why is an organization who receives tax payer money even involved in voting so far as to be accused of voter fraud, or endorsing ANY party's candidates?
simple answer-they shouldn't be in public politics at all.
Since churches are considered charities, they can write up all the money they used for charitable goods and services and get the money from the feds, just like any other charity.
Same goes for if a person who donates to a church. They can write it off on their taxes.
the seperation of church and state has been in effect since the pilgrims got here. religions don't pay taxes, nor do they receive any money from the government, ever. their money comes from the people who attend whatever the particular church. there are no tax write-offs for giving to the church.
There was an instance in New Jersey where a lesbian couple wanted to get married in a park owned by a church. The church wouldn't allow it, but the couple sued. They won the lawsuit because the church was receiving tax dollars from the government to keep the park neat and clean. Feel free to look this up on google.
dude your retarded. it was some gay and lesbian couples in asbury park sueing the state of new jersy for same sex marriage rights. now you look it up and read it and stop taliking out of your ass. lambdalegal . org
Who cares about a company PLEADING GUILTY to 25 mil. (gov gets it back) I care about our almost 12 trillion deficit and how our government is still pissing our money away to expand themselves. GOVERNMENT DEFRAUDING US! These stories are distractions so you don't pay attention to the real frauds.(Our gov which allows this to happen.) Our dollar is NOW worthless because of people who are turned into dumb asses by believing propaganda.(such as this)
shanefenton1: "Our dollar is NOW worthless because of people..."
Well our currency is a fiat currency so it has the strength of whoever believes in it. Side stepping a ton of economics, people (domestic and foreign) are still buying into the US currency.
That's not to say that we shouldn't get a handle on the budget, but we have seen worst general budget times than this (107% GDP spending during WWII).
I don't believe the value is based on the population at large being turned into "dumb asses."
I don't consider people that smart who complain about how either party plays with our money, yet continue praise either party. Both political sides are equally guilty. Thanks for the lesson on how the global banking system is backed by nothing. Wow! You know a ton about economics? Don't tease me by sidestepping, inform nescient fools such as myself! I have know idea how deep this rabbit hole goes!
"I have know idea how deep this rabbit hole goes! "
Truly? Well why not tell us something we didn't already know? People in government being crooked?! Say it ain't so!
Our deficit is $12 trillion, no way!
I'd think it would be clever if you told us something that actually made an inkling of difference. But I'm sure it will just be some non-sense in UPPERCASE no doubt.
Please, next crazy person yelling about the absolutely obvious.
Look, I was just defending my point of view and prodding your arrogance. When you wrote your last comment, was your intent to write something that makes a difference? I bet you are probably a great and knowledgeable human that with friends and such. Why the rhetoric? It would be nice if we could save it for the people who created this economic prison and stop fighting with each other.
You are biased and bought off, Mr Cenk. After all you will do anything to protect your interests at failing MSNBC. Yet you call what you do Journalism?
Actually, TYT does not claim to be unbiased at all. They continually call themselves progressives and fully disclose that they are opinion-driven. They report and then they give opinion about the reporting.
Cenk, its not that our press is dumb, its that they are bought and paid for. Big business and politicians want to keep the public from hearing real news to keep us ignorant and under their thumb. Fox news is the worst. MSNBC atleast tries to gives us some decent news, but they don't always succeed. All the other news networks out their are just as lame. Its pretty bad when you actually start watching shows like The Daily Show for their news content.
I forget what the statute is called offhand but there exists a rule that congress can't legally pass a law that only applies to a single entity, which is why whatever ACORN stripping funding law they passed won't pass muster if challenged in court. To be consitutional it needs to be a law saying funding stripped from ANY entity defrauding the govt, so there would go about EVERY contractor and defense industry involved in the current conflicts.
it's the "bill of attainder". actually in the constitution. it protects against any entity from being unfairly singled out with regard to doing business with the federal government.
there are several companies all convicted of fraud, murder, prostitution, and actually running a sex slave ring... all who continue to get federal money.
if there were ever a case of an entity being unfairly singled out for punishment, acorn would be it.
Halliburton, Dyncorp, Lockheed, Blackwater...all guilty of fraud on an absolutely gigantic scale (and the Pentagon is complicit in it), but not a word from Fox.
It seems they think its okay to steal from the taxpayer if you are a military contractor.
The damnable thing about it too is that congress is willing to pass legislation tocrack down on ACORN while all those other companies guilt of even greater fraud are left alone. Its like going after Martha Stewart for insider trading while ignoring a crook like Bernie Madoff. What a bunch of garbage.
Nothing outrages the press MORE than a perceived slight against it. And they are more committed to pursuing this, than anything else.
Even look in the entertainment press (which is hard to distinguish from "real news" nowdays) - the mainstream media are all but crying for the state to take the children of those BALLOON HOAXERS away - they feel mighty burned for being duped. And in lieu of the news they wanted, they'll get the news they CREATE.
Twenty five million is peanuts compared to the theft that goes on in HUD,WIC,Minority no bid contracts and ACORN.Yes the scumbags who stole the twenty five million should be in jail but compared to some of the shit that is going on its not big news.Who the fuck care about fox reporting it? Big woop!!I wish fox would go off the air so the jerkoff young turd would find something else to bitch and moan about.FOX,FOX,FOX,FOX,FOX, BLAH...BLAH..BLAH....
Really? In the last 15 years ACORN has received 51 million dollars in payment for performing services for the government. That's it. 51 million, legitimate dollars for doing real work. Probably less than 0.0001% of that went to real fraud by employees, who were quickly fired. So please tell me, HOW was that peanuts?
And the reason he cares about fox reporting it is because they claim to be straight news and fair and balanced. If they claimed to be conservative, this wouldn't be an issue.
I really have to wonder if friction00815 is compensated by Faux News and the Rush Limbaugh show for the number of thumbs down he gets for each of his posts.
Yes, the whole ACORN "scandals" are just a red herring ruse by right wing groups to continue to demonize the black community and to take the attention off the real fraud and waste perpetrated by government contractors who steal billions per year from tax payers by outright fraud, bribes, no bid contracts and over charging.
The American people know that. But it is much easier to manipulate the level of outrage if the alleged defrauders happen to be black or brown.
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Cenk only offered a cheap Young Turks t-shirt to the viewer that proves that Fox News reports that MPC Products story. Lame! If Cenk truly believes that Fox News won't do that report, then why doesn't he offer something of high value?
Wendy62: If I have to sit through hours of watching Fox News waiting for the news story, and then figure out how to record it and convert it to the correct format so that I can send to The Young Turks, I would like more than just a lame t-shirt.
Cenk should come up with a decent prize like a PlayStation 3 or Xbox360.
Cenk ... you so rock. Fox ... you so suck, thanks for dumbing down America and always taking up for the rich and greedy and always downing the little and powerless.
ACORN = black people....ACORN = poor working class people....so of course faux news and the republicans would viciously attack them....rachel maddow did a whole show explaining how ACORN along with labor unions work together to fight for social causes....like increasing the minimum wage...empowering poor people to vote....helping poor people get affordable housing etc.....those are things big corporations HATE....those are things white racists HATE....so of course fox news is all over it
Yeah, exactly. She named 3 or 4 big defense contractors like Lockheed Martin,etc.. that have defrauded like 3.6 Billion dollars from the US in the last 8 years, and Acrn has received 53 million in TOTAL funding over 10 years. So maybe ACORN defrauded a thousanth of that amount. Hell Congress pisses more than 6 million away in half an hour on expenses!! Every large organization will commit a little fraud-it's the nature of companies. But there are Levels. Faux News = hypocrite kings.
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young turk is such a pathetic loser. he doesn't get to choose the programming or the stories FOX covers. if the turk wants to cover this story then let him. he can't stop there though, he thinks it's his place to say, hey FOX why aren't you covering it too?
young turk is too pathetic to do his own show and let others do their type of show without him putting in his worthless 2 cents.
Why are you calling him Young Turk? It's the name of the show.
You clearly don't know what he's trying to talk about here. You're too immature or stupid (or both which is more likely) to watch arguments like this and even attempt to create your own rebuttal.
Just keep watching FOX and voting Republican like the mindless zombie you are.
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hey danjozef, then here's a rebuttal for you. did young turk cover the story of GE paying a 50 million dollar fine to settle accounting fraud charges brought against them by the SEC? a fine paid with some of the 139 billion taxpayer dollars that GE received from the federal government. did NBC or MSNBC cover that story? OH HELL NO! anyone who wants to show me a clip of turk or NBC covering the GE fraud scandel gets a free t shirt. damn it's so easy to pwn turk the hypocrite.
I don't know whether he covered it, but how do you know he did not?
Whichever case is true, cenk's the last guy who doesn't cover that kind of stuff if he gets his hands on the news. I watch the show for quite some time and this selective coverage is definitely not the type of thing cenk does, especially since if you watch the show you know cenk is absolutely not on the side of GE or any of the big corporations, quite the opposite.
No, read again. Cenk says himself that he does an opinion show. What I was saying is that he is not selective at all when it comes to corporate crimes, fraud and the like.
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hey ComeLeVent, you must be basing your claim of young turk not being selective by the way he totally dismissed the fraud and corruption by ACORN as no big deal in this video.
Don't like it? Don't watch. Go watch something else that you think is fair and balanced or whatever it is you're trying to extrapolate from news media.
If Cenk didn't cover a story, it's not because he doesn't want to because he has a political agenda. He just missed it. His news is not selective at all, how do we know? The Young Turks are not owned by a fat cat CEO or some other over paid douche bag.
If you think Cenk is doing selective coverage, where is your evidence?
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HAHAHA!! danjozef you are a fucking joke. the only reason young turk would miss a story is cuz it didn't appear in the Huffington Post, the place where he lifts all his stories from. you actually think young turk has no political agenda or bias? you are truly a fucking idiot
Yeah, the whole ACORN & Van Jones thing was VERY low key, it was really easy for any news agency to miss that one. Really? You expect me to believe they don't participate in selective coverage? This guy is as bad as Limbaugh.
HE didn't say that it was no big deal, he was saying that it wasn't the organization itself that did it. And the people that attempted got fired. So therefore, baseed on that info, if you ask me then that is no big deal when compared to other bigger issues. He did not force it down my throat and I made my own decision. Fow News crams to same consevative ideas down our throats on "almost" every show. Thats what it is.
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he ebj1871, young turk has no basis at all to make that claim, no proof at all, not without the benefit of a full investigation. the turk is just making empty assumptions and you accept it without question.
bro, how can you call me a drone. YOU ARE saying that with purfe assumptions yourself. I get MOST of my general info from a very right wing guy at work. Along with FOx, CNN, TYT, and papers. I don't know about you but I hope you are writing this same stuff on Fox News' youtube videos. Because they make persuasive conversations all the time. Way more than tyt
actually friction, and you should know this being a regular youtube viewer of TYT, is that Fox complained when other news channels didn't cover those theocratic protesters a month ago.
funny how Cenk brings a pretty damning report for us YTTYT watchers, and you flounder like never before.
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what daming report? it's just another story that young turk lifted from Huff Post and it will NEVER be headline news or a national story. it won't go anywhere. the tea party protests were a national story.
once again young turk and the rest of the liberal SCUM media FAILS
we are all getting tired of you friction, all you scream is "LIberal SCUM Liberal SCUUUUUUMMMMM" your done the world is done with you, your not a conservative, even conservatives can back up what they say, all you do is call people empty headed and other low ball names, you've got nothing going for you, that's why your on TYT vids all the time, you are either poorly pitching for a slot of Fox or your just a sad little boy with no freinds
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sorry, nope Scarpsad. I already called out the young turk on his filthy hypocrisy a few comments ago. if you can't deal with me exposing his massive fails then TOO BAD. go get some therapy and get your stomach pumped of all that liberal scum koolaid.
this channel has been PWND by me once again. I WIN
OMFG you actually think this channel has been PWND by you, hey let me check again to see what you called the young turk out on....hmmm lets see anything, anything...do you mean the Acorn thing, well that was voter registration fraud by people making $12 an hour, and Acorn worked with prosecution after that, what's your problem with Acorn again? Oh I know you blindly follow anything Beck and Hannity says, you are made of stupid. Calling people empty headed and Scum does not mean you Pwnd anything
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nope, sorry Scarpsad. I countered young turk's ridiculous example of the mpc products scandal vs. the GE fraud scandal and their huge fine and who chose not to cover that story.
yeah I'm not going to get into the absurd nonsense out of a twelve year old child anymore, you want to think you Pwnd me fine, I'm going to now take the advice of others and just ignore you till you go away. Sad thing is your going to take this as a win like the kid that screams "I"M RIGHT I"M RIIIIIIGHT" when people just give up on them. Good luck and Godspeed.
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nothing to say about the GE scandal and the point I made huh? I thought so. I'll expect you to never reply to me again then. and don't leave anymore nasty comments on my page you petty little twit.
Friction please stop, your giving us Conservatives a bad name. To everyone on this mostly Lib YT page the conservatives completely denounce everything Friction says, we don't want you to get the impression he speaks for us. Like the Birthers we want nothing to do with him.
oh hey your absolutely right dude, originally I didn't realize he was a troll, and I tried to reach out to him, being the good moderate that I am, I thought if I found a middle ground he would talk to me sensibly, but no, that was yesterday, today I wanted to play his game of insults and foaming from the mouth anger. your right though I should ignore him, people like him will make fundamentally assinine statements just for the attention.
Never heard Cenk cover one thing on Van Jones or ACORN or the misappropriated spending of the Stimulus money. Our news media is an absolute joke. He doesn't report anything bad about the liberals, and if he does he still manages to slip in a degrading remark about a Cons.. Do a search for Larry Craig's incident in the bathroom and do a search for the liberal judge who was lowering sentences for sexual favors. Then tell me there is no bias. There is 1 judge story and like 20 LC vids from YT.
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They play the same damn game the liberal media does. Did any of them report on Acorn? No. Did any of the republican media report on war crimes? No. So what's your point Cenk? You don't report on ANYTHING that slams the liberals and Rush doesn't report on ANYTHING that slams the republican party. I really don't get your point. Our entire news system is a freakin joke, YOU included.
I watch it all the time and there is NO comparison. Open your eyes will ya. I don't belong to either party, maybe if you watched it without your liberal bias you'd see it.
They're not the same, but I can see why someone might think so. This is why the Fairness Doctrine was good, because it made sure both sides had to be presented BY THE SAME NETWORK. It gave everyone a common understanding of what was really happening, and what each side thought about it.
BTW: I like the Young Turks a lot, and never miss an episode. Kindly do not lump all their audience together as the same please.
So if you like the fairness doctrine that means the Young Turd Show would have to give equal time to......say Gush Limpjaw.Right? I MEAN FAIR IS FAIR!
Well, I am a liberal. And I don't think the way we're doing it right now is very helpful to liberals.
I don't think it's helpful to moderates either, or to thoughtful conservatives. The only people I think are benefiting are media owners, the people who can get a profit by showing cr@p like Glenn Beck, who maunders for 3 hours a day and spews conspiracy theories that would have embarassed a schizophrenic on a street corner 30 years ago. ...Oh, and Beck.
I don't care if a network owned by shareholders put whatever they want on their network.However it really irks me that my tax money pays for PBS yet they seem to take a liberal slant.
That's a fair point of view certainly. Me, I do think there ought to be some laws controlling what people show, even on their own networks, especially when you have Fox News attorneys arguing in court that they have a right to broadcast false information and call it news (google Akre v. Fox), and winning.
PBS has a reputation for being liberal, but I never noticed it much except with Bill Moyers. I thought they mostly showed boring classical music and old British sitcoms.
The problem with controling what is on a network would be who controls what is being shown? If it is a government entity then the network is controled by the government and thats not good.I don't watch tv because I refuse to have one.Will you give me an example of what the Fox network lies about?
How do they decide who the watchdogs are? Its interesting because what I see in the U.S. is a difference in ideology rather than somebody lying.The so called conservatives and the so called liberals both accuse each other of lying.
we tend to use people who are unbias and will stay in the middle and go at both groups. Though if the group is ever found to be 1 sided or anything they get punished type thing and whoever found bias is sacked.
No system is perfect, but we need some system, the uncontrolled way we're doing things now just makes people cynical about all news everywhere
Example of Fox lying? Okay, I'll give one. Jane Akre and her husband worked for Fox, collecting research about bovine growth hormone. They were finding things that made BGH look bad, and Monsanto, maker of BGH, complained to Fox, who ordered the Akres to take out that part of the story. Fox showed a false story, rather than risk angering Monsanto.
Do you have any examples of CNN or any other news outlets or networks lying? Why not just change the channel if you don't like Fox? I think all the networks mislead the public thats why I don't watch any of them.
Russian channel accuses CNN of using misleading war video
■ MOSCOW (MN) - Russian English-language television channel Russia Today has acused the U.S. broadcaster CNN of using the wrong pictures in their coverage of the conflict in South Ossetia. A Russian cameraman says footage of wrecked tanks and ruined buildings, which was purported to have been filmed in the town of Gori, in fact showed the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali, the RTTV reported on its web site. .
Fox is the only network that's gone to court to defend their right to misrepresent the news. That is major. You can find examples of other networks misrepresenting (and I can find examples of them correcting their mistakes on the air), but Fox is the only network that wanted the right to show false information and call it news, enough that they went to court about it.
I don't watch Fox, but lots of people do, and they think they are getting real news. That is wrong.
Corporartions run the US media and it's absurd for people to talk about it being a 'free market'. It's just as controlled as any socialist system is.
Where I live, the people vote about 85% democrat routinely. 6 out of 8 of our AM news-talk stations are dominated by consevatives. There can't possibly be a legitimate advertising base supporting this kind of disporportion. Instead, they are subsidized by special interests.
People need to cross reference what they research and stop depending on the phony news that fits on these controled news networks.However they should not be forced to shut down.If nobody watch that crap that would shut them down.They will never report the truth.They like a dumbed down public they can control.
It would be very nice if everyone took the time to make themselves informed, but evidence shows that doesn't happen on their own. Some people don't have time to check several sources for their news, some people don't understand the importance of doing it.
Those people have the same right to vote that any other citizen does. They control the future of the US along with you and me. It is in the whole country's interests to make some laws that will expose them to both sides of the story.
They play it down the line. They are not turning hard right like FOX do, they go in and investigate, they take the time, because they are well funded and not driven by the profit motive.
You say they are well funded.I suppose Fox News is well funded.Where does the BBC get there funding from? How can you tell they "they play it down the line",?
The BBC puts a lot of money into research. They take the time, investigate stories before they broadcast them. They have earned their reputation for providing quality news.
Fox, by contrast, airs stories without fact-checking at all. Did you hear any of the talk about ACORN a few weeks back? Hear about the lady who supposedly killed her ex-husband? Fox aired the story as an actual murder, without checking if the husband was alive. He was, the police had checked and could have told them so
The BBC are funded by British television license fees. It is in their charter to provide evenhanded news coverage.
The only guideline that FOX has is to hit the Democrats, Liberals, Atheists, Progressives, anybody who is not hard rightwing, as often and hard as possible.
Yeah and the Liberal media was all over it while the Limbaugh and Hannaties weren't saying one word. Now the Libs are in power and we don't hear one bad word from the liberal media on anything they are doing wrong but we get it all from the Republican news outlets. Don't you see a patern here. There is no way to get REAL news anymore. The news agencies play to their parties, and this guy is just as bad.
Republicans only care about fraud and corruption in the government when someone with a (D) next to their name does it or if someone trying to help working class Americans does it. Fraud that helps the interests of the wealthy or politicians with an (R) next to their name is perfectly fine in their book.
I think party politics is disgusting on both side.Republicans only care about fraud and waste when its someone with a (D) next to their name and Democrats only care when its someone with an (R) next to their name.
of course Faux isn't going to cover it...i mean... did you expect them to? hahahaha
TrustKovacss 2 years ago
The Huffington Post...
ConservativeResponse 2 years ago
Who covered the story? I can't find anything about in any media outlet.
ConservativeResponse 2 years ago
BusinessWeek did.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
Cenk... they are in court. They admitted to it. What's the problem?
ConservativeResponse 2 years ago
why is an organization who receives tax payer money even involved in voting so far as to be accused of voter fraud, or endorsing ANY party's candidates?
simple answer-they shouldn't be in public politics at all.
and thats how stupid you are.
albertfeeney 2 years ago
Why are the people complaining about Acorn see no issues with Churches who receive tax payer money IMO illegally, get to be in politics?
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
i don't get it.
what churches in america get tax payer funds?
albertfeeney 2 years ago
Since churches are considered charities, they can write up all the money they used for charitable goods and services and get the money from the feds, just like any other charity.
Same goes for if a person who donates to a church. They can write it off on their taxes.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
churches aren't considered charities.
the seperation of church and state has been in effect since the pilgrims got here. religions don't pay taxes, nor do they receive any money from the government, ever. their money comes from the people who attend whatever the particular church. there are no tax write-offs for giving to the church.
albertfeeney 2 years ago
Yes they do and yes they can.
There was an instance in New Jersey where a lesbian couple wanted to get married in a park owned by a church. The church wouldn't allow it, but the couple sued. They won the lawsuit because the church was receiving tax dollars from the government to keep the park neat and clean. Feel free to look this up on google.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
dude your retarded. it was some gay and lesbian couples in asbury park sueing the state of new jersy for same sex marriage rights. now you look it up and read it and stop taliking out of your ass. lambdalegal . org
albertfeeney 2 years ago
Okay. Make up the lawsuit. I don't care.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
who made it up???
lamdalegal(dot)org/news/pr/supproting-roads-justice-marriage-equality-gay(dot)html
albertfeeney 2 years ago
No, it was one lesbian couple that found a church committing tax fraud.
Sent a link to the article in your profile.
ooMONKEYoo 2 years ago
pr/supporting-roads sry
MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL!
albertfeeney 2 years ago
The difference is ACORN is political, and full of negros.
calimar28 2 years ago
Onion News is much better than Fox News.
exChristian666 2 years ago
Who cares about a company PLEADING GUILTY to 25 mil. (gov gets it back) I care about our almost 12 trillion deficit and how our government is still pissing our money away to expand themselves. GOVERNMENT DEFRAUDING US! These stories are distractions so you don't pay attention to the real frauds.(Our gov which allows this to happen.) Our dollar is NOW worthless because of people who are turned into dumb asses by believing propaganda.(such as this)
shanefenton1 2 years ago
shanefenton1: "Our dollar is NOW worthless because of people..."
Well our currency is a fiat currency so it has the strength of whoever believes in it. Side stepping a ton of economics, people (domestic and foreign) are still buying into the US currency.
That's not to say that we shouldn't get a handle on the budget, but we have seen worst general budget times than this (107% GDP spending during WWII).
I don't believe the value is based on the population at large being turned into "dumb asses."
linuxBlob 2 years ago
I don't consider people that smart who complain about how either party plays with our money, yet continue praise either party. Both political sides are equally guilty. Thanks for the lesson on how the global banking system is backed by nothing. Wow! You know a ton about economics? Don't tease me by sidestepping, inform nescient fools such as myself! I have know idea how deep this rabbit hole goes!
shanefenton1 2 years ago
"I have know idea how deep this rabbit hole goes! "
Truly? Well why not tell us something we didn't already know? People in government being crooked?! Say it ain't so!
Our deficit is $12 trillion, no way!
I'd think it would be clever if you told us something that actually made an inkling of difference. But I'm sure it will just be some non-sense in UPPERCASE no doubt.
Please, next crazy person yelling about the absolutely obvious.
linuxBlob 2 years ago
Look, I was just defending my point of view and prodding your arrogance. When you wrote your last comment, was your intent to write something that makes a difference? I bet you are probably a great and knowledgeable human that with friends and such. Why the rhetoric? It would be nice if we could save it for the people who created this economic prison and stop fighting with each other.
shanefenton1 2 years ago
You so are a joke, you bitch about the dumbest shit.
spikeyleo300 2 years ago
This dude is one to talk, how long have then been bitching about Bush? Damn hypocritical communist.
spikeyleo300 2 years ago
You are biased and bought off, Mr Cenk. After all you will do anything to protect your interests at failing MSNBC. Yet you call what you do Journalism?
It's called hypocracy.
picc01 2 years ago
Actually, TYT does not claim to be unbiased at all. They continually call themselves progressives and fully disclose that they are opinion-driven. They report and then they give opinion about the reporting.
awesomerepublican 2 years ago 2
Cenk, its not that our press is dumb, its that they are bought and paid for. Big business and politicians want to keep the public from hearing real news to keep us ignorant and under their thumb. Fox news is the worst. MSNBC atleast tries to gives us some decent news, but they don't always succeed. All the other news networks out their are just as lame. Its pretty bad when you actually start watching shows like The Daily Show for their news content.
gunslinger107 2 years ago 11
Exactly, they're corporate whores. They'll open their legs to ANYBODY for the right price.
Hence Dubya doing business with the family of the man (Without investigation) who was responsible for 9/11.
DaReal2k9 2 years ago
I forget what the statute is called offhand but there exists a rule that congress can't legally pass a law that only applies to a single entity, which is why whatever ACORN stripping funding law they passed won't pass muster if challenged in court. To be consitutional it needs to be a law saying funding stripped from ANY entity defrauding the govt, so there would go about EVERY contractor and defense industry involved in the current conflicts.
Will be interested in how this plays out.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago
it's the "bill of attainder". actually in the constitution. it protects against any entity from being unfairly singled out with regard to doing business with the federal government.
there are several companies all convicted of fraud, murder, prostitution, and actually running a sex slave ring... all who continue to get federal money.
if there were ever a case of an entity being unfairly singled out for punishment, acorn would be it.
tomitstube 2 years ago
Halliburton, Dyncorp, Lockheed, Blackwater...all guilty of fraud on an absolutely gigantic scale (and the Pentagon is complicit in it), but not a word from Fox.
It seems they think its okay to steal from the taxpayer if you are a military contractor.
Relugus 2 years ago 13
The damnable thing about it too is that congress is willing to pass legislation tocrack down on ACORN while all those other companies guilt of even greater fraud are left alone. Its like going after Martha Stewart for insider trading while ignoring a crook like Bernie Madoff. What a bunch of garbage.
gunslinger107 2 years ago
can i have a young turks t shirt??????
thelousyllama 2 years ago 2
2:20 - "...they're so, so dumb."
Nothing outrages the press MORE than a perceived slight against it. And they are more committed to pursuing this, than anything else.
Even look in the entertainment press (which is hard to distinguish from "real news" nowdays) - the mainstream media are all but crying for the state to take the children of those BALLOON HOAXERS away - they feel mighty burned for being duped. And in lieu of the news they wanted, they'll get the news they CREATE.
Public media!
KosmicCitizen 2 years ago
Now that ACORN has suffered a tangible financial loss due to the Faux News lies, why doesn't someone back them in a defamation lawsuit against Fox?
CFinNaples 2 years ago
FUCK FOX! GO TO HELL FOX!
DRDNIBOY 2 years ago 3
what? my comment was removed? that is ok there are those who choose not to see the truth and those who do and will..
death to america! we will not stop
jaroncreed 2 years ago
Twenty five million is peanuts compared to the theft that goes on in HUD,WIC,Minority no bid contracts and ACORN.Yes the scumbags who stole the twenty five million should be in jail but compared to some of the shit that is going on its not big news.Who the fuck care about fox reporting it? Big woop!!I wish fox would go off the air so the jerkoff young turd would find something else to bitch and moan about.FOX,FOX,FOX,FOX,FOX, BLAH...BLAH..BLAH....
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Really? In the last 15 years ACORN has received 51 million dollars in payment for performing services for the government. That's it. 51 million, legitimate dollars for doing real work. Probably less than 0.0001% of that went to real fraud by employees, who were quickly fired. So please tell me, HOW was that peanuts?
And the reason he cares about fox reporting it is because they claim to be straight news and fair and balanced. If they claimed to be conservative, this wouldn't be an issue.
atlant80 2 years ago
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xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Hey! I want a Young Turks T shirt!
arlosdad 2 years ago
Faux news doesn't care about fraud unless black people are doing it.
MaryJesusJoseph 2 years ago 7
I really have to wonder if friction00815 is compensated by Faux News and the Rush Limbaugh show for the number of thumbs down he gets for each of his posts.
Mxyzptlk562 2 years ago 5
Yes, the whole ACORN "scandals" are just a red herring ruse by right wing groups to continue to demonize the black community and to take the attention off the real fraud and waste perpetrated by government contractors who steal billions per year from tax payers by outright fraud, bribes, no bid contracts and over charging.
The American people know that. But it is much easier to manipulate the level of outrage if the alleged defrauders happen to be black or brown.
Mxyzptlk562 2 years ago 3
friction is just a little bitch that should stick to his fox news and wacking it to Rush Limbaugh's voice
willienkc 2 years ago 2
I'll take you up on that offer Cenk. I'm gonna..watch....Fox......ah fuck. Alright you got me.
DTMTroy 2 years ago
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Cenk only offered a cheap Young Turks t-shirt to the viewer that proves that Fox News reports that MPC Products story. Lame! If Cenk truly believes that Fox News won't do that report, then why doesn't he offer something of high value?
TranCendenZ 2 years ago
What do you want, a million dollars? Who do you think's funding the show, Rupert Murdoch?
Wendy62 2 years ago
Wendy62: If I have to sit through hours of watching Fox News waiting for the news story, and then figure out how to record it and convert it to the correct format so that I can send to The Young Turks, I would like more than just a lame t-shirt.
Cenk should come up with a decent prize like a PlayStation 3 or Xbox360.
TranCendenZ 2 years ago
Not even a fully loaded Xbox 360 is worth the untold brain damage.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Cenk ... you so rock. Fox ... you so suck, thanks for dumbing down America and always taking up for the rich and greedy and always downing the little and powerless.
p34c3th1nk3r 2 years ago 2
ACORN = black people....ACORN = poor working class people....so of course faux news and the republicans would viciously attack them....rachel maddow did a whole show explaining how ACORN along with labor unions work together to fight for social causes....like increasing the minimum wage...empowering poor people to vote....helping poor people get affordable housing etc.....those are things big corporations HATE....those are things white racists HATE....so of course fox news is all over it
jshooper 2 years ago 4
Yeah, exactly. She named 3 or 4 big defense contractors like Lockheed Martin,etc.. that have defrauded like 3.6 Billion dollars from the US in the last 8 years, and Acrn has received 53 million in TOTAL funding over 10 years. So maybe ACORN defrauded a thousanth of that amount. Hell Congress pisses more than 6 million away in half an hour on expenses!! Every large organization will commit a little fraud-it's the nature of companies. But there are Levels. Faux News = hypocrite kings.
garthggarth 2 years ago 4
has Faux news covered this yet?
smokydave 2 years ago
no god
CondorDM 2 years ago
The press sucks up to FOX NEWS except MSNBC.
RumbleHD 2 years ago
Wait till Cenk hears what Axlerod said on This Week yeasertday. This is going to be good.
:)
TheLogicalTheist 2 years ago
come on friction u cant be serious! ure takin the piss im sure!
TheBeen88 2 years ago
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young turk is such a pathetic loser. he doesn't get to choose the programming or the stories FOX covers. if the turk wants to cover this story then let him. he can't stop there though, he thinks it's his place to say, hey FOX why aren't you covering it too?
young turk is too pathetic to do his own show and let others do their type of show without him putting in his worthless 2 cents.
friction00815 2 years ago
Why are you calling him Young Turk? It's the name of the show.
You clearly don't know what he's trying to talk about here. You're too immature or stupid (or both which is more likely) to watch arguments like this and even attempt to create your own rebuttal.
Just keep watching FOX and voting Republican like the mindless zombie you are.
danjozef 2 years ago 2
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hey danjozef, then here's a rebuttal for you. did young turk cover the story of GE paying a 50 million dollar fine to settle accounting fraud charges brought against them by the SEC? a fine paid with some of the 139 billion taxpayer dollars that GE received from the federal government. did NBC or MSNBC cover that story? OH HELL NO! anyone who wants to show me a clip of turk or NBC covering the GE fraud scandel gets a free t shirt. damn it's so easy to pwn turk the hypocrite.
PWND!!
friction00815 2 years ago
I don't know whether he covered it, but how do you know he did not?
Whichever case is true, cenk's the last guy who doesn't cover that kind of stuff if he gets his hands on the news. I watch the show for quite some time and this selective coverage is definitely not the type of thing cenk does, especially since if you watch the show you know cenk is absolutely not on the side of GE or any of the big corporations, quite the opposite.
ComeLeVent 2 years ago
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hey ComeLeVent, did you just try to tell me that young turk doesn't engage in selective coverage?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
now that's gotta be a joke, you're kidding I hope
friction00815 2 years ago
No, read again. Cenk says himself that he does an opinion show. What I was saying is that he is not selective at all when it comes to corporate crimes, fraud and the like.
ComeLeVent 2 years ago 3
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hey ComeLeVent, you must be basing your claim of young turk not being selective by the way he totally dismissed the fraud and corruption by ACORN as no big deal in this video.
friction00815 2 years ago
Don't like it? Don't watch. Go watch something else that you think is fair and balanced or whatever it is you're trying to extrapolate from news media.
If Cenk didn't cover a story, it's not because he doesn't want to because he has a political agenda. He just missed it. His news is not selective at all, how do we know? The Young Turks are not owned by a fat cat CEO or some other over paid douche bag.
If you think Cenk is doing selective coverage, where is your evidence?
danjozef 2 years ago 2
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HAHAHA!! danjozef you are a fucking joke. the only reason young turk would miss a story is cuz it didn't appear in the Huffington Post, the place where he lifts all his stories from. you actually think young turk has no political agenda or bias? you are truly a fucking idiot
friction00815 2 years ago
Yeah, the whole ACORN & Van Jones thing was VERY low key, it was really easy for any news agency to miss that one. Really? You expect me to believe they don't participate in selective coverage? This guy is as bad as Limbaugh.
jldurham6 2 years ago
HE didn't say that it was no big deal, he was saying that it wasn't the organization itself that did it. And the people that attempted got fired. So therefore, baseed on that info, if you ask me then that is no big deal when compared to other bigger issues. He did not force it down my throat and I made my own decision. Fow News crams to same consevative ideas down our throats on "almost" every show. Thats what it is.
ebj1871 2 years ago 2
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he ebj1871, young turk has no basis at all to make that claim, no proof at all, not without the benefit of a full investigation. the turk is just making empty assumptions and you accept it without question.
you are just another tyt drone
friction00815 2 years ago
bro, how can you call me a drone. YOU ARE saying that with purfe assumptions yourself. I get MOST of my general info from a very right wing guy at work. Along with FOx, CNN, TYT, and papers. I don't know about you but I hope you are writing this same stuff on Fox News' youtube videos. Because they make persuasive conversations all the time. Way more than tyt
ebj1871 2 years ago
No, i don't. I base it on his coverage of corporate crimes up to this date.
ComeLeVent 2 years ago
actually friction, and you should know this being a regular youtube viewer of TYT, is that Fox complained when other news channels didn't cover those theocratic protesters a month ago.
funny how Cenk brings a pretty damning report for us YTTYT watchers, and you flounder like never before.
DanoDanny 2 years ago 2
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what daming report? it's just another story that young turk lifted from Huff Post and it will NEVER be headline news or a national story. it won't go anywhere. the tea party protests were a national story.
once again young turk and the rest of the liberal SCUM media FAILS
friction00815 2 years ago
we are all getting tired of you friction, all you scream is "LIberal SCUM Liberal SCUUUUUUMMMMM" your done the world is done with you, your not a conservative, even conservatives can back up what they say, all you do is call people empty headed and other low ball names, you've got nothing going for you, that's why your on TYT vids all the time, you are either poorly pitching for a slot of Fox or your just a sad little boy with no freinds
Scarpsad 2 years ago 4
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sorry, nope Scarpsad. I already called out the young turk on his filthy hypocrisy a few comments ago. if you can't deal with me exposing his massive fails then TOO BAD. go get some therapy and get your stomach pumped of all that liberal scum koolaid.
this channel has been PWND by me once again. I WIN
friction00815 2 years ago
OMFG you actually think this channel has been PWND by you, hey let me check again to see what you called the young turk out on....hmmm lets see anything, anything...do you mean the Acorn thing, well that was voter registration fraud by people making $12 an hour, and Acorn worked with prosecution after that, what's your problem with Acorn again? Oh I know you blindly follow anything Beck and Hannity says, you are made of stupid. Calling people empty headed and Scum does not mean you Pwnd anything
Scarpsad 2 years ago 4
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nope, sorry Scarpsad. I countered young turk's ridiculous example of the mpc products scandal vs. the GE fraud scandal and their huge fine and who chose not to cover that story.
you've just been PWND!
friction00815 2 years ago
yeah I'm not going to get into the absurd nonsense out of a twelve year old child anymore, you want to think you Pwnd me fine, I'm going to now take the advice of others and just ignore you till you go away. Sad thing is your going to take this as a win like the kid that screams "I"M RIGHT I"M RIIIIIIGHT" when people just give up on them. Good luck and Godspeed.
Scarpsad 2 years ago
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nothing to say about the GE scandal and the point I made huh? I thought so. I'll expect you to never reply to me again then. and don't leave anymore nasty comments on my page you petty little twit.
PWND! I WIN AGAIN
friction00815 2 years ago
Friction please stop, your giving us Conservatives a bad name. To everyone on this mostly Lib YT page the conservatives completely denounce everything Friction says, we don't want you to get the impression he speaks for us. Like the Birthers we want nothing to do with him.
Chumpnutable 2 years ago 5
DICKHEAD
TheZaz003 2 years ago
Don't feed the trolls dude. TYT doesn't listen to this goof and neither should you.
DTMTroy 2 years ago
oh hey your absolutely right dude, originally I didn't realize he was a troll, and I tried to reach out to him, being the good moderate that I am, I thought if I found a middle ground he would talk to me sensibly, but no, that was yesterday, today I wanted to play his game of insults and foaming from the mouth anger. your right though I should ignore him, people like him will make fundamentally assinine statements just for the attention.
Scarpsad 2 years ago
frictionn00815: Do you either work for Faux News Corporation or are you a major holder of Newscorp?
After reading so many of your post defending Fox tooth and nail and regardless of how obviously wrong they are, I have to wonder.
Mxyzptlk562 2 years ago
Never heard Cenk cover one thing on Van Jones or ACORN or the misappropriated spending of the Stimulus money. Our news media is an absolute joke. He doesn't report anything bad about the liberals, and if he does he still manages to slip in a degrading remark about a Cons.. Do a search for Larry Craig's incident in the bathroom and do a search for the liberal judge who was lowering sentences for sexual favors. Then tell me there is no bias. There is 1 judge story and like 20 LC vids from YT.
jldurham6 2 years ago
Motivated reasoning. They'd care if it was fraud from the other side of the political scale.
DarkOceanAdam 2 years ago 3
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FOX will cover for conservative fraud
MSNBC will cover liberal fraud
Everybody is in the tank for someone.
182511419139208 2 years ago
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They play the same damn game the liberal media does. Did any of them report on Acorn? No. Did any of the republican media report on war crimes? No. So what's your point Cenk? You don't report on ANYTHING that slams the liberals and Rush doesn't report on ANYTHING that slams the republican party. I really don't get your point. Our entire news system is a freakin joke, YOU included.
jldurham6 2 years ago
cenk slams the democrats all the time. if you watched the show regularly you'd know that.
cm1155 2 years ago
I watch it all the time and there is NO comparison. Open your eyes will ya. I don't belong to either party, maybe if you watched it without your liberal bias you'd see it.
jldurham6 2 years ago
Wow, pissed off some of Cenk's sheeps with that commend didn't I.
jldurham6 2 years ago
They're not the same, but I can see why someone might think so. This is why the Fairness Doctrine was good, because it made sure both sides had to be presented BY THE SAME NETWORK. It gave everyone a common understanding of what was really happening, and what each side thought about it.
BTW: I like the Young Turks a lot, and never miss an episode. Kindly do not lump all their audience together as the same please.
Wendy62 2 years ago
So if you like the fairness doctrine that means the Young Turd Show would have to give equal time to......say Gush Limpjaw.Right? I MEAN FAIR IS FAIR!
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
No, that means the NETWORK that shows TYT should give equal time to Rush or someone like him.
Wendy62 2 years ago
Don't you think that would backfire on so called liberals?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Well, I am a liberal. And I don't think the way we're doing it right now is very helpful to liberals.
I don't think it's helpful to moderates either, or to thoughtful conservatives. The only people I think are benefiting are media owners, the people who can get a profit by showing cr@p like Glenn Beck, who maunders for 3 hours a day and spews conspiracy theories that would have embarassed a schizophrenic on a street corner 30 years ago. ...Oh, and Beck.
Wendy62 2 years ago
I don't care if a network owned by shareholders put whatever they want on their network.However it really irks me that my tax money pays for PBS yet they seem to take a liberal slant.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
That's a fair point of view certainly. Me, I do think there ought to be some laws controlling what people show, even on their own networks, especially when you have Fox News attorneys arguing in court that they have a right to broadcast false information and call it news (google Akre v. Fox), and winning.
PBS has a reputation for being liberal, but I never noticed it much except with Bill Moyers. I thought they mostly showed boring classical music and old British sitcoms.
Wendy62 2 years ago
The problem with controling what is on a network would be who controls what is being shown? If it is a government entity then the network is controled by the government and thats not good.I don't watch tv because I refuse to have one.Will you give me an example of what the Fox network lies about?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
a watchdog system which isnt gov controlled and is non bias maybe? (we british try using these systems to catch out fraud)
MitchofSmeg 2 years ago
How do they decide who the watchdogs are? Its interesting because what I see in the U.S. is a difference in ideology rather than somebody lying.The so called conservatives and the so called liberals both accuse each other of lying.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
we tend to use people who are unbias and will stay in the middle and go at both groups. Though if the group is ever found to be 1 sided or anything they get punished type thing and whoever found bias is sacked.
MitchofSmeg 2 years ago
from the watchdog group i mean for the sacking bit etc.
MitchofSmeg 2 years ago
No system is perfect, but we need some system, the uncontrolled way we're doing things now just makes people cynical about all news everywhere
Example of Fox lying? Okay, I'll give one. Jane Akre and her husband worked for Fox, collecting research about bovine growth hormone. They were finding things that made BGH look bad, and Monsanto, maker of BGH, complained to Fox, who ordered the Akres to take out that part of the story. Fox showed a false story, rather than risk angering Monsanto.
Wendy62 2 years ago 2
Do you have any examples of CNN or any other news outlets or networks lying? Why not just change the channel if you don't like Fox? I think all the networks mislead the public thats why I don't watch any of them.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Russian channel accuses CNN of using misleading war video
■ MOSCOW (MN) - Russian English-language television channel Russia Today has acused the U.S. broadcaster CNN of using the wrong pictures in their coverage of the conflict in South Ossetia. A Russian cameraman says footage of wrecked tanks and ruined buildings, which was purported to have been filmed in the town of Gori, in fact showed the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali, the RTTV reported on its web site. .
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Fox is the only network that's gone to court to defend their right to misrepresent the news. That is major. You can find examples of other networks misrepresenting (and I can find examples of them correcting their mistakes on the air), but Fox is the only network that wanted the right to show false information and call it news, enough that they went to court about it.
I don't watch Fox, but lots of people do, and they think they are getting real news. That is wrong.
Wendy62 2 years ago 2
Corporartions run the US media and it's absurd for people to talk about it being a 'free market'. It's just as controlled as any socialist system is.
Where I live, the people vote about 85% democrat routinely. 6 out of 8 of our AM news-talk stations are dominated by consevatives. There can't possibly be a legitimate advertising base supporting this kind of disporportion. Instead, they are subsidized by special interests.
Minneconjou 2 years ago 3
People need to cross reference what they research and stop depending on the phony news that fits on these controled news networks.However they should not be forced to shut down.If nobody watch that crap that would shut them down.They will never report the truth.They like a dumbed down public they can control.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
It would be very nice if everyone took the time to make themselves informed, but evidence shows that doesn't happen on their own. Some people don't have time to check several sources for their news, some people don't understand the importance of doing it.
Those people have the same right to vote that any other citizen does. They control the future of the US along with you and me. It is in the whole country's interests to make some laws that will expose them to both sides of the story.
Wendy62 2 years ago
The BBC are one of the most reliable news sources out there.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago 4
Who says so the BBC?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
They play it down the line. They are not turning hard right like FOX do, they go in and investigate, they take the time, because they are well funded and not driven by the profit motive.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
You say they are well funded.I suppose Fox News is well funded.Where does the BBC get there funding from? How can you tell they "they play it down the line",?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
The BBC puts a lot of money into research. They take the time, investigate stories before they broadcast them. They have earned their reputation for providing quality news.
Fox, by contrast, airs stories without fact-checking at all. Did you hear any of the talk about ACORN a few weeks back? Hear about the lady who supposedly killed her ex-husband? Fox aired the story as an actual murder, without checking if the husband was alive. He was, the police had checked and could have told them so
Wendy62 2 years ago
The BBC are funded by British television license fees. It is in their charter to provide evenhanded news coverage.
The only guideline that FOX has is to hit the Democrats, Liberals, Atheists, Progressives, anybody who is not hard rightwing, as often and hard as possible.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago 2
do they really care about fraud?
OF COOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUURSE!! (not).
wongdor 2 years ago 4
of course they don't care, they ignored War Fraud for 8 years
jaroncreed 2 years ago 12
Yeah and the Liberal media was all over it while the Limbaugh and Hannaties weren't saying one word. Now the Libs are in power and we don't hear one bad word from the liberal media on anything they are doing wrong but we get it all from the Republican news outlets. Don't you see a patern here. There is no way to get REAL news anymore. The news agencies play to their parties, and this guy is just as bad.
jldurham6 2 years ago
Damn! Folks from FOX's got ADHD.
Voodooray007 2 years ago 3
Republicans only care about fraud and corruption in the government when someone with a (D) next to their name does it or if someone trying to help working class Americans does it. Fraud that helps the interests of the wealthy or politicians with an (R) next to their name is perfectly fine in their book.
A86 2 years ago 10
I think party politics is disgusting on both side.Republicans only care about fraud and waste when its someone with a (D) next to their name and Democrats only care when its someone with an (R) next to their name.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
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sad but true
gunslinger107 2 years ago
turkx
oslong 2 years ago