Read the book about this. Murphy Killed 3 men by cut throat starting in Nov 1975. He was arrested for murder in March 1976 but eventually plea bargained to to a possession of firearms charge. He was out of the way and the police were a bit bemused that this was still going on after he had been arrested. Look at this form that perspective and you will see why Murphy was off the radar for so long, he was after all in Gaol.
@BintCrusher Read 'Killing for Britain', By John Black it explains exactly how the death squads were stup and commandeered; as an unorthodox Military weapon designed too fight the PIRA/IRA terroists by fighting fire with Fire.
@sgtcadaver1234 I have read that book. It is the biggest pile of shit going. The author was certainly never in the SAS, i'd be surprised if he ever served in the Army.
The police were well aware of the individuals but they needed to get the whole gang. These people were responsible for multiple MURDERS not just the butcher ones. The filth and scum who lived in that area had no courage, that is why there was a free hand for terrorism.
Unfortunately, if the butcher gang attacked people in the catholic areas then the police could have been called and they would have been arrested. The police were prevented from operating in the catholic areas because they were in real danger of being MURDERED by the very "people" they were sworn to protect. All the People of Northern Ireland.
I'd be inclined to agree with you if the police and the local military weren't so thoroughly in bed with the UVF and UDA. Face it, they were a part of the problem.
It was the fault of the prods living on the Shankill road that prevented the police getting to them. But I have to say FUCK THOSE TAIGO BASTARDS who try to put the British Army as in a position of blame.
I would give Jimmy an MBE.....An excellent officer. How sour is that Charlotte woman, my mother and father died in an IRA blast....she is so so bigoted , awful. Get on with life......we all had too. What about Bloody Friday etc etc...no one cares.
@bcfisle39 I'm from the Republic and I care about what happened on Bloody Friday, it was HORRIBLE and like Bloody Sunday it should NEVER have happened. None of it should. I hate the way all the finger pointing is still going on with all the bitterness still present. I was one of the many People who was delighted that the Queen's first visit here last Year was so well received. A positive step forward, and FUCK the begrudgers. They made us look like idiots.
I'm a protestant and I agree with Brendan Brown and alot of the people on the falls road, these killings were allowed to carry on, Jimmy nesbit couldn't look more like a liar than he does in that interview and I find it impossible to believe that they searched Moore's taxi without coming acroos a single strand of forensic evidence, you can always find something. Same as the old woman on the subject of the name given to the killers, it's as if the media were trying to stir more secterian rivalry.
the IRA had " phone taps " on ruc stations as far back as 1968 , are we to believe the british establisment had an inferior intelligence organisation ,
the special branch/cid officer when confronted with you werent looking 4 these charachters ...watch closley his eyes averting to the right =is the sign of dishonesty - collusion ? ...well anyway i often visited my brother in the h blocks ...once whilst visiting him ...Bates introduced himself to me with pride announcing whom he was & what his handy work also was ..he creeped me out and was an idiot ,his pride in his horrific work will stay with me always ,even if it only entailed a brief moment
actually eyes to the right and downhave often been confused with lies hence the expression "down right liar". In fact right or down right is a gesture of someone getting emotional. Eyes up and to the left denote use of imagination, therefore lie...
After shooting at the women in the car they then jumped and fired on an army road block who returned fire .the car was found by the army burning .At first light an army search team was called in who found the weapon "Lama 9mm pistol"within 15 mins .It was documented and turned over to the RUC.The army patrol and search team came from J (sidi rezegh ) Battery 3 RHA .The book by Martin Dillon is more factual than this documentry.
If anything, a lot of Catholics are more receptive to authentic, bible-thumping Protestantism the most ungodly 'Protestants', and paramilitary-cum-gangster thugs, especially in the Republic. Gone are the days when Loyalist paramilitaries stood for God and Ulster, and really did defend Protestants from Republicans.
There was a time when joining a paramilitary organisation was unavoidable, but that's not what Ulster needs now. What she needs is love and to bring God back into Ulster.
Shankill Butchers is very apt....they were from Shankill, Protestant and the whole community knew them.....the only shame attached IS with the Shankill Community....for keeping quiet and condoning them....the police were riddled with UDF UDA members so no surprise there !!!
Your comments on the start of the problems extremely ignorant koopanumnut. If you look properly at the statistics more Protestants were affected adversely by the voting set up at council level than Catholics and let's rem it was only council level. Pira took their chance to infaltrate and bastardise a movement set ip to look for better housing . Watching and listening to some of the shite on here is painfully u would think fat Nolan would know better. Than stir up old divides. How many prods
@snodds88 What a stupid statement to come out with, also I'd hardly refer to the IRA of the 60's-90's as scumbags- saviors, heroes, unlike wannabe IRA-esque groups such as the UDF who seem only capable of drug dealing, carjacking, general criminal activity. Without the RA's efforts Catholics in NI would still be regarded as second class citizens with no voice. The IRA through extensive bombing campaigns- gained rights for the Catholic population of Northern Ireland. Force was a necessity.
@KoopaKabana You seem to know nothing or very little about Nortern Ireland, your ignorance is bliss, I take your not from Northern Ireland because your comment is laughable. Dont you know how many innocent people the IRA Butcherd from the 60s to present day. Grow up and stop writeing Shite...
@snodds88 Excuse me? What is there to know? Are you suggesting that I am wrong in saying that Catholics living in Northern Ireland prior to the campaigns launched by the Republican paramilitaries had equal rights and were treated in the same manner as protestants? Don't confuse the IRA with breakaway groups such as those responsible for Ronan Kerr's death. And for the record the UDF/UFF/UVF are no saints. Innocent people were killed- they sure were by the murdering RUC and British soldiers.
Took the words out of my mouth, loyalists burning catholics out and attacking them while the RUC watched on started the troubles, what did you expect? People just to stand there and let them? the IRA overturned a biased government and police force.
@gforce1710 Idiotic reply. Your "argument" appeals to the wave of a magic wand or the creation of a time machine and you give a little ":)" like you are some kind of messiah problem solver, you're not - you are a twat.
PS I like how you would remove others, or rather take away thier opinion, yet speak of bigotry!
How could it? the UVF were cowards. Wouldnt stand and have a gun fight with anyone. Would rather sneak around killing innocent people after a night out.
so this is where the term shank originated
lilblitz 1 week ago
the Ex cid guy is absolutely covering up
Thylovely4you 1 month ago
Read the book about this. Murphy Killed 3 men by cut throat starting in Nov 1975. He was arrested for murder in March 1976 but eventually plea bargained to to a possession of firearms charge. He was out of the way and the police were a bit bemused that this was still going on after he had been arrested. Look at this form that perspective and you will see why Murphy was off the radar for so long, he was after all in Gaol.
BintCrusher 1 month ago
@BintCrusher Read 'Killing for Britain', By John Black it explains exactly how the death squads were stup and commandeered; as an unorthodox Military weapon designed too fight the PIRA/IRA terroists by fighting fire with Fire.
sgtcadaver1234 1 month ago
@sgtcadaver1234 I have read that book. It is the biggest pile of shit going. The author was certainly never in the SAS, i'd be surprised if he ever served in the Army.
BintCrusher 1 month ago
Even how this cop talks of murphy is like he admired him And seems to be still covering up for him just by his words and phrases
TokingOnCheese 1 month ago
this cop know the hole lot id say 80% of loyalist killing had a green light from some cops one way or another
TokingOnCheese 1 month ago
The police were well aware of the individuals but they needed to get the whole gang. These people were responsible for multiple MURDERS not just the butcher ones. The filth and scum who lived in that area had no courage, that is why there was a free hand for terrorism.
BintCrusher 2 months ago
Unfortunately, if the butcher gang attacked people in the catholic areas then the police could have been called and they would have been arrested. The police were prevented from operating in the catholic areas because they were in real danger of being MURDERED by the very "people" they were sworn to protect. All the People of Northern Ireland.
BintCrusher 2 months ago
@BintCrusher
I'd be inclined to agree with you if the police and the local military weren't so thoroughly in bed with the UVF and UDA. Face it, they were a part of the problem.
mst3k4evur 2 months ago
@mst3k4evur yea fuck the UVF and fuck the IRA and fuck the brits
420Crackdealer 16 hours ago
It was the fault of the prods living on the Shankill road that prevented the police getting to them. But I have to say FUCK THOSE TAIGO BASTARDS who try to put the British Army as in a position of blame.
BintCrusher 3 months ago
I would give Jimmy an MBE.....An excellent officer. How sour is that Charlotte woman, my mother and father died in an IRA blast....she is so so bigoted , awful. Get on with life......we all had too. What about Bloody Friday etc etc...no one cares.
bcfisle39 3 months ago
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soeffingwhat 1 month ago
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@bcfisle39 I'm from the Republic and I care about what happened on Bloody Friday, it was HORRIBLE and like Bloody Sunday it should NEVER have happened. None of it should. I hate the way all the finger pointing is still going on with all the bitterness still present. I was one of the many People who was delighted that the Queen's first visit here last Year was so well received. A positive step forward, and FUCK the begrudgers. They made us look like idiots.
soeffingwhat 1 month ago
I'm a protestant and I agree with Brendan Brown and alot of the people on the falls road, these killings were allowed to carry on, Jimmy nesbit couldn't look more like a liar than he does in that interview and I find it impossible to believe that they searched Moore's taxi without coming acroos a single strand of forensic evidence, you can always find something. Same as the old woman on the subject of the name given to the killers, it's as if the media were trying to stir more secterian rivalry.
MrChristophe156 4 months ago
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10047paul 4 months ago
Its men like the one below me that will ultimatley lead to the destruction of mankind...your a devil...I hope you feel the pain of eternal flames!
colinfitz89 4 months ago
bitch in red, ever been to a dentist you IRA cunt, what did you get your da for fathers day you whore cunt. ha ha
bcfisle39 4 months ago
@bcfisle39 your an absolute scum bag and family must be evil people
thebigfella221 3 months ago
@bcfisle39 and what about dirty basher bates grandson abusing kids, evil thick fat basher got what he desereved hope his sick grandson gets the same
thebigfella221 3 months ago
ha ha, hows you da, sore throat?? get it sewn up you cunt in red bitch fuker
bcfisle39 4 months ago
the IRA had " phone taps " on ruc stations as far back as 1968 , are we to believe the british establisment had an inferior intelligence organisation ,
franreilley 6 months ago
@franreilley maybe james bond was too busy with the russians....
kurlobe 5 months ago
the special branch/cid officer when confronted with you werent looking 4 these charachters ...watch closley his eyes averting to the right =is the sign of dishonesty - collusion ? ...well anyway i often visited my brother in the h blocks ...once whilst visiting him ...Bates introduced himself to me with pride announcing whom he was & what his handy work also was ..he creeped me out and was an idiot ,his pride in his horrific work will stay with me always ,even if it only entailed a brief moment
jStevieO 6 months ago
@jStevieO
actually eyes to the right and downhave often been confused with lies hence the expression "down right liar". In fact right or down right is a gesture of someone getting emotional. Eyes up and to the left denote use of imagination, therefore lie...
kulichan 5 months ago
What a hopeless argument. This was a bunch of killers end of.
BintCrusher 7 months ago
After shooting at the women in the car they then jumped and fired on an army road block who returned fire .the car was found by the army burning .At first light an army search team was called in who found the weapon "Lama 9mm pistol"within 15 mins .It was documented and turned over to the RUC.The army patrol and search team came from J (sidi rezegh ) Battery 3 RHA .The book by Martin Dillon is more factual than this documentry.
johndarnbrough 7 months ago
@11:14 u can see the LIE on the face of the EX CID guy. just lying like shit. smh
MARVIA35 7 months ago
If anything, a lot of Catholics are more receptive to authentic, bible-thumping Protestantism the most ungodly 'Protestants', and paramilitary-cum-gangster thugs, especially in the Republic. Gone are the days when Loyalist paramilitaries stood for God and Ulster, and really did defend Protestants from Republicans.
There was a time when joining a paramilitary organisation was unavoidable, but that's not what Ulster needs now. What she needs is love and to bring God back into Ulster.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
Shankill Butchers is very apt....they were from Shankill, Protestant and the whole community knew them.....the only shame attached IS with the Shankill Community....for keeping quiet and condoning them....the police were riddled with UDF UDA members so no surprise there !!!
macbrack04 8 months ago
Your comments on the start of the problems extremely ignorant koopanumnut. If you look properly at the statistics more Protestants were affected adversely by the voting set up at council level than Catholics and let's rem it was only council level. Pira took their chance to infaltrate and bastardise a movement set ip to look for better housing . Watching and listening to some of the shite on here is painfully u would think fat Nolan would know better. Than stir up old divides. How many prods
youngnetownon 8 months ago
i have a feeling that police officer is lieing
legoloveable 8 months ago
@legoloveable Same, no way his taxi could have been checked without nothing coming through, blood stains etc.
glasgowdmon 8 months ago
This is off topic but Lenny Murphy is a double of Joe Cole.
knoble430 10 months ago
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PaulMcM90 10 months ago
R.I.P Shankill Butchers xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
chugger2hotty 10 months ago
@chugger2hotty
Rotting In Pieces!!!
BlockedParty 10 months ago
If it hadnt been for the Murdering IRA Scumbags then there would have been no Shankill Butchers, The IRA are as much to blame for this aswell...
snodds88 11 months ago
@snodds88 are you fucking stupid?
InTheMix2010 11 months ago
@snodds88 What a stupid statement to come out with, also I'd hardly refer to the IRA of the 60's-90's as scumbags- saviors, heroes, unlike wannabe IRA-esque groups such as the UDF who seem only capable of drug dealing, carjacking, general criminal activity. Without the RA's efforts Catholics in NI would still be regarded as second class citizens with no voice. The IRA through extensive bombing campaigns- gained rights for the Catholic population of Northern Ireland. Force was a necessity.
KoopaKabana 10 months ago
@KoopaKabana You seem to know nothing or very little about Nortern Ireland, your ignorance is bliss, I take your not from Northern Ireland because your comment is laughable. Dont you know how many innocent people the IRA Butcherd from the 60s to present day. Grow up and stop writeing Shite...
snodds88 10 months ago
@snodds88 Excuse me? What is there to know? Are you suggesting that I am wrong in saying that Catholics living in Northern Ireland prior to the campaigns launched by the Republican paramilitaries had equal rights and were treated in the same manner as protestants? Don't confuse the IRA with breakaway groups such as those responsible for Ronan Kerr's death. And for the record the UDF/UFF/UVF are no saints. Innocent people were killed- they sure were by the murdering RUC and British soldiers.
KoopaKabana 10 months ago
@KoopaKabana
Took the words out of my mouth, loyalists burning catholics out and attacking them while the RUC watched on started the troubles, what did you expect? People just to stand there and let them? the IRA overturned a biased government and police force.
BlockedParty 10 months ago
@BlockedParty Exactly.
KoopaKabana 10 months ago
@KoopaKabana So true. People can only take so much for so long until they stand up and fight back.
mervbhoy1888 10 months ago
@snodds88
Had there been no British tyranny, and Biggots like you, The IRA wouldn't exist.
Back in your box :)
gforce1710 8 months ago
@gforce1710 Idiotic reply. Your "argument" appeals to the wave of a magic wand or the creation of a time machine and you give a little ":)" like you are some kind of messiah problem solver, you're not - you are a twat.
PS I like how you would remove others, or rather take away thier opinion, yet speak of bigotry!
andy7666 8 months ago
@andy7666
Haha. The opinion? The offensive comment on a video you mean.
gforce1710 8 months ago
@andy7666 hardly surprising that you misunderstand the term 'bigot'
manchesterblue2007 7 months ago
Jimmy: "we done everything to catch them"
Why didnt you set up a sting? have a man walking down Millfield and have undercover police in waiting, what that not of caught them?
BlockedParty 11 months ago
@BlockedParty According to the book they tried that but operation stakeknife failed as the butchers were inactive during this period of time.
ephabouyed 10 months ago
@BlockedParty
Because that would or could get an officer killed, very easily.
trollfinger 10 months ago
@trollfinger
How could it? the UVF were cowards. Wouldnt stand and have a gun fight with anyone. Would rather sneak around killing innocent people after a night out.
BlockedParty 10 months ago