Yeah, Trader Jack is doing wonders! I was referring to Sexson, Beltre (although he is awesome), Boone, and all the other power hitters that came to Seattle.
The only power hitter who would've had an ounce of success at Safeco would be Junior.
Gillick was an ok GM. Yes he built the 2001 record setting team but he was waaay too conservative in '02 and '03 and let those teams fall out of contention because he wouldn't pull the trigger.
Trading Adam Jones, george sherrill and some other player for Erik Bedard. I never thought we'd see a trade worse than the heathcliff slocomb trade. I was wrong.
GO MARINERS!!! fuck yah! except mclaren wasnt a very good manager. actuall hargrove was the manager that wrked best for us since lou, but poitics forced him to step down. We are unfortunatly gonna suck next year to i mean we have a team that kinda hates each other (ESPECIALLY BEDARD) and i dont say this with out evidence. i used to work for the mariners and if you read some credible blogs it will tell you about the same thing
well this is what i heard, it was either ichiro or hargrove. ichiro might have walked because he didnt like hargrove but the deal got done practically as soon as he stepped down.
he said he needed time to spend with his family and child. he had his wife and kid in ohio. he only spent 3 months a year with them. he wanted to be with them. he was a good manager.
Good to see a bit of passion and heart in sport... I have no idea about baseball but If I were to support a team It would be Seattle.. Soley because the manager here seems dedicated and wears his heart on his sleeve...
Our team is goin through hard times like a NY Yankee fan or manager would know anything about that u over pay every player coach or employee, and when u do that u get to win well not lately cuz u have found out to that when u have giant egos in the clubhouse u dont win in the playoffs just keep payin those yankees to win that divison or get the wild card but real winner play for the love of the game and pay rod knows nothing about that so good luck with ur team leader NY FUCK THA YANKS GO M"S!!!
Hardly anyone plays for the fun of the game, there all about the money. Only a few people would forfeit an extra million just to stay with their team. Not every team is lucky to have players like these. And who cares what our payroll is. We HAVE the money to spend, WHY NOT SPEND IT...it would be pointless to hang onto an extra 100 million if we could pay it out to get some good players.
Actually Seattle is a great place to live & the blame shouldn't be laid on John but rather on upper management who paid a bunch of money to get a pitcher & call him our ace after havin 1 good season, not all the M's are over paid just Bedard Sexson & Beltre are every1 else either pulls their weight or doesn't have an enflamed salary. Seattle needed to keep having fun like last year but u cant do that when u get a giant ego movin n & a our rally starters leavin. & our woman r sexy here u NY Fagit
It's pretty sad. Coming in to the season experts, and myself included, predicted that the Mariners would win the AL West. All of the pieces were in place and ARE in place, but there's something going on that we don't know about.
How can Beltre be hitting .222 and Sexson around .210? I remember when we signed these guys back to back days a few years back. Beltre had just hit 40+ HR's with a .334 avg. Sexson was a consistent 40 HR guy. We traded for Bedard this year.
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brooklyny1 is obviously an ignorant douchebag who does a great job of representing a filthy, noisy overcrowded shithole. Please don't ever come to the Emerald City and stink up our beautiful slice of Heaven. Bitch.
McClaren, you, Bavasi, the whole front office, and a few of the players, are BLEEPING losers and should be fired, if this was Chicago, you would have been run out of town along time ago, play the minor league stars the rest of the year and bench or trade Sexson and Vidro. So many player mental errors and bad Manager calls, one example, June 1st loss, McClaren should never have taken out Morrow in the 9th, for JJ Putz who gave up 4 runs, McClaren, you and Bavasi, need to fired TODAY!
A contrived and pathetic performance from a pathetic man. I've been a Mariners fan from day one, when they lost 0-6 to the A's, but I've never seen the team so pitiful and rudderless as today. McLaren and Bavasi should be shown the door as soon as possible.
Bavasi is the worst. Mclaren is a decent manager. His coaching staff is one of the best. Our bandage fix approach is the worst. I'm sorry to Wilkerson, Cirillo, Sexson, Vidro, Everett, Washburn, Batista, and whoever else wants to sign on this team for big bucks....the Bavasi needs to go.
lol ya good for the Red Wings but I was hoping that if the Penguins didn't win, they would force a game 7 but didn't. Either way, neither one of those are my favorite hockey team, I was just going for Pittsburgh.
Mclearen isn't the problem at all...the team is capable of doing so much better but right now they suck. get rid of Richie, Vidro Batista and Washburn...get some free agents that can hit the ball and some decent pitching.
FU Angel fans. You never gave a rat's ass about your team until rally monkey was born. BTW, it was an AIDS-infected monkey on a hot plate, you animal-hating bastards.
You sorry BEEP, you must be a BEEPING Marineros BEEPING fan!! BOO HOO, the ANGELS swept our BEEPING asses just like they are doing to everybody else!! Grow some BEEPING balls you BEEPING cry babies! Just face it ,your BEEPING team sucks balls. After all those lost games I'm surprised your BEEPING coach still shows his BEEPING face on camera. GO ANGELS!! Who else wants some??
hahahaha, and what makes you think the angels are gonna go to the world series, cuz they're in first place? fuck that they aint makin it to the world series, keep on dreaming
I was glad to finally see some emotion out of ths guy even if it was rehearsed. Something is better than sittin there with a frown. Will this tirade spark new life into my mariners? Probably not. They need to find a superstition or something. Maybe get a mohawk. haha. Thanks for posting this video, go m's.
Are you dumb? The Angels are ahead of them by 13+ games, its basically in the toilet if they don't turn it around. They have the worst record in baseball right now. You can't blame the guy for being upset anyway.
this sorry ass team can't win shit, they have no talent and their ownership is the worst in Baseball. I mean c'mon Bavasi passes on Geoff jenkins but signs Brad wilkerson!!!!! they can't recognize talent because they have no talent themselves
The team is a complete mess because of the general manager, one of the worst if not the worst in the league. He is the one who signed all of these mediocre players, often to big contracts. The saddest thing is he thought the team would have a chance to win the division when all the M's bloggers thought otherwise.
Have u not heard a coach before? That's not even close to flipping out, and anyway he's jus sayin what every mariners fan (including me) is thinking
minnesotatwins1987 1 year ago
thank you god this sob is gone
holjesus 1 year ago
this guy was horrible for the mariners, horrible.
WkurwionyDzieciak89 2 years ago
He got so much pressure being a manager. he was a bench coach in the 90s with the mariners. I've met mclaren several times. he was nice then.
sono23 2 years ago
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Watch your mouth you damn manager suck my dick
briancalifornia1 2 years ago
next to Wakamatsu, Pinella is the best GM the Mariners have ever had. Can't replace sweet Lou!
DJM442 2 years ago 2
you mean manager not gm
ImBkPeeps23 2 years ago 2
Wakamatsu is the SHIT!! Such a good manager! I'm so hopeful of our team this year, I think we have what it takes to win the world series, for sure!
EmeraldEchelon 2 years ago 2
After Pat Gillick, Jack Zduriencik is the best GM the Mariners have had.
Bavasi screwed Seattle over, Gillick understood what Safeco was built for; Speed and defense. Not these power charged freaks.
Seattle Mariners, World Champions 2010
megamanxvi 2 years ago
power charged freaks? haha just say it . . roid-heads. but i totally agree, Zduriencik is the M-F'ing man. i just miss Sweet Lou's tirades.
DJM442 2 years ago
Yeah, Trader Jack is doing wonders! I was referring to Sexson, Beltre (although he is awesome), Boone, and all the other power hitters that came to Seattle.
The only power hitter who would've had an ounce of success at Safeco would be Junior.
megamanxvi 2 years ago
haha think if griffey got a ring with seattle during his last season... i think i could die a happy man
lancewwu 1 year ago
Gillick was an ok GM. Yes he built the 2001 record setting team but he was waaay too conservative in '02 and '03 and let those teams fall out of contention because he wouldn't pull the trigger.
UGLYSTIKCOLIN 1 year ago
Consider this
since Gillick has left his past 3 franchises (Toronto, Baltimore and Seattle) none of the teams have made it to the playoffs
Gillick did what he needed to do to get into the playoffs, everything else was up to the manager, coaches and players
megamanxvi 1 year ago
That's true. And then we had Bill Bavasi come in and he didn't do a bad job until the offseason in 2008. Then shit hit the fan.
UGLYSTIKCOLIN 1 year ago
Bavasi, was a joke. The whole deal with him is that he thought power was the way to go
losing seasons from 04-06 and 2008, Bavasi blew it big time
megamanxvi 1 year ago
Trading Adam Jones, george sherrill and some other player for Erik Bedard. I never thought we'd see a trade worse than the heathcliff slocomb trade. I was wrong.
Of course, Adam Jones is now an All star player.
UGLYSTIKCOLIN 1 year ago
Now, potentially, it could've been a great trade. But Erik Bedard proved to be fragile and George Sherrill and Adam Jones broke out with Baltimore
What about the trade that Shin Soo-Choo to Cleveland for Ben Broussard and Eddie Perez.
Choo is a great hitter and we don't have Broussard or Perez anymore.
Why it took Chuck Armstrong so damn long to get rid of Bavasi is beyond me
megamanxvi 1 year ago
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Dumb Downed sports for Dumb Downed Americans
WarDogLRS 2 years ago
Maybe they need to spend less money on Campbell's Chunky Soup and more money on better coaches.
BlackTalon9x19 2 years ago
I think you're thinking about the NFL. If that's the case well, we haven't seen what the new coach of the Seahawks can do yet.
SquishyKitty 2 years ago
what? what does campbell's have to do with it?
sono23 2 years ago
you know what, you have no idea. just absolutly no clue. shove it.
gara094 3 years ago
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lol fucking mariners suck!!! i hate gtting stuck in that traffic 4 a team that never wins!!!
ubloom3 3 years ago
shut the fuck up don't go then. SIMPLE!
gara094 3 years ago
GO MARINERS!!! fuck yah! except mclaren wasnt a very good manager. actuall hargrove was the manager that wrked best for us since lou, but poitics forced him to step down. We are unfortunatly gonna suck next year to i mean we have a team that kinda hates each other (ESPECIALLY BEDARD) and i dont say this with out evidence. i used to work for the mariners and if you read some credible blogs it will tell you about the same thing
irishguy1131 3 years ago
wait, why did hargrove step down?
i never really found out why
tiland520 2 years ago
well this is what i heard, it was either ichiro or hargrove. ichiro might have walked because he didnt like hargrove but the deal got done practically as soon as he stepped down.
irishguy1131 2 years ago
he said he needed time to spend with his family and child. he had his wife and kid in ohio. he only spent 3 months a year with them. he wanted to be with them. he was a good manager.
sono23 2 years ago
Anyone got the uncensored version?
ECG3485 3 years ago
poor guy. Go mariners!
gara094 3 years ago
Well said, Mclaren! It's got to be a total team effort. But he said more than a couple of things ;-)
lcvd1 3 years ago
he must of known he was getting fired
thewooomaster 3 years ago 2
Good to see a bit of passion and heart in sport... I have no idea about baseball but If I were to support a team It would be Seattle.. Soley because the manager here seems dedicated and wears his heart on his sleeve...
Rantomon 3 years ago
Mariners rule!
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
Our team is goin through hard times like a NY Yankee fan or manager would know anything about that u over pay every player coach or employee, and when u do that u get to win well not lately cuz u have found out to that when u have giant egos in the clubhouse u dont win in the playoffs just keep payin those yankees to win that divison or get the wild card but real winner play for the love of the game and pay rod knows nothing about that so good luck with ur team leader NY FUCK THA YANKS GO M"S!!!
mikegringo22 3 years ago
Hardly anyone plays for the fun of the game, there all about the money. Only a few people would forfeit an extra million just to stay with their team. Not every team is lucky to have players like these. And who cares what our payroll is. We HAVE the money to spend, WHY NOT SPEND IT...it would be pointless to hang onto an extra 100 million if we could pay it out to get some good players.
DIeiagthht 3 years ago
Actually Seattle is a great place to live & the blame shouldn't be laid on John but rather on upper management who paid a bunch of money to get a pitcher & call him our ace after havin 1 good season, not all the M's are over paid just Bedard Sexson & Beltre are every1 else either pulls their weight or doesn't have an enflamed salary. Seattle needed to keep having fun like last year but u cant do that when u get a giant ego movin n & a our rally starters leavin. & our woman r sexy here u NY Fagit
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
He just got fired.
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what u mean? i admit we suck at sports but we have alot of ohter great things
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brookfeildpro2 3 years ago
It's pretty sad. Coming in to the season experts, and myself included, predicted that the Mariners would win the AL West. All of the pieces were in place and ARE in place, but there's something going on that we don't know about.
How can Beltre be hitting .222 and Sexson around .210? I remember when we signed these guys back to back days a few years back. Beltre had just hit 40+ HR's with a .334 avg. Sexson was a consistent 40 HR guy. We traded for Bedard this year.
What happened?
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
NY GIANTS RULE
YANKEES 26 world series!!!
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
wish they had an uncut version of this lol.
BOX5 3 years ago
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
So says another big nose, funny talker, who has never even been to Seattle!
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
Well coach, its your job to win! I'd love to see this guy and lou Pinella in a fist fight.Lou would mop thefloor with mc's candy ass!
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
who is this clown? I haven't heard of this guy until his tirade.
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
says the yankee fan?
e30roundel 3 years ago
brooklyny1 is obviously an ignorant douchebag who does a great job of representing a filthy, noisy overcrowded shithole. Please don't ever come to the Emerald City and stink up our beautiful slice of Heaven. Bitch.
benlcosta 3 years ago
AGREED!!!
Go M's!
XDUKAHX 3 years ago
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brooklyny1 3 years ago
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lol at 27 seconds there is a toilet noise for the UGly city of seatttle MAINERS SUCK
brooklyny1 3 years ago
Seattle ugly?
Youre an IDIOT
tukwila206 3 years ago 6
we need to get rid of howard lincoln, he is the guy who hires everybody.
neoflare101 3 years ago 5
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McClaren, you, Bavasi, the whole front office, and a few of the players, are BLEEPING losers and should be fired, if this was Chicago, you would have been run out of town along time ago, play the minor league stars the rest of the year and bench or trade Sexson and Vidro. So many player mental errors and bad Manager calls, one example, June 1st loss, McClaren should never have taken out Morrow in the 9th, for JJ Putz who gave up 4 runs, McClaren, you and Bavasi, need to fired TODAY!
oldcoursestandrews 3 years ago
A contrived and pathetic performance from a pathetic man. I've been a Mariners fan from day one, when they lost 0-6 to the A's, but I've never seen the team so pitiful and rudderless as today. McLaren and Bavasi should be shown the door as soon as possible.
linhdinh99 3 years ago
Ahhh, let me get out my violin...
scottof83 3 years ago
Bavasi is the worst. Mclaren is a decent manager. His coaching staff is one of the best. Our bandage fix approach is the worst. I'm sorry to Wilkerson, Cirillo, Sexson, Vidro, Everett, Washburn, Batista, and whoever else wants to sign on this team for big bucks....the Bavasi needs to go.
robbygoodspeed 3 years ago 2
i love it
dednigggerstorage 3 years ago
Go Red Wings!!!
LinksNRinks30 3 years ago
lol ya good for the Red Wings but I was hoping that if the Penguins didn't win, they would force a game 7 but didn't. Either way, neither one of those are my favorite hockey team, I was just going for Pittsburgh.
phoenixknight666 3 years ago
censoring is bullshit
damnationdefied777 3 years ago
i agree rusty said that 2 years ago Bavasi needs to go and Maclaren needs to go also
jack
bauer024 3 years ago
bavasi is to blame. noting will change in Seattle until he is gone!
rustylynette 3 years ago
Mclearen isn't the problem at all...the team is capable of doing so much better but right now they suck. get rid of Richie, Vidro Batista and Washburn...get some free agents that can hit the ball and some decent pitching.
baseballandguitar27 3 years ago
FU Angel fans. You never gave a rat's ass about your team until rally monkey was born. BTW, it was an AIDS-infected monkey on a hot plate, you animal-hating bastards.
DrDupe 3 years ago 2
You sorry BEEP, you must be a BEEPING Marineros BEEPING fan!! BOO HOO, the ANGELS swept our BEEPING asses just like they are doing to everybody else!! Grow some BEEPING balls you BEEPING cry babies! Just face it ,your BEEPING team sucks balls. After all those lost games I'm surprised your BEEPING coach still shows his BEEPING face on camera. GO ANGELS!! Who else wants some??
vinceman69 3 years ago
shut the fuck up you sorry piece of shit angels fan, i bet you're one of the thousands of bandwagon angel fans aren't ya?
e30roundel 3 years ago
BOO HOO, "I'm a Marineros fan, I'm sad cuzz my team is in very last place with no chance of the WORLD SERIES in sight." Grow some BALLS!! CHIYON!
vinceman69 3 years ago
hahahaha, and what makes you think the angels are gonna go to the world series, cuz they're in first place? fuck that they aint makin it to the world series, keep on dreaming
e30roundel 3 years ago 2
We aallll know who is definitely not going -------- WHO? THE MARINEROS!! HAHAHA !SUCKA!
vinceman69 3 years ago
Amen ANGELS SUCK!!!! WHITE SOX OWNED YOU IN 2005 WELL DO IT AGAIN!!!
megadethrulz 3 years ago 3
i bet Vinceman is, only a true seattlite roots for the mariners no matter how many games they lose.
XDUKAHX 3 years ago
Amen, Go M's!
e30roundel 3 years ago 2
I am tired of bandwagon fans, Go Mariners, Through think and thin!
XDUKAHX 3 years ago
well if his player's played as well as he mastered the english lanquage they would be in the world series
crapper007 3 years ago
stupid mclaren
rollercoasterfweak 3 years ago
I was glad to finally see some emotion out of ths guy even if it was rehearsed. Something is better than sittin there with a frown. Will this tirade spark new life into my mariners? Probably not. They need to find a superstition or something. Maybe get a mohawk. haha. Thanks for posting this video, go m's.
jtlyons006 3 years ago
IM GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT....let me say what i was told to memorize.
westy123 3 years ago
Hey John, try flipping out BEFORE the season's in the friggin toilet!!!!
banderhoos 3 years ago
Are you dumb? The Angels are ahead of them by 13+ games, its basically in the toilet if they don't turn it around. They have the worst record in baseball right now. You can't blame the guy for being upset anyway.
CabooseSniper 3 years ago
Not nearly as great as Lee Elia's historic tirade.
fraggle12 3 years ago
Go Seatle manures!! opps..
Mariners! same shit...
punchahoochie 3 years ago
hahahahahha manures haha
JosephDanksta 3 years ago
That tirade was pretty lame. Seemed too contrived like he was thinking about doing it for way too long.
misteree78 3 years ago
I agree..you know it's genuine when the beeps string out for like 2 seconds...lollllll
scorpionJB 3 years ago
this sorry ass team can't win shit, they have no talent and their ownership is the worst in Baseball. I mean c'mon Bavasi passes on Geoff jenkins but signs Brad wilkerson!!!!! they can't recognize talent because they have no talent themselves
joeb1963 3 years ago
The thing is though Seattle had a pretty good pitching staff and they should be better.
mjs42591 3 years ago
The team is a complete mess because of the general manager, one of the worst if not the worst in the league. He is the one who signed all of these mediocre players, often to big contracts. The saddest thing is he thought the team would have a chance to win the division when all the M's bloggers thought otherwise.
mutualfunmanager 3 years ago