your clearly all full of ignorance for these comments agaisnt new labour. its a shame people are so selfish... because of new labour, im working in a well paid job and am educated, owning my own home and am able to enjoy my life knowing i can move forward. maybe you should start to think about other people abit more, people who have to break out of the working class background as i did. been there done it. some of you cant say the same!!!!!
LORD presscott is a real working-class hero LMAO! who is he kidding?
btw presscott you cunt before you bastards destroyed the grammar school system in this country 65-70% of all oxbridge places went to students from state schools now it is only 50%.
yes@ steps1 it's sad these poor =pathetic liebore loons can't see it . So wrapped up in their stereotypes. They cant stand the poor,who stand up by themselves. They treat the gullible like fat cat celeb luvvies treat their "fans" all smiles gushing and OTT sentimentality.Their business is fantasy /lies They feed off the adulation,but get bitchy when ppl tell them they are self adoring moral posuers
"New Labour are keeping quiet how many of THEM have been educated in the private sector"
That's not the point, quite obviously! What matters is the policies that are pursued in government and that's what he's referring to. I would've thought that's quite elementary.
If who your parents are or which school you went to isn't the point then why the hell are Labour making such a big issue of it..why in a bi-election campaign have people dressed in top n tails following the Tory candidate? I mean that is just off the map.. especially the whole hypocrisy..a hoorah henry or a champagne socialist? give me the toff anyday..there are no pretences about them..but to pretend to be a man of the people whilst you swing your croquet mallet..vile!
@steps1 You form most of your opinions and political beliefs during your upbringing. If you go to private school, you are wealthy and you are educated with similarly wealthy people and you are likely to try to CONSERVE the wealth (because you are happy) therefore you are far more likely to vote CONSERVATIVE. FACT. I happen to think you should help those that are less fortunate. There is no reason why you cannot hold this view if are from private school, you are far less likely to though.
Oh you poor love..you write all that waffle & yet it must just kill you to acknowledge the fact that social mobility was better under the Tories..that the gap between the rich and the poor is WIDER after 13 years of a Lab Govt..yes a Lab Govt than under the Tories. How proud you must have been of Brown to say he wants more middle class / when he savaged millions of the poorest by getting rid of the 10p tax band..how proud you must have been to see Prescott revel as the Champagne Socialist
Why do you vote Labour? Because you enjoy them bringing the country to its knees & running out of OTHER PEOPLE'S money..because you despise people bettering themselves through hard work..because you want people to remain forever poor and will constantly tell them they can achieve nothing.
You think that I'm wealthy? You must be joking but I know one thing: You'd have to be slightly unhinged to even consider voting for this unelected farce of a PM and his joke of a party
@steps1 If you are not wealthy then you have been misled somewhere down the line. You should research the difference between a right wing party and a socialist party.
You've got nothing to worry about then have you if the tripe you've come out with is true..I mean Labour should walk this election.
Socialism? Geez..my little toe is more socialist than Brown..he'd foam at the mouth if you said the word. Listen, Socialism is dead..time of death the 80s..were you asleep? The Tories won every single political debate. What does Thatcher say was one of her biggest achievements? New Labour...Tory policies led by a Tory in Blair
@steps1 The fact is you are MORE LIKELY to vote Tory if you come from private, however there is of course no reason why you cannot still have socialist priciples. The reason I vote labour is because under the Labour government the poor are 40% better off (with the inclusion of tax & benefits etc) and the rich are 33% less well off. I can see why you would disagree with this if you are well off but I believe in the distribution of wealth, which without a doubt helps the country as a whole.
@steps1 Under labours new plans, 60% of the proposed taxes would come from the richest 5%, which is what needs to happen in hard times when the poor struggle the most. Take a look at the manifestos: the Tories want to make large cuts immediately to ensure we recover some of the deficit straight away. Labour propose to continue borrowing money with an aim to half the deficit over a period of 4 years.
Are you blind and deaf to the fact that the gap between the rich and the poor has got WIDER under Labour? 13 years of Labour..I mean that is a disgrace which is apparently the party of the people.
What did you think of Brown savaging millions of the poorest people by getting rid of the 10p tax band?
Labour have bankrupt the country..they have run out of OTHER PEOPLE'S money..that's what they do best. We saw it in '51, '79 and history is repeating itself.
@steps1 Every busiessman will have formed a 4 year business plan and should accept that there is no quick fix if we are to return the economy to a state of prosperity. The Tories (and Tory businesses), however, do not see it this way, aiming to make all the cuts in the puplic sector with tax holidays for the high earners. Without an increase in NICs, there will have to be huge cuts in the public sector which will without a doubt hurt the poorest the most.
@steps1 With regards to the comment Brown made on middle classes, of course this is the right thing to do, this has been the aim of the labour government from the start; to bring the working class into the middle class, which is what has effectively happened and will continue to do so under labour. With an increase in money to those in the working class, they will become richer and form a much larger middle class. With this will come a much stronger economy.
@steps1 The gap between the rich and the poor isn't widening at all, there are more middle class families than ever before. If you listen to the comments Margeret Thatcher made (they are mostly here on youtube), you will see that she advocated an increased gap between the two and she claimed this was the only way the poor would get richer; this simply is not true; more people from a working class background are setting up successful businesses than ever before.
@steps1 This is because more money has been put into the public sector than ever before and therefore the level of education for the poor has increased substantially, giving people the chance to become successful, even in business, which Thatcher was adament was impossible. She said only the rich could create jobs for the poor. How wrong she was.
John Prescott is a farcical figure..he's a champagne socialist of the worst kind as he carries his croquet mallet.
Blair said the Class War was over..shame this pathetic party have forgotten that..chip on the shoulder, politics of envy and yet at the same time dripping with hypocrisy when you consider the toffs in the Labour Party..get Cameron in and let's get on with the job of bringing the country of its knees just as in '51, just as in '79
coz society has become dead unequal under Labour!? geez..the gap between the rich and the poor has got wider..and there's nothing equal about getting rid of the 10p tax band which savaged 5 million of the poorest people in the country is there Mr Brown? Horrific..but then that's Labour for you..they always run out of other people's money
@steps1 Why can't you accept you should help those less fortunate? Why can't you accept state schools are working? Why can't you accept the health service is the best it's ever been? Why can't you accept unemployment is lowest it's ever been? Why can't you accept the minimum wage? Why can't you accept a death tax to help the poor elderly? Why can't you accept that 60% of the new taxes should come from the richest 5%? Why can't you accept NIC increase to protect state schools, NHS & policing?
@steps1 Why can't you accept the Tories are for the rich, by the rich? Why won't the Tories reform government? Why are the Tories run by a man that influences British law and doesn't pay taxes? Why do the Tories want to make cuts before allowing the economy to grow as it is doing?
@worcesteradam83 You're wrong, I've been to state school so I know. Of course private schools produce better results. The level of funding at my state school on each pupil was £3000 a year compared to an average of £8000 a year in private schools - think how much more can be done with more than twice as much money. The average class size for private is 9, my school was 30. Yet I still recieved a good education - just how deluded are you??
@worcesteradam83 I agree there are varying reports depending on who published the statistics; perhaps the number is higher (the pupil to teacher ratio is roughly 10:1). However, I am sure you can see the point im making - all statistics agree there is an average of about twice as much funding for each pupil in the private sector yet the public sector is getting pretty good value for money. That was the point I was trying to make - state schools are improving.
These Nu labour MP's either secretly or openly (Peter Manalson) aspire towards being part of the new aristocracy so that's not going to work Prescott. If they really want back the supporters they have been hemorrhaging to the BNP then Labour should consider re-instate clause 4 otherwise the party will be indistinguishable amongst the white noise of mainstream politics.
People who get paid more because of their background do not necessarily work hard for it.
Big business pulls the strings by making deals with politicions behind the scenes. Tony Blair now gets £2 Million p.a. from JP Morgan. Mandleson makes friends with Russian Oligarchs, who buy up British newspapers. Haliburton shares go up 500% soon after Iraq Invasion. Unelected Central Banks, EU& UN officials.
Don't be distracted by politics. Left / Right makes little difference!
"Fairness" Bollocks! Perhaps Prescott should look up Mark Krikorian at the centre of migration studies in America and how his studies show that immigration makes the 20% poorest in society poorer. Fairness, get a grip!
Class warfare is destroying the UK, the fact is left wing politics is and has always been rooted in envy. What it's done has made us all suffer. Search 'Margaret Thatcher on Socialism' on YT and she makes a valid point about the bigotry that fuels these ideologies. In an ironic way, Marx is right, class is a massive divider in society, but these days it's not the super rich tycoons starting the conflict, it's the greedy politicians and selfish trade unionists who fuel all this hate.
If you over tax the wealthy, they will go abroad. If that happens a lot, then we will be left with a pitiful country unable to off anything. The wealthy bring jobs for the not so! I'm a not so...
Labour has just made everyone poor, sovereign-less, identity-less and moral-less.
@wasabimanic There aren't more Tories. There are a lot of people who are fooled into voting Tory because the party covers up their policies; all we ever hear from them is waffle and abuse. They talk about change, what change? Same old Tory party, cover it all up with a good speaker and convince everyone it's the leader that counts, it's not; it's the principles that count. Listen to what Prescott is saying; if you want fairness vote labour, if you want to CONSERVE the wealth vote Tory.
@themothmanreturns you got to be kidding!! substitute Tories for Labour in your statement and it makes far more sense. Fact former Labour voters in their thousands, have changed the complexion of many former Labour strongholds in the north. Socialist to National socialist. Both vile intolerant bigots. Fairness?! Labour don't reward ppl. they steal from the hard working tax payer to buy votes , create dependency in an ever increasingly emasculated population.
@themothmanreturns "CONSERVE"not just conserve INVESTin the PRODUCTIVE. Those with a valued skill for the future. NOT luddites, not tripping up overburdening of the sources of new wealth / job generation. Old Labour are stuck in the 19th C Old working practices/ ideas
themothmanreturns will be no doubt quaffing champagne and playing croquet as he wrote that..I think there's nothing more depressing than 'chip on the shoulder politics'..you can have your views on the Tory Party but please don't insult our intelligence and try and suggest that this horrific Labour Party care for the Poor..they can't stand them!
@steps1 David Cameron didn't agree with the minimum wage, every Tory MP opposed it so that Tory MPs such as Peter Bone could continue to pay his employees 88p an hour, which he once boasted about in a Tory party conference.
He supports it now...it's refreshing to see that..Labour have been stealing policies from the Tories for a long time now (that's why they won power remember..tory policies lead by a leder who could have been a tory..he went to the scottish Eton you know)
The Conservative Party is the party of meritocracy. Labour is the party of pathetic class war. NO ONE CARES WHAT SCHOOL POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN TO! John Prescott is an inarticulate moron who probably cannot even spell his own name.
If Labour win the next election I will seriously consider moving to a more sensible nation which is not obsessed with class and education!
your clearly all full of ignorance for these comments agaisnt new labour. its a shame people are so selfish... because of new labour, im working in a well paid job and am educated, owning my own home and am able to enjoy my life knowing i can move forward. maybe you should start to think about other people abit more, people who have to break out of the working class background as i did. been there done it. some of you cant say the same!!!!!
sarahwacky 2 months ago
LORD presscott is a real working-class hero LMAO! who is he kidding?
btw presscott you cunt before you bastards destroyed the grammar school system in this country 65-70% of all oxbridge places went to students from state schools now it is only 50%.
LibertarianUK 5 months ago
Prescott is AWESOME. How many other politicos would the newsreaders not dare to interrupt?
AlexGabrielYT 1 year ago
yes@ steps1 it's sad these poor =pathetic liebore loons can't see it . So wrapped up in their stereotypes. They cant stand the poor,who stand up by themselves. They treat the gullible like fat cat celeb luvvies treat their "fans" all smiles gushing and OTT sentimentality.Their business is fantasy /lies They feed off the adulation,but get bitchy when ppl tell them they are self adoring moral posuers
wasabimanic 1 year ago
Loser!
gooners105 1 year ago
I hope Prescott gets CANCER.
Might help the stupid fat cunt fit into his coffin.
FrankClanton 2 years ago
"New Labour are keeping quiet how many of THEM have been educated in the private sector"
That's not the point, quite obviously! What matters is the policies that are pursued in government and that's what he's referring to. I would've thought that's quite elementary.
brett18uk 2 years ago
If who your parents are or which school you went to isn't the point then why the hell are Labour making such a big issue of it..why in a bi-election campaign have people dressed in top n tails following the Tory candidate? I mean that is just off the map.. especially the whole hypocrisy..a hoorah henry or a champagne socialist? give me the toff anyday..there are no pretences about them..but to pretend to be a man of the people whilst you swing your croquet mallet..vile!
steps1 2 years ago
@steps1 You form most of your opinions and political beliefs during your upbringing. If you go to private school, you are wealthy and you are educated with similarly wealthy people and you are likely to try to CONSERVE the wealth (because you are happy) therefore you are far more likely to vote CONSERVATIVE. FACT. I happen to think you should help those that are less fortunate. There is no reason why you cannot hold this view if are from private school, you are far less likely to though.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 Why do you vote Tory?
Because you don't care.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
Oh you poor love..you write all that waffle & yet it must just kill you to acknowledge the fact that social mobility was better under the Tories..that the gap between the rich and the poor is WIDER after 13 years of a Lab Govt..yes a Lab Govt than under the Tories. How proud you must have been of Brown to say he wants more middle class / when he savaged millions of the poorest by getting rid of the 10p tax band..how proud you must have been to see Prescott revel as the Champagne Socialist
steps1 1 year ago
Why do you vote Labour? Because you enjoy them bringing the country to its knees & running out of OTHER PEOPLE'S money..because you despise people bettering themselves through hard work..because you want people to remain forever poor and will constantly tell them they can achieve nothing.
You think that I'm wealthy? You must be joking but I know one thing: You'd have to be slightly unhinged to even consider voting for this unelected farce of a PM and his joke of a party
steps1 1 year ago
@steps1 If you are not wealthy then you have been misled somewhere down the line. You should research the difference between a right wing party and a socialist party.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns
You've got nothing to worry about then have you if the tripe you've come out with is true..I mean Labour should walk this election.
Socialism? Geez..my little toe is more socialist than Brown..he'd foam at the mouth if you said the word. Listen, Socialism is dead..time of death the 80s..were you asleep? The Tories won every single political debate. What does Thatcher say was one of her biggest achievements? New Labour...Tory policies led by a Tory in Blair
steps1 1 year ago
@steps1 The fact is you are MORE LIKELY to vote Tory if you come from private, however there is of course no reason why you cannot still have socialist priciples. The reason I vote labour is because under the Labour government the poor are 40% better off (with the inclusion of tax & benefits etc) and the rich are 33% less well off. I can see why you would disagree with this if you are well off but I believe in the distribution of wealth, which without a doubt helps the country as a whole.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 Under labours new plans, 60% of the proposed taxes would come from the richest 5%, which is what needs to happen in hard times when the poor struggle the most. Take a look at the manifestos: the Tories want to make large cuts immediately to ensure we recover some of the deficit straight away. Labour propose to continue borrowing money with an aim to half the deficit over a period of 4 years.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns
Are you blind and deaf to the fact that the gap between the rich and the poor has got WIDER under Labour? 13 years of Labour..I mean that is a disgrace which is apparently the party of the people.
What did you think of Brown savaging millions of the poorest people by getting rid of the 10p tax band?
Labour have bankrupt the country..they have run out of OTHER PEOPLE'S money..that's what they do best. We saw it in '51, '79 and history is repeating itself.
steps1 1 year ago
@steps1 Every busiessman will have formed a 4 year business plan and should accept that there is no quick fix if we are to return the economy to a state of prosperity. The Tories (and Tory businesses), however, do not see it this way, aiming to make all the cuts in the puplic sector with tax holidays for the high earners. Without an increase in NICs, there will have to be huge cuts in the public sector which will without a doubt hurt the poorest the most.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 With regards to the comment Brown made on middle classes, of course this is the right thing to do, this has been the aim of the labour government from the start; to bring the working class into the middle class, which is what has effectively happened and will continue to do so under labour. With an increase in money to those in the working class, they will become richer and form a much larger middle class. With this will come a much stronger economy.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 The gap between the rich and the poor isn't widening at all, there are more middle class families than ever before. If you listen to the comments Margeret Thatcher made (they are mostly here on youtube), you will see that she advocated an increased gap between the two and she claimed this was the only way the poor would get richer; this simply is not true; more people from a working class background are setting up successful businesses than ever before.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 This is because more money has been put into the public sector than ever before and therefore the level of education for the poor has increased substantially, giving people the chance to become successful, even in business, which Thatcher was adament was impossible. She said only the rich could create jobs for the poor. How wrong she was.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
John Prescott is a farcical figure..he's a champagne socialist of the worst kind as he carries his croquet mallet.
Blair said the Class War was over..shame this pathetic party have forgotten that..chip on the shoulder, politics of envy and yet at the same time dripping with hypocrisy when you consider the toffs in the Labour Party..get Cameron in and let's get on with the job of bringing the country of its knees just as in '51, just as in '79
steps1 2 years ago
Yes, more inequality please. NOT!
brett18uk 2 years ago
coz society has become dead unequal under Labour!? geez..the gap between the rich and the poor has got wider..and there's nothing equal about getting rid of the 10p tax band which savaged 5 million of the poorest people in the country is there Mr Brown? Horrific..but then that's Labour for you..they always run out of other people's money
steps1 2 years ago
@steps1 Why can't you accept you should help those less fortunate? Why can't you accept state schools are working? Why can't you accept the health service is the best it's ever been? Why can't you accept unemployment is lowest it's ever been? Why can't you accept the minimum wage? Why can't you accept a death tax to help the poor elderly? Why can't you accept that 60% of the new taxes should come from the richest 5%? Why can't you accept NIC increase to protect state schools, NHS & policing?
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@steps1 Why can't you accept the Tories are for the rich, by the rich? Why won't the Tories reform government? Why are the Tories run by a man that influences British law and doesn't pay taxes? Why do the Tories want to make cuts before allowing the economy to grow as it is doing?
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
Prescott is thick as shit
state schools are shit and fail their pupils compared to the private sector. Thats what the figures show
Prescott is pissing money away on people many of whoms worst nightmare is to go to Oxbridge
worcesteradam83 2 years ago
@worcesteradam83 You're wrong, I've been to state school so I know. Of course private schools produce better results. The level of funding at my state school on each pupil was £3000 a year compared to an average of £8000 a year in private schools - think how much more can be done with more than twice as much money. The average class size for private is 9, my school was 30. Yet I still recieved a good education - just how deluded are you??
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns average class size in private school is definitely not 9
worcesteradam83 1 year ago
@worcesteradam83 I agree there are varying reports depending on who published the statistics; perhaps the number is higher (the pupil to teacher ratio is roughly 10:1). However, I am sure you can see the point im making - all statistics agree there is an average of about twice as much funding for each pupil in the private sector yet the public sector is getting pretty good value for money. That was the point I was trying to make - state schools are improving.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
These Nu labour MP's either secretly or openly (Peter Manalson) aspire towards being part of the new aristocracy so that's not going to work Prescott. If they really want back the supporters they have been hemorrhaging to the BNP then Labour should consider re-instate clause 4 otherwise the party will be indistinguishable amongst the white noise of mainstream politics.
gzX9bVq6k 2 years ago
People who get paid more because of their background do not necessarily work hard for it.
Big business pulls the strings by making deals with politicions behind the scenes. Tony Blair now gets £2 Million p.a. from JP Morgan. Mandleson makes friends with Russian Oligarchs, who buy up British newspapers. Haliburton shares go up 500% soon after Iraq Invasion. Unelected Central Banks, EU& UN officials.
Don't be distracted by politics. Left / Right makes little difference!
globalbankfraud 2 years ago
"Fairness" Bollocks! Perhaps Prescott should look up Mark Krikorian at the centre of migration studies in America and how his studies show that immigration makes the 20% poorest in society poorer. Fairness, get a grip!
TheWidukind 2 years ago
I've never understood labours socialist bullshit really.
I don't make a great deal of money, but i'm happy, i don't have nor want a high-stress job with a massive paycheck.
There are people out there who work harder than me, but they're not entitled to have more than me because we should all be equal?
roflcopter2006 2 years ago
Watch OLIVER TEMPLE SMITH on You Tube for more on this
virtuousfilms 2 years ago
Class warfare is destroying the UK, the fact is left wing politics is and has always been rooted in envy. What it's done has made us all suffer. Search 'Margaret Thatcher on Socialism' on YT and she makes a valid point about the bigotry that fuels these ideologies. In an ironic way, Marx is right, class is a massive divider in society, but these days it's not the super rich tycoons starting the conflict, it's the greedy politicians and selfish trade unionists who fuel all this hate.
DystopianUtopia 2 years ago 2
If you over tax the wealthy, they will go abroad. If that happens a lot, then we will be left with a pitiful country unable to off anything. The wealthy bring jobs for the not so! I'm a not so...
Labour has just made everyone poor, sovereign-less, identity-less and moral-less.
Sillysod 2 years ago 2
Harman parroting left wing cliche.
" Tories for the few not the many"
That's why the many will return these liebore hypocrites to power with a massive "for the many" landslide,huh?
GET OVER IT
THERE ARE MORE WORKING CLASS TORIES+ anti liebore ppl , who see the hypocrisy of the fat cat luvvies in or who support liebore party.
wasabimanic 2 years ago 3
@wasabimanic There aren't more Tories. There are a lot of people who are fooled into voting Tory because the party covers up their policies; all we ever hear from them is waffle and abuse. They talk about change, what change? Same old Tory party, cover it all up with a good speaker and convince everyone it's the leader that counts, it's not; it's the principles that count. Listen to what Prescott is saying; if you want fairness vote labour, if you want to CONSERVE the wealth vote Tory.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns you got to be kidding!! substitute Tories for Labour in your statement and it makes far more sense. Fact former Labour voters in their thousands, have changed the complexion of many former Labour strongholds in the north. Socialist to National socialist. Both vile intolerant bigots. Fairness?! Labour don't reward ppl. they steal from the hard working tax payer to buy votes , create dependency in an ever increasingly emasculated population.
wasabimanic 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns "CONSERVE"not just conserve INVESTin the PRODUCTIVE. Those with a valued skill for the future. NOT luddites, not tripping up overburdening of the sources of new wealth / job generation. Old Labour are stuck in the 19th C Old working practices/ ideas
wasabimanic 1 year ago
@wasabimanic
themothmanreturns will be no doubt quaffing champagne and playing croquet as he wrote that..I think there's nothing more depressing than 'chip on the shoulder politics'..you can have your views on the Tory Party but please don't insult our intelligence and try and suggest that this horrific Labour Party care for the Poor..they can't stand them!
steps1 1 year ago
@steps1 Please answer this question truthfully. Do you agree with the minimum wage?
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns
I agree with Minimum Wage..so does David Cameron. Do you agree with all the policies Labour stole from the Tories?
steps1 1 year ago
@steps1 David Cameron didn't agree with the minimum wage, every Tory MP opposed it so that Tory MPs such as Peter Bone could continue to pay his employees 88p an hour, which he once boasted about in a Tory party conference.
themothmanreturns 1 year ago
@themothmanreturns
He supports it now...it's refreshing to see that..Labour have been stealing policies from the Tories for a long time now (that's why they won power remember..tory policies lead by a leder who could have been a tory..he went to the scottish Eton you know)
steps1 1 year ago
The Conservative Party is the party of meritocracy. Labour is the party of pathetic class war. NO ONE CARES WHAT SCHOOL POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN TO! John Prescott is an inarticulate moron who probably cannot even spell his own name.
If Labour win the next election I will seriously consider moving to a more sensible nation which is not obsessed with class and education!
instantface 2 years ago 2
John Prescott = Pie faced flatulent
ED999A 2 years ago 3