Brother, I think you are very confused, because what you have said you believe and what I have said I believe are polar opposites of each other. You say Christ died for all, but he died for the elect (John 10:11). You say salvation is a matter of man's free will, but its of God's (Eph 1:5). You say salvation is about an opportunity, but it's about grace (Eph 2:8-9) You say all are sheep, but some are not (John 10:26). Do you want evangelical tradition and fanfare - or the word of God?
@theearstohear hi hun. jus interested by this conversation. nd this statement "he died for the elect (John 10:11). " r u saying that Jesus didn't die for the sins of the world,the worldy, the unrighteous? tho some are not sheep they are only not sheep because they are not in Jesus. "any man who be in Christ is a new creature." and yes it is true that salvation is by grace. but grace through faith and faith by hearing. any1 can be saved.
@TSGdancer - Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11) which are those chosen before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4). They were all by nature children of wrath, even as others (Eph 2:3) who were not chosen by God to shed his mercy upon (Rom 9:18). People do not believe to BECOME sheep, they believe because they ARE sheep (John 10:27). One does not believe to get "in Christ", being "in Christ" is why one believes. (John 8:47). You say "any can", Christ said, "no man can..." (John 6:44).
@theearstohear in response to Eph 1:4 which i found very interesting and looked into:A Christian is only elect by virtue of Christ’s election, not on account of a pretemporal choice by God out of the mass of fallen humanity. It is at the point of conversion, i.e., a believer’s incorporation into the church, that election could be said to apply to any individual...
@TSGdancer - The pretemporal election of people unto salvation is PRECISELY what is taught in Ephesians 1:4. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." The choice in view here is pretemporal (before the foundation of the world), it is "in Christ", and is prior to either conversion or church membership since it is before the dawn of time. Your argument is not with me, it is with the bible.
@theearstohear no my argument isnt with the bible. you cant take things out of context. acknowledgin the full story of the bible is necesary in interpresting every part b/c they are not independant of each other. God has the power to save anyone who puts their trust in him. the elect are those who are saved. u are adopted into God's family when you are saved. john 3:16 (so that WHOEVER believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life[Jesus=the way,truth and life]
@TSGdancer - I agree that you have to consider the whole bible - so no dispute there :) I think you will find that people believe because they ARE adopted, they do not believe to BECOME adopted. "And BECAUSE YE ARE SONS God hath sent forth the spirit of His son into your hearts crying Abba, Father." (Gal 4:6). That verse teaches that it is the fact that you already ARE a son that God regenerated you and gave you the faith to believe. That's a DEEP truth - if you enter into it. Blessings.
@TSGdancer - Iron sharpens iron. Keep searching the scriptures. There's plenty of sheep food in there for the whole flock of God. :) May God bless your studies and your journey.
@theearstohear Paul refers to the elect as those who have already benefited from their election, but God views their condition prior to all that His activity will produce. The objects of election are unbelievers, who will become believers on account of their election. Eph2:3 is referring to all who hav not been saved including the saved when they were still of the world. in reference to rom 9:8 u can check this out if u want
its up 2 us too work out our own salvation...study ur self to b aproved...Jesus said I did not come to condem ..Be like Jesus ..reach out to others..b like Jesus ..dont condem..I may not agree with Hillsong but they have to answer God not I or you but them..
@TerrySiler11121967 Do not use our Lord to make money...we as Christians oppose abortion and other things why not using our Lord's name in vain to make money? We have to speak out to guide others onto the right path. God bless.
hillsong is nothing but a scam by Bobby and Brian to make money. REAL CHRISTIANS are disgusted by Hillsong...all the flashy musical shows will not justify their use of our LORD to make money SHAME SHAME SHAME
@redredredtoo What do you consider a "REAL CHRISTIAN"? The last I check one must be born again according to the scriptures. So what is the qualifications of the "REAL CHRISTIAN" that you're referring to? Please explain.
@larrydholland Someone who does not turn our LORD JESUS CHRIST into a money making rock concert franchise like the Hillsongers do. Bobbi and Brian are just two scam artists, who channel most funds into their own pockets, and developing bigger better facilities to host concerts. THAT IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. SEE nobel prize winning mother Theresa.
@redredredtoo May I ask where are you getting your information on the pastors being scam artists. Also there's a danger in comparing one person to another.
@redredredtoo I would suggest that you do your own investigation of the church. Just because someone claims to be an expert doesn't make them one. Some will call churches cult just because they don't fit in their cute little box. I have known people that said that about a church I attended years ago and when asked why they believe that, it was because they didn't believe exactly like them or the church was just too large it suppose to stay small. Even though thousand were added daily.
@larrydholland Jesus was a humble man...this rock concert Hillsong flashiness would not be approved by Him. He taught that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter the kingdom of Heaven....A humble life and self sacrifice is what is required of a Christian...but Hillsongers with their flashy concerts, and high income for preachers like Brian are exploiting God's work for profits! God bless you for your enquiring nature...
The one thing missing from this service is a successful savior. Sadly this group proclaims a Christ that died for everyone and yet some are still not saved. If one preached the Christ of the bible to this crowd, a Christ that died for the sheep (John 10:11) and who actually saved them (Heb 10:14) by his own obedience (Rom 5:19), not by theirs, you would likely empty this auditorium of disciples as surely as when Jesus preached he was sovereign in salvation (John 6:65-66).
@theearstohear That's true, Jesus did die for everyone, but it's up to the individual to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. No one can force salvation on anyone, It is a choice, a free will choice.There are a lot of churches around the world that preach Jesus and still people refuse. Your statement about Jesus being preached maybe a presumptive. That unless of course you attend the services. This may have been a night of just Praise and Worship to our God!
@larrydholland If Jesus died for the sins of every human being on earth, and all are not saved, then Jesus Christ is an unsuccessful savior. Gospel truth is that Jesus died for the sheep (John 10:11) and not all are sheep (John 10:26). Salvation is not a matter of man's free will (Rom 9:16), it is a matter of God's free will (Eph 1:5). To one of a similar misunderstaning the Lord once said, "Ye worship ye know not what." (John 4:22)
@theearstohear If Jesus only died for the sheep, then how can one be saved. Since we weren't not sheep. We had to come to the knowledge of Jesus to accept what he did on the cross. The sheep he's referring to is the ones who believe in him. He had to died for all of humanity. Jesus had come to saved the lost. I believe I understand what you're trying to communicate but applying to the wrong area. God gives everyone the opportunity to be saved, some choose not to take it.
@larrydholland - You don't believe to become a sheep, you believe because you are a sheep (John 10:27), chosen from eternity past (Eph 1:4). "Acceptance" of Christ's work doesn't MAKE it effectual, it believes that it WAS effectual. The good shepherd looks for lost sheep, not goats. Salvation is not by "opportunity"; salvation is by grace. (Eph 2:8-9). Consider: If Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11) and some are not sheep (John 10:26) does it not follow that he did not die for them?
@theearstohear Based off what you're saying then, those that are lost can't be saved. How can they come to know Jesus if he did died for all who sinned? That's what salvation is about, in 2 Peter 3: 9 "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (NASB) Notice the Scriptures state that God doesn't want any to perish.There are only 2 that had roles for perishing Judas & the antichrist.
@larrydholland - No, I'm saying that men are saved by what Christ did, not by what they do. "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE shall many be made righteous." (Rom 5:19) Faith is a fruit of salvation (Gal 5:22), not a prerequisite to salvation that effectuates the atonement. You need to look at who is addressed in II Pet 3:9 - "you" which is believers (II Peter 1:1). Search for "Office Theology 109 - II Pet 3:9" for a fuller explanation.
@theearstohear I understand fully what you're saying and couldn't agree more. It was definitely an honor to dialogue with a fellow believer. God Bless!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - john 3:16
@TruthandSpirit26 the gospel is not part of the trinity. the trinity consists of three persons in one, God the father, God the son & God the Holy Spirit...
@folabad Amen! Bible never teach Trinity or 3 persons in 1 Godhead, instead, it said that the Godhead dwells in Jesus Col. 2:8-10, God manifested Himself into flesh 1 Tim. 3:16. That's the perfect salvation, God is NOT 3 persons. He is numerically one who spawned His spirit in flesh (Son) to be a perfect sacrifice for us. YHWH/Father is Jesus in flesh! Isaiah 9:6
Help our delight be in u, not in the passing pleasures of this life which seem so great but are really empty compared to being in a relationship with you. "Delight in the Lord, and He will give u the desires of your heart" Psalms. "Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever" Psalm 73. NONE BUT JESUS< none.
Jesus is God manifesting himself in human form. They are one in the same and thus when you worship God you are worshiping Jesus and when you are worshiping Jesus you are worshiping Christ.
ah yes.. I understand now.. so - your god had himself born to a virgin, so he could have himself crucified and re-write some of the laws he made?
Maybe I'm being naive here, but could you explain why it's in any way a "sacrifice" or even "difficult" for a god to have his human manifestation "killed" - what does that do to the god - anything at all? why is it a "sacrifice"?
FYI, noreality is a youtube atheist troll that goes from Christian video to video just to say silly things and insult us. It is how he chooses to live his life. He is motivated not by science, reason, or logic - but purely emotion and bigotry toward all things Christian.
AS LONG AS THIS IS A GATHERING TO SING AND PRAISE THE LORD THIS IS OK BUT WHEN YOU CALL IT THE CHURCH WITH ORDINARY PEOPLE AS PRIESTS YOU GO IN WRONG DIRECTION WITHOUT SACRAMENTS, PENANCE, EUCHARIST AND THE TRUTH!!!
JESUS CHRIST CAME AS A HUMAN AND LEFT US MATERIAL CHURCH-RELIGION, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES AND HIS APOSTLES TO BE SURE WHAT THE TRUTH IS !!!
God died for us. He didn't ask for all of us to love him, but it doesn't mean that we should disrespect him and say hurtful things about him. Don't make him die in vain. He gave us freewill, use that free will to do good, not spend time convincing others that God isn't real.
go and believe!!! when you think the hell is not there, that's not true!!!! the hell is there! when you not believe you go to hell! it's terrible! but when you believe, you go to God, and He loves You! He gives You all the love that You need! and i say with all my heart: I BELIEVE! Do you agree? i pray for the people who not believe!
"go and believe!!! when you think the hell is not there, that's not true!!!! the hell is there! when you not believe you go to hell! it's terrible! but when you believe, you go to God, and He loves You!"
and ipso facto - if we don't believe, we go to hell... but apparently your god still loves us?
so - he loves us, but not enough to save us from hell right? What, exactly, does that accomplish?
There is no one else but Jesus. John 14. That's who i choose to believe. Thanks for the eloquent and beautiful song that expresses not only scriptures but also the experience of mine and millions across so many disparate cultures who have placed their trust in this Jesus.
God bless you all. Suffering and Struggles, Doubt about God, WILL DEFINITELY COME. It's an axiom. You know why that happens? Because we THINK instead of BELIEVING. We're short of faith. Believing is hard and full of struggles like Jesus way of life. That's all I had to say. Just keep praying guys, never give up and whatever you ask when you pray, you'll get it if God wants it so. If it doesn't happen, then it better be that way. I'm 17 years old orthodox boy and my goal is to become a priest.
@TheRealityofNature wait i'm confused. you say God is a myth yet you are mad at him for killing innocent people therefore claiming you DO in fact believe God is real. otherwise why argue or get upset at something that doesn't exist? God has rules for His children just as each person has rules for their homes. if you tell someone don't steal yet they do it, consequences are taken into action. we've just developed kinder means of punishment over many years.
@TheRealityofNature i can't help but laugh at how ridiculous you make yourself sound. your points aren't relevant to anyone you just like looking for arguments to prove how smart you are when in fact you aren't as smart as you think. & i don't have kids but if i did i wouldn't torture them though others in the world DO torture their kids & it happens, christian or not. & my God is kinder than you could ever be.can't claim God is immoral without fact you're just
erm. you claimed god's punishment for his rules are "just as each person has rules for their homes". When I pointed out that god's punishment is eternal torture, you scurried to confess that in fact, eternal torture to children is something that only immoral people do.
Well done, you've acknowledged your god's "punishment" is immoral.
@TheRealityofNature spitting out words. keep your opinions to yourself. stop trying to post on a video to get attention when in fact you make no sense of yourself. let those of us who believe in the truth that IS God enjoy it without having immature people like yourself try and disprove what has already been proven. i am not bashing your silly theories so don't bash our truth.
"i am not bashing your silly theories so don't bash our truth."
Well you'd have problems if you did, but the reason you're not, is because you're simply ignorant of them - even so, you did "bash" my "silly" theories. It's amusing to me that so many theists declare factually supported theories about which they know absolutely nothing, to be "silly".
your catch-cry is: "I have no idea what you're talking about... but it's wrong".
Romans 14:11 says "For It Is Written: As I Live, Says The Lord, EVERY Knee Will BOW To ME And EVERY Tongue WIll GIve Praise To GOD" as it goes on in Verse 12 it says " So Then, Each Of Us Will Give An Account Of Himself To God"
good question! why don't you ask your god? afterall, he's guilty of the most horrible massacres of all time: murdering thousands of innocent children in the floods of genesis, the burnings of the cities of the plains - drowning and burning innocent people alive - for the crimes of their parents.
So yeah, good question - why does your god hate innocent people? why ask him for me, then get back to me - he's stopped answering my questions!
@TheRealityofNature Correction: flood. There was only one flood. And "innocent children" is a bit general. A child is quite capable of doing wrong, I assure you. Palestinian Muslim children are taught to hate their Jewish neighbors. As a result, they grow up hating Jews, despite never really understanding why. In fact, they (the children) even go so far as to give up their lives as suicide bombers. They grow up with the same beliefs and faith as the people behind the 9/11 incident.
@TheRealityofNature Burning and drowning of innocent people alive? Yes, burned and drowned. Although the Bible clearly states that these people were not "innocent". In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 19:4 says that all the men of the cities, both YOUNG AND OLD, gathered around the house of Lot and asked for the 2 men (the angels) to be brought out so they could have sex with them. That's not exactly "innocent".
"Although the Bible clearly states that these people were not "innocent". In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah"
lol - ALL the cities of the plains were burned to the ground, and you're going to tell me there was not a single toddler in ANY of the cities?
you're not thinking again. when you read your bible, you should actually think about the words, think about the reality. If you don't, then you're simply lying to yourself.. but we knew that.
@TheRealityofNature In Genesis 18, you see that Abraham intervened and begged God to spare Sodom. God actually agreed that if He found just 10 righteous people out of the hundreds or thousands of people residing there, He would spare them. (According to archeological findings, Sodom was estimated to be home to around 600-1200 people.) That seems like a pretty good deal to me: 10 people out of, say, 800. But there were only 4. (Lot's two son-in-laws didn't buy the "fire and brimstone" thing.)
@TheRealityofNature Regarding the Flood, Genesis 6:11-12 says specifically that the ENTIRE earth was corrupt. ("...for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways." - Gen. 6:12) Genesis 6:8-9 says that Noah found favor with God. He was "righteous, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God.", which is why, in the end, he and his family was saved. In Genesis 9:8-16, God creates the rainbow as a sign of His promise that a flood will never again destroy earth.
Remind me again- who made the earth and all the people on it?
And who did this, knowing EXACTLY what would happen to them, before it even happened?
The reality is this: your god made people, knowing he would be murdering them in the future: this is what omniscience means, it means you ALSO know the future EVEN BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
so - your god made people he KNEW he would murder.. genius hey?
but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
We only have to prove our own faith.... Besides tryin' to prove God is like defending a lion, homey It don't need your help Just unlock the cage! Let's move on....
It is very disturbing to read some of the comments. Listen to this song. Jesus did so much for us and he is the reason I am living right now. Some individuals do not believe in Jesus. I understand their point, and I pray that God finds a way to their hearts. With God, all things are possible, raising a man from the dead is possible for God. Reflecting on my life, I have seen many blessings that I thought were impossible. Give Jesus a chance. To all christians, please do live & act like Christ.
@TheFlowgeneration It should come as no surprise when the lost world acts lost but when those who are to be known by their love turn another away by their actions or words its sad.
truly a shame that you are all reacting this way. why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie? If reading the whole Bible is too much of a challenge, just start with the book of John in The New Testament. But basing your opinion on what you believe to be popular without actual information or educating yourself on the subject is ignorance. Also, people should be able to disagree without resorting to name-calling and insults.
"why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie?"
1. I did, I even read the parts where your god murders thousands of innocent children for the crimes of their parents. I also read the part where your all-loving god lets good people be tortured for eternity, simply because they didn't worship his ego. Why don't YOU read those parts?
2. do we really need to prove to you that humans aren't made directly from dirt in 1 day?
@TheRealityofNature You have a lot of good points. Here's the deal in a nutshell. Scripture is a compilation of human writings about God. This means that there are some legitimate theological statements revealed in these texts, but much of it is HEAVILY influenced by people's viewpoints/agendas. So, I take it as my responsibility as a Christian to discern what things are relevant to me today. Everybody picks and chooses. It's necessary. That's why Christianity is a revealed religion.
1. how you pick and choose to interpret your god still means you are asserting the existence of a god. it is still a catestrophic logical failure you choose to ignore.
2. essentially, you've said each individual has created their own "christian" religion - fine, but why then, do so many of you vote according to the assumption there is commonality?
aside from the immorality obvious in enforcing laws dictated by unprovable god, now you can't even prove they're robust!
truly a shame that you are all reacting this way. why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie? If reading the whole Bible is too much of a challenge, just start with the book of John in The New Testament. But basing your opinion on what you believe to be popular without actual information or educating yourself on the subject is ignorance. Also, people should be able to disagree without resorting to name-calling. just childish.
The bible was written by delusional people who were so primitive they thought the earth was FLAT. Just look up brettppalmer who has a series here on YouTube. Knowing they were that uneducated, you are going to believe their ridiculous claim about a cult leader turning into a zombie and returning from the dead? LOL, tell me another. A story that just so happens to rip off and rehash every Greek myth and god story before it. I guess the X-Men are real too if I imagine it enough...
You guys should really stop HARASSING chrristians, no matter what you beileve theres no way you can change our minds. we know whats true and whats false, and right now you people critisizing us is exactly what THE BIBLE says will happen, your ONLY PROVING THE WORDS YOU DESPISE TO BE CORRECT. we will be ridiculed, hated and judged. by people like you, and it will continue to happen, but you guys should quit it. its not NICE, NOT HUMANE, its IGNORANT, only immature individuals waste there time...
no, you don't know. you HOPE. to "know" you must have irrefutable evidence. At best, you have stories and events that you have chosen and interpreted in the context of your god, and not in the most sensible and reasonable way.
"exactly what THE BIBLE says will happen"
lol - of course, predicting the demise of an illogical philosophy is hardly rocket science.
someone wrote me in prived, you might call this love i call this Horror!
Jesus i pray to you forgive this person for he don't know what he is saying, I thank you that your love is so big that you will forgive this person! That your love that you gave that he might feel it in his heart.
We will not give any CONDEMNATION this world for God gave all the punishment to Jesus at the cross! The world need to see that Jesus won't condem them, but love them!
Honestly, if you dont believe, or care about Christ, WHY are you on this video in the first place, I mean as much as id like for you to listen the actual song, if your jsut gonna hate, why look up a song that has JESUS in its title?
"I do not know all the answers to your questions either that is why I believe"
whoa.. okay, so you dont understand why your god murders horribly innocent children, and that's why you believe?? do you know what a non sequitur is?
"and the more I learn the stronger my faith becomes"
actually, if you really did learn about the real world, the weaker your faith becomes. so you're not learning about the real world at all - what you're learning is how to ignore & contrive the bible.
"I do not know all the answers to your questions either that is why I believe"
whoa.. okay, so you dont understand why your god murders horribly innocent children, and that's why you believe?? do you know what a non sequitur is?
"and the more I learn the stronger my faith becomes"
actually, if you really did learn about the real world, the weaker your faith becomes. so you're not learning about the real world at all - what you're learning is how to ignore & contrive the bible.
quick question people. why all the fighting? it doesnt make anyone look good, and its somewhat pointless. it is making people upset over their beliefs. cool down, because for the christians in this, is this really the representation of Christ that you want to give the world? for the non-christians, just like christians wont necessarily change your mind by fighting with you, neither will you change theirs. thanks.
"just like christians wont necessarily change your mind by fighting with you, neither will you change theirs. thanks"
I dont know about others, but I'm here to present logical counterpoint to the inane abuse of logic, sense and morality imposed by christians.
but you're wrong - I CAN be convinced - all I have to see is intelligent, unrefutable proof. I'm open minded - which is more than we can say for most theists.
Hey buddy, medication loves you. It's tough for an imaginary zombie corpse to "see" anything since jesus is a fictional character from a fiction novel. At best if jesus was even a real person, the rotting skeleton of that cult leader is laying 6ft in the ground someone. Zeus on the other hands knows everything...... believe in the almighty Zeus or burn.
@mrbigblacknutz hahaha with all do respect bro, Jesus is a historical figure. How about you do some research. Oh and also the historical events which generated the sort of movement earliest Christianity had is one that can be traced back to the fact that Jesus indeed rose from the dead. Philosophically its very plausible.
@mrbigblacknutz Okkayy, this only confirms the general idea that atheists are bitter lonely rejects if you feel this way and clearly you do is your only purpose here to harass?
@mrbigblacknutz um first of all.. your user name is very inappropriate. anyway, i love learning about greek and roman mythology, but it is MYTHology for a reason. you have your rights, which means you can believe anything you want and know one should judge you. but they do anyway. they judge everyone. i promise it isnt just you. i am a christian and i do try to understand other peoples thoughts and opinions, but it is hard to do. Have a blessed day.
None but Jesus....yes, amen. Gee I tried my best to focus on the quietness and the stillness so I could see Jesus. But all the dancing, the waving of bodies and hands are such a distraction. Christ is supposed to be at the centre of this song, instead the dancing is on the foreground. Such a pity.
"instead the dancing is on the foreground. Such a pity. "
if you can't see him then you're obviously not a good enough christian.
either that, or there's no such thing, but since you're christian, you assert there is - therefore, the fact you can't see him is obviously because you're a bad christian.
wonders why people are always trying to disprove Jesus , OUr Lord and Saviour . and also why people harass hillsongs pages on youtube ... dont they have anything better to do with their lives , clearly not !
God Bless everyone , even those who choose not to open their hearts of faith to him
we're not trying to disprove jesus - probably jesus existed.
but was he a god? probably not.
why are we here? to provide a sane, intelligent counterpoint to the lies, fabrication and disingenuity intrinsic to your religion. there is NOTHING factual that supports the existence of your god - ergo, it's a fallacy - a LIE to claim that "you know" - you don't. really , you don't. if you did, you could prove it robustly and intelligently to anyone, regardless of who they are.
evolution is demonstrated and unrefuted. it is quite possibly, the most well-supported concept in science.
you'll find that even before you get past the first page of the bible, it is PACKED with crap that directly contradicts not only evolution, but pretty much anything else we know about how planets and life forms.
"I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." Charles Darwin
Science proves conclusively that Evolution is false. Love comes from God. Its not until their life is endangered, that an evolutionist begins to pray to God. There is nothing life has to offer but death once you take God out. Life becomes pointless and purposeless.
Yep,everybody's right: No evidence, no Jesus,then no God..but... who says there's no evidence?, what about us? ,the people which every single day can see miracles in our own lives. If you never tasted Jesus before that means he doesn't exist?, Last week I was trying to explain to my Connecticut born friend, the taste of a "chirimoya" a fruit from Peru. I said:" It's sweet, and soft and bla bla bla" but there's just no way to describe it right . You got to know Him, and you can tell
"what about us?" what about us? do you think the fact we exist is "proof" we were created? if so - what's your proof we are created at all - and then prove that the "creator" is who you think it is.
miracles happen to people unprepared, or unable to understand how nature works.
yes, I know it's wonderful to imagine there's a sky daddy. it takes a great deal of courage to follow your intelligence, and not pure mindlessness. More and more people are finding that courage.
Guys don't bother arguing with the elite thinking atheists who change the world with all their good... we are all stupid, ignorant, close minded drones who hate everyone we see and ruin everything we touch. But we know we're broken, and that's why we need a Savior. They on the other hand are perfect. That must be nice. Actually, I like the way GOD made me. haha
other people know they're broken and work to improve themselves on their own merits. Theists simply shrug your shoulders and say "yah, I'm all fucked up, ya know? All I need to do is pray to a myth, and I'll be a better person". Do you really think that the ACTUAL metric of a "good" person is how much you kowtow to an immoral god? How about being considerate of your fellow human? how about respecting their lives?
you guys must really have a low opinion of yourselves.
@TheRealityofNature I'm fairly confident I never said I was a "better person" because I believe in God. I just know I am loved. You called me the better person. So I would dare say, you have the low opinion of yourself. And btw, what does, "How about being considerate of your fellow human?" mean? Just bc I love Jesus means I hate humanity...? Seriously...you have no idea who I even am, yet you tell me to be considerate of my fellow human... ridiculous.
"I'm fairly confident I never said I was a "better person"
of course, you pray so your god will "forgive" your sins, which will make you "better" so you can get into heaven. without these prayers, you're destined for hell. so you didn't "say" it - but it's exactly WHY you pray, and WHY you confess. it's your opinion, not mine.
Morality is based on consideration, not what your god OR JC says. Why not stick with the tangible result, instead of invoking the intangible?
@TheRealityofNature Your missing the whole point of Christianity. I still hold that I am not a "better" person. I have been accepted the way I am. I'm not a Christian bc I'm perfect, just the opposite. One day, I hope you know what I'm talking about, because when you really really look into it, and have a considerate view, you may see this beautiful Love I'm talking about.
if you're not perfectly clean, you can't get into heaven.
again - I'll repeat it - you PRAY so you will be perfect. you beg forgivness so you can be perfect. without it, you'll be burning with me and all the wonderful people who contributed to humanity, but their only flaw was they didn't whoreship your god: mathama ghandi - being tortured. Albert einstein, carl saga - FAR better to humanity than the VAST majority of christians - all being tortured in front of your god.
other people know they're broken and work to improve themselves on their own merits. Theists simply shrug your shoulders and say "yah, I'm all fucked up, ya know? All I need to do is pray to a myth, and I'll be a better person". Do you really think that the ACTUAL metric of a "good" person is how much you kowtow to an immoral god? How about being considerate of your fellow human? how about respecting their lives?
you guys must really have a low opinion of yourselves.
Faith is something we hope for and certain of what we do not see. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. Hebrew 11:1-3
God does love us, he loved us so much he sent his only son to die for us so that our sins maybe forgiven. God is love despite what you have done he will forgive you because we are living in a period called grace and mercy. The bible does not recognise atheism. you know there is a God, and what you are doing according to {Romans 1:18-23} you are doing everything in your wickedness to suppress every truth you know about him and the reason why is because you do not want to submit to him.
before you claim I'm "wicked" in an objective sense, you first have to define "wicked" in an objective sense. You can't actually do this - your illogical, immoral judgement of me is founded only in your contrived myth, and nowhere else.
god sacrificed a disposable human vessel - big deal. to show how disposable it is, he resurrected it again. how, exactly, is sacrificing a body he made, and can re-make at whim, a "sacrifice"? making humans is a cakewalk for your god!
please would some one get me the words to this song.i am not picking up all the words.please i love this song.God bless.
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christSl4yer 1 week ago
Brother, I think you are very confused, because what you have said you believe and what I have said I believe are polar opposites of each other. You say Christ died for all, but he died for the elect (John 10:11). You say salvation is a matter of man's free will, but its of God's (Eph 1:5). You say salvation is about an opportunity, but it's about grace (Eph 2:8-9) You say all are sheep, but some are not (John 10:26). Do you want evangelical tradition and fanfare - or the word of God?
theearstohear 2 weeks ago
@theearstohear hi hun. jus interested by this conversation. nd this statement "he died for the elect (John 10:11). " r u saying that Jesus didn't die for the sins of the world,the worldy, the unrighteous? tho some are not sheep they are only not sheep because they are not in Jesus. "any man who be in Christ is a new creature." and yes it is true that salvation is by grace. but grace through faith and faith by hearing. any1 can be saved.
TSGdancer 5 days ago
@TSGdancer - Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11) which are those chosen before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4). They were all by nature children of wrath, even as others (Eph 2:3) who were not chosen by God to shed his mercy upon (Rom 9:18). People do not believe to BECOME sheep, they believe because they ARE sheep (John 10:27). One does not believe to get "in Christ", being "in Christ" is why one believes. (John 8:47). You say "any can", Christ said, "no man can..." (John 6:44).
theearstohear 5 days ago
@theearstohear in response to Eph 1:4 which i found very interesting and looked into:A Christian is only elect by virtue of Christ’s election, not on account of a pretemporal choice by God out of the mass of fallen humanity. It is at the point of conversion, i.e., a believer’s incorporation into the church, that election could be said to apply to any individual...
TSGdancer 4 days ago
@TSGdancer - The pretemporal election of people unto salvation is PRECISELY what is taught in Ephesians 1:4. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love." The choice in view here is pretemporal (before the foundation of the world), it is "in Christ", and is prior to either conversion or church membership since it is before the dawn of time. Your argument is not with me, it is with the bible.
theearstohear 4 days ago
@theearstohear no my argument isnt with the bible. you cant take things out of context. acknowledgin the full story of the bible is necesary in interpresting every part b/c they are not independant of each other. God has the power to save anyone who puts their trust in him. the elect are those who are saved. u are adopted into God's family when you are saved. john 3:16 (so that WHOEVER believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life[Jesus=the way,truth and life]
TSGdancer 4 days ago
@TSGdancer - I agree that you have to consider the whole bible - so no dispute there :) I think you will find that people believe because they ARE adopted, they do not believe to BECOME adopted. "And BECAUSE YE ARE SONS God hath sent forth the spirit of His son into your hearts crying Abba, Father." (Gal 4:6). That verse teaches that it is the fact that you already ARE a son that God regenerated you and gave you the faith to believe. That's a DEEP truth - if you enter into it. Blessings.
theearstohear 4 days ago
@theearstohear nice talking to you though..you definately put my faith to test and sharpened it. God bless
TSGdancer 4 days ago
@TSGdancer - Iron sharpens iron. Keep searching the scriptures. There's plenty of sheep food in there for the whole flock of God. :) May God bless your studies and your journey.
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TSGdancer 4 days ago
@theearstohear Paul refers to the elect as those who have already benefited from their election, but God views their condition prior to all that His activity will produce. The objects of election are unbelievers, who will become believers on account of their election. Eph2:3 is referring to all who hav not been saved including the saved when they were still of the world. in reference to rom 9:8 u can check this out if u want
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Romans 9: An Arminian/New Perspective Reading
TSGdancer 4 days ago
I LOVE YOU JESUS!!!FORGIVE ME FOR ALL OF MY SINS!YOU SAVED ME!
auroalcones 2 weeks ago
its up 2 us too work out our own salvation...study ur self to b aproved...Jesus said I did not come to condem ..Be like Jesus ..reach out to others..b like Jesus ..dont condem..I may not agree with Hillsong but they have to answer God not I or you but them..
TerrySiler11121967 2 weeks ago
@TerrySiler11121967 Do not use our Lord to make money...we as Christians oppose abortion and other things why not using our Lord's name in vain to make money? We have to speak out to guide others onto the right path. God bless.
redredredtoo 2 weeks ago
hillsong is nothing but a scam by Bobby and Brian to make money. REAL CHRISTIANS are disgusted by Hillsong...all the flashy musical shows will not justify their use of our LORD to make money SHAME SHAME SHAME
redredredtoo 2 weeks ago
@redredredtoo What do you consider a "REAL CHRISTIAN"? The last I check one must be born again according to the scriptures. So what is the qualifications of the "REAL CHRISTIAN" that you're referring to? Please explain.
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland Someone who does not turn our LORD JESUS CHRIST into a money making rock concert franchise like the Hillsongers do. Bobbi and Brian are just two scam artists, who channel most funds into their own pockets, and developing bigger better facilities to host concerts. THAT IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. SEE nobel prize winning mother Theresa.
redredredtoo 2 weeks ago
@redredredtoo May I ask where are you getting your information on the pastors being scam artists. Also there's a danger in comparing one person to another.
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland They have been investigated by the Uniting church cult experts...as well as a book written called "people in glass houses"....
redredredtoo 2 weeks ago
@redredredtoo I would suggest that you do your own investigation of the church. Just because someone claims to be an expert doesn't make them one. Some will call churches cult just because they don't fit in their cute little box. I have known people that said that about a church I attended years ago and when asked why they believe that, it was because they didn't believe exactly like them or the church was just too large it suppose to stay small. Even though thousand were added daily.
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland Jesus was a humble man...this rock concert Hillsong flashiness would not be approved by Him. He taught that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter the kingdom of Heaven....A humble life and self sacrifice is what is required of a Christian...but Hillsongers with their flashy concerts, and high income for preachers like Brian are exploiting God's work for profits! God bless you for your enquiring nature...
redredredtoo 2 weeks ago
The one thing missing from this service is a successful savior. Sadly this group proclaims a Christ that died for everyone and yet some are still not saved. If one preached the Christ of the bible to this crowd, a Christ that died for the sheep (John 10:11) and who actually saved them (Heb 10:14) by his own obedience (Rom 5:19), not by theirs, you would likely empty this auditorium of disciples as surely as when Jesus preached he was sovereign in salvation (John 6:65-66).
theearstohear 2 weeks ago
@theearstohear That's true, Jesus did die for everyone, but it's up to the individual to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. No one can force salvation on anyone, It is a choice, a free will choice.There are a lot of churches around the world that preach Jesus and still people refuse. Your statement about Jesus being preached maybe a presumptive. That unless of course you attend the services. This may have been a night of just Praise and Worship to our God!
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland If Jesus died for the sins of every human being on earth, and all are not saved, then Jesus Christ is an unsuccessful savior. Gospel truth is that Jesus died for the sheep (John 10:11) and not all are sheep (John 10:26). Salvation is not a matter of man's free will (Rom 9:16), it is a matter of God's free will (Eph 1:5). To one of a similar misunderstaning the Lord once said, "Ye worship ye know not what." (John 4:22)
theearstohear 2 weeks ago
@theearstohear If Jesus only died for the sheep, then how can one be saved. Since we weren't not sheep. We had to come to the knowledge of Jesus to accept what he did on the cross. The sheep he's referring to is the ones who believe in him. He had to died for all of humanity. Jesus had come to saved the lost. I believe I understand what you're trying to communicate but applying to the wrong area. God gives everyone the opportunity to be saved, some choose not to take it.
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland - You don't believe to become a sheep, you believe because you are a sheep (John 10:27), chosen from eternity past (Eph 1:4). "Acceptance" of Christ's work doesn't MAKE it effectual, it believes that it WAS effectual. The good shepherd looks for lost sheep, not goats. Salvation is not by "opportunity"; salvation is by grace. (Eph 2:8-9). Consider: If Christ died for the sheep (John 10:11) and some are not sheep (John 10:26) does it not follow that he did not die for them?
theearstohear 2 weeks ago
@theearstohear Based off what you're saying then, those that are lost can't be saved. How can they come to know Jesus if he did died for all who sinned? That's what salvation is about, in 2 Peter 3: 9 "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (NASB) Notice the Scriptures state that God doesn't want any to perish.There are only 2 that had roles for perishing Judas & the antichrist.
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@larrydholland - No, I'm saying that men are saved by what Christ did, not by what they do. "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE shall many be made righteous." (Rom 5:19) Faith is a fruit of salvation (Gal 5:22), not a prerequisite to salvation that effectuates the atonement. You need to look at who is addressed in II Pet 3:9 - "you" which is believers (II Peter 1:1). Search for "Office Theology 109 - II Pet 3:9" for a fuller explanation.
theearstohear 2 weeks ago
@theearstohear I understand fully what you're saying and couldn't agree more. It was definitely an honor to dialogue with a fellow believer. God Bless!
larrydholland 2 weeks ago
@kraqore79 Allah is FAKE. it's a parody of God!
CedricP91 3 weeks ago
Allah would love this song, he is a MASSIVE christian song fan, keep it up
kraqore79 4 weeks ago
@kraqore79 "None but Jesus" is the song. Not "None but Allah". :)
sparklegirl19 3 weeks ago
@sparklegirl19 Yeah, thats what the song is called, but Allah would love this song
kraqore79 3 weeks ago
none but jesus..Praise God!! How great You are..
johnalvin0819 4 weeks ago 2
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - john 3:16
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@TruthandSpirit26 the gospel is not part of the trinity. the trinity consists of three persons in one, God the father, God the son & God the Holy Spirit...
folabad 1 month ago
the gospel is not part of the trinity. the trinity consists of three persons in one, God the father, God the son & God the Holy Spirit...
folabad 1 month ago
@folabad Amen! Bible never teach Trinity or 3 persons in 1 Godhead, instead, it said that the Godhead dwells in Jesus Col. 2:8-10, God manifested Himself into flesh 1 Tim. 3:16. That's the perfect salvation, God is NOT 3 persons. He is numerically one who spawned His spirit in flesh (Son) to be a perfect sacrifice for us. YHWH/Father is Jesus in flesh! Isaiah 9:6
sparklegirl19 3 weeks ago 3
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Happy Holidays and god is not real.
Stumperx 1 month ago
@Stumperx He's Real! How would you know He's not?
gabrielhaleck 4 weeks ago
Great song, love that its written so acoustically. Fantastic mood and tone choice! :)
hugodevotion 1 month ago
He faced crucifixtion for us. Its a painful horrible death , this is howw much He loves us.
yahwehforeternity 2 months ago
whom have i Lord but u?
Help our delight be in u, not in the passing pleasures of this life which seem so great but are really empty compared to being in a relationship with you. "Delight in the Lord, and He will give u the desires of your heart" Psalms. "Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you.
26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever" Psalm 73. NONE BUT JESUS< none.
yahwehforeternity 2 months ago
@TheRealityofNature
Jesus is God manifesting himself in human form. They are one in the same and thus when you worship God you are worshiping Jesus and when you are worshiping Jesus you are worshiping Christ.
skarda11 2 months ago
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"Jesus is God manifesting himself in human form"
ah yes.. I understand now.. so - your god had himself born to a virgin, so he could have himself crucified and re-write some of the laws he made?
Maybe I'm being naive here, but could you explain why it's in any way a "sacrifice" or even "difficult" for a god to have his human manifestation "killed" - what does that do to the god - anything at all? why is it a "sacrifice"?
Please explain - really, please do.
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
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I'm looking to find funding for a Christian Short Film. If anyone can help me PLEASE message me!!
TheConferenceRoomTV 2 months ago
NONE BUT JESUS!!!!!
susanwu7088 2 months ago
@susanwu7088
none but jesus? remind me, what's the FIRST commandment?
ah yes, none but GOD.. whoops!, off to an eternity of punishment for YOU!
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
beautiful song, none but Jesus.
TheAmbivalency 2 months ago
FYI, noreality is a youtube atheist troll that goes from Christian video to video just to say silly things and insult us. It is how he chooses to live his life. He is motivated not by science, reason, or logic - but purely emotion and bigotry toward all things Christian.
Freak4Life30 2 months ago
@Freak4Life30
lol - as predicted, freak.
well done.
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
@TheRealityofbeingatroll lol - as predicted from you.
well done, lol
Freak4Life30 2 months ago
I thought Christians didn't believe in dance???
bandala06 2 months ago
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HILLSONG CHURCH??? BE SERIOUS
AS LONG AS THIS IS A GATHERING TO SING AND PRAISE THE LORD THIS IS OK BUT WHEN YOU CALL IT THE CHURCH WITH ORDINARY PEOPLE AS PRIESTS YOU GO IN WRONG DIRECTION WITHOUT SACRAMENTS, PENANCE, EUCHARIST AND THE TRUTH!!!
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JezusSlave 2 months ago
God died for us. He didn't ask for all of us to love him, but it doesn't mean that we should disrespect him and say hurtful things about him. Don't make him die in vain. He gave us freewill, use that free will to do good, not spend time convincing others that God isn't real.
shineelovemealways 2 months ago
@shineelovemealways
"God died for us"
I see, so you imagine your god no longer exists or what?
of course you don't - you beleive your god is alive - which makes your first point a lie.
so which is it? did your god die, or not?
do you actually have any idea of the meanings of the words you're using?
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
@TheRealityofNature yet another video you trolled your way into
Freak4Life30 2 months ago
@Freak4Life30
looks like I have my own google stalker - yet you still can't do your basic homework?
lol - I'll respond to you when you're back in your proper kennel theist, I'll simply let you make a fool of yourself on your own, on any other pages.
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
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@TheRealityofNature You spend all your time trolling youtube Christian videos, you live a rather pathetic existance.
Freak4Life30 2 months ago
go and believe!!! when you think the hell is not there, that's not true!!!! the hell is there! when you not believe you go to hell! it's terrible! but when you believe, you go to God, and He loves You! He gives You all the love that You need! and i say with all my heart: I BELIEVE! Do you agree? i pray for the people who not believe!
lottelovelike 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Hillsong
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"go and believe!!! when you think the hell is not there, that's not true!!!! the hell is there! when you not believe you go to hell! it's terrible! but when you believe, you go to God, and He loves You!"
and ipso facto - if we don't believe, we go to hell... but apparently your god still loves us?
so - he loves us, but not enough to save us from hell right? What, exactly, does that accomplish?
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
this song is just so great and so meaningful..
oneway436 2 months ago in playlist Hill song-I'll stand with arms high and heart abandoned
this song lifts my spirt to much...
amacandi1 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Hillsong
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All my delight is in you LORD forevermore..
rymndpr 2 months ago
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rymndpr 2 months ago
There is no one else but Jesus. John 14. That's who i choose to believe. Thanks for the eloquent and beautiful song that expresses not only scriptures but also the experience of mine and millions across so many disparate cultures who have placed their trust in this Jesus.
I live to bring Him praise.
Gavman2508 2 months ago
@Gavman2508
"There is no one else but Jesus"
Remind me.. what is the first commandment again?
TheRealityofNature 2 months ago
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@TheRealityofNature LOve your God with all your heart ;)
WeniMausi 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Hillsong
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Excelent music
Syam25udi 3 months ago
NO KING BUT KING JESUS!!!
MDmendez86 3 months ago
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God bless you all. Suffering and Struggles, Doubt about God, WILL DEFINITELY COME. It's an axiom. You know why that happens? Because we THINK instead of BELIEVING. We're short of faith. Believing is hard and full of struggles like Jesus way of life. That's all I had to say. Just keep praying guys, never give up and whatever you ask when you pray, you'll get it if God wants it so. If it doesn't happen, then it better be that way. I'm 17 years old orthodox boy and my goal is to become a priest.
Y2JCodes 3 months ago
I absolutely love this song! AND Jesus! :) <3
TheMaster375 3 months ago
There is no one else like HIM...
queenani100 3 months ago
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God is one, not 3000 nor 8 nor 3(nity)
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ModernDayBeast 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature wait i'm confused. you say God is a myth yet you are mad at him for killing innocent people therefore claiming you DO in fact believe God is real. otherwise why argue or get upset at something that doesn't exist? God has rules for His children just as each person has rules for their homes. if you tell someone don't steal yet they do it, consequences are taken into action. we've just developed kinder means of punishment over many years.
smashleyo123 3 months ago
@smashleyo123
ah, I see your problem; you're not thinking!
Of course I don't believe your god - my points are irrelevant to me, but relevant to you.
"just as each person has rules for their homes"
erm, you torture your kids for eternity if they watch too much tv? really?
"we''ve just developed kinder means of punishment over many years"
um.. hmm, so .. you're acknowledging your god is unkind? well done! My heartiest congratulations! - you've just recognised your god is IMMORAL!!
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature i can't help but laugh at how ridiculous you make yourself sound. your points aren't relevant to anyone you just like looking for arguments to prove how smart you are when in fact you aren't as smart as you think. & i don't have kids but if i did i wouldn't torture them though others in the world DO torture their kids & it happens, christian or not. & my God is kinder than you could ever be.can't claim God is immoral without fact you're just
smashleyo123 3 months ago
@smashleyo123
erm. you claimed god's punishment for his rules are "just as each person has rules for their homes". When I pointed out that god's punishment is eternal torture, you scurried to confess that in fact, eternal torture to children is something that only immoral people do.
Well done, you've acknowledged your god's "punishment" is immoral.
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature spitting out words. keep your opinions to yourself. stop trying to post on a video to get attention when in fact you make no sense of yourself. let those of us who believe in the truth that IS God enjoy it without having immature people like yourself try and disprove what has already been proven. i am not bashing your silly theories so don't bash our truth.
thank you.
smashleyo123 3 months ago
@smashleyo123
"i am not bashing your silly theories so don't bash our truth."
Well you'd have problems if you did, but the reason you're not, is because you're simply ignorant of them - even so, you did "bash" my "silly" theories. It's amusing to me that so many theists declare factually supported theories about which they know absolutely nothing, to be "silly".
your catch-cry is: "I have no idea what you're talking about... but it's wrong".
even a child can see how stupid that is.
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature
stop fighting.. geesh..
cevops18 3 months ago
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Agreed. I'll tell you what: how about nobody ever mentions a god ever again. Agreed?
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
oh yer this is the biggest load of shit ive ever seen dumb fucken people believe shit like this.
tunastrike11 3 months ago
@tunastrike11 you are sad! Limited time on this earth, repent and ask God to forgive you. He loves you dearly.
ayalee10 3 months ago
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@ayalee10
"He loves you dearly"
and if you don't love him back, he'll let you burn in unspeakable suffering, for eternity.
but he loves you dearly.
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
remarkable,
spirit and continue to serve God
tirsasekeon 3 months ago
Romans 14:11 says "For It Is Written: As I Live, Says The Lord, EVERY Knee Will BOW To ME And EVERY Tongue WIll GIve Praise To GOD" as it goes on in Verse 12 it says " So Then, Each Of Us Will Give An Account Of Himself To God"
HeyDanielHey 3 months ago
Why do people come on to hate D:
Respect each other! Realize everyone faces struggles, and we all look for comfort and love.
Love God, love people. It's not that hard :3 ][and it feels better c; ][
CMrandom19 3 months ago 41
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"Why do people come on to hate D:"
good question! why don't you ask your god? afterall, he's guilty of the most horrible massacres of all time: murdering thousands of innocent children in the floods of genesis, the burnings of the cities of the plains - drowning and burning innocent people alive - for the crimes of their parents.
So yeah, good question - why does your god hate innocent people? why ask him for me, then get back to me - he's stopped answering my questions!
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature Correction: flood. There was only one flood. And "innocent children" is a bit general. A child is quite capable of doing wrong, I assure you. Palestinian Muslim children are taught to hate their Jewish neighbors. As a result, they grow up hating Jews, despite never really understanding why. In fact, they (the children) even go so far as to give up their lives as suicide bombers. They grow up with the same beliefs and faith as the people behind the 9/11 incident.
TheMaster375 3 months ago
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@TheMaster375
"A child is quite capable of doing wrong"
lol - now THAT is a disturbing assertion from you. A new born is capabile of sinning?
a toddler is capable of contravening your god's laws?
a sinning child deserves to be tortured for eternity?
when you write things, guy, make sure you think about them furst.
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature Burning and drowning of innocent people alive? Yes, burned and drowned. Although the Bible clearly states that these people were not "innocent". In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 19:4 says that all the men of the cities, both YOUNG AND OLD, gathered around the house of Lot and asked for the 2 men (the angels) to be brought out so they could have sex with them. That's not exactly "innocent".
TheMaster375 3 months ago
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"Although the Bible clearly states that these people were not "innocent". In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah"
lol - ALL the cities of the plains were burned to the ground, and you're going to tell me there was not a single toddler in ANY of the cities?
you're not thinking again. when you read your bible, you should actually think about the words, think about the reality. If you don't, then you're simply lying to yourself.. but we knew that.
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature In Genesis 18, you see that Abraham intervened and begged God to spare Sodom. God actually agreed that if He found just 10 righteous people out of the hundreds or thousands of people residing there, He would spare them. (According to archeological findings, Sodom was estimated to be home to around 600-1200 people.) That seems like a pretty good deal to me: 10 people out of, say, 800. But there were only 4. (Lot's two son-in-laws didn't buy the "fire and brimstone" thing.)
TheMaster375 3 months ago
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"actually agreed that if He found just 10 righteous people"
yeap, so your god fails at basic demographics too.
tell me, how long do you think a city would last for, if there are absolutley no children?
a simple answer: it will last about 50 years, then it will die.
the cities of the plains were ANCIENT, therefore, children existed, therefore your god lied.
math sucks when you use it, hey?
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature Regarding the Flood, Genesis 6:11-12 says specifically that the ENTIRE earth was corrupt. ("...for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways." - Gen. 6:12) Genesis 6:8-9 says that Noah found favor with God. He was "righteous, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God.", which is why, in the end, he and his family was saved. In Genesis 9:8-16, God creates the rainbow as a sign of His promise that a flood will never again destroy earth.
TheMaster375 3 months ago
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"that the ENTIRE earth was corrupt"
yup.
Remind me again- who made the earth and all the people on it?
And who did this, knowing EXACTLY what would happen to them, before it even happened?
The reality is this: your god made people, knowing he would be murdering them in the future: this is what omniscience means, it means you ALSO know the future EVEN BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
so - your god made people he KNEW he would murder.. genius hey?
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
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My question was, 'Why do people come on to hate,' not 'why does your god hate innocent people' Ha XD
CMrandom19 3 weeks ago
but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
(1 Peter 3:15 ESV)
TheFCBarcelonalover 4 months ago 2
We only have to prove our own faith.... Besides tryin' to prove God is like defending a lion, homey It don't need your help Just unlock the cage! Let's move on....
TheFCBarcelonalover 4 months ago 2
It is very disturbing to read some of the comments. Listen to this song. Jesus did so much for us and he is the reason I am living right now. Some individuals do not believe in Jesus. I understand their point, and I pray that God finds a way to their hearts. With God, all things are possible, raising a man from the dead is possible for God. Reflecting on my life, I have seen many blessings that I thought were impossible. Give Jesus a chance. To all christians, please do live & act like Christ.
spaceboie 4 months ago 31
@spaceboie God bless ya bro
Y2JCodes 3 months ago
@spaceboie
ELOHIM HAND ON THE WORLD ! M0CHIAH !
elohism 3 months ago
@TheFlowgeneration It should come as no surprise when the lost world acts lost but when those who are to be known by their love turn another away by their actions or words its sad.
jorsak 4 months ago in playlist Morning Worship
This is such a beautiful song... There's no one else for me, none but Jesus.
CandySahs2 4 months ago 2
truly a shame that you are all reacting this way. why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie? If reading the whole Bible is too much of a challenge, just start with the book of John in The New Testament. But basing your opinion on what you believe to be popular without actual information or educating yourself on the subject is ignorance. Also, people should be able to disagree without resorting to name-calling and insults.
Gio4Christ 4 months ago
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@Gio4Christ
I've read the entire bible - it's a horror.
The behaviour of your god, particularly in the OT, is utterly reprehensible.
"But basing your opinion on what you believe to be popular without actual information or educating yourself on the subject is ignorance"
entirely agree - I assume you know then, why faith is, by definition, utterly illogical, and why the christian religion is bigoted and hypocritical?
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
@Gio4Christ
"why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie?"
1. I did, I even read the parts where your god murders thousands of innocent children for the crimes of their parents. I also read the part where your all-loving god lets good people be tortured for eternity, simply because they didn't worship his ego. Why don't YOU read those parts?
2. do we really need to prove to you that humans aren't made directly from dirt in 1 day?
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@TheRealityofNature You have a lot of good points. Here's the deal in a nutshell. Scripture is a compilation of human writings about God. This means that there are some legitimate theological statements revealed in these texts, but much of it is HEAVILY influenced by people's viewpoints/agendas. So, I take it as my responsibility as a Christian to discern what things are relevant to me today. Everybody picks and chooses. It's necessary. That's why Christianity is a revealed religion.
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TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
@gahjah121
Two problems:
1. how you pick and choose to interpret your god still means you are asserting the existence of a god. it is still a catestrophic logical failure you choose to ignore.
2. essentially, you've said each individual has created their own "christian" religion - fine, but why then, do so many of you vote according to the assumption there is commonality?
aside from the immorality obvious in enforcing laws dictated by unprovable god, now you can't even prove they're robust!
TheRealityofNature 3 months ago
truly a shame that you are all reacting this way. why not read the Bible and try to prove that it is all false then if you are so convinced it is all a lie? If reading the whole Bible is too much of a challenge, just start with the book of John in The New Testament. But basing your opinion on what you believe to be popular without actual information or educating yourself on the subject is ignorance. Also, people should be able to disagree without resorting to name-calling. just childish.
Gio4Christ 4 months ago
The bible was written by delusional people who were so primitive they thought the earth was FLAT. Just look up brettppalmer who has a series here on YouTube. Knowing they were that uneducated, you are going to believe their ridiculous claim about a cult leader turning into a zombie and returning from the dead? LOL, tell me another. A story that just so happens to rip off and rehash every Greek myth and god story before it. I guess the X-Men are real too if I imagine it enough...
CockSuckingChrist 4 months ago 2
You guys should really stop HARASSING chrristians, no matter what you beileve theres no way you can change our minds. we know whats true and whats false, and right now you people critisizing us is exactly what THE BIBLE says will happen, your ONLY PROVING THE WORDS YOU DESPISE TO BE CORRECT. we will be ridiculed, hated and judged. by people like you, and it will continue to happen, but you guys should quit it. its not NICE, NOT HUMANE, its IGNORANT, only immature individuals waste there time...
sthbrandon 4 months ago
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@sthbrandon
I'm not trying to change your minds.
"we know whats true .."
no, you don't know. you HOPE. to "know" you must have irrefutable evidence. At best, you have stories and events that you have chosen and interpreted in the context of your god, and not in the most sensible and reasonable way.
"exactly what THE BIBLE says will happen"
lol - of course, predicting the demise of an illogical philosophy is hardly rocket science.
"NOT HUMANE"
and your god IS "nice" and "humane"?????
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
someone wrote me in prived, you might call this love i call this Horror!
Jesus i pray to you forgive this person for he don't know what he is saying, I thank you that your love is so big that you will forgive this person! That your love that you gave that he might feel it in his heart.
We will not give any CONDEMNATION this world for God gave all the punishment to Jesus at the cross! The world need to see that Jesus won't condem them, but love them!
rubensprong 4 months ago
Honestly, if you dont believe, or care about Christ, WHY are you on this video in the first place, I mean as much as id like for you to listen the actual song, if your jsut gonna hate, why look up a song that has JESUS in its title?
fireone22 4 months ago 2
@TheRealityofNature your arguments just show what you do not know about God.
I do not know all the answers to your questions either that is why I believe and the more I learn the stronger my faith becomes
God Bless you
tevitatalakai 4 months ago
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"I do not know all the answers to your questions either that is why I believe"
whoa.. okay, so you dont understand why your god murders horribly innocent children, and that's why you believe?? do you know what a non sequitur is?
"and the more I learn the stronger my faith becomes"
actually, if you really did learn about the real world, the weaker your faith becomes. so you're not learning about the real world at all - what you're learning is how to ignore & contrive the bible.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
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@tevitatalakai
"I do not know all the answers to your questions either that is why I believe"
whoa.. okay, so you dont understand why your god murders horribly innocent children, and that's why you believe?? do you know what a non sequitur is?
"and the more I learn the stronger my faith becomes"
actually, if you really did learn about the real world, the weaker your faith becomes. so you're not learning about the real world at all - what you're learning is how to ignore & contrive the bible.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
quick question people. why all the fighting? it doesnt make anyone look good, and its somewhat pointless. it is making people upset over their beliefs. cool down, because for the christians in this, is this really the representation of Christ that you want to give the world? for the non-christians, just like christians wont necessarily change your mind by fighting with you, neither will you change theirs. thanks.
chilatz1 4 months ago in playlist hillsong
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"just like christians wont necessarily change your mind by fighting with you, neither will you change theirs. thanks"
I dont know about others, but I'm here to present logical counterpoint to the inane abuse of logic, sense and morality imposed by christians.
but you're wrong - I CAN be convinced - all I have to see is intelligent, unrefutable proof. I'm open minded - which is more than we can say for most theists.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
Hey buddy, medication loves you. It's tough for an imaginary zombie corpse to "see" anything since jesus is a fictional character from a fiction novel. At best if jesus was even a real person, the rotting skeleton of that cult leader is laying 6ft in the ground someone. Zeus on the other hands knows everything...... believe in the almighty Zeus or burn.
mrbigblacknutz 4 months ago
@mrbigblacknutz hahaha with all do respect bro, Jesus is a historical figure. How about you do some research. Oh and also the historical events which generated the sort of movement earliest Christianity had is one that can be traced back to the fact that Jesus indeed rose from the dead. Philosophically its very plausible.
SDAboy21 4 months ago
@mrbigblacknutz Okkayy, this only confirms the general idea that atheists are bitter lonely rejects if you feel this way and clearly you do is your only purpose here to harass?
CapricousCapricorn1 4 months ago
@mrbigblacknutz um first of all.. your user name is very inappropriate. anyway, i love learning about greek and roman mythology, but it is MYTHology for a reason. you have your rights, which means you can believe anything you want and know one should judge you. but they do anyway. they judge everyone. i promise it isnt just you. i am a christian and i do try to understand other peoples thoughts and opinions, but it is hard to do. Have a blessed day.
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falconeyrie 4 months ago
Religious superstition invented by iron age peasants, no thanks.
Stumperx 4 months ago 3
None but Jesus....yes, amen. Gee I tried my best to focus on the quietness and the stillness so I could see Jesus. But all the dancing, the waving of bodies and hands are such a distraction. Christ is supposed to be at the centre of this song, instead the dancing is on the foreground. Such a pity.
enakmakan 4 months ago
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"instead the dancing is on the foreground. Such a pity. "
if you can't see him then you're obviously not a good enough christian.
either that, or there's no such thing, but since you're christian, you assert there is - therefore, the fact you can't see him is obviously because you're a bad christian.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
You should listen to this dubstep remix version... It's soooo dirty
nichols0vision 4 months ago
wonders why people are always trying to disprove Jesus , OUr Lord and Saviour . and also why people harass hillsongs pages on youtube ... dont they have anything better to do with their lives , clearly not !
God Bless everyone , even those who choose not to open their hearts of faith to him
madamegaga2010 4 months ago
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@madamegaga2010
we're not trying to disprove jesus - probably jesus existed.
but was he a god? probably not.
why are we here? to provide a sane, intelligent counterpoint to the lies, fabrication and disingenuity intrinsic to your religion. there is NOTHING factual that supports the existence of your god - ergo, it's a fallacy - a LIE to claim that "you know" - you don't. really , you don't. if you did, you could prove it robustly and intelligently to anyone, regardless of who they are.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
Stumperx: You keep stating, "evolution proves" such and such, but you are not actually explaining how evolution proved this or that. Please explain.
jjpickupyourcross 4 months ago
@jjpickupyourcross
evolution is demonstrated and unrefuted. it is quite possibly, the most well-supported concept in science.
you'll find that even before you get past the first page of the bible, it is PACKED with crap that directly contradicts not only evolution, but pretty much anything else we know about how planets and life forms.
THAT is what stumperx was talking about.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
@TheRealityofNature I AM PRAYING GOD WILL SAVE YOU....GOD IS LOVE AND THE CREATOR OF ALL !! DEAL WITH IT..REPENT AND BE SAVED THROUGH JESUS...
SuperJOHNWELLER 4 months ago
Stumperx your a fuckin dumbass just stfu
MrMoonlitrock 4 months ago
"For we ourselves also were foolish, decieved, serving lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hatelful, and hating one another.
But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.
Jude 3:3-5
Jewellgq 4 months ago
"I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." Charles Darwin
Science proves conclusively that Evolution is false. Love comes from God. Its not until their life is endangered, that an evolutionist begins to pray to God. There is nothing life has to offer but death once you take God out. Life becomes pointless and purposeless.
Jewellgq 4 months ago
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"Science proves conclusively that Evolution is false"
strange, because out of all the theories produced by science, evolution is perhaps one of the most well supported.
go find out the facts before you write your uninformed rot next time, okay?
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
Hmm... I wonder why all of you are arguing why God doesn't exist. Why are you watching this video in the first place? Just saying...
JtotheESS3 4 months ago
@JtotheESS3 AGREED! theres billions of videos on youtube why watch this if u dont believe in God? just to start an argument?
TheTamlyn96 4 months ago in playlist hillsong
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"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Matthew 5:44
be strong children of God and always, always, always LOVE. Do not judge, but just ACCEPT and LOVE.
justinnminn15 4 months ago in playlist Christian 3
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yeah man :) !
MrEggplantation 4 months ago
Yep,everybody's right: No evidence, no Jesus,then no God..but... who says there's no evidence?, what about us? ,the people which every single day can see miracles in our own lives. If you never tasted Jesus before that means he doesn't exist?, Last week I was trying to explain to my Connecticut born friend, the taste of a "chirimoya" a fruit from Peru. I said:" It's sweet, and soft and bla bla bla" but there's just no way to describe it right . You got to know Him, and you can tell
halcon639103 4 months ago
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"what about us?" what about us? do you think the fact we exist is "proof" we were created? if so - what's your proof we are created at all - and then prove that the "creator" is who you think it is.
miracles happen to people unprepared, or unable to understand how nature works.
yes, I know it's wonderful to imagine there's a sky daddy. it takes a great deal of courage to follow your intelligence, and not pure mindlessness. More and more people are finding that courage.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
Guys please stop arguing and listen to the music, and to God.
God Bless you all.
kps1215 4 months ago
Guys don't bother arguing with the elite thinking atheists who change the world with all their good... we are all stupid, ignorant, close minded drones who hate everyone we see and ruin everything we touch. But we know we're broken, and that's why we need a Savior. They on the other hand are perfect. That must be nice. Actually, I like the way GOD made me. haha
MrSquiggily 4 months ago
@MrSquiggily
other people know they're broken and work to improve themselves on their own merits. Theists simply shrug your shoulders and say "yah, I'm all fucked up, ya know? All I need to do is pray to a myth, and I'll be a better person". Do you really think that the ACTUAL metric of a "good" person is how much you kowtow to an immoral god? How about being considerate of your fellow human? how about respecting their lives?
you guys must really have a low opinion of yourselves.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
@TheRealityofNature I'm fairly confident I never said I was a "better person" because I believe in God. I just know I am loved. You called me the better person. So I would dare say, you have the low opinion of yourself. And btw, what does, "How about being considerate of your fellow human?" mean? Just bc I love Jesus means I hate humanity...? Seriously...you have no idea who I even am, yet you tell me to be considerate of my fellow human... ridiculous.
MrSquiggily 4 months ago
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"I'm fairly confident I never said I was a "better person"
of course, you pray so your god will "forgive" your sins, which will make you "better" so you can get into heaven. without these prayers, you're destined for hell. so you didn't "say" it - but it's exactly WHY you pray, and WHY you confess. it's your opinion, not mine.
Morality is based on consideration, not what your god OR JC says. Why not stick with the tangible result, instead of invoking the intangible?
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
@TheRealityofNature Your missing the whole point of Christianity. I still hold that I am not a "better" person. I have been accepted the way I am. I'm not a Christian bc I'm perfect, just the opposite. One day, I hope you know what I'm talking about, because when you really really look into it, and have a considerate view, you may see this beautiful Love I'm talking about.
MrSquiggily 4 months ago 2
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if you're not perfectly clean, you can't get into heaven.
again - I'll repeat it - you PRAY so you will be perfect. you beg forgivness so you can be perfect. without it, you'll be burning with me and all the wonderful people who contributed to humanity, but their only flaw was they didn't whoreship your god: mathama ghandi - being tortured. Albert einstein, carl saga - FAR better to humanity than the VAST majority of christians - all being tortured in front of your god.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
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@MrSquiggily
other people know they're broken and work to improve themselves on their own merits. Theists simply shrug your shoulders and say "yah, I'm all fucked up, ya know? All I need to do is pray to a myth, and I'll be a better person". Do you really think that the ACTUAL metric of a "good" person is how much you kowtow to an immoral god? How about being considerate of your fellow human? how about respecting their lives?
you guys must really have a low opinion of yourselves.
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago
Faith is something we hope for and certain of what we do not see. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. Hebrew 11:1-3
AllyanaDeveraux 4 months ago
God loves and beleives in you even if you dont believe in him. He loves you so much. ;)
aznmatt301 4 months ago
God does love us, he loved us so much he sent his only son to die for us so that our sins maybe forgiven. God is love despite what you have done he will forgive you because we are living in a period called grace and mercy. The bible does not recognise atheism. you know there is a God, and what you are doing according to {Romans 1:18-23} you are doing everything in your wickedness to suppress every truth you know about him and the reason why is because you do not want to submit to him.
Alonso2005 4 months ago
@Alonso2005
before you claim I'm "wicked" in an objective sense, you first have to define "wicked" in an objective sense. You can't actually do this - your illogical, immoral judgement of me is founded only in your contrived myth, and nowhere else.
god sacrificed a disposable human vessel - big deal. to show how disposable it is, he resurrected it again. how, exactly, is sacrificing a body he made, and can re-make at whim, a "sacrifice"? making humans is a cakewalk for your god!
TheRealityofNature 4 months ago