Thrand and Eldgrimr's Responce to Lock N' Load Blades

[IronCoredKnight]

viking vs knight

whats your bet thrand???

[RobertStarrHaile]

I intend no disrespect, but I'm afraid the breastplate used in this video isn't a proper representation either. You really shouldn't be seeing this kind of damage to a well made piece of armor, even while completely stationary. I would much prefer to see this test done with a properly heat treated breastplate. I guarantee you wouldn't see any penetration or denting.

That said, R. Lee Ermey's display on lock and load was nonsense. It's a real shame to see him perpetuating such myths.

[RobertStarrHaile]

@RobertStarrHaile To follow up on my own post...Ermey's use of both swords was downright laughable. They really should have got a professional practioner of both styles instead of trusting the test to someone completely untrained. They also only invited a Japanese sword student to monitor the tests. I think it's quite obvious that the whole ordeal was biased and perhaps even staged. European swords excel Japanese swords in most areas of performance.

[vidman04]

Now lets see a video of a Katana versus a .357 Magnum!

[mikefulcher03AUG2000]

Good idea but it don't matter. It's the warrior, not the sword. A good fighter can use a butter knife if he wanted. A samurai was a warrior who lived by the sword and died by the sword. The armor they had was so strong that they were taught to only go for the weak points so they would'nt damage the blade. They also don't block strikes with the blade but instead use the back of the blade to protect the edge. Not the same with a longsword. It was basicly a somewhat sharp steal club.

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I would say it's exactly the same. Other than that the knight would probably block with the flat (there's no back on a longsword). Why do you think that the longsword is "a somewhat sharp steel club"? None of the medieval manuscripts shows this.

[mikefulcher03AUG2000]

@gurkfisk89 The way the knight used the longsword shows it wasn't made to be extremely sharp or used as a precision weapon unlike the katana. The knight would use the longsword for arm locks and to trip his opponent, even holding onto the blade for some of these moves. You would never hold the katana by the blade because it was so sharp.

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I can somewhat agree with you that the longsword probably wasn't /as sharp/ as a katana but it wasn't that far away either. It was still sharp enough to cut a man in half and easily cut off limbs. The trick with halfswording (gripping the blade) is not to slip, even the sharpest edge will not simply press into you, you need a sliding motion.

For the precision thing, I can't see why it wouldn't be at least on par with the katana.

[mikefulcher03AUG2000]

@gurkfisk89 A spoon swung fast enough can cut. How sharp is a real longsword compared to a real katana. There is no contest there. The longsword edge was made by grinding until sharp, it would last but dull quickly. The katana's polishing and sharpening were the same thing. It would make a cleaner edge that could hold far longer. And you would cut yourself trying to hold a real katana blade, they are really that sharp when done correctly.

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I will start and apologize that this will be a wall of text but I hope you don't mind that. First I just want to point out that everything about swords are trade offs so a best sword is impossible. A sharper edge will cut better but be less durable. I will come back to this when I talk about balance.

I want to quote a few comments from the youtube user "Protherium" because he has done more research about the sharpness issue than me. So here they come:

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

So there you go, yes this shows that when comparing these katanas to these european sword the katana was sharper when we look at the edge angles. But not by much. So I stand by my point that while longswords wasn't /as sharp/ as katanas they where nearly as sharp. It was clearly sharp enough in some cases to cut a man in half or cut limbs of. (Skeletons has ben found after battle with both legs cut off with a single cut).

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I think the more important reason you don't hold the katana by the edge is that you have a nice back of it that you can use with much more ease.

You see a lot of "halfswording" (I wonder what the japanese word is) in the beginning of this clip:

/watch?v=N3cpPRBlnwc

Things like mordhau would probably not be as usefull with a katana with much of the weight in the blade and not in the pommel.

[mikefulcher03AUG2000]

@gurkfisk89 A katana made correctly was perfectly balanced. At about 3 lbs. the weight of the blade is equal to the handle.

[mikefulcher03AUG2000]

And they never "halfsword".

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I'm not saying that halfswording was common. I don't know about that, I'm not that versed in katana fencing. But it seems that it was used at some times at least.

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

When it comes to balance there is no perfect thing for swords. We are talkning about moment of inertia here. A more blade heavy sword will have more MOI and that will aid in a cut. With less moment of inertia you will not be able to deliver as nasty cuts but you have better point control and will be able to swing your sword faster.

[gurkfisk89]

@mikefulcher03AUG2000

I've heard about katanas with a point of balance from just above the tsuba to about 4-6 inches above the tsuba. This would be up to the samurai to decide what he wants.

Now to longswords. They also weights about 3 lbs. and the balance point varies alot but often about a few inches from the crossguard. So it's very similar to the katana.

[catdogbill]

thrand is a weapon master maybe in wow

[IronCoredKnight]

can you tell me what sword models you used on this video? they seem worth buying...

[SpartanAceMe2]

I cannot take this test at face value. You are testing a Viking longsword on a breastplate already weakened by the katana test. I know you aren't loaded or anything, however the test would hold more water had there been a second breastplate to test the Viking longsword on. Now while I admit that the Lock 'n Load test my not have been 100% accurate, it had a piece of "armor" with two different sides for the weapons to be tested on. But just my opinion.

[Ehrhen]

@SpartanAceMe2 He hit lower with the Viking sword than he did the katana.

[SpartanAceMe2]

@Ehrhen So? I know he hit lower, but my point still stands. Think of it like this. If I were to smash a steel plate with a sledgehammer would it still be at it's peak durability if I came back and hit it six inches away with different sledgehammer? No it would not. The second hammer blow would have a much more noticeable effect. Yes I realize that hammers and swords are different as is iron and steel but the fact is the swords still struck in the same general area.

[Ehrhen]

@SpartanAceMe2 I see what you're saying, however he did come back later to try again with the katana.

[SpartanAceMe2]

@Ehrhen And while it didn't achieve the desired effect, it did do more and more damage every time he hit it. I'm not saying it was a bad test, it wasn't. It was just limited by the funds available. I would be able to put more stock in it if it weren't for the limitations that I know where there.

[DaUsher]

Wouldn't someone also be wearing padding under their breastplate?

[MrAlepedroza]

The only thing I complain about is the audio, Thrand. Many people whose mother language (like me) is not English are going to have a very hard time trying to understand what you're saying because of the enviromental sound. Try improving the audio.

Anyway, very objective and accurate again, guys.

[hellwolf882]

Hey a quick question what is that breast plate made out of? it looks more like iron or low carbon steel and it dosent seem to have a temper on it

[CrowJam]

Btw, could you make a video testing arrows vs various armors? I always wondered how it all worked

[CrowJam]

Id love to see you make vids about some kind of fighting techniques or just spar with someone ( seriously )

[DalirKRuiz]

Thrand is a weapon master, can wield effectively a lot of different weapons, gives the world historically accurate teachings about ancient warriors, and also wears cool glasses! Men this guy is awesome.

[ThegnThrand]

@DalirKRuiz Thanks :P

[Fluffisnoterm]

I guess this video just goes ahead and proves what many martial arts practitioners and instructors have known for a long time. So long as you're talking of a high end weapon, it's not the weapon that matters, it's the warrior using it. Thank you for showing some actual fair testing. I'm saying that as a friend of the katana. :)

[ThegnThrand]

@Fluffisnoterm I have a nice Katana for the Wrap up Of Spartan Vs. Ninja / Samurai if we can actually get it finished in the works ATM :D

[Fluffisnoterm]

@ThegnThrand

I'm sure I'm not the only one who would welcome that. :D

[DeludoSui]

Why does this have so few views compared to the other ones.

Props man, I envy you being able to mess around with that equipment.

[Hell6125]

Why cut through armor when the force of the blow can do internal damage to the person? Its the shock of the blow that does the damage

[WitheringintheDark]

@Hell6125

Somewhat true, but the armor itself and the padding underneath it tends to absorb much of the impact, like the sports gear, riot gear, and forced entry units of today.

[MeibukanMaster]

The key to killing with a sword is not to try and hack through armour that you know stands up, but to work around where the armours weak or where there's no armour.

[TheDardanianKnight]

The Katana (Wakizashi) you used was a bad reproduction, i know because i bought the very same "Katana"(model) in a novelty shop in china town when i was 12 years old...

But, i do agree with you that you can’t determine which sword is better like "lock & load" did with their katana and long sword –it’s just not that easy to test, you would have to do hundreds of tests (durability and sharpness) in various ways to determine which is better..

it’s just not that easy to determine which is better...

[Protherium]

@TheDardanianKnight

"The Katana (Wakizashi) you used was a bad reproduction"

Have you seen other videos from Thrand? This katana was used extensively agianst maille, bone and was even stuck in a viking shield with force. It survived it all, being still paper-sharp, so I guess this one is a good quality replica. Cheap wallhangers you speak of usually shatter after a couple of blows, especially wallhanger grips are prone to instant breakage. None of it is seen here.

[Hyperdog456]

well a sharped fully sharped katana is illegal were I come from no mater what even a blunt one raises suspicions

[Hyperdog456]

Katana has been blunted as it's illegal to have a fully sharped one

[WitheringintheDark]

@Hyperdog456

no, it's not. Even you actually watched his other videos you'll see it's Damn sharp. Regardless, sharpness doesn't mean shit against metal armor, it can' cut through it.

[WitheringintheDark]

@WitheringintheDark

Bleh, can't rather.

[rabbitlugsify]

@Hyperdog456

A "sharp" blade is known as "live" and these are commonplace in dojos. Perfectly legal for such activities as Tameshigiri.

[WitheringintheDark]

@rabbitlugsify

As well, it has been shown through several sources that a katana can't cut through or pierce even quality maille armor.

[ThegnThrand]

@WitheringintheDark A katana can not cut through a quality piece of riveted mail armor it is impossible for any sword to do this :P

[Sn33zingPanda]

You're not using the katana right you are swinging it like a baseball bat. To correctly swing the tip first with the rest of the blade following.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

Hard to hear over the wind... BUT LOVE THE VID!

[mlwwlm]

A Sword MIGHT pierce plate, but it would require all your strength, both hands and absolute commitment to the blow. If you're lucky you might penetrate the plate by as far as an inch, which unfortunately for you means your sword is likely stuck in the armour padding of an uninjured man. Who will promptly cut your stupid head off for being such an idiot.

[SmokeyBud]

I wonder what damage a nodachi would do to that armor, if you would run towards the armor like a mad nodachi samurai horde charging into battle, striking out the nodachi with a huge impetus, like they would do when they finally collide with the enemy forces. I bet it would break :P

And maybe sharpen the blade before duelling with the unarmed armor :D

[k00lkane]

Kool! I like your reviews and the way you do them, good honest fact based conclusions!

Although I would say to get a better quality katana ( it didn't look to great) what katana is it because I may be wrong? But yeah don't mean to be a katana hugger but maybe a hanwei blade... And what medieval sword is that also?

[ThegnThrand]

@EvilDarkJackel I state this is subjective to the weapons compared. This would not be the result for every long sword or every katana main factor is weight and yes handle length but the shape against plate makes very little difference in the actual crushing potential.

For our Spartan Vs. Ninja / Samurai we will be using a far better katana / O-Wakizashi for comparison.

Also we will be having a simulated fight between an average Samurai style and Viking sword and shield style no rules upcoming

[WitheringintheDark]

@ThegnThrand

So what do you think the breastplate Ermey tested was made of? Railstarfish has replicated what was done with the longsword in the video with a blunt training sword, and judging by the fact it didn't cut the leather, we've deduced that it wasn't sharpened at all.

We've been thinking that the plate they used was a costume plate for stage play, maybe stainless steel or weak untempered mild steel, maybe even aluminum. Can't tell how thick it was from the vid however.

[norseczar27]

do you think Vlad's Killij sword could cut through plate?

[ThegnThrand]

@norseczar27 No sword will cut through plate.

[schuimbanaan]

@ThegnThrand

How about a Macuahuitl? Obviously not the pre-gunpowder plates.. But a hussar plate?

[aquilonian]

@ThegnThrand this guy did. watch?v=sQbCMh4GYZo but I dont think thats what you had in mind

[TheLoki7281]

@aquilonian

youre comparing a butterknife with a catana... in your vidio ther is just an iron "plate", cutting from an edge... not a tempered steel plate cutting from the front.. big differens.. very, very big differens

[rabbitlugsify]

@ThegnThrand

Depends whose hands it's in:

/watch?v=RyO46RQhYkQ

[WitheringintheDark]

@rabbitlugsify

I saw no plate being cut through there. Only a paper thin(0.4mm) sheet of questionable quality metal, neither hardened nor heat treated in any way, and struck on the edge of the sheet, not the flat of it like you would with actual armor.

Paper thin untreated metal doesn't even remotely compare to actual armor. The katana couldn't even cut through the samurai's own armor, it's why they wore it.

[rabbitlugsify]

@WitheringintheDark

I believe that is sheet steel, a feat that is deemed impossible. How's about this?

shinkendo[dotcom]/ kabuto.html

I personally have trained with a katana, iaito and shinken for some years and have never tried metal cutting, but I have cut through a variety of other media. The art of cutting with a japanese curved sword is to slice, not bash and many demonstrations I see are more of a bash.

[WitheringintheDark]

@rabbitlugsify

I.. didn't quite understand. Which feat is deemed as impossible? Cutting the sheet? Thrand here cuts a 0.8mm sheet using a similar setup to that show and cuts through it easily with a One handed sword. Like I said, an untreated, unhardened sheet of steel doesn't get anywhere close to real armor. It was also struck on the thinnest point(the edge) which you can't do on real armor. Cutting at the edge has vastly different results then cutting at the flat side.

[WitheringintheDark]

@rabbitlugsify

i've seen that record before, and while interesting, i've never seen the quality of the items quantified. For instance, was it made of iron, or steel(most i've seen were iron)? If steel, what grade of steel? Was it hardened and to what degree(in VPH)? How thick was it?

The test was also done on an unyielding surface at knee level using the most powerful kind of strike(downward chop) which is rather impractical and nearly suicidal in an actual fight vs a standing opponent.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@ThegnThrand Were did you get this plat armor at? I want on!

[DeludoSui]

@ThegnThrand Would love to see you test out the killij or some of the other middle eastern weaponry... if you can get it.

[wharghoul]

@ThegnThrand Correction: No human being will cut through plate. It's possible that the sword is capable of doing it, but it is not possible for a human to swing it hard enough to do it.

Splitting hairs, I know, but still.

[hellwolf882]

@wharghoul Ehh man ur more likely to roll the edge on a sword then cut through plate

[mrfuzzybunnie]

@norseczar27 its impossibly for a sword to cut through plate, you have to rely on blunt force for plate

[rehwr]

Wow you are easily butthurt over a TV Show! Man is this biased!

[TheUsrper1]

Thrand, thank you for posting these videos. I love seeing someone comparing European and Asian weapons with sense. Its always good to see you giving honest opinions about each weapon. What would work with it, what doesn't, and what you would personally do to alter it. I hope you do keep up the good work and hopefully, one day, Deadliest Warrior and Lock'N'Load will redo their testing. Although LNL seems to be discontinued. Strength and honor Thrand.

[blossfechter]

That's not a longsword. It's just a Viking sword.

[demomanchaos]

I'd like to see a test between a Japanese nodachi and a western great sword (like a Scottish Claymore or a Gothic Flammenschwert). It would be interesting to see how the big blades compare to each other.

[ThegnThrand]

@demomanchaos Awesome Idea:P

[IronCoredKnight]

i know you like viking stuff, but i dont think that was the best longsword for the job, correct me if im wrong, most viking blades have lenticular cross-sections which are great for slashing unarmored oponents bc it gets more mass behind the blow but not so good against plate.

I think the longsword would do better with an hexagonal cross-section like those of Oakeshott type XVII...

as for the katana it did a pretty god job considering it is katana...

also i got a question: where u bought plate?

[ThegnThrand]

@IronCoredKnight We did this test becasue people requested to see it with the 9th century long sword :P

[ThegnThrand]

@IronCoredKnight A good friend of mine that is an armorer made the plate :P

[IronCoredKnight]

@ThegnThrand

He sells them?

[volarion]

Your videos seem to be the only sane weapons comparisons on youtube

[nivarion]

The winner here? The breastplate. I've said before, people didn't wear that stuff because it made them cute and hugable.

[ThegnThrand]

@nivarion Very true !!! although the sword blows with the long sword would have hurt if not killed him due to the impact damage the katana did pretty good too but with a heavier model it would have been even.

[JHanson712]

Hey Thrand, have you seen the Conquest series with Peter Woodward? It makes Locked and Loaded seem like your videos in comparison. What do you think of them?

[ThegnThrand]

@JHanson712 Yes very good series if it is the one I am thinking of but he used butted mail to test in it :P

[Llyranon]

I thought viking longswords were normally quite light, in the two pound range? Just curious about the source of yours?

[ThegnThrand]

@Llyranon Normally 3 to 4 lbs becasue of length and they wanted the weight of blow to break bones through armor. Also at that time light blades would break or bend to easy in the 9th century. A Saex or Sax (short sword) could be 2lbs possibly but for holmganga they again would be heavy up to 3 lbs or so.

[Oozaru400dbevolution]

What kind of steel are the swords? Those things have been put through hell!

[Protherium]

Another great video Thrand!!

There is a myth that plate armor can be cut with swords, like they do it in RPG's, Anime or Hollywood. In connection with Katana-hype it gets even worse, people even believe that plate and maille were completely useless, after watching Lock-n-Load and all the butted-mail-tests.

It's great that someone like you and Elgrimir are there to get it right. May the Gods bless your family!

[Earthenfist]

Might want to invest in a wind baffle for your microphone. There's parts of your vids that I can't hear at all because of the wind.

[ThegnThrand]

@Earthenfist Sorry we are working on that wind problem :P

[toxi87]

i'm not really surprised that the katana didn't thrust very well it dosen't realy much of a thrusting tip but really good test you guys always enjoy the videos.

[Gaddesreinhart]

I'm glad you did a response video to this episode of Lock N' Load Thrand. Lock N Load is a good show when they talk about the various types of guns, but that Blades episode was a train wreck. that Breastplate they used was probably a very cheap copy. And the dreaded butted mail reared it's ugly head again. Honesty, that episode should have been called "30 Minute Advertisement for the Katana."

[norseczar27]

What is a good site to buy authentic Viking Long swords and authentic Ninja weapons?

[elgostine]

@norseczar27 ninja weapons? for the sword id suggest the chenness oniyuri, thats apparently a god approximation.

for vikings, it depends on the level of quality, because indlass steelcrafts, cold steel and hanweui all have viking style swords of varying levels of quality

[Railstarfish]

Great work! I think this also shows just how well a breastplate does against swords. About the caving in from the blows, how much padding do you think would be worn underneath and how much difference would you expect it to make?

[WitheringintheDark]

@Railstarfish

From what I remember, they were often 20-30 layers of thick linen and such, possibly 1/2 to 1inch thick. As for potential difference, for one it would prevent the caved in portion of the breastplate from slamming into your sternum and cracking it, so you'll only have to deal with the force transfer, which shouldn't be much more then a buff fighter cracking you in the chest with padding(i.e. manageable with proper breathing and preparation)

[Railstarfish]

@WitheringintheDark Thanks. That sounds like a major difference.

[ThegnThrand]

@Railstarfish That one is designed to set on the chest at the top some are made different. the wore an arming jacket under it made of gambeson. I have pillow under it but it is mounted to an unmovable tree :P I should try thrust again with out pillow for a comparison.

[Railstarfish]

@ThegnThrand You make a fair point. A tree has little to fear from impact damage. :D

[WitheringintheDark]

Nice vid buddy. Looking forward to seeing the ice block demonstration, even though it's ultimately pointless(it doesn't represent Anything either sword would encounter in it's intended uses)

I'm curious, what are the specs of the breastplate? Thickness, steel type, ect. I noticed it wasn't polished(which would help deflect thrusts, and prevents blades from catching and biting in as badly)

Biggest problem with armor testing is armor can always be thicker, tighter(in mail) or face hardened ect.

[WitheringintheDark]

So the tests are really only representative of that specific armor.

I'm also skeptic of all 'killing impact' assessments. I know law enforc. has a scale it uses, but i've heard that 1 is only for penetrative force impacts that pierce the skin, not purely blunt force trauma. I've seen people take far harder hits than anything on that scale and be unaffected, and if anything proper breathing is and prep is more important to mitigate most potential damage(i.e. don't have air in your lungs when hit)

[ThegnThrand]

@WitheringintheDark I am saying that from how much it caved in and how it rest on your chest. My long sword is a heavy weapon that is why my was made for me by a good friend who passed away not long ago. He did that because he knew I used very heavy long swords. I call that sword SteinaKljufar (StoneCleaver) not becasue of the edge but the balance and weight. The video was done to show the test is subjective to the weapons. some katana would have done better depending on weight and balance.

[ThegnThrand]

@WitheringintheDark Was told it was 18 gauge slightly temper which appears true on temper but it seems thicker than that more like 16 gauge or an of in between measure. He heated and hammered it is not cold hammered like most SCA armor meaning he was going for authentic late century plate. I did a bow test on it once left the same dimple from the long sword. That is why I said for the Kusarigama to have pierced it was amazing and I believe it would have done the same gauge bronze easy.

[WitheringintheDark]

@ThegnThrand

Hmm 16ga? About 1.25mm or so I think? Isn't that a bit thin? I was under the impression that most breastplate and helm ranged from 2-4mm thick, with the greaves and other pieces being between 1-2mm to conserve on weight.

[ThegnThrand]

@WitheringintheDark almost all Bronze pieces found were around 18 gauge just like most late century plate although the steel plate had special tempering process to give it strength. 16 gauge is not unheard of in the steel era though but n o bronze thicker has been found from test I have heard with padding 18 gauge bronze does great against the weapons of the bronze and iron age.Barry Jacobsen said 16 gauge bronze was right but there is no historical proof other than text that talk of heavy armor

[MrHerrIQ]

You should be youtube partners and earn money for every view you get.

I've noticed you have several thousend views.

You could earn some money from it.

Good as always!

[kolotiti]

Hello, nice video. When i watched LockNLoaded i thought why did they choose such thin and flexible longsword. Why didnt they choose an earlyer broadsword or warsword. Another thing i practice with a german 15 c. longsword and in that document he used the longsword wrong. Also in my opinion he cutted with wrong part of the sword. I think he would have more cuttingpower on the last 1/3 of the blade. Btw thanks for making videos showing inacurate parts of documentarys.

[ThegnThrand]

@kolotiti Thanks that program bothered me as well because every one uses it to put down European swords thinking they are all the same and no swords are not all the same wither it be Japanese or European :P

[EhSteve8690]

@kolotiti Didn't Lock n Loaded also use butted mail? If so, it sounds even more like a biased commercial for Japanese weapons.

[kolotiti]

@EhSteve8690 Katanas are fine sword good for cutting and slashing.Evry sword is deadly in hands of a skilled swordsman.But i dont like when someone makes katanas god weapons. The cut on iceblock was done with first half of the sword is like a golf player would try to hit ball with first half of stick.The cut on leather was done from side, not like with katana.The most powerfull longsword cut is "zornhau" vertikal cut from shoulder.Also as Trand sad they used a dueling sword for unarmored combat.

[ThegnThrand]

@EhSteve8690 Yes they did used Butted mail when the tested the longbow.

[ThegnThrand]

@kolotiti That is what our Well of Remembrance is set up to do contest such test and claims and inaccurate Historical information about ancient warriors. Why becasue most of these people died wanting to be remembered story's told of them and and not to be misunderstood or made joke out of like buffoons for profit. If they misrepresent the arms and armor and how they were used this causes dishonor to them as well. We wish to help show the truth and bring honor to every ones Valorous dead.

[Giagantus]

@ThegnThrand Not to be a hater, but do they deserved to be remembered. I mean if the warrior in question was rapist baby killer...then honoring him would dishonor his victims. I don't think people should glorify violence and violent people. I do approve of you showing how the weapons should be used etc, that's knowledge and and knowledge is not "bad". My point is be careful with glorification. Love what u guys do though. Keep uo with good work

[ThegnThrand]

@Giagantus Vikings did not rape they are documented as committing Rapine meaning to abduct rape was against viking law killing baby's was not done either , a young son could be killed along with the father in ancient times who may come avenge his father ( a standard practice) this happened because of the  fear of being killed later because of revenge but was still considered a crime by Scandinavian law which also states one can not attack merchants,merchant ships and women and children

[Giagantus]

@ThegnThrand I never actually never said the vikings raped I said warriors. But besides that yes vikings most certainly did rape. I am fully aware of the laws and the whole "blood vengeance" (freely translated). The Norse had a law against rape, which concernerned viking women. I the rapist was was not found HIS brother could be condemned for the rape .So yes they did rape otherwise they wouldn't a law for it. And laws have always been broken and warriors have alwats enjoyed their "booty"

[ThegnThrand]

@Giagantus They would not rape openly in front of others is what I meant .every culture has rape and evil men it was not condoned and there is no documentation of it on an actual raid !!!

[WoWJunky2007]

Thrand i would love to see a video on a response to the Celtic vs Persian ...or maybe even just use of the celtic barbed spear

[ThegnThrand]

@WoWJunky2007 We are working on doing more episodes and yes that would be a good one and would love to do it :P

[Spartiatai300]

@WoWJunky2007 Celts used many spear designs, the barbed spear is just one of them. Thats the issue with doing certain warriors, you can't just use one weapon and say it represents a warrior.