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  • if you don't know what are the law on carring a gun is better to keep your words to your self!!!

  • ...I dont think that first guy thought that the others all had guns, too.

    He seemed fairly surprised when they also pulled guns and consequently started screamin and shootin...If only I understood that black dialect

  • TYT you are ignorant ! Please tell me how many of those guns in that video were carried legally ? Criminals will always have access to guns, you could ban guns throughout the entire country and you will still see videos such as this one.

    Personally, I'd rather have a shooters chance if someone started firing a gun at me. I guess TYT would rather live in their protected fantasy land where it's all unicorns and pixie dust.

    Wake up America !

  • so of course the liberals (you) practically defend the sociopaths who will always find a way to get weapons like they always do, and disarm the law abiding citizens (the ones defending themselves from the sociopaths) so they can become statistics, and not stories of them saving innocent people from the sociopaths.

    tell me, how many students WOULDN'T have died if campus security at Virginia tech had firearms?

  • The young JERKS.....typical liberal morons....takes one case of a bar shooting....what do you expect in a liberal-created ghetto....animals....created after decades of left wing liberal forced welfare spawnings....How about the 1.5 million times a year that firearms have prevented a crime for the last 10 yrs? You fags are just despicable

  • You guys suck

  • Young Turk ur an idiot! i bet they didn't have a permit for those guns , even if they make them legal or not the criminals r still gonna have guns

  • This is a liberal and false depection on law abiding citizens carrying guns... none of these guys besides the bar owner had a permit to carry cause if they did they wouldn't be selling weed... its shitty reporters like you putting shit like this out there that guns are bad and we shouldn't have them.

  • and I bet none of these people had a legal right to carry a gun selling weed means theyre criminals and have a stolen gun this guy Young Turk is a fuckin idiot

  • lol turkey implemented gun control on the armenians before they killed over one million of them in a genocide. gun control precedes genocide.

  • And I always thought Ohio was the most boring place in the US, but wow, this may prove me wrong. I've watched five of TYT videos today that took place in Ohio. And I live here.

  • Dude u need to go back to whatever liberty hateing country you came from cause you are a disgrace to this country!

  • I think your heart is in the right place. I just don't have the same confidence in people that you do. I want my gun because of this. Say the goverment says no guns how they gonna enforce it hmmm with guns. i don't trust others to givet there guns up so I'm keeping mine. It comes down to the emotion of distrust in people and this video makes me trust em less. Guns are America and trying to take them would cause a war.

  • All criminals were law abiding citizens before their first crime.

  • Gangstas do gangstas shit, point plank

  • Sir I recommend you read the book " More Guns Less Crime" it's a statistical read all based on facts not emotion. I'd inform myself before broadcasting publicly ill conceived notions as the ones you did. A definition of a criminal is a person who does not follow laws, why would banning guns stop crimnals they'll only stop law abiding people from acquiring them. an armed society is a polite society, I refuse to be a victim or a serf of a tyrantical government , The Infidel

  • @Dickeythorsen

    "an armed society is a polite society"

    Explain the US then. Were the most heavily armed country in the world, and wouldn't ya know it, we have the highest gun murder rate too. Derp.

  • this is stupid these guys dont have permits or anything there just thugs

  • @Jasper360ci

    how about we take all the guns away like here in great britain that would shut your right wing loonatic mouth :)

  • @mattman1991woot and then we can all stab each other just like in great britain, than we can install security cameras on every light pole like in great britain wouldn't that be great..

  • @superacer1 So your defense of everyone having a gun is that without them, we'd all be stabbing each other and be under gov't surveillance? Why not up the antie and make it mandatory for everyone to carry grenades?

  • @StevenBee2 too much collateral

  • You left wing cock sucker... the argument is that LAW ABIDING citizens bring able to carry firearms... not drunken hoodrats ....

  • and this is what we call, a nigger moment

  • O shit, i live in this town

  • thay are gang bangers you nerd. if it was not for a gun my friend would have been hert bad. and she is a women. so shut up. till it happens to you. you are a tipe of person that thinks he knows it all. when some one hearts one of your family or some one you love. you will think (( mane i am slupped))

  • Why wouldn't he take a one-way flight to Turkey and stay there if he doesn't like Ameriсa the way it is?

  • @AntonScream cos Turkey sucks ass!

  • @vladi420 Then tell this fat scumbag to shut his trap, and enjoy the freedom of this great country.

  • Yeah, you know what? that's called gang activities, you f...cking jerk. And law abiding citizens must have the means for protection from these sort of clowns. Most of the shooting monkeys I saw on this tape must have done this for fun. Because that's the way brainless idiots spend their "quality time".

  • The guy out side was playing to much cod

  • The guys with the guns must be the guys from the Rambo films.

  • i roflmao when i watched this

  • @Z1onseven actually the guy is sometimes on msnbc (national televison). please explain how you couldnt agree with his views, i thought he made perfect sense.

  • @LECHERO187 ur missing the point, they said nothing about getting guns legally, its only when stupid republicans sign laws that allow guns in dangerous places like bars, thats when problems start. we already know that alcohol and driving dont mix, so its illegal, then shouldnt we know that alcohol and guns dont mix either?

  • TYT are FAGS these guys are high power politically correct pieces of Zionist shit!!

  • WOW, i cant find anything that this idiot in this video and i can agree on. tyt is a joke and it's no wonder he's only on youtube or some low budget channel somewhere

    

  • .guns dont kill people .people kill people its your right as an American citizen to have the right to keep and bear arms bad people rare always going to be around fucking it up for the rest of us dont punish the ones that are obtaining the guns legally

  • This stuff gets on my nerves ,MrCupcake357 stated the guys on the video shooting probably had no permits for there guns.your making it seem as tho they did and by allowing us the people to have and own guns is a bad idea, that this would happen more often, for you to think that is absurd

  • the guy on the outside thought he had fmj

  • this will happen with gun bans

    this is just as bad as the drug war its going to get you no where

  • wow no one got hurt! hahaha

  • ah perfect time for a sawn off lol

  • Were these people all registered firearms users? Was it mutual combat? If they all said OK, let's shootout and they were all Concealed carry, then fine... If someone was saying "Don't shoot, I have my Legal weapon to defend myself but I want to leave" Then not fine

  • Dumbass like this liberal pussy are fucking retarded! Just because a few gangsters and serial killers have UNREGISTERED guns does NOT mean that all LAW ABIDING gun owners should be punished for it!

    CENK IS FUCKING RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • you stupid bias fuck. how many of these clowns owned thier guns legally?? i bet my life none of them did.

  • KILLEM NI99as

  • HAHA, this is typical journalism that does not present facts before reporting. In Ohio it is ILLEGAL to posses a firearm inside a Class D Liquor establishment. Not to mention the Anchor says that a person was selling pot, inside the bar, with a gun.....which is a felony. Now under the current ORC you cannot posses a firearm in a bar, well that CLEARLY stopped the criminals who had guns. I am so disappointed that criminals do not obey the law! Just remember..Murder is against the law.

  • I DON'T TYT AT ALL. He is trying to trample gun rights for law abiding citizens. I strongly doubt anyone of theses people were carrying a gun LEGALLY. It is a FELONY to sell drugs and being carrying a gun in any state in the US period. If you get caught with narcotics and carrying a gun you are going to jail for a long time. The guy that owns the bar had a trespasser that was in a felonious manner carrying a weapon while selling narcotics. What if this criminal was the only one packing?

  • only maybe 3 people in the video had a gun, and this is one of the rare video that have a shootout. Last I don't like this guys channel because is always anti-gun he sucks. What because you are not allowed legally to carry a gun you think that will stop people from carrying a gun? Please look at maryland.

  • The host(s) of these shows r so lame smh

  • I guarantee not a single one of those guns was registered or licsenced, so everything you said was crap. no we didnt "just go through this" that didnt happen even during the "wild west" the gun fight at the ok coral was the law taking guns from citizens. no you dont get to take my second amedment right because you dont think I need them.

  • @mnymj How easy would it have been for them to obtain a license? Licensed or not, it doesn't change the situation.

    It might also suprise you to know that the second ammendment right is wrong. The consitution is not an infallible piece of sacred doctrine. It was written by men, only a few hundred years ago. They lived in a time when 'arms' meant a single shooter pistol or rifle. If we take the 'right to bear arms' literally, do all have the right to have an RPG in our shed?

  • @Slapbass13 Yes... as the government which our right to bear arms grows to even more heinous and dangerous weapons, we have no choice to but start defending ourselves against their possible attacks from air or tank. The first line is the freedom of speech and the checks and balances of power ensuring that they do not put anybody in that situation and respect our rights.

  • @girty367 Then try and pass an amendment. Remember though that our RKBA doesn't come from the Constitution. It's just listed there as something gov't can't mess with. We'll still consider RKBA as something that can't be taken away, since it's ultimate function is to prevent gov't tiranny, and attempts to taking our guns will show its progression to tiranny. Notice that every single time our Gov works to take our guns, more pple buy them. You don't buy something you will lose, right? Let it sink

  • Then try and pass an amendment. Remember though that our RKBA doesn't come from the Constitution. It'is just listed there as something gov't cannot mess with. We will still consider RKBA as something that cannot be taken away, since it's ultimate function is to prevent gov't tiranny, and steps toward taking our guns will show its progression to tiranny. Notice that every single time our Gov works to take our guns, more people buy them. You don't buy something you will lose, right? ..Let it sink.

  • Ohio laws do say the bar owner can post a "no firearms" sign and even CCW licensees cant come in with a gun. Also, you cannot conceal carry in if you are drinking. This makes sure anyone stepping over these lines can be charged.

  • My opinion is simple, if you want a gun, buy it. If not please do not go to a gun shop. Dont own one. We all have rights to own them IF WE WANT TO..Better to have a gun and not need it, then need it and not have it. My guess is that the narator would be one of the first ones to start wimpering like a lil girl if attacked by some A.<<hole with a gun or knife or crowbar. Get a life dude, meaning the narator..Hopefully this guy will see the light....I doubt it.

  • @graybeard19 I think that the narrator would love it in MORTON GROVE ILLINOIS....there all firearms were made illegal, I believe that is still the case,,,,and believe it or not....YES the crime rate soared shortly thereafter. Imagine that. When did the United States of America become so pussy whipped and left wing gun hating? It is sad indeed. Protect yourself everyone, and when a guy like this is your neighbor, turn over in bed and let him get hacked to death or whatever, and have a beer.

  • Those guns are probably illegal, the handlers don't have permits. Are there any videos of properly educated gun handlers who have permits doing this type of thing? No I have yet to see one. Its funny how most people fled after the guns were pulled, what happened before they were pulled? EVERYONE was fighting. PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE INTIMIDATION A FIREARM CAN HAVE ON PEOPLE, IT IS ALSO A PREFECT EXAMPLE OF MISUSE OF A FIREARM AND UNRESPONSIBLE FIREARM CARRIER.

  • i remmember them days when people carried chains and knives. now it is guns. good luck.

  • How many of those people are CCW holders? Did they get any training on using a firearm? Im Assuming none of them are! just like your assuming that people caring guns doesn't bring crime down. Do your homework and you'll see that it is a proven fact that areas with rights to bar arms have less crime. If you and/ or your family happen to be caught in a crazy situation like what happen in Arizona a few months ago, you would pray to god that someone there was a CCW and could possibly protect you fr

  • @ cjhyde78 yo watch ya mouth real talk the n word is not a vocabulary in ya fucken dictionary just bcuz u see blacks shooting dnt mean u gotta judge them by the color of there skin lets see you be brave enough to step up to a black man in a gun fight an call the N word???

  • you have a right you your opinion and I think you are an idiot and mis guided.

  • All that shows is we DON'T need gun control we need nigger control.

  • how in the hell does this channel have so many followers? this dude is fucking retarded

  • you gotta love the guy shooting a PISTOL from PRONE position. That is totally epic!

  • A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    don't ppl understand that this means that a malitia, an official malitia is allowed to have guns, no one else.

  • @TheIronweasle "the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms."

    PEOPLE NOT MILITTIA

  • @TheIronweasle The right of the miltia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed? Where did you read that? Or is that merely a wish on your part? Remember, just because you wish something doesn't mean it's true.

  • @FaganRoberts Dude, that's in the consititution. And if you read the rest of my post you would know I'm for gun control.

  • @TheIronweasle I know you are for gun owner control. But you need to actually READ the wording of the 2nd Amendment. The "right of the militia to keep and bear arms," is not in the Amendment. Read carefully before you support forced civilian disarmament because there is no Constitutional warrant nor recent Supreme Court decision for this, dude. Now.... go read and no wishing upon a star! Kapeesh?

  • LOL they scatter when those shots start flying

  • This guys a moron.

    ONE incident has NOTHING TO DO WITH TENS OF THOUSANDS of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS carrying concealed !

  • LOL...What a bunch of losers...Good for nothing pieces of shit taking up space in this world.

  • This message to the commentator: What would be your answer to this problem? Although the video doesn't identify who's who, it appears to me that a group of thugs got in a gun fight and luckily, or at least from the video, it appears no innocents were injured. I understand both sides of this issue but I also understand criminal human nature, since I've been in LE for 32+ years and criminals, especially career criminals don't care about "gun free" zones. In fact, they prefer them "easy victims"!

  • Your an idiot. The laws apply to law abiding citizens NOT hood fucking rats with rap sheets. Go play in the middle of the highway and do us all a favor. I'll guarantee those fucks didnt have permits or obtain those firearms legally.

  • @MrCupcake357 go fuk yourself

  • @MrCupcake357 i agree with u 100%

  • @MrCupcake357 It can easily be interpreted that they were not responsible gun carries and probably don't have permits by watching the video at about 3:44. Those guys are already out of life threating conditions but yet the guy says "he got a gun?" " i got mine" and runs back in. I agree with your comment

  • @MrCupcake357 well how do u know?

  • @MrCupcake357 Thats not the point they could just steal them or buy them from someone in texas lol

  • @MrCupcake357 really no one should have a gun why have something that can someone life away so fast they cant stop it

  • @MrCupcake357 If you make the guns harder to get, the "hood rats" will have less of them. Virtually no one has a gun in Canada except permit-holders... especially pistols or exceedingly dangerous automatics because they're almost impossible to find, even for someone who'd want one.

  • @MrCupcake357

    Right. Because legal gun owners NEVER get drunk and want to shoot someone, oh wait, that's retarded, because it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME! Jesus titty fucking christ, you're dumb. I know a few legal gun owners who've gone to prison for shooting someone. All of them intoxicated when they did it. I've yet to meet 1 who ever actually needed their gun. I'm not against gun ownership, I own a few myself, but you don't need to bring the fucking thing to the bar.

  • @Mattm1986 amen to that brother

  • IMO someone should start a business where people can have shootouts like this in an enclosed environment with their guns. that way all the violence-loving jackasses will swarm in and live their fantasy of being an action movie hero/ FPS video game character. they'd kill each other off while someone makes money off of it.

  • if it's not right then why isn't it like that in all of the other states

  • all that shooting and no one even get hurt.lols

  • it's the ones that don't take a course to get CHG licenses and learn to avoid gun fights at all cost that are making it worse for the ones that Do take a course and get registered to carry one. criminals Will have guns rather they are legal or not, that is why they are criminals jackass

  • I bet they still would not have hit anything even if they had full auto.

  • i wish i was ther n had my gun!!

  • The thing is...how many of those people with guns actually have their CCW (or legally bought the gun in the first place)? I would assume NEARLY none of them or none at all...I'd like you to find that out!

  • That looked FUCKING BADASS! Especially the guy who fires first, when he ducks and shoots from underneath the table, that was fucking sick!

    Big respect from the UK.

  • man TYT are fucking idiots!! i really don't know how anybody can take these ppl seriously.

    this dumbass should instead youtube "No Guns for Jews" and then see what happens when the governemnt's the only one with guns.

    douchebag!

    and the gangbangers CERTAINLY didn't own those guns legally. that would be stupid and an invitation to having it traced back to you.

  • guns in bars, yeah, smart idea......jack ass

  • Just don't let blacks have guns.Problem solved!

  • wish this guy in the suit was at that bar when that went down, he would probably be thinking differently and would go and get his concealed weapons permit ASAP

  • do you notice that they're all black ... lol. Fucking R tards. And how did no one get hurt, they must really suck at shooting

  • why do you look like a bass fish of mabe a oscar

  • Studies show that more guns = less violence/crime across the board. Of course, "more guns" pertains to legal guns in the hands of responsible owners, not idiot criminals like these. Areas with high gun ownership have less crime than those with less.

    Criminals will have guns whether we like it or not, and to sweep that fact under the rug is a disservice to society. I carry a gun every day for this exact reason. I've seen what people are capable of, and I refuse to be a victim.

  • Cenk, these are CRIMINALS. The gun rights movement does NOT pertain to these types of individuals. These are the people that we need to protect ourselves from. Criminals like this will have their guns whether we like it or not. So what's stopping them from shooting us law abiding citizens if they so desire? A gun in the hands of the responsible law abiding citizen. I carry because I refuse to leave my safety and well being in the hands of armed thugs just so a bunch of liberals can feel "safe"

  • @cauberallies which studies because here in the uk we have no guns and lower gun crime (by about an order of magnitude.

  • Meanwhile....where are the cops? Arent they supposed to be able to protect us? Oh yea....

  • So drugs started this but its and then guns just started shooting. What about the idiots with the drugs and the idiots with the guns?

  • And there are still people who don't believe that we evolved from apes

    ...

  • @Xigano1 we didn't.

  • guns are a tool, and so is murder, all can be used in a proper way, only thing that is wrong is the way you use the tool, if someone killed a guy with a chainsaw then that makes the person bad, theres nothing wrong with chainsaws

    people which prove themselves responsible, mature, adult like, and good should always be allowed to have guns

    ofcourse this video is full of bottom level humans who should have left the scene and called the cops which would be the responsible choice

  • i carry a large hunting knife in my glove box, its illegal to do so, but cops are the cleanup crew, their not there usually to prevent violence, so i break the law because it is right to do so, if anyone tries to harm me or take my property i will chop them and thats a fact, that is probably also illegal, but it is my basic right as a human to defend myself, my property, and family

  • btw, i live in canada and we have no guns and there is lots of peace, excluding the blacks which naturally gravitate towards crime

  • @chizzy555 According to one recent report, Canada has double the overall violent crime rate per capita as the United States. Canada also has rougly 30 guns per 100 citizens. (not 30 gun owners.. 30 guns - src:wikipedia) The US has 90 guns per 100 citizens. The UK has over 4 times the violent crime rate as the US, and around 5 guns per 100 citizens. Of course, statistics don't really mean much, honestly, there are waaay too many factors. Google "UK most violent" for the stats I am citing.

  • @pfarabee 30 guns per 100 people sounds like bull to me, those stats seem incredibly off, i live in toronto which is one of the more violent areas of canada and i rarely meet anyone that has a gun other than to use for hunting purposes

    and most violence in canada, or anywhere else in the world for that matter is inevitably the blacks mostly and im white, so ya that stat seems off

  • selling weed should never result in gunfights and death, thats retarded, i have a feeling tho that thoe bunch of clowns shooting and killing eachother is for the best

  • really.....you're going to use one incident to say gun bans are good? why don't you do reports on all the home invasions that people where killed because they didn't have guns....and how about a report on all the times guns have saved people.....if you're going to be reporter report all the news and sides if not you're just a hack spewing your own opinions

  • thats was soooooooo gangsta

  • i would bet, none of these people are carrying legaly, this just is more the reason legal carrying cicilians should carry guns against drunk criminals

  • alcohol and thugs and drugs and guns dont mix.. anyone with a gun in that place belongs in prison..

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  • theres a chrysler 300 in the parking lot.. that means theres ghetto around.. a clue to avoid those places and those people

  • This is why negroes get owned at call of duty.

  • A couple chimps with their hands on some human technology. I was in this situation once where I was at a negro bar and some guy started shooting the place up. I was unarmed so I had to sneak out, never be unarmed in large gatherings of negroes because a chimp out is bound to happen.

  • ____Outlaw firearms? WHY DON'T YOU TRY AND OUTLAW ALCOHOL WHILE YOU'RE AT IT! Oops, I think America TRIED THAT ALREADY. It went over really well too: gangsters runnin' moonshine, the rise of organized crime, oh yeah. Why is it that The Young Turks would be all for legalizing marijuana but NOT the legal owernership of firearms. All hail the almighty double standard! Hell, I say we let everybody own a firearm and all the narcotics they want. Live free, America!

  • this dude is gay queeerrrr aint nun wrong with it

  • The only problem there was is that non of them could hit the target. I have my carry permit and carry it everywhere i dont drink so the bar thing doesnt bother me. but if i ever have to pull my weapon for defense you will only here or see 3 shots 2 in the chest 1 in the head. but let me make myself clear i pray i am never in that situation.

  • Man, this would be cooler if they had duels, like the wild west.

  • guns are for pussies.

  • @bigfurrymonster1

    He doesnt want to ban guns. He wants to ban guns where alcohol is served.

  • You should stop being discriminatory of law-abiding and reasonable gun owners. Don't get caught up in the contradictory gun grabbing liberal wave. One would think liberal values discouraged inpeding self defense.

  • also, this does not typify an armed concealed permit holder. You would never report the instanced where an armed person has saved his or her life, and you have a strong bias AGAINST firearms in general. Great work otherwise. VIVA LA REVOLUCION.

  • @aeronut19 What are you talking about? Did you watch the video? They all had guns. There must of been 5 or 6 people with guns.

    I'll use your example, If you used your gun to protect yourself and if some mother got killed oh well that is too bad. Don't take my gun away.

    My biggest issue is with concealed hand guns. Buy all the rifles you want. Concealed hand guns are another issue. I want to know if someone is packing. If I am at a bar and I see a person has a gun I am leaving ASAP!

  • @jim6584  Carrying a handgun does not make a permit holder. One needs a permit in Ohio to carry a handgun. I don't know how stringent the requirements are, but I doubt these guys took the time to bother with permits. If handguns were illegal in Ohio, this would still happen. This looks like a gang style shootout to me, and all the legislation in the world will not prevent it.

  • @aeronut19 If the penalty was so sever, say a mandatory 25 years, when you get caught with a handgun without a permit that you would have to think long and hard about carrying. It isn't going to stop some people from carrying illegally but it COULD stop crazy shoot out like what is in the video.

    Also I hate the fact that people can conceal their handguns. If you're gong to carry then wear it on your belt so I can see you're carrying. If I don't want to be in the same area as you I can leave.

  • I guarantee you those stupid thugs aren't conceal carry permit holders. THEY'RE THUGS. Gun control doesn't pertain to them. That's why this incident happened! This is not a self defense scenario.

  • I think you're confusing criminal behavior with the behavior of those who carry legally. Do you really think the clowns in the video were legally permitted to carry concealed weapons? From the video, I'd call that a VERY dubious assumption to say the least. Their appearance, behavior, and gun handling all suggest to me they are simply reckless criminals. I'd be shocked if a single one of them was carrying legally, which begs the question, how will making CC illegal prevent this sort of scene?

  • People who obay the law and have a gun permit would not do this. These were criminals who probaly did not have a permit. In texas you can not carry a gun into a place that gets 51% or more of their profits from the sale of Booz Permit or not. I still think that if your 21 years old and have a permit you should be able to carry you gun on to a college campus, If that was the law the virgina tech shooting would have been stoped quick

  • Ummm, this is nothing new. People walk around with guns on them all the time. Especially in certain places. I know some ppl that always got a gun on them legally.

  • its not about everyone carrying a gun but having the right to carry a gun. If you can get a permit then you should be able to carry it everywhere. What the debate should be that people who want a permit to carry a concealed weapon should A) have a thorough background check and B) should take a gun safety course before receiving a permit.

  • I really doubt that the man selling marijuana and his friends had a concealed carry permit.

  • See what happens, when our young people

    watch to many movies? They hallucinate and

    make these mistakes. We must educate the

    uneducated.

  • i like this bloke he is a gent,,a proper man unlike most of you yank cunts

  • @rodneyjohnwoods Pip pip cheerio.

  • This commentator is a little b!tch who wants every body to be cave men and pound on each other! We invented the gun for a reason.I have a question for you?"How long are we going to let muslim c#nts like you live and hold opinions?Not very long me thinks!

    I cant stand people like you who try and tell us what to think and do.Your the problem in this world not the guns!

  • this pretty much shatters their whole argument.

  • It is the attitudes of the people with guns that make the difference, not the guns themselves. Do cops go around shooting at people in bars because they got into some petty argument or got insulted? No, they don't, and that is because they have a resopnsible attitude concerning guns. Did anyone in that shootout actually have a license to carry a gun? Was it even legal for them to carry guns there? Their violation of the law shows that they didn't have a responsible attitude.

  • Were the individuals with guns carrying them legally? People who go to the trouble of getting the necessary licenses and permits are much less likely to commit crimes with guns.

  • @Snipe4261 Great point. What we have here in this instance is a bunch of drug dealing thugs, not regular citizens with a CCW permit. This is not, as Cenk claims, "The new America." I hate that these gun-control types equate criminals with non-offenders.

  • It is actually illegal to carry a firearm into a bar in Ohio. So, in that scenario, you would have thugs with guns breaking the law, and unarmed citizens obeying the law, standing there to be shot for insulting his meager manhood. You can see from the idiot dancing around outside, holding his pistol like it was his penis, that these are not responsible, intelligent gun owners.

  • yes just arm everyone and you will be much safer

    aah americans

  • @Dreamerx47

    William Levinson explains it very well, I think, in his essay entitled Armed Citizens are Responsible Citizens:

    “Robert A. Heinlein wrote that an armed society is a polite society. The common perception is that armed societies were polite because an act of rudeness might evolve into a duel, as portrayed in Dumas' The Three Musketeers. The real reason, though, is the mindset and psychology that come with responsible weapon ownership.” (cont)

  • Levinson: “The knight's sword was a symbol of his duty to protect weaker members of society and behave chivalrously, e.g. with respect and courtesy to women, elderly people, and so on. The sword was the soul of the Japanese samurai, a constant reminder of the samurai's duty and code of behavior. The sword was a symbol of taking responsibility, not only for one's self, but usually for others.” (cont)

  • Levinson: “The modern American who buys a firearm for self-protection is saying, I recognize that life involves danger, and by owning a weapon I accept my responsibility to protect myself and those who are entitled to my protection-- my wife/husband, children, parents, and perhaps friends and neighbors.”

  • The crux of the matter is this: I own a handgun, and a CCW permit. I practice regularly, am usually armed, and am a very good shot. On the offhand chance you are dining with your loved ones in a quiet restaurant and a crazed madman begins randomly killing patrons, making their way toward you and your family… do you want me there or not? If the answer is no, fair enough, your funeral. If the answer is yes, then what exactly are we arguing about?

  • "On the offhand chance you are dining with your loved ones in a quiet restaurant and a crazed madman begins randomly killing patrons, making their way toward you and your family… do you want me there or not? If the answer is no, fair enough, your funeral. If the answer is yes, then what exactly are we arguing about?"

    then no one shows up you get drunk and shoot youself in the neck

    this seems to be more likely than your crazed gunman scenario

  • @Dreamerx47 I don't forsee me "shooting myself in the neck". I respect the destructiveness of the pistol, and am a responsible gun handler.

    Of course, the possibility of me shooting myself does not bear weight on the question.

    Put yourself on the VA Tech campus, at Fort Hood, in the Luby's cafeteria, in the ranks of the *195* people slaughtered by gunmen in Mumbai. Now answer the question: With YOUR life on the line, do you want a responsible, well-practiced, armed citizen there or not?

  • Believing that the more guns = less gun crime...is overwhelmingly counter-intuitive.

    You can probably thank your education system.

  • Fucking Niggers in that video, nothing more stupid than a black man experiencing a nigger moment, but its Ohio so I'm sure some rednecks were involved too. And before you post saying I shouldn't use such a word like nigger just know I don't mean black people, I mean black trash. Why don't I just say black trash instead? cause nigger sounds better :)

  • while i agree gun control is not a good thing but thats fucking insane to let you bring them to schools and bars i mean for fucks sake, bars seriously? ya good combo guns and alcohol

  • What an idiot just a bunch of fools carrying guns illegally shut up all u gun hatin fags cus when citizens don't have guns guess who will the bad guys yea use ur pepper spray and karate against his .44 magnum u dumbshit

  • you are an ass. law abiding public should be able to carry gun. not a bunch of thugs who don't know the first thing about gun safety.

  • America looks crazy from the outside.

    In the UK we have no guns, and gun crime is, wait for it, 0%.

    We do have a problem with youths and weapons, but I'd rather kids walk around with bats and plastic cups than guns.

  • @AnatolyaTurkiye ,

    Yeah, I much rather be clubbed to death than shot at. You make so much sense. Criminals are criminals because they don't abide by laws. Gun control laws only affect lawful gun owners. And we surely don't care how people overseas think we are. We are Americans, citizens and not serfs. The government responds to us, not the other way around.

  • @Mile66 The reason there are guns allowed is solely to make money.

    The excuse given b the government of 'we have a right to protect ourselves' is just propaganda.

    If you want to defend yourself get self defense lessons / carry around pepper spray instead.

    I dont care what the USA government does.