Also notice,, also notice, also notice man enough with the also notice,this guy was boring he sounded like my old science teacher. This whole video was really boring and yes like all of you out their in inter net land we all seen and heard it before.....
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I see nothing here to confirm or deny a second shot. What about the far more simple idea that after the wound, the brain matter exited leaving a void that the scalp collapsed into?
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According to the unclassifield released LBJ tapes (recorded telephone calls between him and hoover) there were THREE bullets that struck. Two hit the president and one hit the governor. This is before the Warren commission and HOOVER already knew what happened. He had ballistics run on all bullets. His best men (Hoover's) were at the autopsy. The warren commission came up with that crazy one bullet thing! Search for the Hoover and LBJ tapes. Most of LJB's phone recording have been released.
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the 2nd shot couldnt have come from the front..A) becuase its at a high angle so unless the govenor (who was shot by the first round in the back) pulled a gun and jackie didnt notice it. and B) one thing anyone who owns a fire arm will tell you is that an entry wound is clean other then a whole it looks like nothing happen. when you look at the back of a target however...the back is "exploded" or spread out. also take into account the shooter was a sniper for the military..theyre highly trained
I had thanksgiving dinner, in 1979, with a high-ranking FBI man who - according to his daughter - was friends with J. Edgar Hoover. I worked with his daughter and she had invited me to dinner. Myself and his son - a dentist - were having drinks in his den while the ladies cooked. Somehow Kennedy came up and they guy launched into a vicious tirade - said that the killing of the Kennedy's was a high point for the bureau. He called him a "whoremonger", etc. I was astounded - it was surreal.
No ... the bullet entered the left back and blew out the front ... the first bullet came in the back and took out the guy in front ... one marksman - 2 shots ...and the 'alleged' shooter was conviently removed ... so ... no other suspects? ...
We'll most likely never know. I watched "JFK" with Kevin Cosner, great movie and educated me on alot of the possibilites of what happened. The most interesting point made is that Oswald would not be able to get off the shots in time and still make it out of the book depository. Eye witnesses say that there may have been another shooter by the grassy nole. Which would make sense. But Idk. Was way before my time.
@Brad1112223 i watched a show on history channel and it said the grassy nole would be improbebole (spelt that wrong lol) because to get a shot the shooter would have to be miles back and be about 5 feet in the air IDK if wats hes saying is true but thats what i know
If you hating on this person talking about the assassination, then shut up and go look for another video better than this. He did nothing wrong talking about the assassination and how it was 2 shots not 1.
A frangible, or exploding, bullet was discharged from forward and to the right towards JFK. It entered JFK's head near the right temple, and exploded along the right side of JFK's head from the front towards the rear. This easily explains the partially exploded proturbances which appear along the right side of JFK's head in the course of the Zapruder footage and also in the morgue and autopsy photos.[ Thus that bullet was not fired by Oswald nor was it a conventional bullet ].
dude, shut the fuck up, go back to work at Blockbuster, save up some cash and move out of your mom's basement.... and maybe loose your virginity.... what? I'm way off? That isnt you at all???? then fuckin act like it
the shock wave that is what turns everything to mush from a second round would of completely taken the presidents head clean off. and if you are stating that the shot be taken from the statue (grassy knoll) then his wife would of taken the round. i've been shooting for long enough to know that the elevated shot would of placed a down angle on the round.. it wouldn't of exited high.. sorry but this man knows nothing of ballistics.. ooo and the velocity tail arrives usually 100 sec + after
now i have been very fascinated by this event for many many years, i don't have any feelings with regards to speculation but work solely on video footage. now gents let me ask you all something and if you are unsure look at my hunting pics for proof, you say this man received TWO shot to the head within a half sec of each other and yet he still had a head ?? the amount of damage you see here is from no way two rounds gents... the headshot round is a single round am afraid.
When JFKs limousine emerged from behind the street sign JFK was already reaching up around his throat area. That's shot number one, from behind. The second shot is from the front and we see skull exposed as well as blood and brain matter being forcefully scattered. Then the third shot occurs a half second later, causing even more damage to the head of JFK.
He definitely "slumped forward" when Oswald shot him from behind. It's so obvious, You can also see the magic bullet pause in mid air as well. Mossads new motto is "We get all our money from the U.S. taxpayer, so we'll kill who we want for a small fee"
This is interesting, but if you look at the video of the shooting you will see that there is no splatter at all associated with a second shot from the front. It is obvious that the final event is caused by just one shot and the damage described here was done with that shot and revealed by the head jerking back, almost certainly as a result of a sudden acceleration of the car, or perhaps some muscular spasm. If a second shot hit, there would be some kind of splatter.
Between the second and third shots, for about 4 seconds LHO reloaded his rifle again, finds the moving target is shooting back. Unable to make these moves and hit a target of just over 15 cm in size and 90 meters 25kmp / h movement. This procedure is impossible.
Basically the CIA did kill him but this is why. The president after him ordered a sniper to assassinate him. It was all cause and effect, cause: John f kennedy won the election and was what seemed as a better president than the next. effect: the cia was secretly paid to kill john f kennedy. It was all because of jealousy, fame and money. Suggested movie: 9/11 loose change. These things happen all the time and what was seemingly unexpected now makes sense.
@1:39 the height of his head hasnt shrunk, its the angle that we are looking at his head from that makes it appear that way, he is leaning over towards the left. His left shoulder is now at a lower angle than his right and he is leaning to the left. His head is tilted away from the camera.
Mossad's former motto was: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה wich is hebrew for "For by wise guidance you can wage your war". "By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War." is a translation by Ostrovsky. After Ostrovsky's translation, Mossad changed their motto to באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where there is no guidance, a nation falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety."
Victor Ostrovsky "the most treacherous Jew in modern Jewish history" says the Mossads Motto is 'BY WAY OF DECEPTION, THOU SHALL DO War' So Im going to go with that.
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i still wondering that some poeple still believe that oswald has something to do with this...kennedy was shoot from the right and from the front, tell me how someone can do this when hes is somewere behind this scene in a house?
Watch Zapruder film jfk put something in his mouth frame 227 (probably cyanide) he is already dead as she puts her hand on his arm before he gets shot, also at frame 227 the man sitting directly in front of jfk is seen tucking or reaching under his RIGHT arm and turning probably to line up the shot or feel.
It looks as tho they all acted on some que like if the sign board at frame 214 was supposed to block the setup.
WATCH ANY FOOTAGE HE IS ALREADY DEAD BEFORE SHOT !
all of u who think that lee oswald fired the head-shot, then yr so right....the bullet shot past the car frm behind and richoeted off the freeway overpass and then hit jfk in the head, wow now that's a magic bullet...u freakin' trolls !!!
Qhat a crock of bullshit. Get over it. Oswald acted alone anone bullett struck JFK form the rear. Not one shread of p;hysical suports any other conclusion.
experiment done with a mock up of depository, where they found gun and 3 casings. a marine fired 3 shots several times with same type gun and the spent shells fell in the same spots as originals were found and in the same time frame as videos show. a man standing near the overpass in the median was struck with what was later found to be concrete from the missing bullet (#1) hitting the ground several feet in front of him. last 2 bullets fired quick and both hit JFK. very recent study in 2011.
The fatal headshot came from the grassy knoll behind the fence. Close playback of the Zapruder film shows that two shots hit Kennedy almost simaltaneously. One hit from behind pushing his head slightly forward, the other hitting him above the right temple knocking him back and to the left. This also falls into line with the Dictabelt recording given to the HSCA.
There were Mafia guys there who did the shooting, CIA guys like Hunt & Sturgis hiding in a railroad car, handing out SS credentials.
fobrien1: Of the firearms that I own, the RE Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano is one that scares the hell out of me. It may be due in part to the story behind it in Dallas, or the fact that it was designed and implemented under Facist rule for only one purpose. It is certainly not an M-1, but forged out of violence and war it is in many ways comparable. It has been laughed at and ridiculed in conspiracy books and movies, but is light years ahead of the Philadelphia Deringer that murdered Lincoln.
I apologize for some of my abrupt statements concerning Bob Harris' research video. I believe that Bob is both competent and sincere. That I disagree with his conclusions concerning gross distortion to the back of the President's head is based on my on observation, including his video and the Official Autopsy X-rays, which he cites in his presentation. This video is well presented as are his other You Tube videos. I recommend them. I take exception to some of his conclusions. . . . Jimmy
fobrien1: Have you looked at David Von Pein's JFK channel ? If not, take a look. He is a lone nut guy like me, but I know that you have an open mind to rational argument. Give him a look over. At the very least you will find a wealth of material that he has accumulated on the assassination. I do enjoy and appreciate your views.
You do not want to have your sweetheart or your kids standing behind you when you get hit with one of these. The round is more than capable of double penetration and exit integrity. However no two bullets fired will necessarily behave in the same manner. It is a very imprecise science to ever duplicate exactly that second shot. But when you come to the conclusion in your own mind and experience that it could happen, the probabilites are that it did. No elephants and daises here. See what I mean?
The Carcano round is one hell of a customer. A lot of colleratal damage can result and it was designed for penetration. I am leary of even firing them at the range. That is why I say that the desentigration puzzles me with the 3rd shot. It should have exited the windshield intact, or killed William Greer, who knows why it broke up like that.
I believe that LBJ and Bobby Kennedy made for strange bedfellows during the holiday season of 1963/1964. Prior to the assassination, LBJ was neck deep in the Bobby Baker scandal and was facing a kick off the ticket in 64', possibly even prosecution. Bobby, at this point was willing to let all of that slide into oblivion full knowing that he and Jack had not had the opportunity to cover their tracks on some equally damaging foreign and domestic issues. Oswald proved to be the unknown variable.
For those who might be wondering? I still believe Oswald did it. But the investigation into the assassination may have threatened to open up a whole new can of snails for agencies like the Department of Defence. the FBI, and Central Intelligence. The assassination itself could well be something as simple as the lone nut. But the benign conspiracy (ultimate) may have been to hide where certain loose ends might lead. The JFK/RFK images might have been tarnished by the revelation. Think about it.
I would like to recommend a read to those interested. That would be the investigative report done by Seymour M. Hersh, entitled "The Dark Side of Camelot". Although this book does not deal with the assassination, it inadvertantly (in my judgement) reveals some remarkable insights as to why the Attorney General would not, and could not buck the handling of the Investigation. No hard evidence here, but extremely credible footnotes and references. "Why we can't see the files until 2029 . . .?
Forensic science has advanced to the point that I believe that the physical investigation should be reopened, with all of the known evidence laid bare. This would have to include the exhumation of the President's corpse. This will not happen. And while that old conspiracy side of me says that the tomb may indeed be empty, I do believe that modern techniques might yet establish new evidence and bring an end to nearly 50 years of speculation.
Many folks want to argue world politics, and devious powers in America that hated JFK and wanted him dead. Indeed, I am certain that many of these benefited and even prospered by his death. This is not enough to convice me of their complicity in the assassination. Therefore, the rules of evidence to me are quite simple. That the DPD's investigation was lacking and the Autopsy was butchered, I conceed. But until such time as new evidence emerges, it is the strongest evidence that we have.
My thoughts (not evidence) are this. If you wish to pursue conspiracy, you can simplify your argument by giving the Commission Oswald's 2nd shot as a high probability and attack the 3rd shot. But I absolutely do not believe that it was fired from the front. Back and to the left is not an indication of the direction of the shot. It is an indication of the force of gravity upon the President's erect form before and after his brain ceased to function.
@BlueWolfe38 if by saying erect you imply that jfk was sat sitting up straight at the time of the head shot then your incorrect ,jfk was leaning forward and leftward towards jackie .we can see from the z film his upper back is between 8 inches and perhaps a foot away from the back rest of the rear seat .
@fobrien1 You are correct sir, in your description. I am saying that prior to the head shot JFK was conciously holding his body erect in the position which you describe. After the head shot, the body simply resigned itself to gravity, back and to the right.
@BlueWolfe38 jfk was some what erect but in the manner which i described ,which was forward and leftward ,we see that when jackie jumped up on the bonnet as she was no longer supporting jfk that his all but lifeless body fell forward and leftward . so much so that one of his legs ended up just sticking out over the side of the limo and that was gravity .an apple on a tree has the ground directly beneath it so when it falls with gravity it has to fall in the direction of the ground below it---
@fobrien1 jfk as can be seen was leaning forward and leftward and at the head shot also makes a slight forward motion ,now if he was allready leaning quite a bit forward and then gets hit in the head from the rear (moving slighty forward again ) if he is now dead or all but gravity such as it is should have him falling in the direction that his body was facing .but this doesnt happen , in fact the opposite occurs he goes back and to the left . there is a video online -----------------
@fobrien1 Now I do have a reasonable issue with this part. You will note that at one moment after 313, Mrs. Kennedy pushed his body forward and away from her as she climbed out onto the trunk. I also believe that the picture that you are refering to taken after the car cleared the underpass: that is Agent Clint Hill's right foot protruding over the right side passenger door. Clint was only one of two agents in Dealey Plaza who reacted in the proper fashion according to his training.
@BlueWolfe38 its quite gruesome (so beware if you come across it ) it shows two men being executed by a shot from a rifle in the back of the head ,both men are on there knees in a position simillar to a seated position but they are leaning a little forward simillar to jfk in the limo ,both men having been leaning slightly forward when hit and killed fell forward with gravity .neither man was sent violently backwards .
@fobrien1 I think that his forward attitude was through conscious physical exertion on his part. The head does move slightly forward upon impact of the 3rd shot. With loss of mind over matter after the impact the body fell back toward Jackie. Limo acceleration, not sure, jet effect of matter leaving the right front top of the head, not sure. neuro-spasm, not sure. Some of these things or all to some degree may have played a part in what we see on the film. This is theory on my part.
Skull bone is dense, and if the jacketed round hit at an angle of 25 degrees as suggested, it could fragment. Could, but not as likely. It should have exited the head somewhat squashed, but more or less intact. It would have driven matter forward (just like what did happen). The Dr.'s at Parkland were never in a position to critique the head wound. It is obvious from the film that the rear of the head, though fractured, remained intact and the front top of the head was blown out and forward.
Take Oswald's 2nd shot. (not literally) Nothing magic about the bullet found. The Carcano was perfectly capable of the wounds to Kennedy and Connally with the full metal jacket remaining intact. My problem to this day is Oswald's 3rd shot to the head. The metal jacket fragmented. If I were a conspiracy person today, this is where I would question the Warren Report. The round could indeed fragment upon skull impact, but is less likely than the probabilities offered by the Warren Report 2nd shot.
@BlueWolfe38 "Take Oswald's 2nd shot. (not literally) Nothing magic about the bullet found. The Carcano was perfectly capable of the wounds to Kennedy and Connally with the full metal jacket remaining intact"
the expert testimony within the warren commission vollumes /the witness who found it and the witness he showed it to / and the condition of the warren comissions own test bullets would disagree with you .
@fobrien1 Disagree as they might, the second shot conclusion is entirely plausable. Very likely when viewed in the light of the film. I have fired a Carcano round through 4 inches of solid oak, recovered the unflatened round and inserted it back into the empty shell casing from which it was fired. This is not the case with every round that I have tested, but there is no magic to Spector's (whom I despise) theory.
@BlueWolfe38 did you fire the shot in a downward angle simillar to that of the 6th floor window ?.so your dismissing the warren commissions expert testimony /the witness who found the bullet and the witness he showed it to and the condition of the warren commissions test bullets .as hard as the commission tried the only test bullets they could produce with a condition which looked anything like ce399 were 2 bullets fired into cotton wadding .
@fobrien1 I demonstrated none of the above. My observations are based solely on my knowledge of the particular weapon, the round, and my own conclusion that the bullet could have penetrated JFK and Connelly and emerged looking pretty darn good. The fact that it was flattened at the base is part of the evidence as exhibited by the Warren Report.
@BlueWolfe38 "Disagree as they might, the second shot conclusion is entirely plausable"
of course a bullet can pass through 2 men so one can say its plausable .however the warren commissions own experts concluded based on the fragments /the bullet condidtion / the wounds that in the case of ce399 all tho possible it wasnt probable . dr humes when shown the fragments taken from connallys body ( and knowing fragments were left in connallys wrist and leg ) and ce399 -----------------------
@BlueWolfe38 said "i cant concieve of where the fragments came from on that missile" . a bullet can pass through 2 men (some are designed to do such a thing ) but in the case of jfk we have to consider the downward angle of entry /the slight upward angle of exit / its moving righward to connallys armpit /its moving leftward hitting the rib the wrist and lodging in the leg .so this bullet didnt simply pass directly through two men with no deflection .
@fobrien1 My belief (opinion mind you, not evidence) is that the direction changed only slightly after taking out Connelly's rib, then more dramatically so after impact with the wrist. It had lost considerable velocity at this point. I think that an alignment from the President's body to Connelly's is more probable than most people think. I myself did not always see this as probable. I made up my mind recently to start back with the basics. If conspiracy is in my future, I will visit it again.
An Italian Turni 6.5 Carcano (regardless of Oliver Stone's/Kevin "Garrison" Costner's bullsh*t) is a formidable weapon after 50 years in the hands of an average shooter. I own one with the 4X18 Japanese offset Scope as mounted on Oswald's rifle. I have not had any Conspiracy Volunteers willing to stand downrange while I demonstrate 3 shots in under 8 seconds. The "truth" that you all "seek" is in the National Archives and within the volumes of the Warren Commission. This is called "evidence".
The witnesses on elm and on the overpass who "thought" there was a shooter, or shooters from the front were never able to testify that they actually saw anybody shoot Kennedy. Their testimony is not credible because it is unsubstantiated in any other way. There were no weapons or spent shells recovered from the overpass or the grassy knoll. There is NO evidence for conspiracy, while there is a staggering amount of evidence against Oswald as the lone gunman. This video is a gross distortion.
@BlueWolfe38 "The witnesses on elm and on the overpass who "thought" there was a shooter, or shooters from the front were never able to testify that they actually saw anybody shoot Kennedy"
so that they werent called to testify is an indication to you that their information was not reliable/credible ? and i guess nor were the 2 cops up there reliable or the people who lined elm street or officer joe smith who encountered a fake ss agent on the knoll ?.
@BlueWolfe38 "Their testimony is not credible because it is unsubstantiated in any other way"
perhaps not with physical evidence such as a bullet but it is substantiated by other witnesses on elm street .but then the lack of bullet or a shell doesnt necessarily negate a bullet being fired does it ? what did the warren commission conclude about the tippit shells ?.
@fobrien1 Please understand that for many years I viewed this case from a Conspiratorial point of view. That is frustrating after nearly 50 years. I do have to consider it odd that after all this time no physical evidence has emerged. Only theory. This lends more weight to the Warren Commission where substantial evidence does indeed exist. I can't argue as to what people thought they saw of heard. I was a police officer myself for quite a number of years. I want the hard evidence these days.
@BlueWolfe38 personally i dont care for theories and i dont have any theories i prefer to debate the case based on the facts /the evidence/documentation /witness testimony expert and otherwise etc .when i speak of the warren commission i dont mean the 880 page report i mean the warren commision testimonies etc in their entirety ,and having seen the conclussions i wonder did the people reaching the conclussions ever read or hear the actual testimonies .
@BlueWolfe38 "There is NO evidence for conspiracy, while there is a staggering amount of evidence against Oswald as the lone gunman"
there is evidence against oswald ,he was in the building at the time and no one saw him at 12.30 however i would dispute your staggering amount of evidence claim .
fobrien . . . Harris is basing his "theory" on the shape of the back of the head in frame 337. He is discounting the area covered by the 1st Lady's gloved right hand in this frame. Though the skull is shattered at this point there is no "ugly protrusion at the back of the head". This is a FACT. Not because I say so, but because it is supported by medical "evidence". (photographs and x-rays) You will never be able to provide "evidence" for a frontal shot because there was NO frontal shot. Sorry.
Harris is totally "grasping at straws" with this video. The trouble is that to the casual observer he seems to make much out of illusion. Just before frame 313 the head moves forward. This movement is barely perceptable on the Zapruder film, but consistent with a shot from behind with the Carcano. All of the spatter is blown forward on the film. As Kennedy was sitting upright at the time and unsupported in the seat, the rest is physics. It is called "gravity". Sorry Conspiracy Folks !
This exercise is completely laughable. The author simply provides NO evidence to support this outrageous conclusion. If you are serious about assassination science, all of the ballistic and medical evidence is available online. No video, photograph, ballistic evidence, medical record or credible eyewitness testimony supports a shot from the front. The key to this hoax video is Jackie's white gloved right hand. Watch the Zapruder film and use the reasoning that God gave a Goose. Total Bullsh*t.
@BlueWolfe38 "No video, photograph, ballistic evidence, medical record or credible eyewitness testimony supports a shot from the front"
can you tell us why you deem the witnesses on elm or on the overpass to be not credible ?. or are you guilty of that which you accuse harris of "The author simply provides NO evidence to support this outrageous conclusion" some thing isnt so just because you say it isnt so .
I can't buy this. There is NO ugly protrusion at the back of the head. A moron could see that your outline does NOT account for Jackie's white glove at the back of his neck. The top right portion of his head has just been blasted away by LHO's 3rd shot. If you have sound ballistic or medical evidence to the contrary, please share it. The back of the head is intact and you are merely seeing what you want to see. Again, please provide evidence to support another lunatic conspiracy theory.
it's funny as rational as people claim to be and smart as they pretend to be how they don't realize that there were more than one shooter, it's common sense if people would take a minute and rationalize it.
Riding in a convertible was incredibly naive considering the controversial decisions his administration had made. I do not believe he could have done this without ever considering the possibility that he would be assassinated.
it always reminds me of 9 11- in asmuch as surely it would be Jackie who could beyond any shadow of doubt say exactly what occured in that car and why? I assume she never spoke about it. It reminds me of 9 11 because i never see testemonies from survivors from close to the impact zone. i mean in all these event there were people who were actually right there.
watch it again...THE FACIAL SHOT CAME FROM THE DRIVER...THAT'S WHEN JACKIE O TRIES TO SPLIT. ..RUNNING AWAY FROM WHERE SHE HEARD IT COME FROM..BUT THE AGENT STOPS HER
@BHDread She wasn't trying to "split" she was gathering his brains. The very people he warned us about are the same assholes who did 911. The bushes should be kicked out of our country for they are the devil.
Frames of the Zapruder film were removed prior to release for public viewing.
If you watch closely, EVERYONE in the vehicle moves briefly forward just prior to the fatal shot. Why? Because, even as many witnesses reported, the driver abruptly stopped the vehicle during the shooting.
Notice, too, that the vehicle was in the right lane, but departed after the head shot from the left lane. Here, also, a witness reported the driver not only stopped but veered to the left as he did.
@smellmyfart1000 that was a secret service agent called Clint Hill, and he wasnt hitting her he was removing her hand off the trunk and telling her to stay down in case of further shooting.
You have a good point most people have no proof of where the projectile went in and then exited u dont acuse anyone (Driver) see its impossile to shoot someone and the entrance is on the far side of the head if ur in the car it had to have been a by-stander or someone in the buildings my guess a highered gun man my ''guess'' oswald u should do some research on oswald and racial discrimination history or possibly police records if ur able to get that type of information.
there was no finger prints... it was a palm print. oswald was not arrested or tried for kennedy's murder.. oswald shot and killed a police officer thats why he was arrested but before he could be tried for either of the crimes he was murdered by jack ruby 2 days later...
If anyone suggests that Oswald was set up, how the hell did they get his finger prints on the gun and boxes, ok he worked there so finger prints on the boxes are a possibility, i was never entirely sure what to think until i watched "the kennedy detail" (discovery channel) there's a black guy who who as a child was below and opposite Oswald looking up at him and saw a rifle shoot three times, his appearance on the documentary is the first time hes ever spoke about it since it happened.
When Ruby shot Oswald nobody was expecting it, he jumped out of the crowd holding a small "easy for concealment" type of pistol. Oswald may have not been able to walk out of the building with a rifle stuffed down his pants with all the police alerted looking a shooter, so leaving it on the top floor out of the way would have been a good enough temporary hiding place, maybe to return and clean up later, but that's just an assumption.
Jeese this is SO numb. Obviously hydraulic shock. Go on and believe your conspiracies. It was a different and more lax time period. They even distributed flyers to show the prez's path he'd take 3 days early. It's hard to believe just one fascist idiot could do all that. But in this day and age, haven't we seen that one man can do even more terrible things than shoot one president. No "big conspiracy" here. Go on believing it though -you know you WANT TO....
three bullet casings where found where Oswald was, the gun was found with his finger prints on, boxes with his finger prints on that he had moved to take the shots, most importantly there was a witness that was looking up at the window and saw Oswald fire three times, this witness is still alive, watch "the kennedy detail"
@cheersing4u Is Amos Euins the person you are referring to? If so from his report March 10, 1964. [Repeats what he related in Dallas Police Affidavit except Euins is not sure that the man he saw was white or black (2H208) and he heard 4 shots (2H204).]
there was one shooter only, Oswald, watch "the kennedy detail" a very good documentary which explains Oswald fired three shots the first one called "the missing bullet" as Oswald was scoping the president and fired just as a traffic light passed and hit it, second bullet hit JFK in the back of the neck passed through and injured the front passenger also, bullet number three hit JFK in the back of the head killing him. please note that note all exit wounds are large like this video assumes.
@cheersing4u Impossible, The trajectory of the 3rd bullet proves that whoever fired the second shot did not fire the 3rd. 1st and second shot came from the book depository and the 3rd kill shot from the grassy bank.
Also it has been proved that Oswald could not of fired all 3 shots because of the time it takes to eject the spent bullet casing from the rifle and fire again.
JFK was not hit at the back of the head. He was hit on the right of his head. Look at the killshot again.
@JasonHarry37 yeah i've watched it many times, the bullet trajectory is only an assumption and is not evidence. (no offence) *an entry wound can be bigger than an exit wound* the fact that jfk's head falls back as if the bullet has pushed it back with inertia is too delayed, the bullet was traveling so fast and rifle bullets are sharp tipped no inertia would have been present, that kinda stuff in only in the movies, his head is just simply flops back dead.
@cheersing4u If you don't mind me asking what is your opinion on what happened?
Do you think Oswald was the only shooter? Why was Jack Ruby allowed to so easily shoot Oswald?
A gun, 3 spent cartridges and Oswalds prints everywhere. Why didnt he make more effort to discard the gun/spent bullet casing and wear gloves like assasin's normally do?
@cheersing4u But what if the shot did come from the front? What if it was a big, slow, subsonic .45 cal hollow point? A hollow point does transfer a lot more energy to the target than a FMJ does. I think the results would be similar to what we see in the Zapruder film.
This guy is an idiot. There is no ugly protrusion at the back of Kennedy's head. Its merely that the part of his head below the "ugly protrusion" is obscured by Jackie Kennedy's gloved hand. Also the height of Kennedy's head from ear to crown has not decreased, the angle has simply changed because he is slumping forward and to his left.
1st shot hit passenger and passed through the seat and got jfk in the throat ..can be seen on footage ,,they both jump from the bullet and the paasenger begins to show pain then the head shot.
it was said the driver killed jfk
1weside 8 hours ago
Also notice,, also notice, also notice man enough with the also notice,this guy was boring he sounded like my old science teacher. This whole video was really boring and yes like all of you out their in inter net land we all seen and heard it before.....
thundermaster41 2 days ago
so sad you waste so much time re-iterating everything we already know
90QuattroKid 4 days ago
James Files
threepeice 6 days ago
@threepeice Damn right it was James Files. With Nicoletti shooting from the daltex building aswell.
tysonfor1 4 days ago
hit him once in the arm and once in the head.
kiddownstreet4 1 week ago
daaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
kiddownstreet4 1 week ago
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inspectorcritic 1 week ago
I see nothing here to confirm or deny a second shot. What about the far more simple idea that after the wound, the brain matter exited leaving a void that the scalp collapsed into?
jcisbell 1 week ago
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rjpolasek 1 week ago
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According to the unclassifield released LBJ tapes (recorded telephone calls between him and hoover) there were THREE bullets that struck. Two hit the president and one hit the governor. This is before the Warren commission and HOOVER already knew what happened. He had ballistics run on all bullets. His best men (Hoover's) were at the autopsy. The warren commission came up with that crazy one bullet thing! Search for the Hoover and LBJ tapes. Most of LJB's phone recording have been released.
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rjpolasek 1 week ago
@rjpolasek - STOP...just stop it! I'm so tired of this crap.
While I'm no friend of governments (they DO lie and
they DO coverup) that doesn't mean that every single
god damn tragedy is a conspiracy. And has it not occurred
to you that someone other than these "wealthy people"
are making money off this book? In spite of what you say
it is NOT a "must read". Now...watch...I will be accused
of being part of the conspiracy! This is just like religion.
Myths and fairy tales!
FrlghtWolf 1 week ago
the 2nd shot couldnt have come from the front..A) becuase its at a high angle so unless the govenor (who was shot by the first round in the back) pulled a gun and jackie didnt notice it. and B) one thing anyone who owns a fire arm will tell you is that an entry wound is clean other then a whole it looks like nothing happen. when you look at the back of a target however...the back is "exploded" or spread out. also take into account the shooter was a sniper for the military..theyre highly trained
zdog11393 1 week ago
@zdog11393 I agree with B. I've grown up hunting and shooting and you're 100% correct. The entry wound is nothing compared to the exit wound.
bocapone556 1 week ago
I had thanksgiving dinner, in 1979, with a high-ranking FBI man who - according to his daughter - was friends with J. Edgar Hoover. I worked with his daughter and she had invited me to dinner. Myself and his son - a dentist - were having drinks in his den while the ladies cooked. Somehow Kennedy came up and they guy launched into a vicious tirade - said that the killing of the Kennedy's was a high point for the bureau. He called him a "whoremonger", etc. I was astounded - it was surreal.
guymerritt 2 weeks ago
No ... the bullet entered the left back and blew out the front ... the first bullet came in the back and took out the guy in front ... one marksman - 2 shots ...and the 'alleged' shooter was conviently removed ... so ... no other suspects? ...
RudiKelle1 2 weeks ago
We'll most likely never know. I watched "JFK" with Kevin Cosner, great movie and educated me on alot of the possibilites of what happened. The most interesting point made is that Oswald would not be able to get off the shots in time and still make it out of the book depository. Eye witnesses say that there may have been another shooter by the grassy nole. Which would make sense. But Idk. Was way before my time.
Brad1112223 2 weeks ago
@Brad1112223 i watched a show on history channel and it said the grassy nole would be improbebole (spelt that wrong lol) because to get a shot the shooter would have to be miles back and be about 5 feet in the air IDK if wats hes saying is true but thats what i know
camero719 1 week ago
Dumbass
0101001101010000 2 weeks ago
Watch jackie only!... She was the secondary shooter, Primary missed!
Follow the blood spatter back to Jackies hand on his shoulder!
Catfishspike 2 weeks ago
If you hating on this person talking about the assassination, then shut up and go look for another video better than this. He did nothing wrong talking about the assassination and how it was 2 shots not 1.
Sammidiep 2 weeks ago
Basically JFK, OSWALD AND BOBBY KENNEDY WERE UNLAWFULLY KILLED...BY THEIR GOVERNMENT...THIS WORLD IS FUCKED UP...
pople5Dollar 3 weeks ago
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701shep 3 weeks ago
@701shep sorry mate...what do you mean..
pople5Dollar 3 weeks ago
A frangible, or exploding, bullet was discharged from forward and to the right towards JFK. It entered JFK's head near the right temple, and exploded along the right side of JFK's head from the front towards the rear. This easily explains the partially exploded proturbances which appear along the right side of JFK's head in the course of the Zapruder footage and also in the morgue and autopsy photos.[ Thus that bullet was not fired by Oswald nor was it a conventional bullet ].
Richardhedditch261 3 weeks ago
dude, shut the fuck up, go back to work at Blockbuster, save up some cash and move out of your mom's basement.... and maybe loose your virginity.... what? I'm way off? That isnt you at all???? then fuckin act like it
ub00313 3 weeks ago
you've got something here...I know one day the truth will come out.
DJMavCha 3 weeks ago
the shock wave that is what turns everything to mush from a second round would of completely taken the presidents head clean off. and if you are stating that the shot be taken from the statue (grassy knoll) then his wife would of taken the round. i've been shooting for long enough to know that the elevated shot would of placed a down angle on the round.. it wouldn't of exited high.. sorry but this man knows nothing of ballistics.. ooo and the velocity tail arrives usually 100 sec + after
m4x1170 3 weeks ago
now i have been very fascinated by this event for many many years, i don't have any feelings with regards to speculation but work solely on video footage. now gents let me ask you all something and if you are unsure look at my hunting pics for proof, you say this man received TWO shot to the head within a half sec of each other and yet he still had a head ?? the amount of damage you see here is from no way two rounds gents... the headshot round is a single round am afraid.
m4x1170 3 weeks ago
"you can see that there is a dramatic change in the shape of his head"
uhhh no crap... it was blown to pieces....
tenthavekylie406 3 weeks ago 2
Pedophile
cincodoggy 4 weeks ago
When JFKs limousine emerged from behind the street sign JFK was already reaching up around his throat area. That's shot number one, from behind. The second shot is from the front and we see skull exposed as well as blood and brain matter being forcefully scattered. Then the third shot occurs a half second later, causing even more damage to the head of JFK.
GenNormanSheiskoph 1 month ago
He definitely "slumped forward" when Oswald shot him from behind. It's so obvious, You can also see the magic bullet pause in mid air as well. Mossads new motto is "We get all our money from the U.S. taxpayer, so we'll kill who we want for a small fee"
peyotecactus 1 month ago
"also notice all that upper hair we saw if no longer present" (president) lol
TheRealGiiRlz 1 month ago
This is interesting, but if you look at the video of the shooting you will see that there is no splatter at all associated with a second shot from the front. It is obvious that the final event is caused by just one shot and the damage described here was done with that shot and revealed by the head jerking back, almost certainly as a result of a sudden acceleration of the car, or perhaps some muscular spasm. If a second shot hit, there would be some kind of splatter.
eBe4IXcept 1 month ago
Between the second and third shots, for about 4 seconds LHO reloaded his rifle again, finds the moving target is shooting back. Unable to make these moves and hit a target of just over 15 cm in size and 90 meters 25kmp / h movement. This procedure is impossible.
joaoisobr 1 month ago
Basically the CIA did kill him but this is why. The president after him ordered a sniper to assassinate him. It was all cause and effect, cause: John f kennedy won the election and was what seemed as a better president than the next. effect: the cia was secretly paid to kill john f kennedy. It was all because of jealousy, fame and money. Suggested movie: 9/11 loose change. These things happen all the time and what was seemingly unexpected now makes sense.
thekrazygamerkid 1 month ago
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@1:39 the height of his head hasnt shrunk, its the angle that we are looking at his head from that makes it appear that way, he is leaning over towards the left. His left shoulder is now at a lower angle than his right and he is leaning to the left. His head is tilted away from the camera.
Carbon657 1 month ago
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Carbon657 1 month ago
THe fucking C.I.A fucking shot em, we all know that.
molomix23 1 month ago
Israeli Mossad and CIA killed JFK.
JFK Opposed Nukes for Israel.
JFK tried to introduce Interest free money AND deescalate Vietnam.
With him Dead, ALL 3 of these policies were Reversed by Zionist LBJ.
Zapruder (Jew) 'caught' the film and Jack 'Ruby' Rubenstein (Jew) was the Patsy.
Michael Collins Piper wrote a Bestseller Now banned called FINAL JUDGMENT which indicts Israel for his assassination.
'By Way Of Deception, Thu Shall Do War' -Mossad Motto
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
@StSimonMartyr are you sure about all your facts. i mean the "krazygamerkid" brings up some real strong arguements about the whole issue.lol.
BUSTRCHERRY 1 month ago
@StSimonMartyr
Mossad's former motto was: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה wich is hebrew for "For by wise guidance you can wage your war". "By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War." is a translation by Ostrovsky. After Ostrovsky's translation, Mossad changed their motto to באין תחבולות יפול עם, ותשועה ברוב יועץ, "Where there is no guidance, a nation falls, but in an abundance of counselors there is safety."
KaptenRune 1 month ago
Victor Ostrovsky "the most treacherous Jew in modern Jewish history" says the Mossads Motto is 'BY WAY OF DECEPTION, THOU SHALL DO War' So Im going to go with that.
If we cant trust Zionist Jews like you monitoring comments oon Youtube, Who can we trust?
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
wat i think is dat da driver shouted.....mr president get down then BOOM
Scarface1148 1 month ago
@Scarface1148 you read fuzzy lips on 1 frame per second moving footage? good job.
BUSTRCHERRY 1 month ago
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You're a total idiot.
The passengers were the secret service agent, And the govner and his wife
#1 the GOVNER was shot, and #2 No one was armed
ChuckTestas 1 month ago
People belive in a magic bullet just as much as in god. So the bullet must be true. pft.
truenothing900 1 month ago
i still wondering that some poeple still believe that oswald has something to do with this...kennedy was shoot from the right and from the front, tell me how someone can do this when hes is somewere behind this scene in a house?
nicolem100 1 month ago
@nicolem100 Right. And we have our modern day Oswald in Osama bin Laden.
canadianroot 1 month ago
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Watch Zapruder film jfk put something in his mouth frame 227 (probably cyanide) he is already dead as she puts her hand on his arm before he gets shot, also at frame 227 the man sitting directly in front of jfk is seen tucking or reaching under his RIGHT arm and turning probably to line up the shot or feel.
It looks as tho they all acted on some que like if the sign board at frame 214 was supposed to block the setup.
WATCH ANY FOOTAGE HE IS ALREADY DEAD BEFORE SHOT !
999worlddestroyer 1 month ago
Every time I watch something like this I think to myself, God im glad I dont waste my time on stupid shit like this.
isaac12345johnson 1 month ago
@isaac12345johnson "Every time I watch something like this" means you DO "waste your time....."
tregoj1 1 month ago
all of u who think that lee oswald fired the head-shot, then yr so right....the bullet shot past the car frm behind and richoeted off the freeway overpass and then hit jfk in the head, wow now that's a magic bullet...u freakin' trolls !!!
andyww68 1 month ago
the passenger finished him off
Budsmokerhaha 1 month ago
the driver of the car where JFK was sitting on the backseat made a fatal final headhot on him so there were 3bullets
Mello05061995 1 month ago
@Mello05061995 how much crack do u take when u get up, mayb u wanna lower it a bit...u fukinn troll
andyww68 1 month ago
@Mello05061995 interesting that the footage doesn't show that, u moron!!!!!!!!
andyww68 1 month ago
FATMAN SUCKS!
CRESWIN2000 1 month ago 2
Oh yeah and nice audio cuts queer
Immabee01982 1 month ago
Why you so GAY!
Immabee01982 1 month ago
Actually the witnesses heard 11 shots, so that will probably mean than Oswald was not the only shooter
xNekoMimi99 1 month ago
Qhat a crock of bullshit. Get over it. Oswald acted alone anone bullett struck JFK form the rear. Not one shread of p;hysical suports any other conclusion.
RoyDMcAvoy 1 month ago
@RoyDMcAvoy u so full of shit, go get a job, and stop taking welfare checks...u trollop
andyww68 1 month ago
@RoyDMcAvoy the only thing oswald did alone, was buy a coke frm the vending machine, u troll!!!!!!!!
andyww68 1 month ago
Bush 41 was the shooter.
AntiSemantic1 1 month ago
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Scumbot404 1 month ago
experiment done with a mock up of depository, where they found gun and 3 casings. a marine fired 3 shots several times with same type gun and the spent shells fell in the same spots as originals were found and in the same time frame as videos show. a man standing near the overpass in the median was struck with what was later found to be concrete from the missing bullet (#1) hitting the ground several feet in front of him. last 2 bullets fired quick and both hit JFK. very recent study in 2011.
kingangelcummins 1 month ago
Zapputa and Ruby
join the dots
Alchaeon1 1 month ago
Zapputa and Ruby
Alchaeon1 1 month ago
The fatal headshot came from the grassy knoll behind the fence. Close playback of the Zapruder film shows that two shots hit Kennedy almost simaltaneously. One hit from behind pushing his head slightly forward, the other hitting him above the right temple knocking him back and to the left. This also falls into line with the Dictabelt recording given to the HSCA.
There were Mafia guys there who did the shooting, CIA guys like Hunt & Sturgis hiding in a railroad car, handing out SS credentials.
lethalweapon129 1 month ago
there were 3 shots the first was a fail to a stop light
miragef19 1 month ago
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v4lkyr 1 month ago
@v4lkyr there were 3
miragef19 1 month ago
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oh yeah you're right, there were 3 shots in 6 seconds... guess I confused the numbers
v4lkyr 1 month ago
fobrien1: Of the firearms that I own, the RE Turni 6.5 Italian Carcano is one that scares the hell out of me. It may be due in part to the story behind it in Dallas, or the fact that it was designed and implemented under Facist rule for only one purpose. It is certainly not an M-1, but forged out of violence and war it is in many ways comparable. It has been laughed at and ridiculed in conspiracy books and movies, but is light years ahead of the Philadelphia Deringer that murdered Lincoln.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
"For as long as there are those of us who reason, and even rationally argue for the truth, there is yet the hope that we will find it". Jimmy
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
I apologize for some of my abrupt statements concerning Bob Harris' research video. I believe that Bob is both competent and sincere. That I disagree with his conclusions concerning gross distortion to the back of the President's head is based on my on observation, including his video and the Official Autopsy X-rays, which he cites in his presentation. This video is well presented as are his other You Tube videos. I recommend them. I take exception to some of his conclusions. . . . Jimmy
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
fobrien1: Have you looked at David Von Pein's JFK channel ? If not, take a look. He is a lone nut guy like me, but I know that you have an open mind to rational argument. Give him a look over. At the very least you will find a wealth of material that he has accumulated on the assassination. I do enjoy and appreciate your views.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
You do not want to have your sweetheart or your kids standing behind you when you get hit with one of these. The round is more than capable of double penetration and exit integrity. However no two bullets fired will necessarily behave in the same manner. It is a very imprecise science to ever duplicate exactly that second shot. But when you come to the conclusion in your own mind and experience that it could happen, the probabilites are that it did. No elephants and daises here. See what I mean?
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
The Carcano round is one hell of a customer. A lot of colleratal damage can result and it was designed for penetration. I am leary of even firing them at the range. That is why I say that the desentigration puzzles me with the 3rd shot. It should have exited the windshield intact, or killed William Greer, who knows why it broke up like that.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
With all of that said, I am back to the evidence and the facts. Step right up, folks. Prove your theory. Won't cost you a dime.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
I believe that LBJ and Bobby Kennedy made for strange bedfellows during the holiday season of 1963/1964. Prior to the assassination, LBJ was neck deep in the Bobby Baker scandal and was facing a kick off the ticket in 64', possibly even prosecution. Bobby, at this point was willing to let all of that slide into oblivion full knowing that he and Jack had not had the opportunity to cover their tracks on some equally damaging foreign and domestic issues. Oswald proved to be the unknown variable.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
For those who might be wondering? I still believe Oswald did it. But the investigation into the assassination may have threatened to open up a whole new can of snails for agencies like the Department of Defence. the FBI, and Central Intelligence. The assassination itself could well be something as simple as the lone nut. But the benign conspiracy (ultimate) may have been to hide where certain loose ends might lead. The JFK/RFK images might have been tarnished by the revelation. Think about it.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
I would like to recommend a read to those interested. That would be the investigative report done by Seymour M. Hersh, entitled "The Dark Side of Camelot". Although this book does not deal with the assassination, it inadvertantly (in my judgement) reveals some remarkable insights as to why the Attorney General would not, and could not buck the handling of the Investigation. No hard evidence here, but extremely credible footnotes and references. "Why we can't see the files until 2029 . . .?
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Forensic science has advanced to the point that I believe that the physical investigation should be reopened, with all of the known evidence laid bare. This would have to include the exhumation of the President's corpse. This will not happen. And while that old conspiracy side of me says that the tomb may indeed be empty, I do believe that modern techniques might yet establish new evidence and bring an end to nearly 50 years of speculation.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Many folks want to argue world politics, and devious powers in America that hated JFK and wanted him dead. Indeed, I am certain that many of these benefited and even prospered by his death. This is not enough to convice me of their complicity in the assassination. Therefore, the rules of evidence to me are quite simple. That the DPD's investigation was lacking and the Autopsy was butchered, I conceed. But until such time as new evidence emerges, it is the strongest evidence that we have.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
My thoughts (not evidence) are this. If you wish to pursue conspiracy, you can simplify your argument by giving the Commission Oswald's 2nd shot as a high probability and attack the 3rd shot. But I absolutely do not believe that it was fired from the front. Back and to the left is not an indication of the direction of the shot. It is an indication of the force of gravity upon the President's erect form before and after his brain ceased to function.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 if by saying erect you imply that jfk was sat sitting up straight at the time of the head shot then your incorrect ,jfk was leaning forward and leftward towards jackie .we can see from the z film his upper back is between 8 inches and perhaps a foot away from the back rest of the rear seat .
fobrien1 2 months ago
@fobrien1 You are correct sir, in your description. I am saying that prior to the head shot JFK was conciously holding his body erect in the position which you describe. After the head shot, the body simply resigned itself to gravity, back and to the right.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 jfk was some what erect but in the manner which i described ,which was forward and leftward ,we see that when jackie jumped up on the bonnet as she was no longer supporting jfk that his all but lifeless body fell forward and leftward . so much so that one of his legs ended up just sticking out over the side of the limo and that was gravity .an apple on a tree has the ground directly beneath it so when it falls with gravity it has to fall in the direction of the ground below it---
fobrien1 1 month ago
@fobrien1 jfk as can be seen was leaning forward and leftward and at the head shot also makes a slight forward motion ,now if he was allready leaning quite a bit forward and then gets hit in the head from the rear (moving slighty forward again ) if he is now dead or all but gravity such as it is should have him falling in the direction that his body was facing .but this doesnt happen , in fact the opposite occurs he goes back and to the left . there is a video online -----------------
fobrien1 1 month ago
@fobrien1 Now I do have a reasonable issue with this part. You will note that at one moment after 313, Mrs. Kennedy pushed his body forward and away from her as she climbed out onto the trunk. I also believe that the picture that you are refering to taken after the car cleared the underpass: that is Agent Clint Hill's right foot protruding over the right side passenger door. Clint was only one of two agents in Dealey Plaza who reacted in the proper fashion according to his training.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 ive gone back and reviewed the photos its and i admit that its reasonable to say its hills foot .
fobrien1 1 month ago
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Israeli Mossad killed JFK,(Catholic) Israel got Nukes soon after,which He prevented.
JFK also pushed interest free Currency & Deescalating 'Nam, Jewry expanded War with Him Dead.
FINAL JUDGMENT book By Michael C. Piper was BANNED-Indicts Israel
Zapruder (a Jew),got to 'film' & made millions & (CIA/Mossad) could edit the film. Jack Ruby Rubenstein=Patsy
Jews promote/were behind Communism & run a Fascist Israeli state-Apartheid.
Israel=World capital of Organ,Arms,drug,Porn trafficking.
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 its quite gruesome (so beware if you come across it ) it shows two men being executed by a shot from a rifle in the back of the head ,both men are on there knees in a position simillar to a seated position but they are leaning a little forward simillar to jfk in the limo ,both men having been leaning slightly forward when hit and killed fell forward with gravity .neither man was sent violently backwards .
fobrien1 1 month ago
@fobrien1 I think that his forward attitude was through conscious physical exertion on his part. The head does move slightly forward upon impact of the 3rd shot. With loss of mind over matter after the impact the body fell back toward Jackie. Limo acceleration, not sure, jet effect of matter leaving the right front top of the head, not sure. neuro-spasm, not sure. Some of these things or all to some degree may have played a part in what we see on the film. This is theory on my part.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Skull bone is dense, and if the jacketed round hit at an angle of 25 degrees as suggested, it could fragment. Could, but not as likely. It should have exited the head somewhat squashed, but more or less intact. It would have driven matter forward (just like what did happen). The Dr.'s at Parkland were never in a position to critique the head wound. It is obvious from the film that the rear of the head, though fractured, remained intact and the front top of the head was blown out and forward.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Take Oswald's 2nd shot. (not literally) Nothing magic about the bullet found. The Carcano was perfectly capable of the wounds to Kennedy and Connally with the full metal jacket remaining intact. My problem to this day is Oswald's 3rd shot to the head. The metal jacket fragmented. If I were a conspiracy person today, this is where I would question the Warren Report. The round could indeed fragment upon skull impact, but is less likely than the probabilities offered by the Warren Report 2nd shot.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "Take Oswald's 2nd shot. (not literally) Nothing magic about the bullet found. The Carcano was perfectly capable of the wounds to Kennedy and Connally with the full metal jacket remaining intact"
the expert testimony within the warren commission vollumes /the witness who found it and the witness he showed it to / and the condition of the warren comissions own test bullets would disagree with you .
fobrien1 2 months ago
@fobrien1 Disagree as they might, the second shot conclusion is entirely plausable. Very likely when viewed in the light of the film. I have fired a Carcano round through 4 inches of solid oak, recovered the unflatened round and inserted it back into the empty shell casing from which it was fired. This is not the case with every round that I have tested, but there is no magic to Spector's (whom I despise) theory.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 did you fire the shot in a downward angle simillar to that of the 6th floor window ?.so your dismissing the warren commissions expert testimony /the witness who found the bullet and the witness he showed it to and the condition of the warren commissions test bullets .as hard as the commission tried the only test bullets they could produce with a condition which looked anything like ce399 were 2 bullets fired into cotton wadding .
fobrien1 2 months ago
@fobrien1 I demonstrated none of the above. My observations are based solely on my knowledge of the particular weapon, the round, and my own conclusion that the bullet could have penetrated JFK and Connelly and emerged looking pretty darn good. The fact that it was flattened at the base is part of the evidence as exhibited by the Warren Report.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "Disagree as they might, the second shot conclusion is entirely plausable"
of course a bullet can pass through 2 men so one can say its plausable .however the warren commissions own experts concluded based on the fragments /the bullet condidtion / the wounds that in the case of ce399 all tho possible it wasnt probable . dr humes when shown the fragments taken from connallys body ( and knowing fragments were left in connallys wrist and leg ) and ce399 -----------------------
fobrien1 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 said "i cant concieve of where the fragments came from on that missile" . a bullet can pass through 2 men (some are designed to do such a thing ) but in the case of jfk we have to consider the downward angle of entry /the slight upward angle of exit / its moving righward to connallys armpit /its moving leftward hitting the rib the wrist and lodging in the leg .so this bullet didnt simply pass directly through two men with no deflection .
fobrien1 1 month ago
@fobrien1 My belief (opinion mind you, not evidence) is that the direction changed only slightly after taking out Connelly's rib, then more dramatically so after impact with the wrist. It had lost considerable velocity at this point. I think that an alignment from the President's body to Connelly's is more probable than most people think. I myself did not always see this as probable. I made up my mind recently to start back with the basics. If conspiracy is in my future, I will visit it again.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
virgin
kinomuto 2 months ago
@kinomuto LOLZ Winning.
RoYalSmith93 2 months ago
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An Italian Turni 6.5 Carcano (regardless of Oliver Stone's/Kevin "Garrison" Costner's bullsh*t) is a formidable weapon after 50 years in the hands of an average shooter. I own one with the 4X18 Japanese offset Scope as mounted on Oswald's rifle. I have not had any Conspiracy Volunteers willing to stand downrange while I demonstrate 3 shots in under 8 seconds. The "truth" that you all "seek" is in the National Archives and within the volumes of the Warren Commission. This is called "evidence".
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
The witnesses on elm and on the overpass who "thought" there was a shooter, or shooters from the front were never able to testify that they actually saw anybody shoot Kennedy. Their testimony is not credible because it is unsubstantiated in any other way. There were no weapons or spent shells recovered from the overpass or the grassy knoll. There is NO evidence for conspiracy, while there is a staggering amount of evidence against Oswald as the lone gunman. This video is a gross distortion.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "The witnesses on elm and on the overpass who "thought" there was a shooter, or shooters from the front were never able to testify that they actually saw anybody shoot Kennedy"
so that they werent called to testify is an indication to you that their information was not reliable/credible ? and i guess nor were the 2 cops up there reliable or the people who lined elm street or officer joe smith who encountered a fake ss agent on the knoll ?.
fobrien1 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "Their testimony is not credible because it is unsubstantiated in any other way"
perhaps not with physical evidence such as a bullet but it is substantiated by other witnesses on elm street .but then the lack of bullet or a shell doesnt necessarily negate a bullet being fired does it ? what did the warren commission conclude about the tippit shells ?.
fobrien1 2 months ago
@fobrien1 Please understand that for many years I viewed this case from a Conspiratorial point of view. That is frustrating after nearly 50 years. I do have to consider it odd that after all this time no physical evidence has emerged. Only theory. This lends more weight to the Warren Commission where substantial evidence does indeed exist. I can't argue as to what people thought they saw of heard. I was a police officer myself for quite a number of years. I want the hard evidence these days.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 personally i dont care for theories and i dont have any theories i prefer to debate the case based on the facts /the evidence/documentation /witness testimony expert and otherwise etc .when i speak of the warren commission i dont mean the 880 page report i mean the warren commision testimonies etc in their entirety ,and having seen the conclussions i wonder did the people reaching the conclussions ever read or hear the actual testimonies .
fobrien1 2 months ago
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@BlueWolfe38 "There were no weapons or spent shells recovered from the overpass or the grassy knoll"
so by your reckoning spent shells and weapons are found at the scene of all shootings ?.
fobrien1 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "There is NO evidence for conspiracy, while there is a staggering amount of evidence against Oswald as the lone gunman"
there is evidence against oswald ,he was in the building at the time and no one saw him at 12.30 however i would dispute your staggering amount of evidence claim .
fobrien1 2 months ago
fobrien . . . Harris is basing his "theory" on the shape of the back of the head in frame 337. He is discounting the area covered by the 1st Lady's gloved right hand in this frame. Though the skull is shattered at this point there is no "ugly protrusion at the back of the head". This is a FACT. Not because I say so, but because it is supported by medical "evidence". (photographs and x-rays) You will never be able to provide "evidence" for a frontal shot because there was NO frontal shot. Sorry.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
Harris is totally "grasping at straws" with this video. The trouble is that to the casual observer he seems to make much out of illusion. Just before frame 313 the head moves forward. This movement is barely perceptable on the Zapruder film, but consistent with a shot from behind with the Carcano. All of the spatter is blown forward on the film. As Kennedy was sitting upright at the time and unsupported in the seat, the rest is physics. It is called "gravity". Sorry Conspiracy Folks !
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
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@BlueWolfe38 "As Kennedy was sitting upright at the time and unsupported in the seat"
jfk was leaning forward and to his left towards jackie at the time of the head shot .
fobrien1 2 months ago
This exercise is completely laughable. The author simply provides NO evidence to support this outrageous conclusion. If you are serious about assassination science, all of the ballistic and medical evidence is available online. No video, photograph, ballistic evidence, medical record or credible eyewitness testimony supports a shot from the front. The key to this hoax video is Jackie's white gloved right hand. Watch the Zapruder film and use the reasoning that God gave a Goose. Total Bullsh*t.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38 "No video, photograph, ballistic evidence, medical record or credible eyewitness testimony supports a shot from the front"
can you tell us why you deem the witnesses on elm or on the overpass to be not credible ?. or are you guilty of that which you accuse harris of "The author simply provides NO evidence to support this outrageous conclusion" some thing isnt so just because you say it isnt so .
fobrien1 2 months ago
I can't buy this. There is NO ugly protrusion at the back of the head. A moron could see that your outline does NOT account for Jackie's white glove at the back of his neck. The top right portion of his head has just been blasted away by LHO's 3rd shot. If you have sound ballistic or medical evidence to the contrary, please share it. The back of the head is intact and you are merely seeing what you want to see. Again, please provide evidence to support another lunatic conspiracy theory.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
it's funny as rational as people claim to be and smart as they pretend to be how they don't realize that there were more than one shooter, it's common sense if people would take a minute and rationalize it.
bullandbullets 2 months ago
Riding in a convertible was incredibly naive considering the controversial decisions his administration had made. I do not believe he could have done this without ever considering the possibility that he would be assassinated.
NFLWINNERS 2 months ago
thanks for the video but i've got a question that the final shot that killed kennedy was from Oswald gun or another person fire thee last shot?
farid1376 2 months ago
that poor woman.
it always reminds me of 9 11- in asmuch as surely it would be Jackie who could beyond any shadow of doubt say exactly what occured in that car and why? I assume she never spoke about it. It reminds me of 9 11 because i never see testemonies from survivors from close to the impact zone. i mean in all these event there were people who were actually right there.
MegaGum1 2 months ago
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"JFK was shot by a nun."
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screenwriterjohn 2 months ago
watch it again...THE FACIAL SHOT CAME FROM THE DRIVER...THAT'S WHEN JACKIE O TRIES TO SPLIT. ..RUNNING AWAY FROM WHERE SHE HEARD IT COME FROM..BUT THE AGENT STOPS HER
BHDread 2 months ago
@BHDread dude the driver didnt shoot
grffnchn65 2 months ago
@BHDread She wasn't trying to "split" she was gathering his brains. The very people he warned us about are the same assholes who did 911. The bushes should be kicked out of our country for they are the devil.
dakotajoman 2 months ago
Actually, he had to have been shot MULTIPLE TIMES; the throat wound, the head & of course the back WOUNDS.
ChrisCrossdresser 2 months ago
yeah to your first point about the blown out portion of kennedy's skull, it's called an exit wound bro....
mattgunner25 2 months ago
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Frames of the Zapruder film were removed prior to release for public viewing.
If you watch closely, EVERYONE in the vehicle moves briefly forward just prior to the fatal shot. Why? Because, even as many witnesses reported, the driver abruptly stopped the vehicle during the shooting.
Notice, too, that the vehicle was in the right lane, but departed after the head shot from the left lane. Here, also, a witness reported the driver not only stopped but veered to the left as he did.
shortist2003 2 months ago
who was hiting his wife at the back of the car when she was grabing the part of his skull
smellmyfart1000 2 months ago
@smellmyfart1000 that was a secret service agent called Clint Hill, and he wasnt hitting her he was removing her hand off the trunk and telling her to stay down in case of further shooting.
m1994z 2 months ago
one conspiracy that aloud you to get more research without every becoming hungry..
hitman1502 2 months ago
You have a good point most people have no proof of where the projectile went in and then exited u dont acuse anyone (Driver) see its impossile to shoot someone and the entrance is on the far side of the head if ur in the car it had to have been a by-stander or someone in the buildings my guess a highered gun man my ''guess'' oswald u should do some research on oswald and racial discrimination history or possibly police records if ur able to get that type of information.
austinaProductions 2 months ago
LEZ NOT ASSASSINATE KENNEDY AGAIN . this video is well done! hit in the head twice
one from behind and one from the storm drain! fact!
TheANTIGONE3 2 months ago
NO FINGERPRINT OF OSWALD WERE EVER FOUND ON THE RIFLE
MALLICHEN CARCANO! IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL ANYBODY WITH THAT RIFLE, MAYBE OUT OF BS NOT OUT OF BLLTS ... FACT.
TheANTIGONE3 2 months ago
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there was no finger prints... it was a palm print. oswald was not arrested or tried for kennedy's murder.. oswald shot and killed a police officer thats why he was arrested but before he could be tried for either of the crimes he was murdered by jack ruby 2 days later...
Kevin335is 2 months ago
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Kevin335is 2 months ago
so what was it that Jackie grabbed when she climbed up to the trunk of the car?
hcoalex 2 months ago
@hcoalex She was trying to grab a piece of JFK's skull...
SomeMightSay26 2 months ago 2
@hcoalex part of Jfks skull
wampaAWESOMEsauce 2 months ago
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conspiracydog11 2 months ago
i like you work ,, but i don't agree with it
amfsmg 2 months ago
If anyone suggests that Oswald was set up, how the hell did they get his finger prints on the gun and boxes, ok he worked there so finger prints on the boxes are a possibility, i was never entirely sure what to think until i watched "the kennedy detail" (discovery channel) there's a black guy who who as a child was below and opposite Oswald looking up at him and saw a rifle shoot three times, his appearance on the documentary is the first time hes ever spoke about it since it happened.
cheersing4u 2 months ago
When Ruby shot Oswald nobody was expecting it, he jumped out of the crowd holding a small "easy for concealment" type of pistol. Oswald may have not been able to walk out of the building with a rifle stuffed down his pants with all the police alerted looking a shooter, so leaving it on the top floor out of the way would have been a good enough temporary hiding place, maybe to return and clean up later, but that's just an assumption.
cheersing4u 2 months ago
Jeese this is SO numb. Obviously hydraulic shock. Go on and believe your conspiracies. It was a different and more lax time period. They even distributed flyers to show the prez's path he'd take 3 days early. It's hard to believe just one fascist idiot could do all that. But in this day and age, haven't we seen that one man can do even more terrible things than shoot one president. No "big conspiracy" here. Go on believing it though -you know you WANT TO....
jdseams 2 months ago
@jdseams If you smash a window the shards of glass will fall on the opposite side form where it was hit,,, the same goes for sculls and bullets.
Hydraulic Shock,,,,, ridiculous!
The formula that to predict hydraulic shock is
pressure = volicity(((SG-1)/2)C + C)
I suppose you would try to dismiss the damage to the front temple under the same guise,,,,,,,,,,? Please do shear with us your masterful wisdom!
orrinoconnor 2 months ago
three bullet casings where found where Oswald was, the gun was found with his finger prints on, boxes with his finger prints on that he had moved to take the shots, most importantly there was a witness that was looking up at the window and saw Oswald fire three times, this witness is still alive, watch "the kennedy detail"
cheersing4u 2 months ago
@cheersing4u Is Amos Euins the person you are referring to? If so from his report March 10, 1964. [Repeats what he related in Dallas Police Affidavit except Euins is not sure that the man he saw was white or black (2H208) and he heard 4 shots (2H204).]
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
there was one shooter only, Oswald, watch "the kennedy detail" a very good documentary which explains Oswald fired three shots the first one called "the missing bullet" as Oswald was scoping the president and fired just as a traffic light passed and hit it, second bullet hit JFK in the back of the neck passed through and injured the front passenger also, bullet number three hit JFK in the back of the head killing him. please note that note all exit wounds are large like this video assumes.
cheersing4u 2 months ago
@cheersing4u Impossible, The trajectory of the 3rd bullet proves that whoever fired the second shot did not fire the 3rd. 1st and second shot came from the book depository and the 3rd kill shot from the grassy bank.
Also it has been proved that Oswald could not of fired all 3 shots because of the time it takes to eject the spent bullet casing from the rifle and fire again.
JFK was not hit at the back of the head. He was hit on the right of his head. Look at the killshot again.
JasonHarry37 2 months ago
@JasonHarry37 yeah i've watched it many times, the bullet trajectory is only an assumption and is not evidence. (no offence) *an entry wound can be bigger than an exit wound* the fact that jfk's head falls back as if the bullet has pushed it back with inertia is too delayed, the bullet was traveling so fast and rifle bullets are sharp tipped no inertia would have been present, that kinda stuff in only in the movies, his head is just simply flops back dead.
cheersing4u 2 months ago
@cheersing4u If you don't mind me asking what is your opinion on what happened?
Do you think Oswald was the only shooter? Why was Jack Ruby allowed to so easily shoot Oswald?
A gun, 3 spent cartridges and Oswalds prints everywhere. Why didnt he make more effort to discard the gun/spent bullet casing and wear gloves like assasin's normally do?
JasonHarry37 2 months ago
@cheersing4u But what if the shot did come from the front? What if it was a big, slow, subsonic .45 cal hollow point? A hollow point does transfer a lot more energy to the target than a FMJ does. I think the results would be similar to what we see in the Zapruder film.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
Rest In Peace to J.F.K. .
RTE4EVER 2 months ago
JFK R.I.P
THEsyntheticFresh 2 months ago
This guy is an idiot. There is no ugly protrusion at the back of Kennedy's head. Its merely that the part of his head below the "ugly protrusion" is obscured by Jackie Kennedy's gloved hand. Also the height of Kennedy's head from ear to crown has not decreased, the angle has simply changed because he is slumping forward and to his left.
TheGalen62 2 months ago
1st shot hit passenger and passed through the seat and got jfk in the throat ..can be seen on footage ,,they both jump from the bullet and the paasenger begins to show pain then the head shot.
211for11 3 months ago
There were more than 2 shots. How about 3 teams positioned behind, side and front of JFK. Nat Geo LIES.
BookerT48 3 months ago
everyone in the car knew what was going to happen, the driver fired the first bullet.
rusromans1 3 months ago