What is a story that gives you hope for the Church?

[jme1976]

Was the gospel preached, was sin preached was Gods holy law preached....sadly I doubt it.

'Faith enterprise' What is that!!

[celticphox]

Well, it seems to me that there was mention of relationship, the archbishop and the baptist, as well as the church to teh community it was in. Christ valued community and relationship as a vehicle for teaching. And then about 1:55 he mentiones service to a community, again, a principle of Christ, to seek out and serve before, himself, being served and recognized as the Son of Man. Relationship... service... Christ. You may extrapolate if you are able to listen, God's Love/grace was preached.

[jme1976]

All this mess has occurred because he/they the church of England has not stuck to its biblical principles. Every time I hear clergy on the radio or TV they fail to mention scripture when confronted with problems within the church, 'women bishops, homosexual clergy and now I've heard of a 'Broad church'??? being mentioned. When Jesus actually preached the way is NARROW.

[marnanel]

"Broad church" is a metaphor. "The narrow way" is a metaphor. They are not metaphors for the same thing.

[jme1976]

Jesus didn't use metaphors He means what He means when He said broad is the way to hell, ie its easy. But narrow is the way to heaven, ie its hard. He tells us if we stick up for him we will be persecuted.

Watch what happens as the CoE employ current thinking and political correctness rather than sticking to the faith they started out on 400 years ago.

[marnanel]

So you really think that when Jesus said "broad is the way" he was talking about a physical road that's very wide? Like, you know, an eight-lane interstate or something, and it goes to heaven? Otherwise, he was using metaphors. In fact, if you say "Jesus didn't use metaphors", I have to wonder if you've ever read the Gospels.

I think this discussion is getting rather pointless since neither of us will agree, so I suppose we should leave it here.

[marnanel]

..."and it goes to hell". There should be editable comments here.

[xpo50]

The faitht hey started 400 years ago was Catholicism with a funky new name. At least now its actually keeping some bits of Catholicism and bits of Protestantism

[clarkbailey1973]

@marnanel exactly

[clarkbailey1973]

@jme1976 I've heard many Anglicans speak out against those things...

[jme1976]

@clarkbailey1973

Oh yes many do. Sadly however, their leader has decided not to speak up for the faith he professess.

What I say I say in humbleness, knowing that we ALL fall short but for the grace of God in Jesus.

[snotbog1]

Yeah, gosh, stories, conversation couches, candles, questions, post-modern, that's so yesterday, I mean, come on. That was happening 5 years ago. Move on. Buntch of conformists doing dry rituals. That's old now. Now it's all about ughh, seeing shapes in arm pit hair while half asleep. YEAH That's the new thing now. No more conversation, just complete utter nonsense. In fact, words are out too, randomkjbjs;k bsd csm sj:ksj vjewjirjna;dfk yeah, great, God help us and you.........

[snotbog1]

It's a tongue-in cheek (I'm sure they have a new word for that expression as well) reponse to the whole post-modern Emergent thing. Churches are jumping on board with this crap so that they can bring in the younger generation that wants to stay "current". The irony is that the whole Emergent approach is so shallow that the concept itself is no longer "current". Today's philisophical thought rejects much of this post-modern thinking that occured some 100 or so years before the church adopted it.