This is such a silly video. The only people who support three person marriages are extreme right-wing Christians such as the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints. And by the way their is plenty of support for three person marriages in the bible
The point is that so many people are saying that gay people getting married is going to ruin the sanctity of marriage as that one guy said its already fucked up This world doesn't even know what the sanctity of marriage is If you asked someone what it was they probably couldn't tell you Marriage should be between two people who love each other And people who say things like "I want to marry my dog I love him and he loves me" should think realistically and not try to make some irrelevant point
3-4 guys? That's called polygamy, not plural marriage.
That's when you marry several times, but each time to another person.
If you asked me that question in that video, I'd advise you to get some education.
Oh and btw, when gay people say marriage they don't mean marriage in church OBVIOUSLY, but they mean marriage under law, in which they can share all their property and if one of them dies, the spouse inherits all of it. Like in heterosexual marriage, but without church, just the legal part.
@mickeypopa That's not exactly true. Not all gay people want be JUST legally married. There are a lot of gay people who do want to be married by the church. Jus t because you are gay does not mean you don't have your faith. Trust me i should know :P
Well, that is just pointless and silly. Faith is poison for the mind. But in any case, why the heck would homosexuals even be members (let alone ask for a "blessing") of a religion that despises (I'm not actually overstating the sentiment) homosexuals as a matter of course?
To me, that sounds like they're just being "the drama queen".
If it was up to me, I'd abolish the church wedding entirely. Actually, I'd abolish the religions all together, but that's another cup of tea.
Again, there you go showing off...with your massive ignorance and extremism, no less.
Atheism is NOWHERE near anarchy. Even though anarchy is NOWHERE near chaos, that you're probably referring to.
Atheism is a lack of belief in an imaginary God without evidence.
Anarchy is a state of society without rulers or governments (which doesn't necessary means chaos; there are different forms of anarchism part of which fundamentally oppose violence).
But all that doesn't have SHIT to do with incest. Having sexual relations with relatives is something NO ONE approves of, religious or not. Why? Because it's bad idea genetically. And because it's your family, not sexual partners.
Gay marriage doesn't have SHIT to do with all this. So why are you talking bullshit and unrelated nonsense?
You think if you say "what if someone wants to marry his sister" everyone will just grovel in shame like you know what you're blabbing about?
@mickeypopa no one approves????? are u fucking kidding me???? inbred hicks isn't a result of a man raping his sister or cuzin. it's CONSENTUAL incest.
Inbred hicks? Watching too many movies a la "Wrong turn"?
When did you last meet an inbred man or woman in person?
Are you talking from your personal experience?
Second: Anarchy does NOT mean chaos. You need to learn more about both to be able to tell them apart.
Third: Atheism has no moral law? Haha you're a funny guy.
News flash for you - human morality is hardwired in our brains by evolution, not by Bible, just in case you're confused. And atheism is not a sociopathic disorder.
Even gay men wouldn't want to marry their brothers or gay women their sisters.
So what the FUCK does your stupid statement have to do with this video?
Incest is considered bad by society because now we know about genetics and high risk of genetic mutations involved for inbred children which eventually leads to inbreeding depression (look it up, ignorant moron).
And that's ONLY in case of men and women, because only in that case procreation is possible, in case you missed it. LOL
And one last thing: since you're a dumb homophobic ass not capable of using that little brain you have, why don't you think about this - brother and sister CAN marry IN CHURCH WITH "HIS" BLESSING. All they have to do is falsify their personal information. So it's easy, especially in Vegas.
In Rhode Island and New Jersey incest is not even illegal (consensual & over 18).
And that STILL doesn't have ANYTHING to do with GAY marriage.
You do realize that GAY is man/man or woman/woman?
Incest, homosexuality and pedophilia are all natural forms of sexuality, for your information. All these types of sexual behavior are pretty common in nature.
Just because humans are able to use their brains and break free of the laws of nature doesn't mean that something is unnatural just because Bible says so.
Like I said, we are humans with an evolved brain and evolved social interactions.
Brutality and homicidal behavior falls under sociopathic disorder, and of course I DON'T approve of it because it's harmful for out society. But it does happen nevertheless. Grow the fuck up, Mr. Righteous.
And why are you changing the subject to anti-social behavior now?
I'll tell you why - you've been served, and now you can't handle it.
And no, homosexuality doesn't have anything to do with incest or pedophilia.
Are you that stupid? Since when it's mandatory for gay people to have sex with their underage brothers or sisters? Man, you are in dire need of some education on the subject.
Last thing: "In some countries it's ok for a grown man to get married to young girls?" - Yes, in countries governed by religious law-Islamic countries. Some morality, eh? Religion is arrogant and full of shit, like you.
@mickeypopa how hard is it for u to understand that if all morality (in your view) is circumstantial then u can't stop a 30 yr old man from marrying a 14yr old boy who "loves him" back.
and if u think that's stupid I'd beg to differ.
It'd be foolishness to think that teenage homos don't fantasize about older men.
nor could u stop them if they wanted to add their brother into the mix.
By the way, pedophilia (however it may happen in nature) is totally unacceptable in humans, because it always involves sexually immature children and sexually mature adults, which, of course, causes harm to children and it's never consensual unlike homosexuality and incest, which may be.
I haven't really read much on the subject of bestiality to be able to discuss it, but I guess it falls under animal abuse, so I definitely don't approve of it, as I don't pedophilia and incest.
Homosexuality, incest and pedophilia (for example bonobos and stoats) are all NATURAL types of sexual behavior (as in - found in nature).
Humans have an evolved brain with which we are able to learn about and exclude types of sexual behavior detrimental to our society created by our evolved social interactions.
I don't approve of pedophilia, incest or bestiality.
I do approve of homosexuality as long as it doesn't involve previous 3 types or rape.
@mickeypopa if everything is circumstantial and there is no right or wrong, then evils such as torture which is unique among humans is perfectly fine.
it's simply man's way (which he learn through evolution) of extracting information from indivisuals. which some in use during time of war.
I honestly agree with the first girl that talked. Marriage belongs to the church. But i think marriage shouldnt count for shit. We need a whole new system that allows for whoever to be joined legally without some stupid ceremonie.
But thats alot of work, idrc. Gay people deserve everything us straight people have.
@baezalejandro Exactly! With a new system you could marry a goat or anything else that either can not give consent or will not give it. It's perfect.
No. Thats not what I was refering to. I was meaning the consentual joining of two adults. Goats don't enter into it and I hope you are intellecually honest enough to realize that.
@MichaelHasNoFriends i hope your intellectually honest to realize that political correctness will allow any act to become law out of fear of offending.
@minteko Did not evolution occur and Adam and Eve is some myth that a random person would pass through generations which somehow led into the Bible? I believe in God and I am a Christian but...Look at the facts Evolution happened.
ok the interviewer obv didnt like some of the opened minded answers "wat is 3 guys wanted to get married?".. i havent seen a guy marry 2 women in america, so wen that happens then he can ask his bullshit question.
This idiot interviewer keeps asking 'What do you think of 3 guys getting married legally?' Then he goes to the fine example, well..'Most people know marriage as something between a man and a woman, so why not 3 men being able to get married?..
..Umm..When was a man legally allowed to marry two women in America? DUmb ass?Plain and simple..homophobes..get over yourself..you wont wake up gay one day if two guys who already are together get legally married. Fucking corn fed redneck inbreeds lol!
wow i cant believe that first girl said she was thought marriage should be between a man and a woman!! I wonder if it was a 100yrs ago she would think voting is between a ballot and a man???
what i got from this video was an ironic confession...people saying gay marriage is ok, but an inbred marriage between a man and a woman...the same people saying if they love each other its ok, but saying no, its morally not right for a brother and sister to get married....un-fucking-believable how stupid some people are...this video is brilliant, i never considered that perspective.
Some of these people have IQ less than a 100. Dumb Mother fuking assholes. "Its thier choice bullshit". Next thing you know, they are going to have animal and human marriage. Gays and bisexuals need to be condmned on sight. So what if a few decide to take thier own life, its better than them spreading like a disease
being gay is stupid. If everyone in the world was gay there would be no human race. u might aswell walk around chopping dicks off and replacing them with strap on dildo's
he was talking about the moral decisions we make on marriage and then people turn around and call people biggots for upholding a moral stance that might hurt peoples feelings.
"Gay Marriage", No!!! marriage was and has always been a sacrament between a man and a women, however as said in this video "it is your life, so you can do as you please" meaning you can date or be together, but not trash a traditional value. SUPPORT GAY PRIDE, BUT NOT GAY MARRIAGE.
or a man marrying a cow, or a sheep. or what about a woman marrying another woman and a man and a horse! i mean its ppls life, they can do whatever, whatever...whatever, u know?
uhmm ok they told those in the vid so wat ever juss pay attention next time :] so yeah who cares its there life no matter how weird it is to me or other ppl and i got no right to say anything its not effecting my life so i dont care
3-way marriage would mean a financially easier life for the 3 people, which seems unfair to me.
Already, couples are able to save money on rent, mortgage, all sorts of living expenses than single people are. And with plural marriages, we will experience "couplism" in addition to the already existing "singlism".
Implicit argument by following Red Herrings to Slippery Slopes. Shameful.
Ya know, not two minutes ago, on a hunch, I investigated a quote from a Christian's channel (who fav'ed this) that had one of the Founding Fathers (P. Henry) claiming this was a Christian nation (giving others religious liberty because we're nice Christians.) As I suspected, it was both plastered all over the web, and utter bullshit.
Why is it these "champions of morality" are so often lacking in simple integrity?
VEPZ yeah that claim, and hitler was an Atheist. Are fallacious claims that STILL continue to be perpetuated to this day by X-tians. It's get pretty old having to clear those up.
I think the issue here and not saying I agree or Disagree on the Subject of gay marrage is this. you want the line to be where you want it...that just because you think that the Incent marriage is illage then you should also be against Gay marriage is just a non-sequre. I could make the same argument againt against Hetro Marriages since by your argument as stated in this is that it "Could" lead into Homo then to Incest and so forth.
if you think about it what would be so wrong if a brother and a sister love each other ... if they wouldn't have any children ... i can't find anything wrong with that ... imagine they would have been separeted on their birth then they met each other without knowing the other one is his brother her sister... and they fall an love... I can't find anything wrong with that >.> ..
I want to marry my pet dog! I love him and he loves me, why can't the world accept who we are? I just want to be happy and live my life with my dog as my partner. Why are people telling me how to live my life? I should be free to do what I want, this is America.
Why are they comparing incestuous and polygamous marriage to homosexual marriage when most cases of incest and polygamy are committed by heterosexuals? Shouldn't we be more worried about straight marriage being between brothers/sisters and more than one person?
Not to hate on straight people, but... this argument is completely off base. I don't even understand the parallel.
The point is if you accept homosexuality as "ok", then you have to accept ANYTHING and EVERYTHING else that is a sexual perversion. There is no normal moral standard if you accept homosexuality, and sodomy.
Most psychiatrists and scientists have accepted it as something as normal and natural as eye color. There's also cases of homosexuality in other species.
However, if you want to take that route -- fine. Laws aren't based on "moral" standards. There's a separation of church and state for a reason. Polygamists can't marry more than one person because of legal issues. Incest is illegal for medical reasons. It's not about "perversion".
Who are you to say that someone can't marry as many wives, or husbands as they want ? Who are you say that people can't have sex with children, who are you to determine who can have relations with their bothers or sisters or cousins ? You see you are disenfranchising all these other peoples wants, but for you it means nothing. Now you understand how straights feel about your wants. It is a perversion, just because a few say it isn't doesn't make it so.
Homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy and pedophilia! Just as polygamy has nothing to do with pedophilia! It's like apples and oranges. Some people would also agree that sex before marriage is a moral issue and a perversion -- or sex without the purpose of producing children. "A few" don't say homosexuality isn't a perversion, honey -- millions do. More do every day, especially the younger generation. Lucky for us, your kind is dying out.
Like I said already and will say again, very few educated doctors and psychiatrists/psychologists consider homosexuality abnormal, so your definition of "perversion" still doesn't (to me) reflect homosexuality.
Sex "by design" can also happen between siblings and cousins, which was considered normal about a hundred years ago -- but not now. Times change. Homosexuality has gone back and forth from being "normal" to not. You have no right to declare it as normal or abnormal.
Somehow you are attempting to use the excuse of another wrong to justify the wrong of homosexuality. What does incest have to do with making homosexuality right ? Sex between anyone related is clearly wrong, but two guys or two girls that are unrelated, you whole heartedly endorse!? Odd thinking that, it would appear you simply don't want to be wrong, and so you attempt to make a wrong right through rationalization and justification.
I am not attempting to justify homosexuality by other wrongs. YOU are attempting to CONDEMN homosexuality by other wrongs. There is no comparison, as you have stated so nicely yourself.
What does incest/polygamy have to do with making homosexuality wrong? Nothing.
Homosexuality is not "wrong" just because the Bible says it is. It states a lot of things as "wrong" that are common practices in our society today.
If you support or practice homosexuality, you have no morals. You can't support something that is a perversion and be a moral person, it is a contradiction. You can make the argument that pedophilia is "ok" and that everyone needs to stay out of "your business" but as a society we have to draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not.Homosexuality is a perverted act. You try to cloud the issue and confuse the feeble minded.Fact is fact no matter what angle you try to present.
I support and practice homosexuality, and I have several morals. There isn't a black and white world. Your judgment is you throwing stones from a glass house -- judging is also "wrong" -- therefore, you're not a moral person either. Your arguments make no sense.
Pedophilia isn't acceptable because children are involved, and children can't give their consent, you nitwit. That's an understandable "line" to draw.
You are the only feeble-minded person. Who are you to say what is right and wrong?
I'm not saying what's right or wrong. I'm not the one trying to ban anything as right or wrong; I'm not the judgmental one.
You don't have morality on your side. You have no place to say what's moral and what's not. Are you really that arrogant to think that YOU know what's moral? Over another human being who is no more or less divine than you?
Are you aware that masses of voters also kept slaves from getting married, and kept slavery intact for decades? Majority DOES NOT EQUAL right.
No amount of evidence is going to convince you homosexuality is wrong. You will discount and discard all evidence that contradicts your point of view in favor of fragmented half-truth scraps that give the illusion of supporting your lifestyle and beliefs. You are the victim of your own deception, and the lies that those you surround yourself with help perpetuate. I pity your circumstance.
Funny, that sounds exactly like what you're doing. :) Luckily for us, your narrow-minded beliefs are dying out. More and more people accept homosexuality, and that's not going to change. People become more tolerant as time goes by -- it's never the other way around.
There you go as is typical of homosexuals trying to play victim, and tie your struggle to the civil rights movement.
Homosexuals are not even in the same ballpark as civil rights. Slavery should never have been in this country, and has nothing to do with people who want the right to sodomize each other under the title of marriage.
You can make the same arguments to a police officer, or a judge about the law.
First you call me a victim and then you say I'm trying to play a victim? Make up your mind. I don't see myself as a victim. Homosexuality is tied into the civil rights movement because it is also a civil rights movement.
Are you aware that straight people often sodomize each other? Perhaps you should try it. It might loosen you up.
You brought up the bible, not me. Since you did, why do you pick and choose what you condemn and embrace ? That seems to be hypocritical.
All condemned acts in the bible: pedophilia, bestiality homosexuality, murderer, thievery are condemned for eternal spiritual reasons, and for the terrestrial protection of the perpetrator and the victim.
Personal attacks are your last resort when you can't beat the argument.
I don't embrace anything from the Bible. I don't believe in it. I was just working from your stance, since you can't give me any scientific or proven reason why homosexuality is "wrong." Pedophilia and incest can be disputed scientifically -- that sort of argument is understandable. However, your stance on homosexuality being immoral has no basis in my mind. Please explain.
No. I'm not making that claim. I'm simply saying that it's not WRONG. Not everything is black and white, as I've said over and over. Learn to live in a gray world and you'll be much happier.
Mytime, Polygamy has nothing to do with same sex marriage. Marriage is still devoting your love to one person. You can't fully give yourself to more then one person in a marriage, it just isn't possible. Secondly, brothers and sisters who wish to marry could still have the ability to marry someone who isn't blood related to them. meaning they have the ability to marry, just not within their family; Homosexuals do not because they will continually love someone of the same sex, which is unfair
Homosexuality is an abnormality. If there is an abnormality, it should be corrected through research, testing, and a comprehensive plan that delivers measurable and predictable results. If you don't label something as abnormal, you can't develop a cure and that is where we are at the moment. Homosexuals are loathsome towards those that renounce homosexuality and return to being "straight" If being with the opposite sex is straight, then wouldn't that make being gay "crooked"?
mytimeisnigh, you are so stupid. There is no cure for homosexuality; Similarly, who are you to classify it as an abnormaility? Maybe you should pick up a book or read articles on homosexuality before you try to give lectures to people. If you don't like gay people leave them the hell alone, but don't try and preach your bigotry to them and don't try and fix what doesn't need fixing.
You buy into the falsehood of a few scraps of research that don't come to any proven conclusion. You have the notion that education is tied to being gay tolerant.You have little perspective.I have education,but I think homosexuality is wrong.You have an opinion,I disagree with it,does that make you stupid,or a nitwit? Addicts,pedophiles,etc are often in denial they have a problem needing correction.Live your life how you want, keep your lifestyle choices out of the laws that govern the majority.
But the law that matters doesn't govern the majority, it governs the minority. Why should the majority vote on a law against the minority?
Homosexuality was disputed as being a disease and an abnormality years ago. You must be uneducated -- or do you only disagree with experts? It's fine if you do, of course, but you must also understand that you will be hard-pressed to find strong backing. Unless, of course, you go to Fred Phelps. Look him up, he seems like your type of guy.
Where did you get this so called education you claim to have? Maybe you would have heard that the majority isn't threatened by the minority; However,the minority needs protection from the majority in the foundations encompassed by a democracy."a few scraps of research that don't come to any proven conclusion" so clearly you haven't read any of the articles or else you would have learned something from them. Addicts and pedophiles suffer from mental ailments: homosexuals do not. get over yourself
Frohbs:No bigotry here or hate, just truth.You are 21, I doubt you have your GED let alone higher education. I have an advanced degree and have worked for several household name firms in a Director and VP capacity.You can't refute the truth, and the truth is homosexuality is a perversion by definition.You have the sense of a gnat, but you may grow a brain in a decade or so.Keep your chin up and keep marinating in the pool of delusions you and the sycophants you surround yourself with perpetuate.
I've already graduated from college prick. Who are you to undermine my education? Your past work experience doesn't prove that you are intelligent; you're words and hate only prove that you are a close minded biggot. I find it funny that you actually make the argument that I refute truth when your beliefs goes against what has been proven by science: aka truth. I'm glad that people with your mindset are a dying breed.
Frohbs:No bigotry here or hate, just truth.You are 21, I doubt you have your GED let alone higher education. I have an advanced degree and have worked for several household name firms in a Director and VP capacity.You can't refute the truth, and the truth is homosexuality is a perversion by definition.You have the sense of a gnat, but you may grow a brain in a decade or so.Keep your chin up and keep marinating in the pool of delusions you and the sycophants you surround yourself with perpetuate.
You will find many more physicians, psychologists, etc that will say it is unnatural. The problem is you fail to see that if you accept homosexuality, you have to accept any and all sexual abnormality otherwise you exclude and subject everyone else to the very victimization you complain homosexuals are suffering. You can't have it both ways. There is either moral ground and you take a stand, or you open the door to anything and everything. It's all or nothing, tradition, or anything goes.
You can't clump things together that way. That's narrow-minded and inaccurate. I have not met one educated physician that will say homosexuality is unnatural. Please, find me one who isn't influenced by the church -- who grounds his beliefs in facts.
Those are black and white rules you're preaching, which gives no room for progression in our country, society, or way of life.
Here is the solution to the entire problem: remove all financial/taxation advantages of marriage and then marriage becomes what it originally was: A religious ceremony. Then you can go and marry a goat and it doesn't matter anymore.
Nowhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution is preservation of tradition cited as a power or intention of our government. There is no constitutional basis for denying gay couples marriage, and every constitutional reason why our government should actively pursue legalizing gay marriage in order to give gay men and lesbians their rights as equal citizens of the United States and to ensure their inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness that every American is guaranteed.
First off do me a favor and look up the definition of "marriage" in the dictionary and then get back to me.
Second, the entire "marriage" idea is purely a religious commitment anyway! you can make that same commitment WITHOUT a priest anyway. It's purely culteral.
Homosexiality is just plain freaky anyway. Go back to school and get off YouTube.
WELL IF IT "PURELY A RELIGIOUS commitment" thn no more tax breaks or joint health insurance benefits for married people. Afterall we do have separation of church and state. Either everyone gets the same benfits or noone does.... Equality can not exist when one group does not have an option to beome equal to another. We all know the definition of marriage moron... that is not what we are arguing about.
Everything has to be equal? Very Socialist approach you have. This country was founded on Christian priniciples. The seperation of Church and State is to prevent one church from having athority over the government and has nothing to do with a government agreeing with moral and there for Biblical views.
As a matter of fact, notice I say fact, this country definitely has freedom of religion, not freedom of Christian religion. All of us are entitled to moral beliefs, but we must be very careful to be consistent with the "separation of Church and State," or better, "draw the line."
Thomas Jefferson, sound familiar?, wrote for the Virgina Legislature the Statutes on Religious Freedom, that called for religious freedom for ALL religions,Christian, Buddhist, Islam, Hindu, Judaism, etc. Now is Jefferson socialist? (not enough space, lol)
Yes, look up Public Law 97:280 in US Code, and then let these fools tell you that the gospel of Jesus Christ has nothing to do with America. These people are so wicked.
Marriage is about your commitment to God between a husband and wife. Thats how its written in the Bible. Thats where the term marriage comes from, not the Constitution. If you don't believe in the bible, or its teachings, why would you want to be "married" then anyway? Marriage is a biblical term, go get a Civil Union and be happy with your gay self.
This is a classic scare tactic.... NOONE IS ASKING FOR 3 or 4 people to get married. And to draw a comparison between incest and homosexuals is just plain rediculous. Marriage is a union between two people - thats a given. DO Not let the religious right wings distract you from the issue people. The constitution is CLEAR EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE. Not just christians and not just heterosexuals.
I suggest you brush up your history my friend. The constitution WAS written after religious upbringing... "In God We Trust...."
"In this year of our Lord 1776, we the People"
Oh by the way this video DOES talk about multiple partners.. just in case you were too dense to understand that. This country WAS founded purely on Christian principles.
"I suggest you brush up your history my friend." That is a classic text isolation tactic that concervative chrisitians are notorious for doing to manipulate the masses. The fact is that Thomas Jefferson saw the issues of religion and created the jefferson bible... a collection of many differant areas of the bible ... he excluded the "miracles" because he thght them to be false. He believed Jesus to be as human as any other man but thght him to be a man of great character.
Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism (the term "Nature's God" used by deists of the time). With his scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (see The Jefferson Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus.
Distortions of history occur in the minds of many Christians whenever they see the word "God" embossed in statue or memorial concrete Those who visit the Jefferson Memorial in Washington will read Jefferson's words engraved "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man" When they see the word God many Christians seethis as "proof" ofhis Christianity without thinking that "God" can have manydefinitions ranging from nature to supernatural
If they get the gay marriage passed thats the next thing to ask for. Then after multiple weddings and incest comes marriages to your favorite dog or cat. Have you seen how people treat their dogs better than their own children?
You are making an ignorant comparison. Homosexuality is not a perversion like incest or beastiality. If marriage is just a religious ceremony thn the government has no reason for providing benefits to married couples. It is those benefits that people are fighting for not just the word. Marriage is a symbol of a bond between two people. Gay people deserve pensions,social security benefits, tax breaks (just to name a few) for thr partners civil unions do not provide thaose "benefits".
Actually homosexuality IS a perversion, that is the fundamental difference in our thinking mike. It is not "normal" to have sexual relations with a person of the same sex. There for it is a perversion of the act of sex which is about procreation. (Please don't get into the "what about people who are barren" discussion, because you know exactly what I mean). As far as benefits- they can get those through civil unions.
I agree we have a fundamental differance of opinion. Homosexuality is "normal" and "natural". I disagree that sex is solely for procreation... Sex is also about experiencing a heightened level of intimacy with your partner. It can create a deeper more meaningful bond between two people. Benefits offered to persons in a civil union are NOT the same as those given to married couples. If they were, we would not be having this arguement.
Sex is by design meant to be between a man and a woman, that is undeniable. Therefore anything else is a perversion by the very definition of the word. Intimacy meant to be shared during sex is only intended between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is perverse, and wrong, and you and every other person that promotes the act is wrong. Trying to make what is clearly wrong right is insanity. You don't want to be wrong so you try to make the act right, rather than curb your behavior.
This has to be the most hypocritical movie for pro gay marriage people ever. They accept gay marriage between 2 guys or 2 women, but not 3 guys or 3 women, or incest(even if the Brother and sister are sterile). And their reason for not accepting it? Because it's morally wrong. LOL. They ping Religious supporters for their use of the term morality and yet they use it as their excuse for these other marriages to not be legalized? What a joke. I've never laughed so hard in my life. Hypocrits. LOL!!
Such hypocrisy. They say marrying your brother or sister is immoral. So where do morals come from? God. What exactly does the faith of the Jewish people, Christian people, Muslim people all say about Homosexuality? It's IMMORAL. The one girl is so funny about "brother and sister", she says it's biologically wrong. In the sacred union of man & woman, they biologically fit together perfectly, and in that perfect union, they make babies. Let's call it for what it REALLY is. Deviant sexuality
This is how it works. The main reason to get married is because you get benefits from the Gvmn't as a couple. The reason Gvmn't gives you benefits is because they want to encourage a procreative foundation for civilization. Marriage also promotes monogamy children are better off in a home with 2 committed parents.
Conversely, sterile heterosexual couples are not kept from getting married, and as technology advances a same-sex couple could have a baby. Its not just semantics & religion.
Whenever you see an "s" where a "z" should be, the person writing is European. They were most likely not raised in the U.S. and put down OUR value system any chance they get. Some don't even live in the U.S. they just like to sway OUR elections.
That's what O-bah-ma's sheep in the "world community" do all day...sit around patting themselves on the back, full of self-righteous pride for helping us "stupid Americans" see the error of our ways.
What's the point of this video? So if we don't stop 2 guys getting married now, sooner or later there's going to be some guy trying to marry his dog? Oh my God, when will it end? This guys is a dumb ass whose kid will probably be gay. haha
Who cares what they do behind closed doors. Pay attention to your own relationship. There are too many divorces for people to tell other who they can or cannot marry. I may not want to see a homosexual couple together, nor would I want to see or hear about a brother and sister together but at the end of the day, they don't affect my life negatively or positively. Unless it affects my bills, paycheck or my rights then they can marry a goat for all I care.
Whoever you want well ROSIE has two kids she adopted She would push for marrage with her daughter if she wanted. I am selfish and I don't believe I should obay the law! Gays are now pushing to lower the age when you can have sex with 14 year old boys! Whats different? Make everything legal I wanna have sex with that hottie. Even if she doesn't! see what I mean?
Well it seems most 16 year old girls agree; You shouldn't be allowed to marry your brother or sister. However it seemed like most people felt gay marriage was OK. Your case isn't very convincing.
Yay Slippery slope argument! The funny thing is you can apply it to the NRA, Separation of church and state, and abortion. I'll let you use it as long as I can say that you think people should be allowed to by nuclear arms to protect themselves, The government is allowed to establish a religion that every American will be force to practice, and the government can mandate when and how many children a woman can have.
Such hypocrisy. They say marrying your brother or sister is immoral. So where do morals come from? God. What exactly does the faith of the Jewish people, Christian people, Muslim people all say about Homosexuality? It's IMMORAL. The one girl is so funny about "brother and sister", she says it's biologically wrong. In the sacred union of man & woman, they biologically fit together perfectly, and in that perfect un
I actually felt sick after watching this video... This molotov guy should be sent back to pre school so he can actually have adult opinions
1234funsies 11 months ago
This is such a silly video. The only people who support three person marriages are extreme right-wing Christians such as the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints. And by the way their is plenty of support for three person marriages in the bible
padraigomairtin 1 year ago
The point is that so many people are saying that gay people getting married is going to ruin the sanctity of marriage as that one guy said its already fucked up This world doesn't even know what the sanctity of marriage is If you asked someone what it was they probably couldn't tell you Marriage should be between two people who love each other And people who say things like "I want to marry my dog I love him and he loves me" should think realistically and not try to make some irrelevant point
BrotherIpswich 1 year ago
ok so where was this video even goin?
tuRtLemAn064 1 year ago
lol, this video owns
darpachief 1 year ago
3-4 guys? That's called polygamy, not plural marriage.
That's when you marry several times, but each time to another person.
If you asked me that question in that video, I'd advise you to get some education.
Oh and btw, when gay people say marriage they don't mean marriage in church OBVIOUSLY, but they mean marriage under law, in which they can share all their property and if one of them dies, the spouse inherits all of it. Like in heterosexual marriage, but without church, just the legal part.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa That's not exactly true. Not all gay people want be JUST legally married. There are a lot of gay people who do want to be married by the church. Jus t because you are gay does not mean you don't have your faith. Trust me i should know :P
BrotherIpswich 1 year ago
@BrotherIpswich
Well, that is just pointless and silly. Faith is poison for the mind. But in any case, why the heck would homosexuals even be members (let alone ask for a "blessing") of a religion that despises (I'm not actually overstating the sentiment) homosexuals as a matter of course?
To me, that sounds like they're just being "the drama queen".
If it was up to me, I'd abolish the church wedding entirely. Actually, I'd abolish the religions all together, but that's another cup of tea.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa yeah let's abolish all forms of government as well.
who needs government??
anarchy would solve everything!!
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
You must be stupid, otherwise you would not be mixing religion with law.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa lol. i ahve every right to bring my religion into this so long as it doesn't contradict the bill of rights.
you're obviously an athiest and i don't want to get in a religious debate but athiesm is akin to anarchy.
so do u agree that a guy could marry his sister? that's messed up.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
Again, there you go showing off...with your massive ignorance and extremism, no less.
Atheism is NOWHERE near anarchy. Even though anarchy is NOWHERE near chaos, that you're probably referring to.
Atheism is a lack of belief in an imaginary God without evidence.
Anarchy is a state of society without rulers or governments (which doesn't necessary means chaos; there are different forms of anarchism part of which fundamentally oppose violence).
Chaos is self-explanatory.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
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baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
But all that doesn't have SHIT to do with incest. Having sexual relations with relatives is something NO ONE approves of, religious or not. Why? Because it's bad idea genetically. And because it's your family, not sexual partners.
Gay marriage doesn't have SHIT to do with all this. So why are you talking bullshit and unrelated nonsense?
You think if you say "what if someone wants to marry his sister" everyone will just grovel in shame like you know what you're blabbing about?
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa no one approves????? are u fucking kidding me???? inbred hicks isn't a result of a man raping his sister or cuzin. it's CONSENTUAL incest.
so u're fuckign smoking crack.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
Inbred hicks? Watching too many movies a la "Wrong turn"?
When did you last meet an inbred man or woman in person?
Are you talking from your personal experience?
Second: Anarchy does NOT mean chaos. You need to learn more about both to be able to tell them apart.
Third: Atheism has no moral law? Haha you're a funny guy.
News flash for you - human morality is hardwired in our brains by evolution, not by Bible, just in case you're confused. And atheism is not a sociopathic disorder.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
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@mickeypopa "When did you last meet an inbred man or woman in person?"
hmmm my friend from the Marines, whoz from arkansas, told me stories of his friends. so i'll take his word for it.
2nd EVERYONE knows theres cases of consentuel incest. it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. don't u watch TV?
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
Even gay men wouldn't want to marry their brothers or gay women their sisters.
So what the FUCK does your stupid statement have to do with this video?
Incest is considered bad by society because now we know about genetics and high risk of genetic mutations involved for inbred children which eventually leads to inbreeding depression (look it up, ignorant moron).
And that's ONLY in case of men and women, because only in that case procreation is possible, in case you missed it. LOL
mickeypopa 1 year ago
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@mickeypopa IF athiesm isn't anywhere near anarchy then anarchy isn't anywhere near chaos.
anarchy simply means no government. but as we all know if u take away government (law) chaos ensues.
athiesm has no moral law thus any act can be justified in the indivisuals mind such as marrying one's sister.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@mickeypopa who says they need to have kids? they can be sterilized and then get married if that's the case.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
And one last thing: since you're a dumb homophobic ass not capable of using that little brain you have, why don't you think about this - brother and sister CAN marry IN CHURCH WITH "HIS" BLESSING. All they have to do is falsify their personal information. So it's easy, especially in Vegas.
In Rhode Island and New Jersey incest is not even illegal (consensual & over 18).
And that STILL doesn't have ANYTHING to do with GAY marriage.
You do realize that GAY is man/man or woman/woman?
mickeypopa 1 year ago
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@mickeypopa IF athiesm isn't anywhere near anarchy then anarchy isn't anywhere near chaos.
anarchy simply means no government. but as we all know if u take away government (law) chaos ensues.
athiesm has no moral law thus any act can be justified in the indivisuals mind such as marrying one's sister.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@mickeypopa is athiesm isn't anywhere near anarchy then anarchy isn't anywhere near chaos.
anarchy simply means no government. but as we all know if u take away government (law) chaos ensues.
athiesm has no moral law thus any act can be justified in the indivisuals mind such as marrying one's sister
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@mickeypopa incest, homos, beastiality, and pedophilia are all forms of sexuality.
perverted (which means UNNATURAL) forms of sexuality.
so yes homosexuality does have everything to do with incest and pedophilia.
in some countries it's ok for a grown man to get married to youg girls
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
Incest, homosexuality and pedophilia are all natural forms of sexuality, for your information. All these types of sexual behavior are pretty common in nature.
slate(dot)com/blogs/blogs/humannature/archive/2008/04/16/incest-in-nature.aspx
news(dot)nationalgeographic(dot)com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
Just because humans are able to use their brains and break free of the laws of nature doesn't mean that something is unnatural just because Bible says so.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa tearing a baby apart from another tribe limb from limb is also pretty common in nature.
does that make it OK?
we're not animals we're HUMAN BEINGS!
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
Like I said, we are humans with an evolved brain and evolved social interactions.
Brutality and homicidal behavior falls under sociopathic disorder, and of course I DON'T approve of it because it's harmful for out society. But it does happen nevertheless. Grow the fuck up, Mr. Righteous.
And why are you changing the subject to anti-social behavior now?
I'll tell you why - you've been served, and now you can't handle it.
Tell you what - go back to school and we're cool.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa how it harmful to our society. survival of the fittest my friend.
it's only harmful to indivisuals.
if hitler had continued his reign the human race would of survived. he didn't set out to destroy ALL of humanity. just certain parts
and as we all know tribal warfare is an inherint part of nature.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@mickeypopa BAM YOU'VE BEEN SCHOOLED!
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
And no, homosexuality doesn't have anything to do with incest or pedophilia.
Are you that stupid? Since when it's mandatory for gay people to have sex with their underage brothers or sisters? Man, you are in dire need of some education on the subject.
Last thing: "In some countries it's ok for a grown man to get married to young girls?" - Yes, in countries governed by religious law-Islamic countries. Some morality, eh? Religion is arrogant and full of shit, like you.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa how hard is it for u to understand that if all morality (in your view) is circumstantial then u can't stop a 30 yr old man from marrying a 14yr old boy who "loves him" back.
and if u think that's stupid I'd beg to differ.
It'd be foolishness to think that teenage homos don't fantasize about older men.
nor could u stop them if they wanted to add their brother into the mix.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
By the way, pedophilia (however it may happen in nature) is totally unacceptable in humans, because it always involves sexually immature children and sexually mature adults, which, of course, causes harm to children and it's never consensual unlike homosexuality and incest, which may be.
I haven't really read much on the subject of bestiality to be able to discuss it, but I guess it falls under animal abuse, so I definitely don't approve of it, as I don't pedophilia and incest.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa sexually immature children?
even having sex with a teenager who is fully capable of having kids is considered pedophilia.
2nd in some cultures they often marry lil girlz to older men at a REALLY young age.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro
So one last time, to wrap it up:
Homosexuality, incest and pedophilia (for example bonobos and stoats) are all NATURAL types of sexual behavior (as in - found in nature).
Humans have an evolved brain with which we are able to learn about and exclude types of sexual behavior detrimental to our society created by our evolved social interactions.
I don't approve of pedophilia, incest or bestiality.
I do approve of homosexuality as long as it doesn't involve previous 3 types or rape.
mickeypopa 1 year ago
@mickeypopa just cuz it's common in nature don't make it right.
and that theory of human naturally know not to do it is bullshit.
ppl have consentual incest all the time. it's no fucking secret that it happens form time to time
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@mickeypopa if everything is circumstantial and there is no right or wrong, then evils such as torture which is unique among humans is perfectly fine.
it's simply man's way (which he learn through evolution) of extracting information from indivisuals. which some in use during time of war.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
Maybe just change the definition of marriage a union of any two people? And call marriages in the church call it holy matrimony instead of marriage?
mayasonfiyahh 1 year ago
I honestly agree with the first girl that talked. Marriage belongs to the church. But i think marriage shouldnt count for shit. We need a whole new system that allows for whoever to be joined legally without some stupid ceremonie.
But thats alot of work, idrc. Gay people deserve everything us straight people have.
MichaelHasNoFriends 1 year ago
@MichaelHasNoFriends yeah i really want to marry my goat.
good idea!!!
baezalejandro 1 year ago
@baezalejandro Exactly! With a new system you could marry a goat or anything else that either can not give consent or will not give it. It's perfect.
No. Thats not what I was refering to. I was meaning the consentual joining of two adults. Goats don't enter into it and I hope you are intellecually honest enough to realize that.
MichaelHasNoFriends 1 year ago
@MichaelHasNoFriends i hope your intellectually honest to realize that political correctness will allow any act to become law out of fear of offending.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
Did not the children of Adam and Eve have to sleep together to populate the Earth?
minteko 1 year ago 2
@minteko Did not evolution occur and Adam and Eve is some myth that a random person would pass through generations which somehow led into the Bible? I believe in God and I am a Christian but...Look at the facts Evolution happened.
Lazie18up 1 year ago
@minteko yea but doesn't mean they are gay just was incest and if the bible condones that then it is ok LOL
johndebbra 8 months ago
those guys are inbredophobes!
;-)
Iamgercornholio 2 years ago
That sounds like Nancy Pelosi lol
aquinn5234 2 years ago
ok the interviewer obv didnt like some of the opened minded answers "wat is 3 guys wanted to get married?".. i havent seen a guy marry 2 women in america, so wen that happens then he can ask his bullshit question.
tigga2425 2 years ago
Amen. some of these people. just WOW,
Great Video Moltov!
thundor777 2 years ago 6
If you think homosexual "marriage" is acceptable, then you cannot condemn multiple partner marriages or inbred marriages and remain consistent.
kamaujackson811 2 years ago
Ur fucked fuck face
forbiddenfruitboy 2 years ago
IDIOTA
aaround 2 years ago
This idiot interviewer keeps asking 'What do you think of 3 guys getting married legally?' Then he goes to the fine example, well..'Most people know marriage as something between a man and a woman, so why not 3 men being able to get married?..
..Umm..When was a man legally allowed to marry two women in America? DUmb ass?Plain and simple..homophobes..get over yourself..you wont wake up gay one day if two guys who already are together get legally married. Fucking corn fed redneck inbreeds lol!
CrystalMystique 2 years ago
wow i cant believe that first girl said she was thought marriage should be between a man and a woman!! I wonder if it was a 100yrs ago she would think voting is between a ballot and a man???
JoeyBoya 2 years ago
this ppl are so dumb
GraveZero00 2 years ago
what i got from this video was an ironic confession...people saying gay marriage is ok, but an inbred marriage between a man and a woman...the same people saying if they love each other its ok, but saying no, its morally not right for a brother and sister to get married....un-fucking-believable how stupid some people are...this video is brilliant, i never considered that perspective.
jw11432 2 years ago
Facepalm.
JealousInquiry 2 years ago
Some of these people have IQ less than a 100. Dumb Mother fuking assholes. "Its thier choice bullshit". Next thing you know, they are going to have animal and human marriage. Gays and bisexuals need to be condmned on sight. So what if a few decide to take thier own life, its better than them spreading like a disease
Bryanaam 2 years ago
how the fuck can an animal consent to marrige,
kellogscornsnake 2 years ago
that couple were lesbians, looked like they were offended so they walked away holding hands
Miikaika25 2 years ago
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Miikaika25 2 years ago
illuminatitv is an asshole with an axe to grind.
odinata 2 years ago
being gay is stupid. If everyone in the world was gay there would be no human race. u might aswell walk around chopping dicks off and replacing them with strap on dildo's
BenjiMC1 2 years ago
i forgot being gay is just like incest
i also forgot that there used to be POLYGAMY, but that's illegal. because it dehumanized woman
i forgot about the big polygamy crack down recently too.
he must have also forgotten to ask if marriage between a man and a woman and a woman was okay.
many people do
motherbay 2 years ago
WTF- why is he talking about plural marriage and incest when that has nothing to do with the argument. it is 'a whole different story'
lordofhamster 2 years ago
he was talking about the moral decisions we make on marriage and then people turn around and call people biggots for upholding a moral stance that might hurt peoples feelings.
acerusso 2 years ago
"Gay Marriage", No!!! marriage was and has always been a sacrament between a man and a women, however as said in this video "it is your life, so you can do as you please" meaning you can date or be together, but not trash a traditional value. SUPPORT GAY PRIDE, BUT NOT GAY MARRIAGE.
grimnavyseal 2 years ago
he forgot about what from stoping a man to marry two or more womens or vise versa
Quincyshameless 2 years ago
or a man marrying a cow, or a sheep. or what about a woman marrying another woman and a man and a horse! i mean its ppls life, they can do whatever, whatever...whatever, u know?
skld46 2 years ago
uhmm ok they told those in the vid so wat ever juss pay attention next time :] so yeah who cares its there life no matter how weird it is to me or other ppl and i got no right to say anything its not effecting my life so i dont care
Quincyshameless 2 years ago
uuuhhhh ok?
skld46 2 years ago
no problem :]
Quincyshameless 2 years ago
3-way marriage would mean a financially easier life for the 3 people, which seems unfair to me.
Already, couples are able to save money on rent, mortgage, all sorts of living expenses than single people are. And with plural marriages, we will experience "couplism" in addition to the already existing "singlism".
likebroccoli 2 years ago
there's right and wrong. sometimes its a gray area, but that's when we have to look to the Bible for answers.
alexiproductions 2 years ago
Funny how the mormon church, funded the prop 8 campaign to the tune of around $20m and how many wivescan they have again?
kerrian1960 2 years ago
Implicit argument by following Red Herrings to Slippery Slopes. Shameful.
Ya know, not two minutes ago, on a hunch, I investigated a quote from a Christian's channel (who fav'ed this) that had one of the Founding Fathers (P. Henry) claiming this was a Christian nation (giving others religious liberty because we're nice Christians.) As I suspected, it was both plastered all over the web, and utter bullshit.
Why is it these "champions of morality" are so often lacking in simple integrity?
VeryEvilPettingZoo 2 years ago
VEPZ yeah that claim, and hitler was an Atheist. Are fallacious claims that STILL continue to be perpetuated to this day by X-tians. It's get pretty old having to clear those up.
CrimsonSpectre 2 years ago
I think the issue here and not saying I agree or Disagree on the Subject of gay marrage is this. you want the line to be where you want it...that just because you think that the Incent marriage is illage then you should also be against Gay marriage is just a non-sequre. I could make the same argument againt against Hetro Marriages since by your argument as stated in this is that it "Could" lead into Homo then to Incest and so forth.
Shirotora1979 2 years ago
I thought it was, "Land of the free", not "You can be free as long as I'm ok with it."
west26cali 3 years ago
if you think about it what would be so wrong if a brother and a sister love each other ... if they wouldn't have any children ... i can't find anything wrong with that ... imagine they would have been separeted on their birth then they met each other without knowing the other one is his brother her sister... and they fall an love... I can't find anything wrong with that >.> ..
IZzachan 3 years ago
there is more to be concerned about than an fanatic religious idea...live your life but respect others..
seriousbrute 3 years ago
Who are you to tell us what we can and cannot do with our lives. Why are you all up in shit that doesnt affect you?
desotzac 3 years ago
WOW people in America are very ignorant. Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Partnerships ok, marriage NO!
pmaughmer 3 years ago 2
Great video! Thanks a lot!
TucsonMinador 3 years ago
I want to marry my pet dog! I love him and he loves me, why can't the world accept who we are? I just want to be happy and live my life with my dog as my partner. Why are people telling me how to live my life? I should be free to do what I want, this is America.
SimplyPolitical 3 years ago 3
My argument exactly
hoserPhalanx 3 years ago
@SimplyPolitical Have you ever seen a dog sign a contract? It's called consent.
compter2008 1 year ago
@compter2008 he'll give consent so long as u give him his daily dose of kibbles.
i don't think dogs like being put on leashes either. why u being so oppresive?!
baezalejandro 1 year ago
So um... I have a question.
Why are they comparing incestuous and polygamous marriage to homosexual marriage when most cases of incest and polygamy are committed by heterosexuals? Shouldn't we be more worried about straight marriage being between brothers/sisters and more than one person?
Not to hate on straight people, but... this argument is completely off base. I don't even understand the parallel.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
The point is if you accept homosexuality as "ok", then you have to accept ANYTHING and EVERYTHING else that is a sexual perversion. There is no normal moral standard if you accept homosexuality, and sodomy.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
But homosexuality isn't a sexual perversion.
Most psychiatrists and scientists have accepted it as something as normal and natural as eye color. There's also cases of homosexuality in other species.
However, if you want to take that route -- fine. Laws aren't based on "moral" standards. There's a separation of church and state for a reason. Polygamists can't marry more than one person because of legal issues. Incest is illegal for medical reasons. It's not about "perversion".
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Who are you to say that someone can't marry as many wives, or husbands as they want ? Who are you say that people can't have sex with children, who are you to determine who can have relations with their bothers or sisters or cousins ? You see you are disenfranchising all these other peoples wants, but for you it means nothing. Now you understand how straights feel about your wants. It is a perversion, just because a few say it isn't doesn't make it so.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
Homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy and pedophilia! Just as polygamy has nothing to do with pedophilia! It's like apples and oranges. Some people would also agree that sex before marriage is a moral issue and a perversion -- or sex without the purpose of producing children. "A few" don't say homosexuality isn't a perversion, honey -- millions do. More do every day, especially the younger generation. Lucky for us, your kind is dying out.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Homosexuality is a perversion. Perversion is defined as :
1. the act of perverting.
2. the state of being perverted.
3. a perverted form of something.
4. any of various means of obtaining sexual gratification that are generally regarded as being abnormal.
5. Pathology. a change to what is unnatural or abnormal: a perversion of function or structure.
Sex is by design meant to be between opposite sex's, therefore homosexuality is an unnatural or abnormal act, and therefore it is a perversion.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
Like I said already and will say again, very few educated doctors and psychiatrists/psychologists consider homosexuality abnormal, so your definition of "perversion" still doesn't (to me) reflect homosexuality.
Sex "by design" can also happen between siblings and cousins, which was considered normal about a hundred years ago -- but not now. Times change. Homosexuality has gone back and forth from being "normal" to not. You have no right to declare it as normal or abnormal.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Somehow you are attempting to use the excuse of another wrong to justify the wrong of homosexuality. What does incest have to do with making homosexuality right ? Sex between anyone related is clearly wrong, but two guys or two girls that are unrelated, you whole heartedly endorse!? Odd thinking that, it would appear you simply don't want to be wrong, and so you attempt to make a wrong right through rationalization and justification.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
I am not attempting to justify homosexuality by other wrongs. YOU are attempting to CONDEMN homosexuality by other wrongs. There is no comparison, as you have stated so nicely yourself.
What does incest/polygamy have to do with making homosexuality wrong? Nothing.
Homosexuality is not "wrong" just because the Bible says it is. It states a lot of things as "wrong" that are common practices in our society today.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
If you support or practice homosexuality, you have no morals. You can't support something that is a perversion and be a moral person, it is a contradiction. You can make the argument that pedophilia is "ok" and that everyone needs to stay out of "your business" but as a society we have to draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not.Homosexuality is a perverted act. You try to cloud the issue and confuse the feeble minded.Fact is fact no matter what angle you try to present.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
I support and practice homosexuality, and I have several morals. There isn't a black and white world. Your judgment is you throwing stones from a glass house -- judging is also "wrong" -- therefore, you're not a moral person either. Your arguments make no sense.
Pedophilia isn't acceptable because children are involved, and children can't give their consent, you nitwit. That's an understandable "line" to draw.
You are the only feeble-minded person. Who are you to say what is right and wrong?
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
I ask the same question of you. Who are you to say what is right or wrong?
I have morality, and the bulk of the voting population on my side, and the opinion of the masses is what matters. Voters condemned homosexuality.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
I'm not saying what's right or wrong. I'm not the one trying to ban anything as right or wrong; I'm not the judgmental one.
You don't have morality on your side. You have no place to say what's moral and what's not. Are you really that arrogant to think that YOU know what's moral? Over another human being who is no more or less divine than you?
Are you aware that masses of voters also kept slaves from getting married, and kept slavery intact for decades? Majority DOES NOT EQUAL right.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
No amount of evidence is going to convince you homosexuality is wrong. You will discount and discard all evidence that contradicts your point of view in favor of fragmented half-truth scraps that give the illusion of supporting your lifestyle and beliefs. You are the victim of your own deception, and the lies that those you surround yourself with help perpetuate. I pity your circumstance.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
Funny, that sounds exactly like what you're doing. :) Luckily for us, your narrow-minded beliefs are dying out. More and more people accept homosexuality, and that's not going to change. People become more tolerant as time goes by -- it's never the other way around.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
There you go as is typical of homosexuals trying to play victim, and tie your struggle to the civil rights movement.
Homosexuals are not even in the same ballpark as civil rights. Slavery should never have been in this country, and has nothing to do with people who want the right to sodomize each other under the title of marriage.
You can make the same arguments to a police officer, or a judge about the law.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
First you call me a victim and then you say I'm trying to play a victim? Make up your mind. I don't see myself as a victim. Homosexuality is tied into the civil rights movement because it is also a civil rights movement.
Are you aware that straight people often sodomize each other? Perhaps you should try it. It might loosen you up.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
You brought up the bible, not me. Since you did, why do you pick and choose what you condemn and embrace ? That seems to be hypocritical.
All condemned acts in the bible: pedophilia, bestiality homosexuality, murderer, thievery are condemned for eternal spiritual reasons, and for the terrestrial protection of the perpetrator and the victim.
Personal attacks are your last resort when you can't beat the argument.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
I don't embrace anything from the Bible. I don't believe in it. I was just working from your stance, since you can't give me any scientific or proven reason why homosexuality is "wrong." Pedophilia and incest can be disputed scientifically -- that sort of argument is understandable. However, your stance on homosexuality being immoral has no basis in my mind. Please explain.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Give me a scientific or proven reason homosexuality is "right"
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
No. I'm not making that claim. I'm simply saying that it's not WRONG. Not everything is black and white, as I've said over and over. Learn to live in a gray world and you'll be much happier.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
@ChristineDaae yeah it does.. they're all sexual preferences dealing with the union between 2 or more ppl.
baezalejandro 1 year ago
Mytime, Polygamy has nothing to do with same sex marriage. Marriage is still devoting your love to one person. You can't fully give yourself to more then one person in a marriage, it just isn't possible. Secondly, brothers and sisters who wish to marry could still have the ability to marry someone who isn't blood related to them. meaning they have the ability to marry, just not within their family; Homosexuals do not because they will continually love someone of the same sex, which is unfair
Frohbs 3 years ago
Homosexuality is an abnormality. If there is an abnormality, it should be corrected through research, testing, and a comprehensive plan that delivers measurable and predictable results. If you don't label something as abnormal, you can't develop a cure and that is where we are at the moment. Homosexuals are loathsome towards those that renounce homosexuality and return to being "straight" If being with the opposite sex is straight, then wouldn't that make being gay "crooked"?
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
mytimeisnigh, you are so stupid. There is no cure for homosexuality; Similarly, who are you to classify it as an abnormaility? Maybe you should pick up a book or read articles on homosexuality before you try to give lectures to people. If you don't like gay people leave them the hell alone, but don't try and preach your bigotry to them and don't try and fix what doesn't need fixing.
Frohbs 3 years ago
You buy into the falsehood of a few scraps of research that don't come to any proven conclusion. You have the notion that education is tied to being gay tolerant.You have little perspective.I have education,but I think homosexuality is wrong.You have an opinion,I disagree with it,does that make you stupid,or a nitwit? Addicts,pedophiles,etc are often in denial they have a problem needing correction.Live your life how you want, keep your lifestyle choices out of the laws that govern the majority.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
But the law that matters doesn't govern the majority, it governs the minority. Why should the majority vote on a law against the minority?
Homosexuality was disputed as being a disease and an abnormality years ago. You must be uneducated -- or do you only disagree with experts? It's fine if you do, of course, but you must also understand that you will be hard-pressed to find strong backing. Unless, of course, you go to Fred Phelps. Look him up, he seems like your type of guy.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Where did you get this so called education you claim to have? Maybe you would have heard that the majority isn't threatened by the minority; However,the minority needs protection from the majority in the foundations encompassed by a democracy."a few scraps of research that don't come to any proven conclusion" so clearly you haven't read any of the articles or else you would have learned something from them. Addicts and pedophiles suffer from mental ailments: homosexuals do not. get over yourself
Frohbs 3 years ago
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mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
Frohbs:No bigotry here or hate, just truth.You are 21, I doubt you have your GED let alone higher education. I have an advanced degree and have worked for several household name firms in a Director and VP capacity.You can't refute the truth, and the truth is homosexuality is a perversion by definition.You have the sense of a gnat, but you may grow a brain in a decade or so.Keep your chin up and keep marinating in the pool of delusions you and the sycophants you surround yourself with perpetuate.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
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Frohbs 3 years ago
I've already graduated from college prick. Who are you to undermine my education? Your past work experience doesn't prove that you are intelligent; you're words and hate only prove that you are a close minded biggot. I find it funny that you actually make the argument that I refute truth when your beliefs goes against what has been proven by science: aka truth. I'm glad that people with your mindset are a dying breed.
Frohbs 3 years ago
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Frohbs:No bigotry here or hate, just truth.You are 21, I doubt you have your GED let alone higher education. I have an advanced degree and have worked for several household name firms in a Director and VP capacity.You can't refute the truth, and the truth is homosexuality is a perversion by definition.You have the sense of a gnat, but you may grow a brain in a decade or so.Keep your chin up and keep marinating in the pool of delusions you and the sycophants you surround yourself with perpetuate.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
You will find many more physicians, psychologists, etc that will say it is unnatural. The problem is you fail to see that if you accept homosexuality, you have to accept any and all sexual abnormality otherwise you exclude and subject everyone else to the very victimization you complain homosexuals are suffering. You can't have it both ways. There is either moral ground and you take a stand, or you open the door to anything and everything. It's all or nothing, tradition, or anything goes.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
I haven't complained about anything.
You can't clump things together that way. That's narrow-minded and inaccurate. I have not met one educated physician that will say homosexuality is unnatural. Please, find me one who isn't influenced by the church -- who grounds his beliefs in facts.
Those are black and white rules you're preaching, which gives no room for progression in our country, society, or way of life.
ChristineDaae 3 years ago
Well said, mytimeisnigh.
LizzyxDarcy 3 years ago
good god people.
flash254 3 years ago
Here is the solution to the entire problem: remove all financial/taxation advantages of marriage and then marriage becomes what it originally was: A religious ceremony. Then you can go and marry a goat and it doesn't matter anymore.
masonkiller666 3 years ago
So, siblings cannot be consenting adults? Just curious because I may need to call off the wedding to my brother - we're gay and siblings.
Jerrymorris7001 3 years ago
GREAT VIDEO... Inbred stopped them cold, a follow up question should have been a man and his sheep...
If you are allowed to do what ever you want... why not?
Keep up the great work!
FFoenix81 3 years ago
I WANNA GET MARRIED TO 5 GIRLS AND 8 GUYS!!!
that way i have 8 husbands and 5 wives...
ppl are so stupid.
Marriage = 1 man + 1 woman
ajdonabed 3 years ago
Nowhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution is preservation of tradition cited as a power or intention of our government. There is no constitutional basis for denying gay couples marriage, and every constitutional reason why our government should actively pursue legalizing gay marriage in order to give gay men and lesbians their rights as equal citizens of the United States and to ensure their inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness that every American is guaranteed.
mikebr25 3 years ago
You fuckin idtiot.
First off do me a favor and look up the definition of "marriage" in the dictionary and then get back to me.
Second, the entire "marriage" idea is purely a religious commitment anyway! you can make that same commitment WITHOUT a priest anyway. It's purely culteral.
Homosexiality is just plain freaky anyway. Go back to school and get off YouTube.
ajdonabed 3 years ago
WELL IF IT "PURELY A RELIGIOUS commitment" thn no more tax breaks or joint health insurance benefits for married people. Afterall we do have separation of church and state. Either everyone gets the same benfits or noone does.... Equality can not exist when one group does not have an option to beome equal to another. We all know the definition of marriage moron... that is not what we are arguing about.
mikebr25 3 years ago
Everything has to be equal? Very Socialist approach you have. This country was founded on Christian priniciples. The seperation of Church and State is to prevent one church from having athority over the government and has nothing to do with a government agreeing with moral and there for Biblical views.
FFoenix81 3 years ago
As a matter of fact, notice I say fact, this country definitely has freedom of religion, not freedom of Christian religion. All of us are entitled to moral beliefs, but we must be very careful to be consistent with the "separation of Church and State," or better, "draw the line."
opure 3 years ago
Thomas Jefferson, sound familiar?, wrote for the Virgina Legislature the Statutes on Religious Freedom, that called for religious freedom for ALL religions,Christian, Buddhist, Islam, Hindu, Judaism, etc. Now is Jefferson socialist? (not enough space, lol)
opure 3 years ago
directed to FFeonix
opure 3 years ago
Yes, look up Public Law 97:280 in US Code, and then let these fools tell you that the gospel of Jesus Christ has nothing to do with America. These people are so wicked.
I enjoy your views. Keep up the great work.
Hemaun 3 years ago
Marriage is about your commitment to God between a husband and wife. Thats how its written in the Bible. Thats where the term marriage comes from, not the Constitution. If you don't believe in the bible, or its teachings, why would you want to be "married" then anyway? Marriage is a biblical term, go get a Civil Union and be happy with your gay self.
FFoenix81 3 years ago
This is a classic scare tactic.... NOONE IS ASKING FOR 3 or 4 people to get married. And to draw a comparison between incest and homosexuals is just plain rediculous. Marriage is a union between two people - thats a given. DO Not let the religious right wings distract you from the issue people. The constitution is CLEAR EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE. Not just christians and not just heterosexuals.
mikebr25 3 years ago
I suggest you brush up your history my friend. The constitution WAS written after religious upbringing... "In God We Trust...."
"In this year of our Lord 1776, we the People"
Oh by the way this video DOES talk about multiple partners.. just in case you were too dense to understand that. This country WAS founded purely on Christian principles.
ajdonabed 3 years ago
"I suggest you brush up your history my friend." That is a classic text isolation tactic that concervative chrisitians are notorious for doing to manipulate the masses. The fact is that Thomas Jefferson saw the issues of religion and created the jefferson bible... a collection of many differant areas of the bible ... he excluded the "miracles" because he thght them to be false. He believed Jesus to be as human as any other man but thght him to be a man of great character.
mikebr25 3 years ago
Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism (the term "Nature's God" used by deists of the time). With his scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (see The Jefferson Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus.
mikebr25 3 years ago
Distortions of history occur in the minds of many Christians whenever they see the word "God" embossed in statue or memorial concrete Those who visit the Jefferson Memorial in Washington will read Jefferson's words engraved "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man" When they see the word God many Christians seethis as "proof" ofhis Christianity without thinking that "God" can have manydefinitions ranging from nature to supernatural
mikebr25 3 years ago
No one is asking for it YET!
If they get the gay marriage passed thats the next thing to ask for. Then after multiple weddings and incest comes marriages to your favorite dog or cat. Have you seen how people treat their dogs better than their own children?
FFoenix81 3 years ago
You are making an ignorant comparison. Homosexuality is not a perversion like incest or beastiality. If marriage is just a religious ceremony thn the government has no reason for providing benefits to married couples. It is those benefits that people are fighting for not just the word. Marriage is a symbol of a bond between two people. Gay people deserve pensions,social security benefits, tax breaks (just to name a few) for thr partners civil unions do not provide thaose "benefits".
mikebr25 3 years ago
Actually homosexuality IS a perversion, that is the fundamental difference in our thinking mike. It is not "normal" to have sexual relations with a person of the same sex. There for it is a perversion of the act of sex which is about procreation. (Please don't get into the "what about people who are barren" discussion, because you know exactly what I mean). As far as benefits- they can get those through civil unions.
FFoenix81 3 years ago
I agree we have a fundamental differance of opinion. Homosexuality is "normal" and "natural". I disagree that sex is solely for procreation... Sex is also about experiencing a heightened level of intimacy with your partner. It can create a deeper more meaningful bond between two people. Benefits offered to persons in a civil union are NOT the same as those given to married couples. If they were, we would not be having this arguement.
mikebr25 3 years ago
Sex is by design meant to be between a man and a woman, that is undeniable. Therefore anything else is a perversion by the very definition of the word. Intimacy meant to be shared during sex is only intended between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is perverse, and wrong, and you and every other person that promotes the act is wrong. Trying to make what is clearly wrong right is insanity. You don't want to be wrong so you try to make the act right, rather than curb your behavior.
mytimeisnigh 3 years ago
This has to be the most hypocritical movie for pro gay marriage people ever. They accept gay marriage between 2 guys or 2 women, but not 3 guys or 3 women, or incest(even if the Brother and sister are sterile). And their reason for not accepting it? Because it's morally wrong. LOL. They ping Religious supporters for their use of the term morality and yet they use it as their excuse for these other marriages to not be legalized? What a joke. I've never laughed so hard in my life. Hypocrits. LOL!!
krbkrbk 3 years ago
no on proposition 8
horacioh62994 3 years ago
Just more BS from a "good Christian." They won't be happy until we live in a total theocracy. No on 8.
VivianAster 3 years ago
why? got some facts
jpapca 3 years ago
80z
Such hypocrisy. They say marrying your brother or sister is immoral. So where do morals come from? God. What exactly does the faith of the Jewish people, Christian people, Muslim people all say about Homosexuality? It's IMMORAL. The one girl is so funny about "brother and sister", she says it's biologically wrong. In the sacred union of man & woman, they biologically fit together perfectly, and in that perfect union, they make babies. Let's call it for what it REALLY is. Deviant sexuality
hitman132i 3 years ago
This is how it works. The main reason to get married is because you get benefits from the Gvmn't as a couple. The reason Gvmn't gives you benefits is because they want to encourage a procreative foundation for civilization. Marriage also promotes monogamy children are better off in a home with 2 committed parents.
Conversely, sterile heterosexual couples are not kept from getting married, and as technology advances a same-sex couple could have a baby. Its not just semantics & religion.
LAP327 3 years ago
How 'bout we make it illegal for balding, overweight, illogical pinheads to get married?
Wyglyph 3 years ago
The people who made this video openly call themselves Illuminati.
Illuminati use pro-life as a tool but they will never allow Roe v. Wade to be overturned.
Illuminati (or Bohemian Grove, their other name) decided Supreme Court would legalize abortion in 1973 to get rid of welfare babies.
If you want to know the real deal, look up "Illuminati", "Bohemian Grove" and "Cremation of Care"
In a nutshell Illuminati are Satanists using Christian Right for their own pro-death purposes.
johnnybandmember 3 years ago
straw man fallacies! cool guys! really intelligent and 'open-minded' of you. I love how fundies turn the blame of ignorance away from themselves.
ranjihabarnabab 3 years ago
typical fundie homophobe crap. incest is totally differnt than gay marriage.
why not mention lesbians? love matters.
MaryStewart 3 years ago
legalise gay mariage! W00T!
MaryStewart 3 years ago
"legalise" < Note for everyone out there...
Whenever you see an "s" where a "z" should be, the person writing is European. They were most likely not raised in the U.S. and put down OUR value system any chance they get. Some don't even live in the U.S. they just like to sway OUR elections.
That's what O-bah-ma's sheep in the "world community" do all day...sit around patting themselves on the back, full of self-righteous pride for helping us "stupid Americans" see the error of our ways.
Pappy76248 3 years ago
What's the point of this video? So if we don't stop 2 guys getting married now, sooner or later there's going to be some guy trying to marry his dog? Oh my God, when will it end? This guys is a dumb ass whose kid will probably be gay. haha
memos415 3 years ago
I'm surprised the question of inter-species marriage didn't follow.
LynchMob42 3 years ago
Who cares what they do behind closed doors. Pay attention to your own relationship. There are too many divorces for people to tell other who they can or cannot marry. I may not want to see a homosexual couple together, nor would I want to see or hear about a brother and sister together but at the end of the day, they don't affect my life negatively or positively. Unless it affects my bills, paycheck or my rights then they can marry a goat for all I care.
repelled 3 years ago 2
The people who made this video openly call themselves Illuminati.
Illuminati use pro-life as a tool but they will never allow Roe v. Wade to be overturned.
Illuminati (or Bohemian Grove, their other name) decided Supreme Court would legalize abortion in 1973 to get rid of welfare babies.
If you want to know the real deal, look up "Illuminati", "Bohemian Grove" and "Cremation of Care"
In a nutshell Illuminati are Satanists using Christian Right for their own pro-death purposes.
oliviareed26 3 years ago 2
your not impressing anyone "oliviareed26"
The2ndAmendmentGuy 3 years ago
The guy who made this video labels himself Illuminati.
Illuminati are the Satanists who meet in Bohemian Grove to make the real decisions that they hand down to their shills in Washington DC.
Illuminati pretend to be Pro Life.
Illuminati (Bohemian Grove) decided Supreme Court would leglize abortion in 1973.
Look it up if you have any doubts.
Or listen to Alex Jones' radio.
jamesvg25 3 years ago 2
I can't believe this fruit actually labels himself Illuminati ...
Illuminati are Satanists who use various guises to push their pro-death agenda.
If you are curious about who is behind this video, look up "Illuminati" or "Bohemian Grove" or even "Cremation of Care" .
These people are hardcore Satanists disguised as Right Wing Christians.
oliviareed26 3 years ago 4
The people who made this video openly call themselves Illuminati.
Illuminati use pro-life as a tool but they will never allow Roe v. Wade to be overturned.
Illuminati (or Bohemian Grove, their other name) decided Supreme Court would legalize abortion in 1973.
If you want to know the real deal, look up "Illuminati", "Bohemian Grove" and "Cremation of Care"
In a nutshell Illuminati are Satanists using Christian Right for their own pro-death purposes.
johnnybandmember 3 years ago 2
Whoever you want well ROSIE has two kids she adopted She would push for marrage with her daughter if she wanted. I am selfish and I don't believe I should obay the law! Gays are now pushing to lower the age when you can have sex with 14 year old boys! Whats different? Make everything legal I wanna have sex with that hottie. Even if she doesn't! see what I mean?
Dallouez 3 years ago
Well it seems most 16 year old girls agree; You shouldn't be allowed to marry your brother or sister. However it seemed like most people felt gay marriage was OK. Your case isn't very convincing.
RobertPaulson69 3 years ago
Yay Slippery slope argument! The funny thing is you can apply it to the NRA, Separation of church and state, and abortion. I'll let you use it as long as I can say that you think people should be allowed to by nuclear arms to protect themselves, The government is allowed to establish a religion that every American will be force to practice, and the government can mandate when and how many children a woman can have.
AllPwrflSteve 3 years ago
Such hypocrisy. They say marrying your brother or sister is immoral. So where do morals come from? God. What exactly does the faith of the Jewish people, Christian people, Muslim people all say about Homosexuality? It's IMMORAL. The one girl is so funny about "brother and sister", she says it's biologically wrong. In the sacred union of man & woman, they biologically fit together perfectly, and in that perfect un