 and I'm still paying mine. At least you don't have to pay for water or council tax in Ireland which helps makes you financially better off there.
@nwlondoner9 You're son is not the only one who has paid his mortgage at a young age. I have two brothers who are 34 and 37 and their mortgages are also paid. The fact that you're still paying yours at 49 says a lot.
You having to pay for tap water in the UK is laughable. And I've just looked up council tax on Wikipedia... tragic! I'm glad we don't have to pay that here.
Yeah we have people here from East Europe which we needed because jobs outnumbered job seekers here a few years ago.
@carlowgirl88 I'm not surprised so many of ours are coming to live in Ireland. England is full of foreigners. I'm living in one of two areas in the UK where Britons are a minority. Walk down the main road in the area where I live and you don't hear a word of English. If I use a bus I'm usually the only person on it that is white. Eastern Europeans are the latest to desend on us and I hear from my son that you've had your fair share of them as well.
@nwlondoner9 You normally find yourself being only the English person on a London bus? That's hilarious! At least the buses in Dublin are full of Dubliners and obviously you'd get one from East Europe. The Brits are becoming a minority in their own country... that's so funny. I hope we don't start getting outnumbered by all the bleedin' Brits coming here. Those university fee are a joke and I wouldn't blame them for coming here... I just hope they don't end up staying.
@carlowgirl88 Lol, have you 2 finished your "harmonious ireland = promised land" dribble?. I wouldnt be surprised if youre actually the same person pretending to be two people. Anyone that says that "many young people in the UK are going to Ireland" is either one of two things. 1) Is a deluded irish republican living in massive denial about the state of the the Irish economy. or 2) Is a dumb muthu fucker who doesn't read the news & doesn't get out at all to talk to anyone. U choose
@carlowgirl88 Lol, have you 2 finished your "harmonious ireland = promised land" dribble?. I wouldnt be surprised if youre actually the same person pretending to be two people. Anyone that says that "many young people in the UK are going to Ireland" is either one of two things. 1) Is a deluded irish republican living in massive denial about the state of the the Irish economy. or 2) Is a dumb muthu fucker who doesn't read the news & doesn't get out at all to talk to anyone. U choose.
@NumberDne All you come out with is total bullshit. You know fuck all. My son has paid his mortgage before he's 30 and I'm still paying mine at 49. And that girl says her brothers mortgages are paid and they're in their mid 30's. People are financially better off in Ireland. The UK economy is shrinking but the Irish ecomomy is out of recession. My next door lost her job three years ago and is still unemployed. And unemployment in Ireland is falling.
@nwlondoner9 Oh fuck this, yuo are really boring me because you wont look at the news to find out how bad the irish economy is. You are another Irish person living in London because your passion for Ire is over the top. The whole world was focused for 3 months on the failure of the Irish economy and you come here talking about "promised land Ireland". You are deffinately Irish. And you probably are same person as corlowgirl88. No English man insults his country, especially for Ireland.
@NumberDne And yet again I remind you that GDP per capita in greater in Ireland than the UK. And Ireland is 5th on the HDI scale while the UK is 26th. My son living in Ireland has paid his mortgage and he hasn't reached his 30th birthday yet. I've compared the quality of life in great detail and Ireland is a better country to live in especially for pensioners. And I also remind you that I've lived in London my whole life and I for one want rid of the UK and have an independent England.
@NumberDne And I also remind you that the Irish economy came out if recession last year while the UK economy is shrinking. And unemployment is falling in Ireland. And carlowgirl8 did say that her employer was laying off workers not so long ago and is now recruiting again.
And I also remind you that that on the news over the past few days the UK government is short of money and the Bank of England says there's going to be another banking crisis in Britain.
@carlowgirl88 Forget your claims of knowing some English people in ireland which is a completely inaccurate method of summing up the amount of English people in Ireland. Listen to this news report with reporters who have professionally worked out the sums on who is coming and who is gowing from Ireland.
@NumberDne Let's talk pensions. I heard that the UK has the lowest pensions in Europe. So I've compared quality of life of the elderly in UK and Ireland.
1: State pension in Ireland is much higher than the UK.
2: In Ireland the elderly get payments towards their utilities and in the UK they don't.
3: There's no water charges or council tax in Ireland and that's expenses the UK elderly have to face.
So the UK elderly have a lot more expenses on a much lower pension than those in Ireland.
@nwlondoner9 I totally agree with u on these points, These loose comfortable policies are part of what caused Ireland to get into so much debt. The whole of ireland, both government and people were living and spending as if they were Germany when infact their economic boom was fake. That is why the EU is now imposing rules by which ireland must live by. There's practically no point in voting for any party in ireland, because the real government of ireland is now the EU commission.
@nwlondoner9 Just read your comment on pensions. That's really disgusting how they're treated in the UK. At least I know I'm living in the right country when I retire.
I notice you got no comeback from that Mr. Bullshitter when it came to mortgages, university fees or pensions. You've talked him down and talked him down good.
I saw that video you shared with me... I love it. I see it was only uploaded here last night so I'm guessing it was Mr. Bullshitter that inspired you to make it. LOL
@carlowgirl88 You really are one sad fucker. You sit on youtube all day making lots of different accounts pretending to be different people and thumbing up your own comments. This is so obvious because all of your comments from 'carlowgirl and nwlondoner' have miraculousely been thunmbed up the same amount of times. Wow you really are a sad peice of work. I actually feel sorry for you now, your life must be very dull. LOL
I'm hoping we get plenty of English over here in the Republic, and I'm most definitely no unionist. Many seem to like a holiday home here, as do many Germans, or have family here, and we got a few houses to fill. Hotels too.
@carlowgirl88 And there's another thing that's going to drive young people out of the UK is the university fees going up to £10,000 a year. At least in Ireland it'll be only €3,000 which is about a quarter of what it'll be in the UK. Many more young Britons will desend on Ireland in the years to come love.
@carlowgirl88 And please show me where i said that ireland has "baron industry"? I never said ireland has "baron industry". Do you have to resort to telling lies to try to win the debate?
@NumberDne I actually mistyped that and you really said "Ireland has far less industry" but there are 310 Industrial Estates and Business Parks in Dublin alone so there is a hell of a lot more industry here than you think. I doubt Edinburgh or Cardiff can say they have more industry than Dublin.
@carlowgirl88 Let me finally just tell you this. Most of Scotlands achievements have needed the economic and global muscle of England to make them happen. Most Scottish things which England is not part of are pretty insignificant. One example can be the Scottish premier league. Wiithout the involvement of England, the Scottish premier league is very poor. While without Scotland's involvement, the English premier league is the best in the world. Ponder on that for a while.
@patrickyunblocked Most Scots dont want their millitary to be reduced to a millitary like Eritrea's. They want to stay part of the world's top 5 millitaries.
I have started to feel like this after initially feeling brotherhood and family love for Scotland that if you want to go then go cos it wont make a blind bit of difference to England without Scotland. However it is a fact that without England, Scotland loses out bigtime on a global scale. 5 million is peanuts to England's 50 + million
@patrickyunblocked Yes it would be stop kidding yourself. Scotland is only 5 million populated. That number is 7 million less than the population of London. England would still keep its place on all of the top tables of the world with a 2 trillion + economy. Work out the sums and see for yourself. England has a 2 trillion plus economy. A figure that only UN security council seat countries have apart from Germany and japan due to WW2. even Russia with a 1.5 trillion economy is in it.
@patrickyunblocked It is the majority of Scots who hold on to the UK not westminster that holds on to Scotland. The SNP is a minority government and that is why Scotland is holding onto the UK, and wisely so. Most Sots dont want their country reduced to the status of countries like slovenia. They want their country to stay part of the nation which had the greatest empire ever and which is even today among the strongest economies in the world, that is why the English Scottish union lives.
@nwlondoner9 In any case i am over the moon that Ireland is not part of the UK. because rep of Ireland was only really just a British protectorate. Both Scottish and English settled in Northern Ireland and the Northern Irish are not jumping to become part of Ireland. On the contrary, the Northern Irish are proud of their UK identity. Also the Canadians Australians and Newzealanders are also very proud of their Anglo/Celtic British roots. We at least owe it to them to be united.
Britain is a small island as it is, it would be madness to break it up into even smaller countries. What we need to do is build a proud, strong Britain based on truth, honour and loyalty, then we'd all be happy to be a part of Britain. Together we are stronger.
Nobody cares about 'britain', it's not even a real country! The independece movement is based on the future constitution of Scotland and what's best for Scotland!, What happens south of the border is completely irrelevant to Scotland!
@GLORD99092 "What's beat for Scotland!" If Scotland ever was independant they would continue to fill Scotland with non-whites, that hardly sounds like what's best for Scotland to me. They'd also still be controlled by the E.U.
@stepheng1483 And its funny because after the romans moved out of england and left the bretons defenceless, it was the picts from scotland who terrorised, killed and raided the inhabitants of england, untill the saxons were asked to come and defend england. So infact it was scotts who started the bitter fighting between england and scotland. Its just abit holyer than thou attitude to rave on about the mean nasty english who killed scotts.and use it as an argument for independence.
@NumberDne It's the Romans who started trying to invade the Scottish Picts first, they conquered all of what's now known as England and Wales, but when they went to Scotland to try the same, the people stood up against them and spat in their face and sent them packing back down south again where built Hadrian's wall as a protectional fortress for defence.Then after the Romans left, the Angles came and tried the same, but the Scottish Picts viciously demolished them at the battle of Dun Nechtain.
@segano1 When the romans withdrew from Britain it was the Picts who raided and terrified the defenceless Britons. They did this until the Angles came and took over southern Britain. So nobody can really try to take the moral highground. Between those groups who today still populate Britain, it was the Picts who were first to be aggressors. But that was how it was in those times. This is 2011 and all that squabbling is in the past. We have wisely strengthened each other by uniting Britain.
Yes I am a Scottish patriot and I will vote snp when I'm 18 but I think the ww1 deaths of scots were so high because the whole british army was in the command of Field Marshal Haig who was Scottish so he probably just wanted to have victories along with his fellow countrymen
@akropiss I understand why. They took our country and they try to took away our language to. Bill 101 was create to bring back french presence in Montréal, and yes maybe its going to far on some point. And I don't understand why you said "we won't be leaving our homes again, either way, we respect the decision" are you so afraid of Québec independance ? Nobody will force you to leave.
@RollingKadio the reason they made up such a percentage of the casualties is that British army regiments are spread out pretty evenly over the country, though there is a concentration in London. the percentage of Scottish regiments is more to do with geography that population concentration
I support independence for Scotland, but your so-called "facts" are nothing of the sort. This is just dramatised pish. Nothing is that simple, and there is no point in playing the victim all the time.
"As long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself".THE DECLARATION OF ABROATH 1320! Independence! TURNCOAT SCOTS! Stop your pish! Vote for Independence! vote for progress!
The problem wiht referendum it will never be respected by UK. Just take a look to Quebec referendum in 1995 we lost it by less than 1%, and a lot of fraud was made by the Canadian gourvernement on this.
But behind the lie and the corrupt main stream media.People of scotland will find out the truth.
@maccyjames64 its not a conspiracy theory, its a fact, and you can easely find documentation on this. 19% don't prove that scotland will never be independant. And yes im french ...
@try0003 it might be in the future, but the fact is if it wanted to be we would let it. I may be wrong about your ethnicity but only 30% of you have any French ancestry and for the most part it makes up less that 50% of those peoples blood. you've been living in Canada for at least 250 years, YOUR NOT FRENCH
@maccyjames64 I do not describe myself as a French from France. I said I am French because I speak French, and the vast majority of people of Québec have direct French ancestry. Indeed, in the past some people came to Québec from scotland and Ireland and now many of them have French ancestry.
@try0003@try0003 as far as i remember (I read in some newspaper article, Times or something respectable), 80% of you speak French as their first language but only 30% of you are ethnically French, those that are French obviously being further mixed. the Quebecan obsession with being French is considered quite amusing to the rest of the world. you yourself may be mainly French but the majority of you aren't. btw you may be right about the voting thingy, i can't honestly pretend to know.
@maccyjames64 Yes the 80% is true but the 30% I think its a worng data. And annyway if you take a look at the actual population of France not so many of them are "ethnically" French today. :P
@try0003 yeh, about 91% are. plus they actually live in France, not Canada. Quebec is the only French speaking part of the world that is difficult enough to make up new French words when English ones come along. about 63% of you are Canadian and pretending not to be and the remaining 7% are from other ethnic groups.
@maccyjames64 I don't pretend to be a french from france I said Im French beacause I speak French. as the same for the english canadian I call them english.
And yes I am a Canadian but only on my passport. It is difficult to feel like a Canadian when your gouvernement make anticonstitutional law like the "loi sur la clarté" agains Québec who said only a victory of 60% for the independance will be recognise.
@patrickyunblocked a black man who was born in the USA is American. most black men in the US think of themselves as American's. basically the whole of the population of North America where immigrants in the recent past arriving at different times. how many Americans do you see being nationalistically Irish or German? how many Canadians Scottish? or South Africans Dutch? it just you who is stubborn. why hold onto France though ridiculous links?
The irony for me is that thanks to the over generous block grant it recieves from the UK Treasury, the Scottish people are being bribed to stay in the Union. Yet there are still Scots who contend that they are being fleeced by the nasty English.
Only when English MP`s stand up for us and end the anti-English Barnett formula will I in any way feel the Scot`s have anything to whinge about!
so your saying that Scotland would have been fine in the recession becuase it has oil....which Norway also has, and they were fine?
Thats like me handing in two lines of homework (which should be a 500word essay) and because I have the name Karl in it, it will be fine because Karls homework was fine with two lines, even though he is in a differant class.
And British Taxpayers had to bail out Scottish banks.
And no one believes gorden brown or the labour party anyway.
Scotland recieves more per head thru our oil, not that the union is our good friend !! we even have weapons of mass destruction in our waters thanks to england, coulda dun it to wales n no one would really care, n on top of that the english make us look like moanin bastards, stop interfering with our independence referendum, once we get independence us scots ul be happy
No, Scotland raises more in tax per head than England which means the flow of money is from north to south. Mind you keep perpetuating the other myth, maybe the English will kick us out - we'll still get independence whichever way.
What infrastructure do we lack? If we get more spent on us in general - whether it be on hospitals, schools, roads or airports (infrastructure) - then how can we lack it?
Scotland get more of those taxes per head than england. Do you realise how taxes work?
Look at how many English people work in Scotland keeping Scotland running, If scotland became independant a huge number of scottish people would have to magically have the skills needed to fill important positions that have been held by emglish workers.
Scotland will have absolutely no influence on the world stage if we become independant, we'll just be an insignificant little country nobody cares about.
Oh god. You're right. I never thought about that. I mean no English people work outside England in other independent countries. Ever. You'll never find an Englishman living or working in another country that independent of England. Ever.
I mean what about all the 800,000 Scots in England. One of them runs Royal Mail and the other runs the country. That means Scots have no talent. What if they all come home at once? Where will be put them all?
So the independance you want is purely beurocratic, a paper independance. And yet people call me unpatriotic for looking out for Scotland's best interests.
Despite these arguments, my main thing against independance has always been that the drive for independance is fueled primarily by anglophobia. And it's pathetic how much ridiculous anglophobia is present in our country.
Scotland is not a joke in the Union at all, its vile separatist propaganda that makes people think that. That fat useless brainless c*nt in charge of the SNP however is a complete joke.
SpitfireUK555 6 days ago
brittish ''is manufactured let scots be scots n english be english so on...
FraserMGZR 1 week ago
your facts are bollocks !!!!!!!!!!! listen to the other Scottish politicians who are saying its will be awful for the country. look at rangers football club this week?
what a mental bloke thinking he is right.
it was on the news today 1 in 3 scotts dont have a job. whats that got to do with england?
try reading facts before thinking you know what your on about :)
especially thinking Scottish cannon fodder go in first. i'm in the army and know my history.
johnmac378 1 week ago
the banks are what got us into the recession that we are in now, if the banks wernt too greedy and giving large bonus here and there, then they wouldnt of gottern into debt and lost all the money that they did. then the government wouldnt of had to give money. reminder that labour where in parliment at this time and it was THAT government that put all the money into the banks. pluss banks dont just run in one country, they run world wide so if they are world wide.
MrRobbiegs 2 weeks ago
the term BRITTISH to people outside of the u.k just means English a term no scotsman like myself or welshman or irishman would like to be called or would wish upon their children. Im all for scottish independence but what about this English independence? a u.k without england now thats a union you could trust and respect Cymru am Byth! Alba gu brath! Eirinn go brach!
bambyzrevenge 2 weeks ago
@TheTim2503 rightly said none of us were victims of say bannockburn or culloden but we are victims to the lies and injustice of the conservatives and their counterparts and we CAN survive without the union i think youll find scotland subsidises westminster or if you care to argue den why are you so keen to keep the union??
bambyzrevenge 2 weeks ago
I am from Wales. I also dream of my country being strong and prosperous away from the vile term 'United Kingdom'. What we need is Celtic Union! Cymru am Byth! Alba gu brath! Eirinn go brach!
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fairyheli2 3 weeks ago
Scotland has a cherished history in the United Kingdom, If Scotland ever does go independent it will be a very sad day.
MarkoWells95 3 weeks ago
I personally prefer Scotland not togo independent, not so England can rule them but because I am proud to call ourselves a United Kingdom, we are the only union in the world and I'm proud of that
MarkoWells95 3 weeks ago
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'I want Scotland to be independent, not because I think we are better than any other country, but because I know we are just as good as any other country.'Independence will create a new, more modern relationship between the nations of these islands - a partnership of equals.Independence would allow Scotland to become a wealthier and fairer nation, Imagining a country that 'speaks with its own voice, stands taller in the world and takes responsibility for its own future'.
Alastairbell 3 weeks ago
most media is bro British that why they try and discourage us from going independent media plays big role in peoples decisions if you control the media u control the people fact most people will believe anything the see on tv only few people minds are free
we are legion
farroman1314 3 weeks ago
BTW guys, there are many Scots who believe passionately in the Union, and resorting to insults does NOT help the Unionist cause. Please?
whitecraw123 4 weeks ago
Independence, i can't wait! Finally our chance to break free from English oppression.... and to do exactly what Brussels and the Vatican tell us to do!
whitecraw123 4 weeks ago
scotland will remain in the uk,they will vote [devo max]
broadband01 4 weeks ago
same old shit video here,blaming everything on the english,,,,grow up ffs
broadband01 4 weeks ago
A couple of things I'd like to point out, your so called 'facts' are incorrect, as a war historian I am happy to prove you wrong on this. secondly learn how to spell you thick sweaty sock.
SuperJamielouise 1 month ago
ENGLAND FOREVER.DOWN WITH THE SCOTTS.
viewfinder777 1 month ago
@viewfinder777
twat
pollyinglis 1 month ago
@pollyinglis Come on this is a debate,why am I a twat?
The truth Scotland is nothing without England,Scotland wont survive without English taxpayers money for very long.
Scotlands population 4.5 million.2012.(Cant just rely on oil revenue that doesn't just belong to Scotland and is HEAVILY subsidised by English tax payer's.)
Englands population 55 million 2012.(And SCOTLANDS RULERS FOREVER).
viewfinder777 1 month ago
independence is coming, and i for one can`t wait! scottish television would be a great start as im sick of watching programmes about england england england!! we are scottish (not english).
scottishandproud2012 3 weeks ago
@viewfinder777 .... its scots you clown!
scottishandproud2012 3 weeks ago
Oil on the continental shelf is Scottish also the ROYAL NAVY is an amalgamation of the scots and English navies prior to the act of the union.
andreww507 1 month ago
oil isn't scottish and it's outside scottish and english territorial waters. Its actually belongs to international conglomerates who the government tax. You wouldn't therefore have no control of it anyway and they would deal with the English seeing as it would be the english navy that would secure the waters. And yes it is the english navy as we speak today, not the british navy. it flies the english ensign not the british ensign and was never scottish. scottish are not asked to join the armies.
porsche4543 1 month ago
You are a very bitter person to make this video. Your family must have been bitter too to corrupt you to believe what you have put on video. Yes, Scottish oil brought in alot of wealth for us all, but remember the oil gave us a short income. Scotland has had 300 years of progress through the English empire. Yes the english empire was well established before scotland joined the union, which you have benefitted from greatly. Edinburgh boomed when it joined the union and so did glasgow.
porsche4543 1 month ago
Somehow the top two comments are about England and the ROI.
MrDizer10 1 month ago
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This one time I went to Scotland. It rained non-stop and was freezing cold. Everyone is overweight and has false teeth. All the men are transvestites and the women look like men. I was attacked by a swarm of midges and thrown out of a pub for saying that the Loch Ness monster didn't exist. Everyone is constantly drunk and there is a very high level of MS due to the horrible weather. I couldn't sleep at night due to the constant bagpipe noise. I am never going back.
karezza6 1 month ago
SNP got their majority, but still no referendum. LOL. Go on Scotland, go independant and take your toxic banks with you!
ElseMush 1 month ago
i would nt agree on the independence issue if scotland cox ist thind is this that its a very beautifull area of uk,i was being there last june,and the second thing is this that what the scotland is is just because of england,with out england its will be zero
wahablondon11 1 month ago
@wahablondon11 I cant understand your comment seriously.
MrDizer10 1 month ago
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Look guys just think the rest of the UK could be condemned to Tory rule indefinitely if Scotland separated from the UK. The Labour party does rely on scottish seats. Think of us please sob, sob.........
incredibleXMan 2 months ago
couldn't give a shit if Scotland are in Britain or not. Theres not alot there anyway
BRADFORDCITYworstFAN 2 months ago
FACT: Scotland would have been the 6th worst hit economy if we're independent. What a biased video...
ShowPolitics 3 months ago
I cant help but point out the fact that the first soldiers in WW1/ww2 were NOT the
scottish rather the Australians. in WW1 alone we lost over half a million soldiers our populaion was about 7 million. It was Aussie troops that pushed the germans out of france. it was Aussie troops that stopped and beat back Rommel in North Africa giving Germany it first defeat in the war. When Japan threatened to invade Britain abandoned us a ENGLISH general, Sir Blamey made over 65,000 Aus troops -
Spartan2989 3 months ago
Surrender without a fight to the Japanese nearly 80% of that force died as pows in less than a year. I whole heartedly dislike the English and agree with your sentiments but no member of the British Empire has given and bled as much as Australia has. Credit given where credit is due. good luck with your independence though I wish such a reality was possible for us in Aus but unfortunately we have too many english masquerading as Aussies here like our former PM john howard the prick
Spartan2989 3 months ago
@Spartan2989 Australia lost nowhere near half a million troops you silly silly man. Not that we don't appreciate the efforts by all allied nations during the WWs.
N330AA 2 months ago
"Scottish independence the real facts and what you need to know" - I didn't see many facts here - although I did see a lot of strange assertions, childishly simplistic arguments, and a fair dose of name-calling.
People need to know real facts about independence - the pound, the euro, defence, embassies, broadcasting and social security in detail.
Some figures for the above would be good too.
minchul80 4 months ago
Im Scottish Edinburgh born, i love the united kingdom and the union and i dont want it to break up, we need to stick together we are awesome as one despite small differences. the real threat now is islam and the EU we must and should stay closer in order to better combat this threat, we are 2 christian nations and we share a lot of common values, and ENGLISH MAN OR MUSLIM? i`ll take an English man anyday of the week! God save the queen!
powervr250 4 months ago
scottish people have a right to be angry but what about the english people that love the scottish and wanna kick the fuck out of those pricks that say scotland is shit im english and i fucking love the scottish and i would hate for you guys to be independant coz look at all the things we have done
nathan96berry 4 months ago
Time for scotland to stop being englands golden goose and to keep the gold for ourselves.
1966thewallace 4 months ago
using war casualties as a fucking way to say that, you lot are a bunch of fools, there was NEVER a system of the english being last, we dont get anymore special treatment then you scots do, the UK justs needs a better government, not to all get split up then be weaker, use your fucking heads.
webb20k 5 months ago
Independance would be largely symbolic. English and welsh would still be allowed in and still be able to use pounds.
Be interesting to see scotland survive without the english tax payer giving you all your health care perks
menacinghat 8 months ago
independence for the shetland islands
FreeShetlandislands 10 months ago 3
the Royal zionist family ! ,,,your queen !!! will never give Independence to Scottland !! they love the oil from the north sea !!.....The English slime Rule !
lion1green 10 months ago 3
Unionists focus on what Scotland cant do. Nationalists focus on what Scotland can do.
ColossalCollapse 10 months ago 4
The union is a cancerous disease ridden disaster for Scotland, it's about time the articals of union were burnt to a crisp once again in Scotland as they were 304 years ago by the Scots who viciously rioted against the union agreement with England all around Scotland.
segano1 11 months ago 4
Dublin has an orbital four lane motorway like London's M25. Dublin has an underground motorway between it's airport and city centre. There is a massive tram network under construction in Dublin. Dublin is getting a series of underground railways like London's Tube. And Lansdowne Road Stadium has been rebuilt.
Is such huge investment going into the infrastructure of Scotland's capital or even Scotland's largest city Glasgow? No because the south of England is top priority to Westminster.
nwlondoner9 1 year ago 33
@nwlondoner9 Too right mate.
patrickyunblocked 1 year ago 29
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@nwlondoner9 Let me continue your speach about all the things hapening in ireland ...... Ireland's economy is also the laughing stock of europe. Thousands of irish youth are heading out of ireland due to the massive lack of opportunities. There are literally hundreds of empty ghost housing estates and neighbourhoods in ireland, many of them only partly built because of the lack of money. What good is it having roads or rail networks if there is nobody to use them. ...continued...
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 continued...... Ireland is the last example you should use to put forward the case for breaking up the union. Thousands of irish are coming to the UK for opportunities and you are talking about turning Scotland into another Ireland. Dont you understand? Irelands so called 'celtic tiger' economy was a fake boom. It was a fraud. ireland has landsdowne rd but the UK has Murryfield, Millenium and wembley stadiums + many other club football stadiums unrivalled in europe.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne Hello, there's only 61,000 Irish in the UK but 112,000 Brits in Ireland. There's more Brits going to Ireland than Irish going to the UK.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 3
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@nwlondoner9 Oh com on, you can't be that stupid not to understand that out of 60 million Brits compared to just 6 million irish, it is obvious that there may be more brits in ireland than irish in Britain. And im not even sure if your figures are sound. But in any case, it matters not because there are far more brits in this world than irish so obviousely there probably may be more brits in ireland than irish in Britain. It is mostly the youth and skilled in ireland who r leaving ireland
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 Any people Going to ireland from the uk are prob mostly older secure adults who are just going to ireland to enjoy retirement in a baron slow paced countryside type setting. The UK is very fast paced as one of the world's largest and strongest economies. Ireland on the other hand has far less activity and industry so Ireland may be a nice place to enjoy retirement.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@nwlondoner9 let us keep the money from OUR oil then...
miishabear 3 months ago
Says in the video that the UK is 21st on the HDI scale. In 2010 the UK fell down to 26th on the HDI scale and the Republic of Ireland was 5th.
In 2005 Ireland was 1st on the HDI scale and the UK was 29th. So out off all the country's in the world Ireland was the best one to live in 2005 and is usually 20+ places ahead of the UK on the HDI scale.
Ireland achieved that without being part of the UK which proves that a nation can be great without the UK.
nwlondoner9 1 year ago 4
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@nwlondoner9 Ireland? LOL. Good God man have you not been watching the news for the past 3 or 4 months? The Irish economy is the laughing stock of the world. Ireland has been turned into a vassal state of the EU. The EU is practically now the owner of Ireland. And this is what is happening now in the world. Smaller countries are being controlled and dictated to by bigger countries. Our Union helps us punch above our weight. ...Continued
NumberDne 11 months ago
What can Scotland acheive with independence.
It's own lower and upper houses of parliament in Edinburgh with Scottish political parties (no Labour, Tories or Lib Dems) and a prime minister for Scotland.
Scottish taxes paid to Edinburgh and not London.
The Scottish people would have a Scottish birth certificate and a Scottish passport and countries around the world would recognise Scottish people's nationality as Scottish rather than British.
nwlondoner9 1 year ago
@nwlondoner9 Birth certificates in Scotland are already Scottish, with the Scottish royal thistle and the red Scottish Lyon Rampant adorning the decoration registered to all Scots (born Scottish), it's the passports that aren't proper Scottish as they are British but it still has the Scottish coat of arms (the white Unicorn) on half of it.
But I agree, the benefits to Scotland as an independent nation rather than a unionist one far outweigh the negatives.
Scotland have nothing to lose, only gain
segano1 11 months ago
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@segano1 Nothing to lose? please read my post bellow, i have named a number of things to lose.
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9.Cont even without Scotland, England is still a G7, g8, g20 UN permanent security seat major power with a 2 trillion + economy. Not much would change for England. However Scotland would immediately be cast out of any decision making at the world's top tables. Scotland wouldbe reduced to the significance of slovenia. Be bullied by big organisations just as Ireland is today. There would be an exodus of Scotland's youth without the economic weight of the UK, as is the case in Ireland.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne For your information, the Irish economy exited recession last year and unemployment is falling. Let's not forget that GDP per capita in Ireland is higher than the UK and on the HDI scale Ireland is 5th while the UK is 26th. Anyway, Irish independence had fuck all to do with the economy... the Irish simply don't want to be part of a foreign country with foreign people in government and a foreign head of state.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 irish independence directly had lots to do with the irish economy. From having unexperienced incompitent leaders to the fact that Ireland could have competitively devalued its pound to boost exports and fight off economic destruction. Also, within the UK, Ireland could have been bailed out internally without surrendering all to the EU, in the same way that the UK government protected the royal bank of Scotland when it was about to fail.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne It was the Bank of Scotland (Britain's most aggressive lender) that triggered the banking crisis in Ireland. They expanded their business into Ireland and put 100% mortgages on the Irish market. After the Irish banks followed suit they then put 120% mortgages and that put the lending market into overdrive. When the recession hit that led to the banking crisis and the Irish government bailed out the banks to the tune of €50 billion.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 And what is your point on RBS? there were many european banks lending money to ireland, a dont get your point. I'm beginning to think that you are an Irish republican in disguise.
Anyway, either way, i hope you have your wish of leaving the top tables of the world. and i hope you get your wish of being bullied and dictated to by the big countries because scotland leaving uk would make no difference at all to the status of the rest of the UK
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne What he is saying dickhead is that Royal Bank of Scotland opened for business in Ireland and went stark raving mad. RBS is the main cause of the banking crisis in Ireland which led to the government having to bailout the banks. And what's RBS doing now? Closing down their business in Ireland... running away after the mess they caused. A they're a UK bank which goes to show that we're better off having nothing to with anything from the UK.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 2
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@carlowgirl88 The bank i heard was most responsible for Irish crisis is AngloIrish bank. I can imagine that RBS was involved too but i heard it was mainly AIrish.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne No, it's was Anglo Irish Bank that was owed the most money and took €30 billion of the €50 billion bailout from the government. All the banks made mistakes but at the end of the day it was Bank of Scotland that caused the mess by coming here and putting 100% and 120% mortgates on the market which put the Irish lending market into overdrive.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 3
@carlowgirl88 Good girl... you tell that fucker. He thinks the UK is so fucking great but in the past few days I heard the UK government is short of money, the governer of the Bank of England says there is going to be another banking crisis in Britain, and there's a programme on TV in Britain tonight asking if the UK should start selling off it's assets. Basically, the UK is fucked and we already had the Bank of England saying our problems were to last until 2029 but now they're getting worse.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 3
@nwlondoner9 2029? Things seem worse over there than I thought. But in reality the recession in Ireland has ended and unemployment is going down. The company I work for was laying off workers six months ago but started recruiting again a few weeks ago. And over the past couple of months more foreign companies, attracted by our low corporation tax, have set up business in Ireland creating more jobs. The worst is over and things are now looking up.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 4
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@nwlondoner9 why is your name nwlondon when you are not even from here? dont make sense.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne I've lived in Kingsbury in North West London (postcode NW9) my whole life. I have a few friends and a son who've moved to Ireland.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 6
@nwlondoner9 He really is as thick as a fuckin' sheep. Trying to make out that an Irish bank is the cause of the banking crisis in Ireland when in reality it was a UK bank. The bank he's thinking of was just owed the most money but it was Bank of Scotland that was the cause when they came to Ireland and put 100% and 120% mortgages on the market and made the Irish lending market go insane. And according to the same stupid cunt... Bank of Scotland had to be rescued in the UK.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 6
@carlowgirl88 He cannot accept that one of Britain's banks triggered the state the Irish banking system is in. I have a son living in Ireland so I know what's going on over there. He even thinks that I'm not from London but I've lived here my whole life. He thinks he knows everything but he don't know shit.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 6
@nwlondoner9 He even said that the Brits emmigrating to Ireland are old which ain't true because 11 houses were built near me in recent years and there's Brits in their 20's and 30's living in half of them. I'm hearing the English accent more and more over here and they're all young Brits. And I'm even working with Brits. If the UK is so bleedin' great then what the fuck are they doing over here?
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 7
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@carlowgirl88 Are you seriousely trying 2 deny that ther's an exodus of Irish youth coming out of Ireland? It doesn't matter if you have brits working with u in ireland, the facts are that there are not enough jobs for Irish graduates let alone british graduates in Ireland. It is a bit childish to say "11 houses were built near me in recent years and there's Brits in their 20's and 30's living in half of them". I could just say the same about young irish people in Britain. facts r facts
NumberDne 11 months ago
@nwlondoner9 He also said "baron industry" but there are 310 Industrial Estates and Business Parks in Dublin alone.
Computers is one thing we produce a lot of in Ireland. Dell and Apple opened their European factories in Ireland and not the UK. Even the computers in the cockpits of US Air Force aircraft were made in Ireland.
And more international companies have set up business in Ireland in recent months. Irish industry is a hell of a lot bigger than he'd like to think it is.
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@carlowgirl88 The only reason why dell and apple opened their factories in ireland is because Ireland has a very low corperate tax. Basically cheapening ireland to beg for companies to open in Ireland. But unfortunately for Ireland that will change because the EU will eventually force Ireland to raise the corperate tax rate to harmonize the eurozones corperate tax rates. and there is nothing Ireland can do about it because Ireland is a eurozone country which has been forced to borrow billions
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne In actual fact the Irish government is adamant that the corporation tax will be staying as it is and that has been made quite clear to the EU.
And I'll say it again... if the UK is so bleedin' wonderful why are so many fuckin' Brits over here? You said on a previous post that they're old but they're actually young so that was something else you were wrong about.
You think you know everything but you don't know half of it. You're as thick as a fuckin' sheep.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 8
@carlowgirl88 I doubt that bastard knows anyone who lives in Ireland. I have a son and a few friends living there so I hear from them what's really going on over there and not the unrealistic bullshit from UK media.
My son is 30 in May and he's already finished paying his mortgage. I'm 49 and I'm still paying mine. At least you don't have to pay for water or council tax in Ireland which helps makes you financially better off there.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 8
@nwlondoner9 You're son is not the only one who has paid his mortgage at a young age. I have two brothers who are 34 and 37 and their mortgages are also paid. The fact that you're still paying yours at 49 says a lot.
You having to pay for tap water in the UK is laughable. And I've just looked up council tax on Wikipedia... tragic! I'm glad we don't have to pay that here.
Yeah we have people here from East Europe which we needed because jobs outnumbered job seekers here a few years ago.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 10
@carlowgirl88 I'm not surprised so many of ours are coming to live in Ireland. England is full of foreigners. I'm living in one of two areas in the UK where Britons are a minority. Walk down the main road in the area where I live and you don't hear a word of English. If I use a bus I'm usually the only person on it that is white. Eastern Europeans are the latest to desend on us and I hear from my son that you've had your fair share of them as well.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 8
@nwlondoner9 You normally find yourself being only the English person on a London bus? That's hilarious! At least the buses in Dublin are full of Dubliners and obviously you'd get one from East Europe. The Brits are becoming a minority in their own country... that's so funny. I hope we don't start getting outnumbered by all the bleedin' Brits coming here. Those university fee are a joke and I wouldn't blame them for coming here... I just hope they don't end up staying.
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@carlowgirl88 Lol, have you 2 finished your "harmonious ireland = promised land" dribble?. I wouldnt be surprised if youre actually the same person pretending to be two people. Anyone that says that "many young people in the UK are going to Ireland" is either one of two things. 1) Is a deluded irish republican living in massive denial about the state of the the Irish economy. or 2) Is a dumb muthu fucker who doesn't read the news & doesn't get out at all to talk to anyone. U choose
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@carlowgirl88 Lol, have you 2 finished your "harmonious ireland = promised land" dribble?. I wouldnt be surprised if youre actually the same person pretending to be two people. Anyone that says that "many young people in the UK are going to Ireland" is either one of two things. 1) Is a deluded irish republican living in massive denial about the state of the the Irish economy. or 2) Is a dumb muthu fucker who doesn't read the news & doesn't get out at all to talk to anyone. U choose.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne All you come out with is total bullshit. You know fuck all. My son has paid his mortgage before he's 30 and I'm still paying mine at 49. And that girl says her brothers mortgages are paid and they're in their mid 30's. People are financially better off in Ireland. The UK economy is shrinking but the Irish ecomomy is out of recession. My next door lost her job three years ago and is still unemployed. And unemployment in Ireland is falling.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 7
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@nwlondoner9 Oh fuck this, yuo are really boring me because you wont look at the news to find out how bad the irish economy is. You are another Irish person living in London because your passion for Ire is over the top. The whole world was focused for 3 months on the failure of the Irish economy and you come here talking about "promised land Ireland". You are deffinately Irish. And you probably are same person as corlowgirl88. No English man insults his country, especially for Ireland.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne And yet again I remind you that GDP per capita in greater in Ireland than the UK. And Ireland is 5th on the HDI scale while the UK is 26th. My son living in Ireland has paid his mortgage and he hasn't reached his 30th birthday yet. I've compared the quality of life in great detail and Ireland is a better country to live in especially for pensioners. And I also remind you that I've lived in London my whole life and I for one want rid of the UK and have an independent England.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago
@NumberDne And I also remind you that the Irish economy came out if recession last year while the UK economy is shrinking. And unemployment is falling in Ireland. And carlowgirl8 did say that her employer was laying off workers not so long ago and is now recruiting again.
And I also remind you that that on the news over the past few days the UK government is short of money and the Bank of England says there's going to be another banking crisis in Britain.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 16
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@carlowgirl88 Forget your claims of knowing some English people in ireland which is a completely inaccurate method of summing up the amount of English people in Ireland. Listen to this news report with reporters who have professionally worked out the sums on who is coming and who is gowing from Ireland.
watch?v=rzWMKVifqSI
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne Let's talk pensions. I heard that the UK has the lowest pensions in Europe. So I've compared quality of life of the elderly in UK and Ireland.
1: State pension in Ireland is much higher than the UK.
2: In Ireland the elderly get payments towards their utilities and in the UK they don't.
3: There's no water charges or council tax in Ireland and that's expenses the UK elderly have to face.
So the UK elderly have a lot more expenses on a much lower pension than those in Ireland.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 7
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@nwlondoner9 I totally agree with u on these points, These loose comfortable policies are part of what caused Ireland to get into so much debt. The whole of ireland, both government and people were living and spending as if they were Germany when infact their economic boom was fake. That is why the EU is now imposing rules by which ireland must live by. There's practically no point in voting for any party in ireland, because the real government of ireland is now the EU commission.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@nwlondoner9 Just read your comment on pensions. That's really disgusting how they're treated in the UK. At least I know I'm living in the right country when I retire.
I notice you got no comeback from that Mr. Bullshitter when it came to mortgages, university fees or pensions. You've talked him down and talked him down good.
I saw that video you shared with me... I love it. I see it was only uploaded here last night so I'm guessing it was Mr. Bullshitter that inspired you to make it. LOL
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 19
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@carlowgirl88 You really are one sad fucker. You sit on youtube all day making lots of different accounts pretending to be different people and thumbing up your own comments. This is so obvious because all of your comments from 'carlowgirl and nwlondoner' have miraculousely been thunmbed up the same amount of times. Wow you really are a sad peice of work. I actually feel sorry for you now, your life must be very dull. LOL
NumberDne 11 months ago
@carlowgirl88
I'm hoping we get plenty of English over here in the Republic, and I'm most definitely no unionist. Many seem to like a holiday home here, as do many Germans, or have family here, and we got a few houses to fill. Hotels too.
HLecterPHD 1 month ago
@carlowgirl88 And there's another thing that's going to drive young people out of the UK is the university fees going up to £10,000 a year. At least in Ireland it'll be only €3,000 which is about a quarter of what it'll be in the UK. Many more young Britons will desend on Ireland in the years to come love.
nwlondoner9 11 months ago 37
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NumberDne 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 25billion more bailout up to 70 billion euros, lol wow, ireland is really the destination ha paddy? you fake londoner wannabe
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@carlowgirl88 And please show me where i said that ireland has "baron industry"? I never said ireland has "baron industry". Do you have to resort to telling lies to try to win the debate?
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne I actually mistyped that and you really said "Ireland has far less industry" but there are 310 Industrial Estates and Business Parks in Dublin alone so there is a hell of a lot more industry here than you think. I doubt Edinburgh or Cardiff can say they have more industry than Dublin.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 8
@carlowgirl88 I just said it was anglo/irish cant you read?
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne Yes, Anglo Irish Bank was owed the most money but it was Bank of Scotland that was the cause as I've heard plenty of times on Irish TV.
carlowgirl88 11 months ago 6
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@carlowgirl88 Let me finally just tell you this. Most of Scotlands achievements have needed the economic and global muscle of England to make them happen. Most Scottish things which England is not part of are pretty insignificant. One example can be the Scottish premier league. Wiithout the involvement of England, the Scottish premier league is very poor. While without Scotland's involvement, the English premier league is the best in the world. Ponder on that for a while.
NumberDne 11 months ago
@NumberDne Yawn. Typical unionist. Always bringing down Scotland.
Scotland subsidises England. FACT. Scottish GERS report. Google it.
Seems like the opposite is true now.....
patrickyunblocked 11 months ago 20
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@patrickyunblocked Most Scots dont want their millitary to be reduced to a millitary like Eritrea's. They want to stay part of the world's top 5 millitaries.
I have started to feel like this after initially feeling brotherhood and family love for Scotland that if you want to go then go cos it wont make a blind bit of difference to England without Scotland. However it is a fact that without England, Scotland loses out bigtime on a global scale. 5 million is peanuts to England's 50 + million
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@NumberDne If the united kingdom broke up England would not be in the security council.
Why do think Westminster holds on to Scotland.
Keep dreaming.
patrickyunblocked 11 months ago
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@patrickyunblocked Yes it would be stop kidding yourself. Scotland is only 5 million populated. That number is 7 million less than the population of London. England would still keep its place on all of the top tables of the world with a 2 trillion + economy. Work out the sums and see for yourself. England has a 2 trillion plus economy. A figure that only UN security council seat countries have apart from Germany and japan due to WW2. even Russia with a 1.5 trillion economy is in it.
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@patrickyunblocked It is the majority of Scots who hold on to the UK not westminster that holds on to Scotland. The SNP is a minority government and that is why Scotland is holding onto the UK, and wisely so. Most Sots dont want their country reduced to the status of countries like slovenia. They want their country to stay part of the nation which had the greatest empire ever and which is even today among the strongest economies in the world, that is why the English Scottish union lives.
NumberDne 11 months ago
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@nwlondoner9 In any case i am over the moon that Ireland is not part of the UK. because rep of Ireland was only really just a British protectorate. Both Scottish and English settled in Northern Ireland and the Northern Irish are not jumping to become part of Ireland. On the contrary, the Northern Irish are proud of their UK identity. Also the Canadians Australians and Newzealanders are also very proud of their Anglo/Celtic British roots. We at least owe it to them to be united.
NumberDne 11 months ago
Proudly Scottish Proudly British
midgiemarsh 1 year ago
vote snp no more scotland paying westminster
MrScottishJamie 1 year ago
Shetland independencce!
NumberDne 1 year ago
Britain is a small island as it is, it would be madness to break it up into even smaller countries. What we need to do is build a proud, strong Britain based on truth, honour and loyalty, then we'd all be happy to be a part of Britain. Together we are stronger.
stepheng1483 1 year ago
@stepheng1483, Naw fuck britain!
You talk a lot of shite!
Nobody cares about 'britain', it's not even a real country! The independece movement is based on the future constitution of Scotland and what's best for Scotland!, What happens south of the border is completely irrelevant to Scotland!
Independence is the only true way for Scotland!
GLORD99092 1 year ago
@GLORD99092 "What's beat for Scotland!" If Scotland ever was independant they would continue to fill Scotland with non-whites, that hardly sounds like what's best for Scotland to me. They'd also still be controlled by the E.U.
stepheng1483 1 year ago
@stepheng1483 And its funny because after the romans moved out of england and left the bretons defenceless, it was the picts from scotland who terrorised, killed and raided the inhabitants of england, untill the saxons were asked to come and defend england. So infact it was scotts who started the bitter fighting between england and scotland. Its just abit holyer than thou attitude to rave on about the mean nasty english who killed scotts.and use it as an argument for independence.
NumberDne 1 year ago
@NumberDne It's the Romans who started trying to invade the Scottish Picts first, they conquered all of what's now known as England and Wales, but when they went to Scotland to try the same, the people stood up against them and spat in their face and sent them packing back down south again where built Hadrian's wall as a protectional fortress for defence.Then after the Romans left, the Angles came and tried the same, but the Scottish Picts viciously demolished them at the battle of Dun Nechtain.
segano1 11 months ago
@segano1 When the romans withdrew from Britain it was the Picts who raided and terrified the defenceless Britons. They did this until the Angles came and took over southern Britain. So nobody can really try to take the moral highground. Between those groups who today still populate Britain, it was the Picts who were first to be aggressors. But that was how it was in those times. This is 2011 and all that squabbling is in the past. We have wisely strengthened each other by uniting Britain.
NumberDne 11 months ago
Yes I am a Scottish patriot and I will vote snp when I'm 18 but I think the ww1 deaths of scots were so high because the whole british army was in the command of Field Marshal Haig who was Scottish so he probably just wanted to have victories along with his fellow countrymen
SCOTTISHB0Y 1 year ago
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@akropiss I understand why. They took our country and they try to took away our language to. Bill 101 was create to bring back french presence in Montréal, and yes maybe its going to far on some point. And I don't understand why you said "we won't be leaving our homes again, either way, we respect the decision" are you so afraid of Québec independance ? Nobody will force you to leave.
try0003 1 year ago
0:50 Holy fuck i cant believe dat
RollingKadio 1 year ago
@RollingKadio the reason they made up such a percentage of the casualties is that British army regiments are spread out pretty evenly over the country, though there is a concentration in London. the percentage of Scottish regiments is more to do with geography that population concentration
maccyjames64 1 year ago
I support independence for Scotland, but your so-called "facts" are nothing of the sort. This is just dramatised pish. Nothing is that simple, and there is no point in playing the victim all the time.
steaphris 1 year ago
"As long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours, that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself".THE DECLARATION OF ABROATH 1320! Independence! TURNCOAT SCOTS! Stop your pish! Vote for Independence! vote for progress!
Alastairbell 1 year ago
The problem wiht referendum it will never be respected by UK. Just take a look to Quebec referendum in 1995 we lost it by less than 1%, and a lot of fraud was made by the Canadian gourvernement on this.
But behind the lie and the corrupt main stream media.People of scotland will find out the truth.
try0003 2 years ago
@try0003 nice conspiracy theory. 19% of the Scottish population voted SNP last year; thats why Scotland is not independent.
btw your not french.
maccyjames64 1 year ago
@maccyjames64 its not a conspiracy theory, its a fact, and you can easely find documentation on this. 19% don't prove that scotland will never be independant. And yes im french ...
try0003 1 year ago
@try0003 it might be in the future, but the fact is if it wanted to be we would let it. I may be wrong about your ethnicity but only 30% of you have any French ancestry and for the most part it makes up less that 50% of those peoples blood. you've been living in Canada for at least 250 years, YOUR NOT FRENCH
maccyjames64 1 year ago
@maccyjames64 I do not describe myself as a French from France. I said I am French because I speak French, and the vast majority of people of Québec have direct French ancestry. Indeed, in the past some people came to Québec from scotland and Ireland and now many of them have French ancestry.
try0003 1 year ago
@try0003 @try0003 as far as i remember (I read in some newspaper article, Times or something respectable), 80% of you speak French as their first language but only 30% of you are ethnically French, those that are French obviously being further mixed. the Quebecan obsession with being French is considered quite amusing to the rest of the world. you yourself may be mainly French but the majority of you aren't. btw you may be right about the voting thingy, i can't honestly pretend to know.
maccyjames64 1 year ago
@maccyjames64 Yes the 80% is true but the 30% I think its a worng data. And annyway if you take a look at the actual population of France not so many of them are "ethnically" French today. :P
try0003 1 year ago
@try0003 yeh, about 91% are. plus they actually live in France, not Canada. Quebec is the only French speaking part of the world that is difficult enough to make up new French words when English ones come along. about 63% of you are Canadian and pretending not to be and the remaining 7% are from other ethnic groups.
maccyjames64 1 year ago
@maccyjames64 I don't pretend to be a french from france I said Im French beacause I speak French. as the same for the english canadian I call them english.
And yes I am a Canadian but only on my passport. It is difficult to feel like a Canadian when your gouvernement make anticonstitutional law like the "loi sur la clarté" agains Québec who said only a victory of 60% for the independance will be recognise.
try0003 1 year ago
@try0003 fair enough, there is no convincing you otherwise.
maccyjames64 1 year ago
@try0003 If your bloodline is French then you are French.
Just like saying a negro from the USA isn't African because he wasn't born there.
patrickyunblocked 1 year ago
@patrickyunblocked a black man who was born in the USA is American. most black men in the US think of themselves as American's. basically the whole of the population of North America where immigrants in the recent past arriving at different times. how many Americans do you see being nationalistically Irish or German? how many Canadians Scottish? or South Africans Dutch? it just you who is stubborn. why hold onto France though ridiculous links?
maccyjames64 1 year ago
VOTE SNP
VOTE FOR FREEDOM
scottishrebal95 2 years ago 3
if u have xbox live add me djb1995 thats my gamer tag and if u have mw2 put ur clan tag to SFF
scottishrebal95 2 years ago
Just keep the E.U. and the zionist and Islam out of Scotland and she will do just fine on her own.
Drighten 2 years ago
BULLSHIT. every single fact is wrong.
i'm going to laugh when you get independence and realised your fucked.
maccyjames64 2 years ago
at least not all of us are gettin brainwashed by this bullshit!
the independace dosent seem to be doing anything atoll for the people.
just the oil companys, banks, government, and the queen.
when will the cattle wake up? :(
hminbam 2 years ago
Scottish Independence is essential.
VOTE SNP
chadscotland 2 years ago 7
load of pish
padyd123 2 years ago
The irony for me is that thanks to the over generous block grant it recieves from the UK Treasury, the Scottish people are being bribed to stay in the Union. Yet there are still Scots who contend that they are being fleeced by the nasty English.
Only when English MP`s stand up for us and end the anti-English Barnett formula will I in any way feel the Scot`s have anything to whinge about!
tavyred 2 years ago
You could also say the Scottish banks collapsed under the European Union. What differance would it have made?
sapmmer 2 years ago
so your saying that Scotland would have been fine in the recession becuase it has oil....which Norway also has, and they were fine?
Thats like me handing in two lines of homework (which should be a 500word essay) and because I have the name Karl in it, it will be fine because Karls homework was fine with two lines, even though he is in a differant class.
And British Taxpayers had to bail out Scottish banks.
And no one believes gorden brown or the labour party anyway.
sapmmer 2 years ago
Scotland recieves more per head thru our oil, not that the union is our good friend !! we even have weapons of mass destruction in our waters thanks to england, coulda dun it to wales n no one would really care, n on top of that the english make us look like moanin bastards, stop interfering with our independence referendum, once we get independence us scots ul be happy
Rfc1Darryl 2 years ago
great video patrickyunblocked, unionist scots make me sick, free bonnie Scotland !!
Rfc1Darryl 2 years ago
SUPER T DRINKERS!
LEEDRILLER1 2 years ago
fuck the union !! even wales want out !! scotland needs to be first out as we hate the english with a passion
Rfc1Darryl 2 years ago
Also the whole of Britian is pathetic in comparison toi Scotland. Britian has over 50 million people. Scotland only 5.
For Scotland to have all these inventions with that population is amazing.
Britians however is not.
LEAVE SCOTLAND ALONE!
patrickyunblocked 2 years ago
Scotland gets more taxpayer's money per head than england.
that means english taxes are going towards scotland and not the other way.
I am scottish and even i can admit scotland would go to shit if we were independant, we lack the essential infrastructure.
Chairmaneoin 2 years ago
No, Scotland raises more in tax per head than England which means the flow of money is from north to south. Mind you keep perpetuating the other myth, maybe the English will kick us out - we'll still get independence whichever way.
What infrastructure do we lack? If we get more spent on us in general - whether it be on hospitals, schools, roads or airports (infrastructure) - then how can we lack it?
You're contradicting your own argument.
globaltraveller 2 years ago
DEAD.
97kcoats 2 years ago
Scotland get more of those taxes per head than england. Do you realise how taxes work?
Look at how many English people work in Scotland keeping Scotland running, If scotland became independant a huge number of scottish people would have to magically have the skills needed to fill important positions that have been held by emglish workers.
Scotland will have absolutely no influence on the world stage if we become independant, we'll just be an insignificant little country nobody cares about.
Chairmaneoin 2 years ago
Oh god. You're right. I never thought about that. I mean no English people work outside England in other independent countries. Ever. You'll never find an Englishman living or working in another country that independent of England. Ever.
I mean what about all the 800,000 Scots in England. One of them runs Royal Mail and the other runs the country. That means Scots have no talent. What if they all come home at once? Where will be put them all?
globaltraveller 2 years ago
You miss the point entirely. What I'm saying is that Scotland has not reaching it's good state entirely by it's own merit.
An independant Scotland would be full of english people half running it. So it wouldn't be fully independant.
Chairmaneoin 2 years ago
So?
It would be independent of Westminster and the United Kingdom Government. That is what independence is.
It has nothing to do with whether we have English people/Poles/Spaniards/Irish/Kiwis working and living here.
I live in Edinburgh and we have all of those and more working here in top jobs and otherwise.
It has nothing to do with "independence".
globaltraveller 2 years ago
So the independance you want is purely beurocratic, a paper independance. And yet people call me unpatriotic for looking out for Scotland's best interests.
Despite these arguments, my main thing against independance has always been that the drive for independance is fueled primarily by anglophobia. And it's pathetic how much ridiculous anglophobia is present in our country.
Chairmaneoin 2 years ago