Anti-FreeKeene blowback begins (Free Talk Live)

[truckindawg1]

I'm all for freedom and free will but to me , and maybe I'm wrong but it seems like you guys are out " looking for a fight" that would not be there if you didn't go out of your way to provoke it. That is a way to turn ,even the people who support you off. Like the open carry laws in California. I'm all for it but some of them provoke trouble then scream foul. What say you?

[preparation88]

How about the pseudo-masturbating game? You bring brown beer bottles in and pretend those phallus shaped bottles are the objects of your desire! Double fisted!

Not obscene, if obscene, tone it down until it isn't. How's that for a game?

Get my point?

[slewofdamascus]

I'm aserious person, but I can also look within and see the farcical nature of my ego. What's wrong with playing along with the farce that is "city council meetings" by playing the drinking game? I actually LOVE the drinking game @Keene City Council and if the council had any kind of self-perception, they would play right along. Instead, they rachet the screws of this farce even tighter. The DG @ KCC is merely a reflection of the council itself; it's a farce saying hello to itself. Don't stop.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

The problem I have with the FK and FSP people is that they desire an extremely anti-social system based on "stateless capitalism". I'm sorry but that's not the way it works in real life. The capitalist system can't survive without a state to hold it together and never has. A much better way of ending the state is to do what the Spanish anarchists did in Catalonia and establish workers' councils and participatory institutions. Besides, that wins you more friends.

watch?v=sRrBn1MKlCI

[dadhadit]

good job

[settlesdown]

@HowlingStatic That may be. I don't know enough to argue about that. Its the way they used to salute in Europe. It dates back to Rome. I just thought it was an interesting image to show. But honestly, what really bothered me was the disrespect to the flag. You don't have to honor it; but you don't have to be disrespectful. Doing shit like that hurts your credibility.  It makes you easier to alienate. No one relates to that kind of shit.

[settlesdown]

okay, you had me until you started your flag shit. I appreciate what you are doing for gun rights and against the Law Enforcement racket. But I don't know why you felt obligated to show a bunch of Nazi youths doing their straight armed salute. You don't have to stand up and salute the flag but you don't have to be a dick either. If you are eating dinner at someone house and they say grace do you sit quietly and let them finish or do you start acting like a fucking idiot to disrupt them?

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

I agree with some of what they said about the pledge and the state. They're right: we shouldn't worship the state. But is worshipping the market any better? Worshipping gold or money? Worshipping private property? How is "stateless capitalism" supposed to be free when things like capitalist bosses, landlords, class divisions, etc. still exist?

[somecomputergeek]

I love that question "Do you hate America?". It's just such a mind-bogglingly stupid question.

The fact is, I love America. I just hate the governmental institutions that are destroying her.

[klaptongroovemaster]

This is awesome. 100% completely harmless, but in-your-face mockery of these pompous jerks who would rule their little portion of the world.

What was the keyword for the drinking game?

[campaign4liberty]

the truth

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website

[MrSuperJuden]

keep it up keene. These people that moan about how you act, never protested or fought for anything.

[samlowrey63]

This is NOT the kind of liberty demonstration I would be proud of. I agree with poops, you are just acting like two year olds. You have to ask yourself, is this a demonstration promoting our cause or is it mainly antagonizing and alienating people we want to attract?

[samlowrey63]

What are you protesting?

[eneffect]

5:00 yeah he does sound like a Polack

[reapfreak]

I have to start looking into nuclear plants in NH. Once I graduate with my degree in nuclear engineering I think I'm gonna have to move to support the Free State Project. And it looks like I'd get some decent support up there.

[poopstreek]

Turning your back on the flag, and faking drinking just to bait cops in meetings...

I give you guys a D-

I don't think that anything in this video did ANYTHING for the good of liberty. I like the RidleyReport, but if this sort of pettiness is going to be celebrated, I won't watch anymore. It hurts our cause to act like children.

[reapfreak]

@poopstreek The police are just paranoid thugs who do the dirty work for the state, and the Pledge is disgusting in the exceptionalism and propaganda (especially towards young children) so I think bringing attention to these facts is a positive. Given the counter argument is "I got a gun! Do what I say!" I don't think our side really has to do much other than merely point that fact out. Everyone tries to ignore the state works by force, but the point of disobedience is to point it out.

[poopstreek]

@reapfreak I agree with civil disobedience... But at about an 11th grade level.

This is 1rst, or 2nd grade level stuff.

[thanosied]

@poopstreek I wouldn't call this civil disobedience as much as living as a free person. Unfortunately, living as a free person can be a dangerous thing to do when done around the agents of an oppressive state. So, living as a free person along side others who want to do the same seems like a safe bet since there is power in numbers. Real civil disobedience would be along the lines of MLK or Ghandi. Hopefully, there will one day be that much support in the Free Society Project...

[whoo689]

teetotalers are hilarious. "You can't buy liquor except in a state-run store." "You can't buy liquor here at all" "You can't drink on public streets even if you're not drunk" "You can't drink at a city council meeting." What a bunch of assholes. Have they not heard of MODERATION? Abstinence doesn't work.

[DeraJa]

this isn't agorism. Screw civil disobedience. Start growing the counter economy.

[slewofdamascus]

However, when I realized the truth "of things", I came to understand how manipulative the process of indoctrination has become, because it has become obvious that the ideals I associated with the USA were not being adhered to by the most powerful, most influential members of our culture-nation, many of whom talk the talk as a means of decption, etc. If, by standing for the POA, I am giving some kind of tacit approval for how my government behaves, than I cannot stand, today, and face the flag.

[mercen144]

When are people just going to accept living in a authoritarian fascist police state? You have no rights. Never did and never will.

There is only one route for liberty minded people.

[slewofdamascus]

It has been said that "patriotism is the last bastion of scoundrels" and, by and large, this is true, in my experience. Unlike one of the guests on ftl, my forefathers came to this country well before the union of 13 was created, and many of them, before and after, died in one action or another, and others still were involved in pub. serv. of one kind or another, a few at the highest levels, and so, I guess I have always felt compelled to believe in the best ideals of this "experiment" nation.

[oldtimefreedom]

at least in the pledge they admit we are a republic....90% of people think we are a democracy

[InTheEndIWasRight]

Statism is a religion and the State is just a virus of the mind.

[piketyl000]

LOL thats awesome

[DominicMetal1979]

1) Man that's horrible... breaking into someone's house and shooting that poor dog. They're covered with Kevlar and have thick gloves. One of them could have just held the dog. Makes me mad.

2) A criminal record will affect you so many times in your life -- jobs, apartments, volunteering, increased sentencing for future convictions, etc. While I see the activists' point, I don't think it's worth getting yourself a bunch of misdemeanors over. Why not just comply & then spread the video of it?

[libertyfizz]

So are more of the anti-FSP people other than officials fighting activist?

[sharpie443]

He's the Mayor weather you like it or not but other than that it was a good video.

[Dewdaahman]

I hope none of these people ever get into the position if leadership in this country.. they are equivalent of the drivers of the bobsled that we're on, headed to hell.. imho.. they have the right idea but are lacking in the approach area..

[ekeyra]

Government meeting drinking games. best fucking idea ever.

[BeantownJim]

One nation under God!

[CurtHowland]

@BeantownJim Which god?

[BeantownJim]

good job!

[Krampfarsch]

hey dave, which programm do you use for videoediting?

greetings from germany

[CurtHowland]

@Krampfarsch I asked him once, it's a Windows program so I don't remember.

I use Cinelerra.

[NARCOPOLO76]

This is so funny! I love it.

[OhMyGoog]

Ridley....your videos make my day. Everyday.