im always fascinated with the number stations ... so it's fun to find someone posting about it.:) reminds me of being a kid and making codes only we would know.
It's kind of funny, the government was quoted as saying "People should not be asking about numbers stations, because they shouldn't be listening to them." It's kind of saying "You shouldn't ask about what's in the box, because you shouldn't be near it." That means they're DEFINITELY hiding something.
why do people listen to number stations and document the numbers etc?
I mean... yeah, it is encrypted message that is being sent to agents of different intelligence agencies around the world to execute missions or what not...
but its encrypted and you have no way to decrypt it in a million years, so what is the point of it all? yeah its cool... but listening to it once is more than enough to get the idea, what is the point of keeping on listening to it another day or document it..??
@peniosasdasd its not on the same logical level really...
whats the point in going to the moon or wanting to go to mars? because we will in the future...
whats the point in learning an instrument? to play it in the future.
whats the point in watching videos on youtube? well, some of us for knowledge, that are some really worthy videos out there, not everything is youtube poop
with that logic i understand that you people listen and document in hope to crack it?
In a matter of speaking. It's the same reason like mystery novels or movies. Things that tantalize you. The same reason I'm interested in all kinds of black helicopter loony theories and conspiracies, because even if there's nothing sinister going on at all it's still fun to have some leeway on reality.
Not to diminish the idea that numbers stations are some kind of spy thing.
Some creepy things can be heard through the static on dark nights, my friend.
And the best part of this mystery is that you know there is a solid answer out there somewhere. There could be some dark and sinister figure behind the broadcasting of stations like this, and hence is hidden from society. Or on the other hand it could be nothing, and not even important enough to tell anyone. But what one man finds pointless another can find fascinating you know?
Yeah, I know about all the Russian nuclear ops. Its bad enough about how real the concept of nuclear war is, they had to name that fail-safe "Dead Hand" to really seal the deal. Lets be thankful that it isn't totally controlled by automated machines, and that people like Stanislav Petrov and Vasili Arkhipov were around to prevent armageddon.
@peniosasdasd Youre not wrong. Apparently "Dead Hand" always had the human element though, so it wasnt totally automated, but according to semi-official sources, the USSR did have the blueprints for a totally automated "Doomsday" weapon. I wonder how long it was before some high up Ivan in the Kremlin thought "Hang on a minute..."
I am an admin of a number stations research group and website, priyom.org
Go check it out. Yep uvb-76 is still buzzing away on 4625, recorded over 100 messages on there this year. Been very active. again, go check out the site and have fun :D keep your eyes on those shortwaves!
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
What kind of radio do you use? I know absolutely nothing about this and was trying to read up on it... Is it shortwave, or another type? Number stations are so crazy! Damn they creep me out
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
There are still a few of these "spy" number stations that are active. Cuba is the most common, seems they are "stuck" in the fifties! The number stations as they are called use a "One Time Pad" of code and is impossible to decipher save for the users. A common entertainment going back to the 1700s and earlier was to write letters in ciphers or codes. Leonardo da Vinci wrote backwards on his notes and that goes back to the 1400s! Number stations remain a mystery as they were intended to be.
Well, If these frequencies are reserved ONLY to governative communications, such as Police or Army, it could be considered "against law" to listen to it. But if they lie within international radio-amateur-bands, they should be audible by everybody that is interested in them. It is not dangerous to listen to them, but it could seriously become so if anybody tries to transmit in these frequencies, thereafter imitating a real message even for fun
i,m an ex poacher (british army) and i served in akitori ,wierd eh. although some of these are used by drug trafficing and other illeagle trades,never heard this when i was there and we messed about with allsorts of comms,
I lived in the Arabian Gulf for a few years and I could pick up the Lincolnshire Poacher and E10 (Mossad) around the clock on my little Sony 7600G. E10 was especially active...pretty much broadcast at the top of every hour.
Unknown without having the key to decipher the message. I guess that if we knew what the transmission is saying, we would not be discussing about it ;)
Some dare to say that numbers stations have been lying around since WW2 or so, which sounds logical. Definitely, the existance of such stations can be traced back to the Cold War days. Lincolnshire Poacher is amongst the longest running stations of its kind, if my sources are good.
It's kind of contradictory actually, because no government will ever aknowledge the existance of these stations, and on the other hand, some of them can also (or have, in the past) prosecute people that listens to them :)
They would not be so worried if they had nothing to hide, don't you think? :)
stg7, The CIA have recently sanctioned a book written 'Spycraft' by Robert Wallace. Wallace is the former director of the CIAs office of technical services. Such broadcasts as these are known as one way links. All you need is a simply shortwave radio to receive them. The codes are unbreakable because only the agent and handler know the codes (one time pads). The problems arise when the pads and spies are caught with them.....
Listening to the number stations isn't illegal, well, at least in free countries. The thing that makes short wave transmissions a perfect way for secret messages and codes to be transmitted, is you can't tell who listening. The codes are quite complicated, usually, and change on a daily, if not hourly or even at random times in a schedule.
@IC2720 strangely it IS STILL illegal in the UK to listen to any of these radio number stations..wireless and telecommunications act 1967 passed by that well know MP Tony Benn!postmaster general under Harold Wilson's government
@stg7 Some even go to say that the stations where around during world war one, I'm not certain about it as I have not done any background research myself. But according to a friend of a friend they could have been around then. I want to get a short wave radio just to listen to these haha!
Both the Russians and US have caught spies red-handed with the broadcast lists and the one-time pads. For example U.S citizen Ana Belen Montes was caught spying for the Cubans in 2001. She failed to follow procedures and wipe her laptop after copying her Cuban voice broadcast. The FBI were able to decipher her instructions and convict her of spying for a foreign power. The recent Cuban spies caught in the US have the Cuban morse broadcasts mentioned in their indictment.
@SanasSweetMode apparently the station broadcast for nearly 20 years. apparently the first time it was heard broadcasting was december 1988, and it went off the air towards the end of june 2008.
I was given an old radio its a Marc Pathfinder Model NR-52F1.LW 145-400Khz, MW 530-1600Khz, MB 1.6-4.0Mhz, SW1 4.0-8.0Mhz, SW2 8.0-12Mhz, SW3 12-18Mhz, SW4 18-30Mhz. The FM bands range 66-174Mhz and UHF 430-470Mhz.Could you tell me what i should tune to to pick stuff up like this? or would i need a digital air scanner? Thnx in advance :)
It's sad that the Lincolnshire Poacher (and Cherry Ripe) seem to have gone off air. :( The end of an era. Fortunately great people have uploaded videos! :)
the strange thing is that in the uk it is ILLEGAL to listen to one of these number stations!
there used to be one called magderburg annie which was run by the east german stasie...the only time M.I.^ got there hands on a one time pad the decoded messages where mostly complants from the stasie about there spys expence accounts!...
There is actually a genius behind using both a crude code like a one time pad(Vernam cipher) and "outdated" shortwave radio. I mean who the hell even listens to shortwave anymore? Also shortwave is cheap, almost untraceable. The cost effectiveness alone is attractive.
What isn't so attractive is the prospect of going deaf having to listen to all that noise. And the annoying tune. Also, it's pretty easy to jam shortwave reception within a certain radius, and the fact that the signal bounces all over the whole world isn't such a bonus either.
continued: However, numbers stations have transmitted with impunity for decades, so they are generally presumed to be operated or sponsored only by governments. Also, numbers station transmissions in the international shortwave bands typically require high levels of electric power that is unavailable to ranches, farms, or plantations in isolated drug-growing regions.
continued: Others speculate that some of these stations may be related to illegal drug smuggling operations.[4] Unlike government stations, smugglers' stations would need to be lower powered and irregularly operated, to avoid location by triangulated direction finding, followed by government raids.
Wiki (continued): According to this theory, the messages are encrypted with a one-time pad, to avoid any risk of decryption by the enemy. As evidence, numbers stations have changed details of their broadcasts or produced special, nonscheduled broadcasts coincident with extraordinary political events, such as the August Coup.
From Wiki: It has long been speculated, and was argued in court in one case, that these stations operate as a simple and foolproof method for government agencies to communicate with spies working under cover (sometimes literally[3]).
Considering how much effort has to be put to maintain such stations several hours a day, 365 days a year, if it is a hoax, it certainly is not a profitable hoax! :)
yea, Also its been happening since World war? and they are still doing it today and various places of the world.. i doubt its a hoax.. unless they team up with big countries and trying to mess with our minds :/ 73s ke5rrh
Are there any novels or non fiction books I can read to learn more about this, what do you call it, shortwave radio? Where do I begin to learn this stuff?
Who knows! :) These messages are usually encripted with a so-called one-time pad, so the key changes in every message they send. Maybe there is not a full message transmited in every broadcast (so the last numbers are meaningless), or maybe they don't send logical messages at all.
Popular culture rumours that these messages are sent to undercover agents working abroad. Although some of these number stations have been proven to be a fraud, I don't think this is one of them, as the equipment and resources used to broadcast such a signal must be very expensive. What's sure is that this signal is from the Akrotiri UK base in Cyprus.
Civilians like us only can speculate about what this mess is about, but I doubt we will reach a clear answer some day :)
I've heard of the one time pads. They're used once and then destroyed. So it's impossible to find any record of what was said, you can't begin to translate it. I wish there were some sort of information that was so outdated that it could be revealed in the form of an agent's biography or a fiction novel.
I like the rig, I believe I saw that its a kenwood. What model is it? I use a 570S. Good clip I like searching for the Lincolnshire Poacher. 73s DE KI4SHQ
No it's not. Why would the data be openly broadcast if it was easy to decrypt? It's likely that it uses OTP, which is mathematically provable to be secure.
I just bought the Conet Project. I taught English in China in the autumn of 1989. I listened to shortwave all the time, and know my apartment was bugged. Now I know what they were listening for.
Interesting. How did you know your apartment was bugged? (ps, it probably wasn't because you were listening to short wave, it was probably because you spoke english).
Besides the not-so-subtle clicks on my telephone, everyone who came to my apartment had to register at the front desk. Other teachers had the nerve to make suspicious sounds, etc. and sure enough, there would be a knock on the door, and under the pretense of checking the plumbing or something, these spooky guys would look around the place. This was just after Tienenmen Square and during the fall of the eastern bloc countries, so they were all a little nervous.
No one knows. That's the mystery. There are websites devoted to this. General consensus is they're coded transmissions of some sort. This one could be telling a James Bond type to go do something.
men and machines... way too cool
LOPEZdJUNGLIST 1 week ago
im always fascinated with the number stations ... so it's fun to find someone posting about it.:) reminds me of being a kid and making codes only we would know.
VNVgirl 1 week ago
One more Black Ops joke. ONE MORE BLACK OPS JOKE.
I dare you. I DOUBLE-DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. USE THAT BLACK OPS JOKE ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME.
hotelmario510 2 months ago
number code??? D:
spectro133 6 months ago
It's kind of funny, the government was quoted as saying "People should not be asking about numbers stations, because they shouldn't be listening to them." It's kind of saying "You shouldn't ask about what's in the box, because you shouldn't be near it." That means they're DEFINITELY hiding something.
blackfeathr 9 months ago 5
A finger of fudge is just enough to give your kids a treat.
totnesmartin 10 months ago
THE NUMBERS MASON. WHAT DO THEY MEAN?
mew6112 10 months ago
THE NUMBERS MASON!WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!
DerGeckarbor 1 year ago
@DerGeckarbor Dammit I was going to say that. I already said it on a ton of other videos.
mew6112 10 months ago
I really don't think these number stations have any subliminal intentio中国将统治!!!
TheSkelwor 1 year ago
ITS STEINER, WE HAVE TO KILL STEINER
Siluriuskaeso 1 year ago
@Siluriuskaeso OSWALD... COMPROMISED! PROCEED.. TO.. TARGET!
mew6112 10 months ago
where I live you can always hear either spanish women calling numbers or a male voice calling out the phonetic alphabet on shortwave radio.
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
It was MI6... but w/e
Splaterson92 1 year ago
why do people listen to number stations and document the numbers etc?
I mean... yeah, it is encrypted message that is being sent to agents of different intelligence agencies around the world to execute missions or what not...
but its encrypted and you have no way to decrypt it in a million years, so what is the point of it all? yeah its cool... but listening to it once is more than enough to get the idea, what is the point of keeping on listening to it another day or document it..??
beepIL 1 year ago
@beepIL
Whats the point in trying for something if you can't do it at the time?
Whats the point in going to the moon if we can't go to mars now?
Whats the point in learning an instrument if you can't play it right away?
Whats the point in watching videos on youtube?
Its a hobby.
peniosasdasd 1 year ago
@peniosasdasd its not on the same logical level really...
whats the point in going to the moon or wanting to go to mars? because we will in the future...
whats the point in learning an instrument? to play it in the future.
whats the point in watching videos on youtube? well, some of us for knowledge, that are some really worthy videos out there, not everything is youtube poop
with that logic i understand that you people listen and document in hope to crack it?
beepIL 1 year ago
@beepIL
In a matter of speaking. It's the same reason like mystery novels or movies. Things that tantalize you. The same reason I'm interested in all kinds of black helicopter loony theories and conspiracies, because even if there's nothing sinister going on at all it's still fun to have some leeway on reality.
Not to diminish the idea that numbers stations are some kind of spy thing.
Some creepy things can be heard through the static on dark nights, my friend.
peniosasdasd 1 year ago
@peniosasdasd that's sounds like a much more reasonable explanation, the mystery of it is indeed interesting
beepIL 1 year ago
@beepIL
And the best part of this mystery is that you know there is a solid answer out there somewhere. There could be some dark and sinister figure behind the broadcasting of stations like this, and hence is hidden from society. Or on the other hand it could be nothing, and not even important enough to tell anyone. But what one man finds pointless another can find fascinating you know?
peniosasdasd 1 year ago
@peniosasdasd "Some creepy things can be heard through the static on dark nights, my friend. "
Oh you are so not wrong. Is UVB-76 still transmitting, because that thing, if you know what it's doing (allegedly) is really bloody creepy.
EEWW2006 11 months ago
@EEWW2006
That thing that sounds like a foghorn? I picked that up on 4625 I'm pretty sure.
I just love hearing these things, its like we're discovering little hidden parts of history.
peniosasdasd 11 months ago
@peniosasdasd The very thing, the one that is alleged to be the go-no go signal for "Dead Hand" (Look that one up and you'll know why its creepy
EEWW2006 11 months ago
@EEWW2006
Yeah, I know about all the Russian nuclear ops. Its bad enough about how real the concept of nuclear war is, they had to name that fail-safe "Dead Hand" to really seal the deal. Lets be thankful that it isn't totally controlled by automated machines, and that people like Stanislav Petrov and Vasili Arkhipov were around to prevent armageddon.
peniosasdasd 11 months ago
@peniosasdasd Youre not wrong. Apparently "Dead Hand" always had the human element though, so it wasnt totally automated, but according to semi-official sources, the USSR did have the blueprints for a totally automated "Doomsday" weapon. I wonder how long it was before some high up Ivan in the Kremlin thought "Hang on a minute..."
EEWW2006 11 months ago
@EEWW2006 that last sentence brought a much needed smile to my face today... and i thank you for that :)
trisnjok 10 months ago
@peniosasdasd @EEWW2006
I am an admin of a number stations research group and website, priyom.org
Go check it out. Yep uvb-76 is still buzzing away on 4625, recorded over 100 messages on there this year. Been very active. again, go check out the site and have fun :D keep your eyes on those shortwaves!
bowenpriyom 4 months ago
@beepIL whats the point of going to soccer games then burning down entire neighborhoods because of the outcome of the game????
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
@escueladeleyi LOL, dunno where that came from, but it made me laugh
beepIL 1 year ago
@beepIL LOL was just commenting on motives was all.
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
6.959 Playing the classic hits all night long....
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You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
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You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
chrismichael333 1 year ago
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
chrismichael333 1 year ago
What kind of radio do you use? I know absolutely nothing about this and was trying to read up on it... Is it shortwave, or another type? Number stations are so crazy! Damn they creep me out
grail68 1 year ago
@grail68 It's a Kenwood TS-450, you may be able to find the specs somewhere else.
stg7 1 year ago
You need a key to decode the numbers without the key its impossible its called one time pad,So it dont matter whos listening and the station above called the Lincolnshire Poacher believed to be operated by the British Secret Intelligence Service(MI6) and is believed to transmit from the Royal Air Force base in Akrotiri, Cyprus.The general belief is that numberstations are used by governments, spies, and drug dealers to communicate over long distances
chrismichael333 1 year ago
There are still a few of these "spy" number stations that are active. Cuba is the most common, seems they are "stuck" in the fifties! The number stations as they are called use a "One Time Pad" of code and is impossible to decipher save for the users. A common entertainment going back to the 1700s and earlier was to write letters in ciphers or codes. Leonardo da Vinci wrote backwards on his notes and that goes back to the 1400s! Number stations remain a mystery as they were intended to be.
poikaa3 1 year ago
What's is with the tunes in number stations? To entertain the poor bastard?
mikesvampire 1 year ago
Well, If these frequencies are reserved ONLY to governative communications, such as Police or Army, it could be considered "against law" to listen to it. But if they lie within international radio-amateur-bands, they should be audible by everybody that is interested in them. It is not dangerous to listen to them, but it could seriously become so if anybody tries to transmit in these frequencies, thereafter imitating a real message even for fun
anisocoro 1 year ago
Y'know, it could all just be a old recording on a loop or something. And I find this hard to believe when I hear it's theme :P
DHGameStudios 1 year ago
What's MI5? Is that like UNIT?
IronWaffles 1 year ago
they did a really bad job at keeping these secret
generalflood 1 year ago
When did we see James Bond ever listen to these messages?
jabajabamaster 1 year ago
wait is that i hear an hardstyle code to be a techno raver brutal gabber?
lucadepu 1 year ago
4 8 15 16 23 42 lol lost
2dubstep5 1 year ago 2
Exactly 2dubstep5. I think of poor Hugo every time I listen to these!
CleoTheSim 1 year ago
oh vera
igrenade 1 year ago
SupraTompan, stop failing please. As swedes we can listen to anything that's transmitted in the air. Any band, any frequency.
Fruktpojken 2 years ago 16
@Fruktpojken
Swedes can listen to anything, but they probably won't understand it !
ihaveairlockers 1 year ago
@Fruktpojken Oh shit..
1MaskedMexican 6 months ago
i,m an ex poacher (british army) and i served in akitori ,wierd eh. although some of these are used by drug trafficing and other illeagle trades,never heard this when i was there and we messed about with allsorts of comms,
poacher2506 2 years ago
May'be this was too secret for even a squaddies ears eh, lol!
spuddy83 2 years ago 3
probably we are like mushrooms kept in the dark and fed on shit, lol.
poacher2506 2 years ago 4
I lived in the Arabian Gulf for a few years and I could pick up the Lincolnshire Poacher and E10 (Mossad) around the clock on my little Sony 7600G. E10 was especially active...pretty much broadcast at the top of every hour.
slipmagic 2 years ago
So... what do all these numbers mean?
SanasSweetMode 2 years ago
Unknown without having the key to decipher the message. I guess that if we knew what the transmission is saying, we would not be discussing about it ;)
stg7 2 years ago
How long has this station been around?
Or number stations in general?
SanasSweetMode 2 years ago
Some dare to say that numbers stations have been lying around since WW2 or so, which sounds logical. Definitely, the existance of such stations can be traced back to the Cold War days. Lincolnshire Poacher is amongst the longest running stations of its kind, if my sources are good.
stg7 2 years ago
Why that's very interesting. Very mysterious.
But if they really did have anything to do with spies and espionage, wouldn't it be kind of dangerous or illegal to listen to them?
SanasSweetMode 2 years ago
It's kind of contradictory actually, because no government will ever aknowledge the existance of these stations, and on the other hand, some of them can also (or have, in the past) prosecute people that listens to them :)
They would not be so worried if they had nothing to hide, don't you think? :)
stg7 2 years ago
So they can prosecute people for something that (allegedly) doesn't exist? That's odd.
Now I'm very curious. xD
SanasSweetMode 2 years ago 18
stg7, The CIA have recently sanctioned a book written 'Spycraft' by Robert Wallace. Wallace is the former director of the CIAs office of technical services. Such broadcasts as these are known as one way links. All you need is a simply shortwave radio to receive them. The codes are unbreakable because only the agent and handler know the codes (one time pads). The problems arise when the pads and spies are caught with them.....
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In Sweden it´s illegal to listen to them, still the goverment denies the fact of number stations.
SupraTompan 2 years ago
Listening to the number stations isn't illegal, well, at least in free countries. The thing that makes short wave transmissions a perfect way for secret messages and codes to be transmitted, is you can't tell who listening. The codes are quite complicated, usually, and change on a daily, if not hourly or even at random times in a schedule.
IC2720 1 year ago 3
@IC2720 strangely it IS STILL illegal in the UK to listen to any of these radio number stations..wireless and telecommunications act 1967 passed by that well know MP Tony Benn!postmaster general under Harold Wilson's government
grahamkeithtodd 1 year ago
@stg7 Some even go to say that the stations where around during world war one, I'm not certain about it as I have not done any background research myself. But according to a friend of a friend they could have been around then. I want to get a short wave radio just to listen to these haha!
churchrvbrvb 1 year ago
Both the Russians and US have caught spies red-handed with the broadcast lists and the one-time pads. For example U.S citizen Ana Belen Montes was caught spying for the Cubans in 2001. She failed to follow procedures and wipe her laptop after copying her Cuban voice broadcast. The FBI were able to decipher her instructions and convict her of spying for a foreign power. The recent Cuban spies caught in the US have the Cuban morse broadcasts mentioned in their indictment.
TEEEEEEEEJ 2 years ago 4
@SanasSweetMode apparently the station broadcast for nearly 20 years. apparently the first time it was heard broadcasting was december 1988, and it went off the air towards the end of june 2008.
MrRandomPerson 1 year ago
@stg7 "Today the cafeteria is serving...corned beef. Du-da-da-di-du-da-da-duu, du-da-di-de-da-doo-doo"
poopskinTheLiar 1 year ago 4
@poopskinTheLiar You just made my day.
mikesvampire 1 year ago
@mikesvampire Well, the MI5 Lunch announcements are so secret they need encryption :p
poopskinTheLiar 1 year ago
look at the wikipedia entry concerning number stations. There are also many other sources in the web - these were special broadcasts for field spies.
kicior99 2 years ago
Blimey, this brings back memories, my simple ex WD gear wld pick it up no problem thirty five years ago.. Thanks for posting.
richardyingren 2 years ago
Assuming it's done by British intelligence, this would be MI6, not MI5. MI5 is the internal security agency, the equivalent of the American FBI.
nilsine 3 years ago
I think we can get it without comparisons!
denisonM 2 years ago
cherry ripe still exists
dominicrusho 3 years ago
I was given an old radio its a Marc Pathfinder Model NR-52F1.LW 145-400Khz, MW 530-1600Khz, MB 1.6-4.0Mhz, SW1 4.0-8.0Mhz, SW2 8.0-12Mhz, SW3 12-18Mhz, SW4 18-30Mhz. The FM bands range 66-174Mhz and UHF 430-470Mhz.Could you tell me what i should tune to to pick stuff up like this? or would i need a digital air scanner? Thnx in advance :)
JohnnyX50 3 years ago
It's sad that the Lincolnshire Poacher (and Cherry Ripe) seem to have gone off air. :( The end of an era. Fortunately great people have uploaded videos! :)
ReorderTone 3 years ago
Yeh, somone posted that news on my vid, but only just got around to putting up a wire and checking. Not there on the usual Sunday freqs.
Shame, first numbers station I picked up, and the last.
Hanglands 3 years ago
the song's actually really good, it's just a shame you can't get it anywhere on the internet.
rjjrbrem 3 years ago
I wonder how the "spy" can get all the numbers right with all that noise.
CeleTheRef 3 years ago
lamentablemente salio del aire
betomiyazaki 3 years ago
the strange thing is that in the uk it is ILLEGAL to listen to one of these number stations!
there used to be one called magderburg annie which was run by the east german stasie...the only time M.I.^ got there hands on a one time pad the decoded messages where mostly complants from the stasie about there spys expence accounts!...
grahamkeithtodd 3 years ago
It's amusing that the government prohibits us from listening to stations that officially don't exist!
tatotal 3 years ago 3
Its even more amusing when somebody gets a QSL card from one!. I believe it has happened.
Hanglands 3 years ago
Really??
butimsonotbothered 3 years ago
OLX,a Czech number station,did send out QSL cards.
numberstation 2 years ago
6-4-8-1-3....
MNc99 3 years ago
Weird never seen this before?
Soundchaser121 3 years ago
see my video "iridial" about number station....
jacktorrance1978 3 years ago
creepy
luxlisbon85 3 years ago
this stuff is creepy. what station do you have to be on to pick this up?
Pikapoo1 3 years ago
You have to have a shortwave radio and go down to the lower numbers. I found the Russian Buzzer there a few times.
TheRadioFanatic 3 years ago
Why don't you do more videos exploring the possible origins of this, stg7?
shymirror 4 years ago
The station itself is broadcast from an RAF base on Cyprus
the123kingRV 4 years ago 4
There is actually a genius behind using both a crude code like a one time pad(Vernam cipher) and "outdated" shortwave radio. I mean who the hell even listens to shortwave anymore? Also shortwave is cheap, almost untraceable. The cost effectiveness alone is attractive.
retsisruoydekcufi 4 years ago 2
What isn't so attractive is the prospect of going deaf having to listen to all that noise. And the annoying tune. Also, it's pretty easy to jam shortwave reception within a certain radius, and the fact that the signal bounces all over the whole world isn't such a bonus either.
antihate9876 3 years ago
continued: However, numbers stations have transmitted with impunity for decades, so they are generally presumed to be operated or sponsored only by governments. Also, numbers station transmissions in the international shortwave bands typically require high levels of electric power that is unavailable to ranches, farms, or plantations in isolated drug-growing regions.
ScornedbySara 4 years ago
continued: Others speculate that some of these stations may be related to illegal drug smuggling operations.[4] Unlike government stations, smugglers' stations would need to be lower powered and irregularly operated, to avoid location by triangulated direction finding, followed by government raids.
ScornedbySara 4 years ago
Wiki (continued): According to this theory, the messages are encrypted with a one-time pad, to avoid any risk of decryption by the enemy. As evidence, numbers stations have changed details of their broadcasts or produced special, nonscheduled broadcasts coincident with extraordinary political events, such as the August Coup.
ScornedbySara 4 years ago
From Wiki: It has long been speculated, and was argued in court in one case, that these stations operate as a simple and foolproof method for government agencies to communicate with spies working under cover (sometimes literally[3]).
ScornedbySara 4 years ago
So, do YOU think these are really messages being sent to fellow spies, or do you think its a big hoax? Me, personally, Im not sure...
Pikapoo1 4 years ago
Considering how much effort has to be put to maintain such stations several hours a day, 365 days a year, if it is a hoax, it certainly is not a profitable hoax! :)
stg7 4 years ago
yea, Also its been happening since World war? and they are still doing it today and various places of the world.. i doubt its a hoax.. unless they team up with big countries and trying to mess with our minds :/ 73s ke5rrh
surefirefan 4 years ago 2
Are there any novels or non fiction books I can read to learn more about this, what do you call it, shortwave radio? Where do I begin to learn this stuff?
HamRadioPanda 4 years ago
Look for "Simon Mason" in your favourite searcher, he has lots of stuff and information about this and other related matters ;)
stg7 4 years ago
stg7, what sort of messages do you think are transmitted through this?
DoctorTragedy 4 years ago
Who knows! :) These messages are usually encripted with a so-called one-time pad, so the key changes in every message they send. Maybe there is not a full message transmited in every broadcast (so the last numbers are meaningless), or maybe they don't send logical messages at all.
stg7 4 years ago
Popular culture rumours that these messages are sent to undercover agents working abroad. Although some of these number stations have been proven to be a fraud, I don't think this is one of them, as the equipment and resources used to broadcast such a signal must be very expensive. What's sure is that this signal is from the Akrotiri UK base in Cyprus.
Civilians like us only can speculate about what this mess is about, but I doubt we will reach a clear answer some day :)
stg7 4 years ago
I've heard of the one time pads. They're used once and then destroyed. So it's impossible to find any record of what was said, you can't begin to translate it. I wish there were some sort of information that was so outdated that it could be revealed in the form of an agent's biography or a fiction novel.
HamRadioPanda 4 years ago
Regnum Defende
englishjac 4 years ago
I like the rig, I believe I saw that its a kenwood. What model is it? I use a 570S. Good clip I like searching for the Lincolnshire Poacher. 73s DE KI4SHQ
jfunk513 4 years ago
It is a Kenwood TS-450S.
73 and DX :)
stg7 4 years ago
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All of thou, will die.
BulutCyp 4 years ago
sorry mate we are STILL here lol ;-)
grahamkeithtodd 3 years ago
quite simple to decode this data if you know how ;)
Scotscan 4 years ago
No it's not. Why would the data be openly broadcast if it was easy to decrypt? It's likely that it uses OTP, which is mathematically provable to be secure.
Nuskrad 4 years ago
Great Video.. Nice Radio from Louis 2E0LRA 5++
Radioham2e0 4 years ago
Confirmed QSO, 73 de EA4AFY 5/9+ :)
stg7 4 years ago
When I was bound apprentice in famous Lincolnshire
'Twas well I served my master for nigh on seven years
Till I took up to poaching as you shall quickly hear
Oh, 'tis my delight on a shiny night in the season of the year.
As me and my companions was setting out a snare
'Twas then we spied the gamekeeper, for him we didn't care
For we can wrestle and fight, my boys, and jump from anywhere
Oh, 'tis my delight on a shiny night in the season of the year.
neospydel 4 years ago
This shit is pretty fuckin weird.
spuddwebb 4 years ago
I just bought the Conet Project. I taught English in China in the autumn of 1989. I listened to shortwave all the time, and know my apartment was bugged. Now I know what they were listening for.
scorpdan 4 years ago
Interesting. How did you know your apartment was bugged? (ps, it probably wasn't because you were listening to short wave, it was probably because you spoke english).
Spocko000 4 years ago
Besides the not-so-subtle clicks on my telephone, everyone who came to my apartment had to register at the front desk. Other teachers had the nerve to make suspicious sounds, etc. and sure enough, there would be a knock on the door, and under the pretense of checking the plumbing or something, these spooky guys would look around the place. This was just after Tienenmen Square and during the fall of the eastern bloc countries, so they were all a little nervous.
scorpdan 4 years ago
Suspicious sounds.. Like what?
Spocko000 4 years ago
Who are they talking to and why?
sean77741111 5 years ago
No one knows. That's the mystery. There are websites devoted to this. General consensus is they're coded transmissions of some sort. This one could be telling a James Bond type to go do something.
saskabush2006 5 years ago
Nice one, I'm a HAM in the UK, havn't heard a number station yet but will do soon I'm sure!
litwardle 5 years ago