When the control module on your electric range goes bad

[patricknedz]

this has never happen before to my oven, however it is really aging and getting worn out. the stove caught on fire today under the heating element, its really about time I get a new one

[jermzdee]

Cicuit breaker equals no electricity. Common knowledge of any man.

[25slim82]

I can just see mommy holding her kids behind her

[renton9999]

congrads, you have one idiot father of the year

[chakathewolf]

Wow. I would have bet money that this could not happen. At least not for that long! Cool video.

[MegaRadio90]

What happens when a heating element dies "seriously" people!!

[tickyul]

Uh, circuit breaker to the off position anyone????

[LARDLOGO]

I had to go see this after stick-welding the monkey bars together. This is what it looked like.

[grindstaffjames43]

"i think i turned it off"

[testerz123456]

I was waiting for this thing to EXPLODE. This just happened to me on the stove top. It sparked for a second and then ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and sparks and fire exploded all over the kitchen

[tuxicle]

Did you have a monster electric bill the month this happened?

[Hayeshacker0NE]

watch?v=TOH3ljnIL0g

[OneBlooEye]

If you would have unplugged the oven it would have stopped. It kept going because it is still drawing power. 

[FORDGTFANATIC]

i see the cost of a new oven sizzling its way closer to your wallet

[HWGuyEG]

In before someone emails this to your insurer.

[Dragonsrule89]

"CALL 911!"

"Nooo, its not an emergency honey, it's just slowly disintegrating itself!"

[Zickcermacity]

Not a good idea to stand close to a sparking appliance with another electro-mechanical device(your f#(ing CAMERA), the current could arc into the camera and that's all you wrote, brotha....

[TheChipmunk2008]

Ah, it was red hot (at 4.22) because although the oven was turned off, the fault was shorting 120v down to ground . The control module probably wasn't the cause of it, but a victim. LOL that it took till 6.00 for you to realize the power was still on! At least you found it amusing too :-)

[Pauerpleigh]

@electifiedzombie actually it is a bit more substantial than a toaster element

[Pauerpleigh]

Now all this time it is drawing an incredible amount of power. Circuit supplying it could begin to overheat. At 5:45 into it I hear him mention the fuse box. Sounds like it tripped thermally by itself (eventually). How hot are the wires inside the walls getting during all this? How healthy is it to be breathing whatever it is off gassing? Yeah, keep the breaker box accessible and think to flip it 10 seconds in to the event would be my advice. Other than that it was really pretty!

[Natesmodelrailroad]

Actually, that looks a lot like the insulation on the element rather than the controller. Though, the controller might have something to do with that.

[JSB1983]

@tommmmmmmmx: Well Said, sometimes the kids have more sense.

This will probably be followed up by how harmless in hindsight it is but I have to be stubborn. Anything was possible in this moment.

[VideyoJunkei]

I once replaced a hot water heater element that did the same thing, it was all bent and twisted, and had the arc-mark along most of its length. The odd thing is, it did this while under water, probably electrifying the water!

[studpuppy69]

OMG! What a dolt! IF THE BREAKER WAS OFF, WHY WAS THE LIGHT IN THE OVEN ON? You decide to stick your camera inside the oven, darwin award.

[studpuppy69]

Why didn't you turn the breaker off? I would have been out there like a ghost to flip it off.

[jackhole1990]

Chip the slag and fire her up! :)

[psalad]

Videos like this make me ashamed to be a member of the human race.

'oh look honey the ovens on fire, I know lets get the video camera out and film it and we can all stand around and watch it come on kids get your shell suits on and stand closer.'

This is the reason people die in their houses.

For me priority 1 get the kids out, close the oven door, one person stay in the room with the oven to monitor and raise alarm if fire breaks out the other turns the power OFF.

Luck is a thin fuse

[DouglasP201]

KILL IT WITH FIRE...wait.......never mind.

[ShadowRSonic]

Red hot metal, looks tasty!

[RODALCO2007]

Cool footage , great that you had the camera handy.

Interesting that the element burnt up this way. Normally the inside resistance wire shorts out to the outer casing and causes a hotspot and goes open circuit.

Thanks for posting.

[Nivicoman]

@RODALCO2007 What voltage do ranges use in NZ?

That aside I've seen load bank resistors glow yellow and sputter and spark due to someone using the 208 setting with 415 volts.

[RODALCO2007]

@Nivicoman Normally 1 or 2 phase 230, 240 Volts Phase to Neutral.

There is either 400, 415 Volts at 120° or 480 Volts at 180° between the outer two phases.

[mattyice11]

u shooda shut off the breaker to the oven

[medabrundibar]

It does not to be bad control module, it look more as a short to grounded metal in the heater on the side, where the control module control the power. So the current flow from the other end, trough the short to the ground. That is, why the circuit disconnect switch, disconnecting at least all phases should be on the wall in the reach. And the owner should turn it OFF, whenever the stove is not in use or when something weird happen.

What would have shut it down automatically is called "GFCI"...

[TheChipmunk2008]

@medabrundibar This looks like an older circuit layout, probably a 3 wire connection rather than 4, so the GFCI wouldn't have been usable with it

[medabrundibar]

@TheChipmunk2008: Of corse, the GFCI require corresponding installation layout. My comment was more related to newer installation or larger renovations, where people would dig into the wiring i anyway, but want to save some bucks on something they think is not needed...

[Mosfet510]

AH! Don't you like when appliances have mind of their own!? lol

[ScottieNiven]

What is happening exactly???

[Crpetersena]

@ScottieNiven The heating element in the stove when it gets old or has not been cleaned properly will do this. It starts to ark, and basically consumes itself. Actually saw that happen myself a while ago.

[ScottieNiven]

Our oven at home, the element just explodoed and tripped the power in thee hoouse.

[kklasen]

Here in sweden the stove allways has a own cercuit braker... I would just shut it off. Also here some stoves are on 3-fase, thats 400V. 1-fase = 230V

[i8246i]

Jessica you saved us all!

[markotheterrorist69]

part of the element was red

[Ham549]

1. Your fuse box should not be blocked off that is dangerous.

2. If the fuse did blow then wouldn't the oven light have gone off?

3. It was glowing because meatle conducts heat and the closer the fire got to the end of the coil the less coil was available to desperate the heat that's why it was glowing at the end.

4. Kid was smart call 9-1-1

[shadynebey]

Lol. The wife's all "WTF ARE YOU DOING?!"

[tomahawkseven]

Excellent vid! My grandfather, an electrician, told me about this. I've never seen it till now. He has seen them burn a hole through the bottom of a tea kettle.

[NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000]

It's called fucking thermal run away you fucks. Even if you unplug it, it will continue to go.

[komododragon2007]

get a gas stove always heat evenly and no elements to burn out

[i8246i]

@komododragon2007

Just expensive deadly gas that can build up and suffocate you...or blow up.

Either situation is very unlikely to happen, though.

[trucksoner]

lol this dad doesn't know much about what he's talking about

[trucksoner]

our stove element did this too and also didn't blow the fuse in the stove or the breaker in the panel. our control panel wasn't the problem, the element just wore out and burned a lot faster, before we could turn it off

[FASANORACING]

well chances are your fuse in the the circuit panel and in the stove are not gfci breakers. so for the 50 amp breaker that is probably serving your range to blow it would have to pull 51 amps to pop the breaker ... just to inform you .. i am an electrician apprentice

[trucksoner]

there's a 30 amp edison-base fuse in the range's top area protecting the element, in addition to the two-pole 40 amp in the panel. i am not really that surprised that it didn't blow, i was saying that so that people know that it happens

[trucksoner]

and i'm pretty sure you mean afci breaker, right? cause i think an arc-fault breaker is the one kind that might trip, as it's a series arc of greater than 5 amps happening here it looks like

[FASANORACING]

well the range is grounded , and in this video it looks like the arc is touching the metal of the bottom . so a gfci breaker , once it senses loss of current from the neutral it will trip. but yes you are right an afci breaker would have done the same thing

[Natesmodelrailroad]

By code, you have to have a breaker or fuse.

[xxl606]

Daddy, are we going to die?

[lifeofbean]

Wow you are truly a moron.

95% of the electric stoves/ranges in the US run on 240 volts. Most homes in the US have 240 delivered to them, and it's split between the 2 phases at the panel to make 120. You have 2 wires coming into the home delivering 120, on different phases, when connected properly to an appliance you get 240.

Capacitors don't alter voltage, they just store energy.

[jamesoncalebbrandon]

use a fire extinguisher

[bassboy923]

maytag, typical, my famlies wasn't "self clean",but it still almost burnt the house down, my mom put a pizza box in the oven(dumb idea alltogether) and when we where gone, the damn thing turned itsself on HI BROIL and broiled the piss out of the box...

the house filled with smoke

we replcced it with a GE

[usmcgrosso]

i dont think the break was tripped cause the oven light is still on.might b wrong though

[cpufightclub]

jeremy, you don't strike me as a particuarly savy person; more of a family man. So, in the event this happens again, I am going to give you a tip : turn the breaker off and get a fire extinguisher.

[magusisgee]

Everyone in your family has a name starting with J :)

[ninjamonkeymonster]

lol all the little kids are funny

[Weegie247]

LOl "i should put this on myspace" xD

Btw thats a good way to wreck your camera, the white light from the element is going to have potentially fry the Image Sensor in places

Anyways you should have really shut if off at the fuse/breaker box.

Harmful fumes etc.

[aurora990]

there you go, just shutting off the main power or breaker for the electric oven will stop the arc welding effect of the heating coil.

[Crpetersena]

1) No he couldn't have just unplugged the thing, you have to move the stove forward to get to it, and I don't know about you but I am intimidated by 220 line plugs..

2) shutting off the breaker for "STOVE" , "RANGE" is a great idea, if there is a real fire, and you don't have time to mess with it , trip the "MAIN" and that will kill all power coming in.

3) GFI (Ground fault interrupt) are for smaller appliances , I have never heard of them being used on a stove.

[medabrundibar]

@Crpetersena: GFCI's are available in different forms, including those with high load current capabilities...

Here (CZ) is their use required by the code for all socket circuits, what are quite high load branches (stove+oven combo ask for ~25A breaker, while sockets with 15A/branch mean together 30A for even small condo).

And most frequently this is "solved" by one common GFCI on the main power input to the dwelling unit (as it is the cheapest way), what ask for high contact current unit anyway.

[Crpetersena]

@medabrundibar Cool, I'm glad I worded it like that 'I have never heard of' suggesting that it could well be possible, I just have not heard of it being used in that context with a stove..

[Crpetersena]

@Crpetersena Cool, I'm glad I worded it like that 'I have never heard of' suggesting that it could well be possible, I just have not heard of it being used in that context with a stove..

[illuminator444]

@Crpetersena Gotta agree with you pulling out a 220 plug WHILE ITS LIVE seems really stupid. Its energized at god knows how many amps, but lets pull it out...

Id be somewhat concerned that there is a risk of it burning its way through the oven...

Gotta agree the best course of action is to hit a circuit breaker. And no, they dont sell GFCI outlets at 220 with enough surge current for ovens. Do you have any idea what kind of arc youd draw trying to disconnect that thing...

[illuminator444]

@Crpetersena Gotta agree with you pulling out a 220 plug WHILE ITS LIVE seems really stupid. Its energized at god knows how many amps, but lets pull it out...

Id be somewhat concerned that there is a risk of it burning its way through the oven...

Gotta agree the best course of action is to hit a circuit breaker.

[Crpetersena]

@illuminator444 Just happened to an oven where I am living, thing lit up pretty good... Replacing the coil or heating element was not that big of a deal , was working again in a few days... Never trust that the power is off one time I was swapping out a moter in a dryer and father in law told me the 220 was unplugged , I was putting the dash board connections back in -Slip sleeves and POW! Big old blue flash , and me yelling SHIT! at the top of my lungs.. -Went down and yanked the 220 cable out.

[swarbricke]

don't wanna move the stove? FLIP THE DAMN BREAKER MORON!

[triton115]

A short in the control module?! That would really frighten the daylights out of me, and I do not think I could fix a shorted control module.

[triton115]

If that were my oven burning like that, by the way, I probably would have pooped my pants!

[triton115]

Couldn't he have simply unplugged the stove?

[kodiak410a]

Yes everyone, let's stand there and arc-flash our eyes.

[codemsan]

heating elements have a metal outer shell, ceramic filler, then a resistive material that connects to power, the ceramic insulation/heat distributer failed and it started arcing to the outer casing causing a carbon arc trail which sustained the arc then it just ate away at the outer casing... and obviously burnt out the thermostat due to excessive current draw from the arc going to ground, hence the coil still being hot to the left in the film

[codemsan]

and i forgot to mention that your breakers must not be attached to each-other for 220V use, because it just threw the one side that the arc was lurching towards hence the reason the light was on, unless it burnt out the contacts in the thermostat.

[italianeyelashes]

How'd your eyes feel after looking at that?

[ethen24]

It's like a reaaaaally long fuse...lol...Watching an oven burn itself up, entertainment for the whole family!

[jeremyareyou]

Thanks for all your smart ass comments I never laughed so hard, keep 'em coming!

LMFAO

[trucksoner]

you actually should have flipped the breaker, even though a stove's wiring is meant to handle a lot of current, it's not a great idea

[jd1048]

how can it have blown the breaker if the light is still on! LOL

[computersmasher]

time for a new stove

[kodiak410a]

Incidentally, if it was unplugged, how did we power the oven light? Magic??

[kodiak410a]

The module is not the problem. The element cracked at some point and if you had any brains, you would turn off the breaker, or at least shut the door. Next thing you know, someone will get burned, and they will sue the oven manufacturer.

[hyvahyva]

Congratulations! You've got PLASMA!

This has, on occasion, happened on the third rail for Miami's Metrorail system, with many more amps of 800 volt DC current. The fault causes a thick iron rail to melt down and pour to the ground and guideway below as a waterfall of molten iron!

It looks to me like the high temp silicone insulation around the resistive wire in the element somehow shorted to the metal tubing surrounding it (grounded).

Strickland Propane, Taste the Meat, not the Heat!

[Macuser7800]

I would of turned off the fuse.

[Pnutlmclain]

me 2

[Remi762]

our maytag oven turned its self on high broil!!!!!!

[BACKFIREFUR]

UN-plug the fucking thing. How stupid are you. This is something a red-neck does.

Honey get the camra. The oven makeing cool sparks. DEE-DEE-DEEEEEEEEE.

[rgsgww]

You should have ran out to the breaker box (or fuse panel) and disconnected that....unless somebody just tapped into those legs

its burning but the "fuel" is 120/208/240 v

[hellsmaw84]

lol your an idiot for not unplugging it, that would of stopped it :)

[dwarfer777]

it was unplugged

[hellsmaw84]

then thats screwed up

[itscool1968]

not all of the power was off the oven light is still on so you had 120 going to it when you kill a ranges power all power should go off that means all lights on the stove.

[figamarsa]

Non esistono da voi gli interruttori differenziali?

[pilopiloCH]

hmm..

e che sarebbero?

[figamarsa]

Che sarebbero cosa? GLi interruttori differenziali? Sono quelli che volgarmente chiamano "salvavita": se c'è una dispersione (o scarica in questo caso) di corrente a terra (la carcassa del forno) interrompono la corrente. Ovviamente in america non li usano. Ecco perchè ci sono spesso corto-circuiti

[MrMatteNWk]

That happened at my house during a Super Bowl many moons ago. I thought it was pretty neat at the time. :)

[denelson83]

Whoa... It's like a pyrotechnic fuse.

[i8246i]

and when gas ovens malfunction, what happens?

hmm, i dont know, maybe little butterflies fly out and fart rainbows!

NO YOU IDIOT, YOUR HOUSE BLOWS UP

Electric stoves will continue to be safer than gas.

[whotube997]

It looks kinda like the same voltage was being applied to a smaller and smaller portion of the element, making it get hotter and hotter. I would have to disagree with the comment about this not being an emergency.  Especially if you're not sure whether there's junk piled up in front of the breaker box!!

[BarneySaysHi]

Nice kids you have... are they always like that?

[skullbones14086]

Have you ever heard of unplugging it? Usually when something malfunctions, we unplug it. Perhaps next time something like this happens, you now know what to do.

[omgwtfbbqstfu]

? ovens are 240v i think, even in the us theres a 240v appliance circuit.

[rhblakeman]

Yep they are 208/220 using both hots from the meter. Usually a 40 or 50 amp breaker clearly marked RANGE. Just kick it off and no power. If the element still burns it means the coating and/or internal conductor are burning. McGee I have no idea what you are talking about with capacitors. Thunderbolt electric is way safer than gas especially if your wiring is up to date/code. Right now in most places electric appliances are more economical especially if your power comes from hydro or nuclear.

[gavincurtis]

Internal heating wire is arcing through the insulation to the outside casing which is grounded. If the stove was not grounded properly, then no arcing would occur. But there would be a lethal voltage on the stove chassis. Circuit breaker would never trip either.

This video shows how important it was that this appliance was grounded correctly! :)

[LARDLOGO]

This happened to one of our burners

[tels2006]

I bet they'd watch their sofa burn, in front of them too!

[BACKFIREFUR]

Thats funnet but true.

DAD LOOK> The couch is of fire get the camra.

[mysterymeatgrinder]

This is actually a fairly common occurance when oven element fails. It's probably just coincidence that the control decided to fail as well.

Happened to our oven efter about 5 years of use. I kind of knew it was going to happen too, since the element had an unusually bright spot on it for about a month until it finally failed much the same way as in the video. Went out and bought a new element for like $20, all good.

[planeguy141]

Cool video, but it is not a very bright idea to stand around and watch it burn. If the circuit breaker doesn't trip, go out and open it yourself!

[YorbaDad]

A similar thing happened to our oven last weekend. This is caused by an internal short in the calrod tube. Ours stopped before I turned the breaker off.

[sirsilentbob]

Wow, I never knew that a heating element could combust like that. Oh and by the way, the breaker did not trip, because the internal oven light was still on! Was that a GE oven? There have been lots of issues with GE microwaves, stove tops and ovens in the past few years having electrical issues, such as microwaves turning on by themselves, continuing to run and produce microwaves AFTER the door has been opened, etc. Did you find out any more info on what actually caused the short to occur?

[LARDLOGO]

You should of named it Death Of The Heating Element!!!

[hdyudu]

you might not want to lock at that drecly

like arc walder torch and super hot metal even

heated by a oxygen inrich gas flame walder torch

heat metal that bright so is the raeis from it os hot it can burn the retna in you eyes

that arc walding the the element form

an elecrical falt.

[hdyudu]

melted it like a arc welder and gas welder use extra oxygen from a cylider to get a gas combustion flame hot as a elecrical arcing.

it bad to say but sounds of the troble to

make me think your oven/stove was a peac

of garbage from the start that got solde to you.