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  • 3:12....inspiration for the movie Mercury Rising perhaps..hmm.

  • SO DID THEY USED TO DO TOURS?

  • imagine the elevator that goes all the way down to the other side of the earth

  • lol santa. thats pretty cool.

  • the place is on giant springs and they've all got rolling chairs? lol

  • I'm pretty sure they had these kinda tunnels in the old James Bond games for nintendo 64

  • @livenlrge i wonder what the requierments are for a janatorial postion at one of these places

  • i wonder what the requierments are for a janatorial postion at one of these places?

  • The mountains will fall on them at just the right time - God

  • I VOTE THE ALIENS FOR PRESIDENTS. THEY KNOW THE SOULUTION TO OUR PROBLEMS. GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND DONT LET ANYONE TELL YOU THEY ARE MEAN!!!! <3<3<3<3<3 ask them for help people, just try...trust me. the more people that are open, faster they will come be with us. SHOW THEM THAT WE WANT TO GROW UP NOW. LET us do this, i assure you you can trust them and they will come, let us just do this now!?!?! ITS TIME. ...they are our brothers and sisters.they know how to take care of a planet too....

  • FreespeechTV an LinkTV are pretty good sources of real information, they only take donations (PBS and NPR take oil and other corporate money, that makes them about as brave as ClearChannel, Fox, NBC....)

    Occupy something.

  • I finish with one word: PROFIT

    Real figures are deliberately obtuse for most: Fewer secrets = Less leaks. Testifying before Congress is easier when you don't know.

    GE, a major money maker in defense and energy wants to make MORE money each year in a growth economy so their stock will rise. GE is a majority owner in media, they don't tell you Taxpayers pay the cost, industry gets profit.

    Gov't agencies are silenced, no gov't agency subsidizing airline travel could speak on cuts to Amtrak.

  • So that is where John Galt is. Who is John Galt?

  • My Dad worked at NORAD as a civilain contractor in the 80s. He hated it. He said it was like going to work in a prison.

  • Everyone is welcome to my DUMB... byob, just sayin.

  • @gimmethedetails lol i drink guiness!!

  • Lol this whole notion of D.U.M.B.S is retarded....Imagine the world went into a nuclear war and someone stayed underground for 20 years given you have the supplys. Once you step outside WHAT NOW?!?!?! a radioactive uselessly raped planet capable of NO life surviving on it....

  • @teewilson333

    Chernobyl is a nature park now, lots of life there dude, even a garden that produces safe food.

  • @marmaladekamikaze The official story is that Chernobyl is "Safe".

    You have an entire defense industry that accounts for Trillions of dollars in spending (with a LOT of profit). Did you know a "Smart Bomb" is a dumb bomb with a laser finder and moveable fins to steer it towards the target? It costs $19,000 per bomb (instead of $3000).

    GE makes the "smart components". GE is ALSO co-owner of NBC.

    Social Security currently pays just $17,000 to $23,000 per person per YEAR.

    We're being lied to.

  • @CI9TK

    Who said Chornobyl is ''safe'', I certainly didn't, neither did NBC. A nature park does not a safe park make. The official story is not that Chernobyl is safe, and we know this to be true because the Ukranian government still restricts access to it. Use your head. And by the way, what you described was a 1960s 1st gen smart munition, nowadays even run of the mill JDAMs also include INS & GPS guidance. Your Social Security system is the envy of a lot of other countries. P.S smile!

  • @marmaladekamikaze You said "even a garden that produces safe food" (I AM using my head). Your follow up comment sounded more on target whereas your comment that I responded to sounded like you were saying all was fine.

    My point about 'smart bombs' is the high profit on a few dollars of technology but builder GE, also a major media ownership company, blabs about "Social Security going bankrupt", it's a farce. "Look over there" said the magician, or the pickpocket.

    Nuke Energy is ALSO a scam...

  • @CI9TK ...and Nuke Energy is a scam because Nuclear Electric Power is generated in countries that want bombs. They are refining uranium for bombs anyway, so they refine lower grade uranium for use in power plants.

    In other words, the TAXPAYER is paying the full cost of the nuclear fuel and we ALSO subsidize and back the Power Plants. Just the PROFIT goes to the Energy companies. Meltdown? Taxpayer pays.

    Most importantly, the amount of Energy to create the fuel is LESS than the energy output.

  • @CI9TK

    You are spouting misinformation, and directing it at yourself for some reason..wtf man? I'll tackle the most glaring lie: you wrote- ''Most importantly, the amount of Energy to create the fuel is LESS than the energy output.''

    This is a convoluted statement. Go look up EROI - energy return on investment and notice that on average the Nuclear power industry produces ~10 times the input energy, or put another way- gets back ten times the input energy.

  • @marmaladekamikaze The most common metal on planet Earth is Aluminum, yet if you recycle a can you save 95% of the energy needed to make that can. Uranium is much less common, you have to mine it transport it, separate it, mill it, refine it, create a gas that you convert to a metal, refine it some more, process it as a fuel rod, transport it, then, THEN you can use it.

    This report you read, is it from GE? They make the Mark I (the reactors that melted in Japan) and reported those were "safe".

  • 3. We reprocess Turkmenistan missiles from the Cold War. ALL warheads decay/are replaced over time.

    4. The new fuel cost is SPLIT with the military.

    The defense INDUSTRY (a money maker) and the Energy INDUSTRY (Reagan changed them from Utilities to profit/market based orgs so Enron created a one year energy "shortage" in CA between normal years) use each other: Hate nukes? "We also use it for peaceful energy".  Not-so-Clean Energy? "We need it to defend freedom".

    Search Dr. Helen Caldicott

  • @marmaladekamikaze The "I" of EROI is "Investment":

    1. Even the Nuke industry admits this is a difficult #. They don't count the cost of the power plants, for instance.

    2. Nuke warheads were EVERYWHERE, FB-111 bombers, Nike interceptors, strategic nukes... Two things changed that: Yield (nukes are more powerful now) and Missile Accuracy. Decommissioned warheads converted to Fuel make it cheaper than normal (so they use THAT figure). Note: Reprocessing SPENT fuel is Very expensive.

  • @CI9TK

    I am afraid you are confused,

    1st. Nuclear weapons have generally lower yields than they had in the 1960s. So frankly, you are wrong- 'nukes' are not more powerful now. in comparison to the era of the FB-111 (A bomber equiped with B61 bombs, which have the same yield today as the 1960s.

    2.Reprocessing isn't all that expense and the cost of reprocessing is included in the price of Nuclear energy, look at France. The 'Megatons to megawatts' scheme makes the world safer,i.e weapons

  • @marmaladekamikaze Your mail dealt with different subjects than here so;

    #1 OK: A. I used Yield/Weight ratio (that's important) B. For example, a Trident has 8 warheads Per missile.

    #2, Yes, France reprocesses spent Nuke fuel from their own + other countries. Other countries are far too happy to give it to them so they PAY (Income from other countries lowers cost) fees (but don't take the waste). France bet BIG on Nukes, has a surplus and sells to Germany, who is converting to Green power.

  • @CI9TK

    1. You are incorrect again. Yield to weight ratios in modern nuclear weapons is lower than their counterparts in the 1960s. The B41 has the highest yield to weight ratio of any weapon ever developed. The B41 was developed in the 1960s and is no longer in service. LOOK IT UP.

    2. Why does France sell electricity(derived from nuclear power) to Germany, if as you suggest, Wind energy is cheaper than nuclear energy? The reason is- Nuclear energy is cheaper & more reliable.

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  • @marmaladekamikaze I gave 3 examples from the 60's:  The FB-111 Bomber B61 warhead, the Nike Interceptor W-7 and battle strategic nukes. You're correct on the B41.

    My point is still: Reprocessing all these old warheads ARTIFICIALLY reduces the Nuke fuel cost - It's paid under the military, not the energy budget (but, still the taxpayer).

    Nuke energy is HEAVILY subsidized. Green Energy should be as fortunate, it's paid for sooner and has a cheaper/longer life.

    Do you WANT greed before planet?

  • @CI9TK

    Greed before planet, you mean like solyndra the solar power company subsidized by half a billion dollars? The 'green' sector is heavily subsidized, don't lie to your self. Go try and support your speculation with unbiased evidence please.

  • @marmaladekamikaze Solyndra was approved for a $535 Million LOAN from the Energy Dept. Nuclear Power (alone) received $700 Million in GRANTS (not loans) from the Energy Dept. in '99 - the last year audited by earthtrak. net

    I wish you angry Fox News watchers would check the facts you're fed, they lie to you, search: 'Only one article noted that before Obama took office and before his stimulus law existed, the Bush administration chose Solyndra “as one of 16 finalists” for a loan guarantee.'

  • @CI9TK

    I don't watch Fox News,I live in Ireland man. Futhermore we weren't discussing Obama's or Bush's energy policy we were discussing the bad investment of Solar power, versus the tried and true nature of Nuclear power.Nuclear power provided 20% of all the electricity in the US in 1999. Solar power provided 0%.I don't know what data you are looking at but $700 mil in grants for 20% of the nations power sounds like a good deal, especially when part of that went to radiopharmaceuticals.

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  • @marmaladekamikaze Oh yeah and if you read the Sun or other Rupert Murdoch controlled newspaper, television or radio (he owns a lot of publicly viewed, read or listened to media, and he doesn't believe in anything but MORE money for himself and his friends), you likely are influenced by the same ideology as if you were watching FoxNews here in the USA.

    They want you to hate welfare for the poor - they don't want you to even THINK about welfare for corporations.

  • @CI9TK

    Rupert Murdoch is an Englishman, the Sun is an english paper, I'm an Irishman & thus I read the Irish Examiner. But why are we even talking about Rupert Murdoch? We were discussing Nuclear power. As far as I'm aware most Irish people are opposed to Nuclear power, I was too before I read more about it. Nuclear & wind power are dangerous, but less so than Coal power! & Coal produces more radioactive waste than Nuclear power. P.S - I am in receipt of student welfare, I don't hate it.

  • @marmaladekamikaze Murdoch is AUSTRALIAN and he very likely owns whatever news you have access to in Ireland. Murdoch is a scumbag with money so he has the ability to affect the opinion of millions of people around the world.

    We agree that Fossil fuels are bad. Nuclear power ALWAYS "forgets" to add the cost of fuel to the equation (and why should they? THEY don't pay the real cost, taxpayer's pay).

    See, they just get the profit without the risk.

    Renewable's are LESS profitable so they hate them.

  • @marmaladekamikaze Nuclear power is probably the most intense and energy consuming resource. Do have any idea how much energy goes in to building a Nuclear power plant? Its all about the amount of energy we get to the amount we invest. There is really no real answer to our energy crisis, it an extremely complex situation.

  • @CI9TK

    If Nuclear energy is a scam, as you suggest, then what powers the lights in France? Fairy dust? & what is your explanation for how the Sun is powered, for that matter? Furthermore, it's great that you quoted me, Safe food does not mean that to LIVE in the exclusion zone would be safe undertaking. Much like if I said -Afghanistan produces safe food, however to LIVE in Afghanistan wouldn't be all that safe, now would it?I'm not going to discuss GE, as I don't know a thing about them

  • @marmaladekamikaze Hey, you can't make this stuff up. Profit man, think about profit and then you will understand.

    See, if I sold you a Solar panel and it was the good kind you could power your home most days (the good ones on R/V's work under the lights, at night, at Walmart parking lots - not kidding). LED lights and efficient appliances? Sure! But you would STOP buying power from me, wouldn't you? We live in a GROWTH economy, make more money than last year, stock goes up.

    I worked at GE.

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  • killer beat dude

  • Wait, what? What does NORAD and Santa Claus have to do with DUMBS and the end of the world? Did I miss something?

  • @usernamen0tfound why do Nuclear bunkers need PT boats?

  • poptart

  • @jagg1951 yeah you're totally right man, i get interrupted from my work day at least twice a week and taken to Guantanamo Bay to be tortured... hate when that shit happens.

  • @jjready4ya - The point is not weather or not its happened to you, the point is that it can now legally happen to you and there would be nothing you can do about it. Your rights have been taken away. Men fought hard and died to bring you the freedom you had and idiots like you are throwing it away. when asked what type of government the Constitution was bringing into existence Benjamin Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.” It would seem we don't have what it takes to keep it.

  • Just about every country in the world,,,,has created this type of system,,,,,it's not the first time by any account.

    In fact, Ghaddafi had a huge one, just discovered under his compound in Libya,,,,which is how they believed he escaped. Truly, there's been bunkers and underground systems All throughout history. Let's all just chill about it,,,,Kennedy had one,,,now they just use a bunch of technology,,,,,,,that's it.

  • so some one snuck in their phone and was taking pictures .

  • we can never know for sure, wether any of this exists or not and whos in charge, for what reason... only speculate...until the facts are presented, in plain honesty, for benefit of all the people, we'll never know/never meant to know, we just have to get on with our own lives! But interesting nonetheless!! be good to know what goes on there!

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  • good vid....awsome music..who's it by and whats it called please??

  • The russians must have an equafilent like NORAD...anybody knows where it is?

  • think the ending should have been left out imo, that was a kinda nice thing they did for the children

    BUT its still a sick our tax goes to protect fucken fat cats

  • I didnt see a single pictuere of the stargate! I want my money back! Kidding...seriously, I saw the video on the DUMB's and what I saw were alot of pictures of public works projects in Europe and the states regarding transportation and water/sewage handling as well as numerous pictures of salt mines. Salt mines are impressive structures that stretch for miles and miles under ground and the government has considered thier use in a nuclear conflict.

  • i'm still waiting on Y2K. what ever happened to it lol some lame ass people on this site.

  • This is all Cold War shit. Of course they build giant springs to withstand nuclear blasts. The Russians were itching to drop a nuke on em'.

  • Oh my God, do you people that believe this shit have jobs? I just can't believe what a waste of time this shit is. I called my mom last night and she said "Obama is building underground bunkers for him and his elitist friends" LOL, then I see pictures of NORAD... what the fuck is the point of all this? Who gives a shit anyway? Do you really think people are going to start a revolution over 60 year old military installations? Who fucking cares dude?

  • @johntetzel You're gonna die and we're gonna stay alive. I mean we all will die one day but we don't want it to be because of what other people wanted for us. God Bless You.

  • PEOPLE! This facility in particular was not built with such evil in mind.. HOWEVER, newer ones have been built continuously built since then! And for quite possibly the most fucked up thing to happen in American history.

    Do a google search for Secret Military Bases, you won't find any video on youtube, that's for sure. The technology is so advanced video cameras can't even record it. No shit..

  • Some one grab me a fucking application when your there.........oh wait we are poor innocent people we dont fit in. Thats ok i'm stronger then these people could ever be my will and anger makes me keep going. One day in my shoes and they would kill there self!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the lil tin foil hat crew who can be shown a nuclear bunker and believe its for the "Ultimate solution" where all the rich n famous will totter in a nice queue and live underground whilest we scavange and battle on the service, stop playing fallout

  • It cost trillions over the decades to build all these places, that I cannot lead you too, but are probably there. It's a lot of money to pay to get rid of the Elitist Pigs, but hey, once those megalomaniac twisted fear freaks are safely put in their DUMB's, then we can have our world back, or what's left of it.

    A Cave is a Grave, you pathetic little freaks.

    HAhaahaahaahhahaha

  • fallout 3 :D

  • It's probably called D.U.M.B because it's a mockery at the people for being incredibly

    stupid for giving them the time to let them even build this gigantic base. Which only

    the biggest money makers will inhabit.

  • Yeah, funny! But what exactly did you do to Phil Shneider and why? You guys are full of shit!

  • @thegreatauk01 They killed him.

  • Makes sense. Americas industry is in such poor shape theyre trying to tap into the worlds most industrious man, santa claus.

    Santa, please bring lots of oil at under a 100usd/barrel. :)

  • @PlayaDontHate24

    Well you don't want santa and his sled being knocked out of the sky by experimental avialtion aka UFO's do you?\

  • So what are you saying by this video? Who cares that they are building DUMB's because they are part of some NORAD bullshit? The poster of this video is fucking retarded.

  • Great... We have people believing that governments around the world spend trillions of dollars on building underground bases with food and supplies so people can live underground and track a corporate created cartoon of a fat man in a red suit. Genius! -_-

  • @doubledibi Your a Fucking Idiot.

  • So you think that instead of using them as hideaways for the Illminati, the government uses their D.U.M.B.s to track Santa? I call bullshit

  • @trento7o8

    What about the Patrot act and all the laws made to "protect" amercans from terrorism ????? lol

  • I don't want to go down into a hole. If I can't live with my family, being healthy, and happily serving the one God, Yahweh (who sent the Messiah for our salvation) under the blue sky. Then what's the point? If it is a nightmare where they have to live like bugs, frightened, under the earth. C'mon - what kind of life is that.

  • ur either workin for them or ur just stupid, there are loads of dumbs, do ur research dickhead

  • Excellent ! A very interesting fact about Santa's hotline! Thanks for uploading this.

  • 3:04 Hahahaha! At least they have a sense of humour!

  • i wonder what "THEY" spent the missing 3 trillion dollars on, not to mention all the other billions of tax dollars over the years? ive always thought the afghan mountains would be a great place to build safty bunkers.

    planet x/nibiru, 2012, etc. somethings bound to happen. i just hope theirs a fight. i'll be really pissed if i die in a fema camp due to all you pussies ignoring the evidential facts while your family members and friends join the military/police/other enforcement branches.

  • Good pics, never seen some of those. The end was d.u.m.b. I bet they got some all out over the top pimp rooms for those elite bastards who some of those underground facilities are for. They think they are gonna be livin it up, having gay sex, and doin drugs and fucked up rituals while we are up here fighting with eachother and trying to survive a pandemic or nuclear attack. I hope the fucking shit falls in and traps em down there, lil bitches.

  • Ah, why would they put a ship in a command center, may I ask?

  • You want the truth? They launch AIRPLANES and FIGHTERJETS from these underground facilities. My uncle worked on one of these places, and accidentally witnessed an entire F-16 shoot up out of the ground when a sheet of camoed sheetmetal was retracted near his car as they were driving him in.

    Think about it. It makes PERFECT SENSE to build underground bases to launch aircraft from. If a nuke gets launched, we can retaliate with A LOT of military power using these underground facilities.

  • who really cares we all gunna die 1 day

  • @billtheman100 I tihnk they builded them for more then just an earthquake.

  • Norad tracks Satan more like

  • if this is what has been leaked imagine what they really have!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • this is brilliant.saw it on war games.why dont people make their own underground bases.that would be cooler.do you really think they spen 200,000 on a hammer,a toilet seat.

  • When sun blow all electric stuff they will never open this electric door :D and they will eat themself under ground.

  • God's rath will not protect these scumbag...s they will be eating eachothers flesh and wish they were above ground...these Godless freaks will find religon real fast...

  • Lovely. Have the little children call Molech the Owl to find the coordinates of Santa. That's so special. (Norad shield at 3:45)

    "god of the Ammonites and Phoenicians to whom parents sacrificed their children. 3: any LIZARD of the genus Moloch"

    Moloch \Mo"loch\, prop. n. [Heb. molek king.] Dictionary. net

  • @ChaosButterfly8

    Molech was one of many deities worshipped by the Pheonicians. Child sacrifice was prevalent all throughout the world in early times, look at the Maya! I'm sure people as paranoid and skeptical of ancient cultures bring so much to the gene pool.

  • are we going in them

  • @elgatitomalo1976 I somehow think theres only room for certain Elite down there

  • That last bit about santa was random. Anyways isn't it the same basic principle with D.U.M.B.S. or NORAD. The nukes go off, our government hides, and were left out with no place to go.

  • heh, those doors look easy to blow up, 25ton doors can still break. with a crap load of dynamite. i say 10 boxes would crack the surroundings of the door.

  • NWO

  • @CleanFun1x

    These are underground cities for the ELITE to survive..NOT US. You need research.

    Whether called NORAD, DUMBs or FEMA..it's all the SAME!

  • Reminds me of fallout 3 LOL

  • @htm890 ....thats a bad thing....

  • Makes you wonder/think. YouTube -

    Peter Joseph: "Where are we going?" Nov. 15th '09 [Part 1 of 4]

    Peter Joseph: "Where are we going?" Nov. 15th '09 | 2/2

    The Venus Project Lecture City University of London Pt 01

  • Under every major city's heart plays the shadow of it's subterranean counterpart behind the curtain of everyday reality is an underground world you cannot see as above, so below but only for those "in the know" when push comes to shove for us there will be no love they will go below & we will stay above such is the nature of the iron fist beneath the velvet glove no, there is no plan to save every woman child & man the heartless evil elves will just let us fend for ourselves.
  • deep

  • cool music, what's the title?

  • frak ppl, what would you want?? that our species makes a lottery who goes in them and who stays?? what good will that do in rebuilding the new world??? we need the best and the brightest in them, my only regret is that with those needed individuals goes the ruling elite. they have no place in leading the new world, and the ones above will show it to them very soon

  • VonHelton is exactly right. Wake up. They didnt build these extravagent things for nothing.

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  • @CleanFun1x you realy fucking believe that look at behemian grove all of your polititions are a bunch of devil worshiping satanists

  • @CleanFun1x Firstly this 'Govt' is not the Govt you think it is mate. It is a Corporation pretending to be your Govt. Secondly they are not all human these hybrid 'Elite' intend to survive these catastrophies at all cost becuase they want to rule the Earth.

  • @CleanFun1x This is all part of Satans plan to undermine the human race and rule it. Its the ultimate slap in the face for God who expelled him from Heaven. Satan has many guises and this Govt is one of them. Do not serve this Govt. Passively resist it and we MIGHT excape.

  • @CleanFun1x 'the last bastion of hope for freedom in the entire world', HA HA u americans live in a fucking fantasy world. your lives are so dull u spend most of it dreaming up conspiracies. dream on fantsists. There is a real world out there that is fucking amazing enough.

  • @ibizajoey I suppose it sucks living in a world in which you aren't the center.

  • @ToolWhisperer yeah it sucks, i need to believe that i am personally the centre of the universe. lol

  • @ToolWhisperer Your once great country is tearing itself to peices. Who needs jihadists when you got the intense hatred of the left and right. I believe we are witnessing the death throes of the last 'super power'. Divide and conquer indeed. RIP AMERICA. god help us all

  • @CleanFun1x FU(K the MILITARY & GOVERNMENT..! These places are for them only...as they nuke the HELL OUT OF US. You're an IDIOT so put your head back up your ASS...!!

  • @CleanFun1x

    WTF? Are you serious?

    "This country is the last bastion of hope for freedom in the entire world, especially when these were built (Cold War). How much protection is that worth?"

    Are you really talking about USA that way? can't be serious..

  • @checkeralta Would you rather have wanted to live in Soviet Russia or Communist China in the 50's and 60's? Or more recently Taliban-ruled Afghanistan or Saddam's Iraq. I think not! While USA working as the "world police" is not exactly ideal, the people of USA is much more free than the people of its enemies.

  • @Gameboygenius YES because MONEY IS FREEDOM in our world where its MONEY OVER PEOPLE. Thats why "the people of USA is much more free than the people of its enemies." [Think of the monetery system of our cultures (mostly west) and the wars, made for keeping the system running]. Inform urself, take a look behind the curtain.

  • @checkeralta No. I'm talking about countries very religion and ideology trumps personal freedom. While today's Western world is far from perfect, I hope you're not seriously proposing that USA is less free than any Taliban-ruled country or former Soviet state?

  • @Gameboygenius I don't like religions, because theyre made to control people. but what youre sayin is kind of weird. Bush and blair (i think) said that the wars they made were god's will. so you dont have to look far to see religious fanatics who take freedom from their subjects. im sorry that i cant talk about soviet states becuase of a lack of knowledge to these topics. but didnt the USA support an build up the taliban back in the days where USA and them were "friends" against russia? hmm..

  • @checkeralta I don't like those wars and Bush's talk about God's will. But that doesn't change the fact the people of those nations were far more oppressed than Americans.

    And yes, Bush Sr did help the Taliban back in the day because of the ideological war against communism. Which later enabled al-Qaeda to attack USA at 9/11. The irony is that, at that time in Afghanistan at that time, the old communist rule was less oppressive than the Taliban. Even so, neither one is ultimately desirable.

  • @Gameboygenius Don't get me wrong but if youre believing the Story that the attacks on 9/11were made by al-Qaeda (wich was formed by CIA, check "Tim Osman") i dont know if you think of a false flag attack or not. i sure think 9/11 was setup to have a reason to enter and occupy Afghanistan and later Iraq (next is iran). and to putt bills through which massivly replace freedom by security. (martial law etc.) I cant talk about freedom when the world is in their (nwo guys) hands. (by disinformation)

  • @checkeralta That, I don't believe. I prefer to stick to what is known and provable, rather than circumstantial evidence and conspiracy theories. I'll just throw you this quote:

    "Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence."

  • @Gameboygenius More than one have been sent to the e-chair on "circumstantial evidence"

  • @checkeralta To clarify: I hate oppressive legislation as much as you do, but I just don't buy that it's all a big "NWO" conspiracy.

  • @CleanFun1x

    Freedom??!? LOL

    You call yourself free in a country that is so reminiscent of Nazi Germany "Homeland Security" ? Where you can be picked up on the street for no reason taken to Guantanamo bay and legally tortured without a shred of evidence and no right to a lawyer? What a joke America has become . Land of the free my ass.

  • @jagg1951 since when are people being picked up form the street and being brough back to Guantanamo bay?

  • @Tauruspt2 its leagal for any government agency in the states to arrest and detain you indefinatly without charge ,and without any representation ,since the patriot act came about

  • @jagg1951

    if america is so similar to nazi germany why do state allow to have the permission to comment on youtube and why have 'Homeland Security' not come for you after you have insulted the state

  • @jagg1951 Well said, I agree 100% sir.

  • @jagg1951 You never had freedom. Only priveleges. They decide what happens with you, either you're

    innocent or not. They control everyone, so they don't need to worry about you getting away with something

    they don't like.

  • @Ruttie2

    thanks. that makes me feel a lot better, now what happens when the solar storms shut down our power systems

  • @jagg1951 Then we're all fucked. LOL

  • @Ruttie2

    Unless you have spent decades building places for the continuity of government during such disasters

  • @jagg1951 I meant us. Not the gov.

  • @jagg1951 Name one person that that has happened to? Don't worry I'll wait.

  • @jagg1951

    That's an idiotic generalization. Honestly, you WON'T get picked up off the street and thrown into Guantanamo and tortured. No, America has become too liberal for that. God only knows how long Guantanamo (and torture) will be around for, now.  3 years tops.

  • @AETutorials42

    Regardless of if it is happening, the laws are now in place to allow it to happen.

    And that is what makes it so suspicious that so many laws are being implemented to allow the government to quicly go into a police state or martial law scenario. Are they preparing for, or are they expecting some kind of catostrophic event in the foreseeable future?

  • @jagg1951

    No, it's not happening because there is no proof. I want some solid evidence (that doesn't come from a bullshit conspiracy theorist site, by the way) that people are being plucked off the streets and shipped to Gitmo. A few pictures of some underground (and probably some above ground areas, too, like the plant growing facility) bunkers isn't enough to convince me.

  • @AETutorials42

    People are all cherry pickers. We choose what we want to believe and what we will except as proof.

    You will not believe until the comet is so close you will have no choice. The governments are not going to tell the public what they know, but the governments will plan for their own safety as best they can and they will hide the evidence of their planning as best ther can and they will ridicule any evidence that does slip out. And even plant phony evidence to discredit it easily

  • @jagg1951

    And I bet you also believe that a harmless woman walking the dog down your street is actually a government agent waiting to cart you off to Gitmo. Jesus. You must be the definition of "Paranoia" when people open the dictionary.

  • @AETutorials42

    Apparently the government is also in the business of encouraging its citizens to spy on and "rat out" enemies of the state. So if your next door neighbor is holding a grudge because you did something he didn;t like. Who knows what he might accuse you of and the government will find what they want to find even if it isnt there. "Paranoia strkes deep into your mind it will creep it starts when you're always afraid step out of line the man comes and takes you away....."

  • @jagg1951

    You're referring to a song that was probably written under the heavy influence of marijuana, AND the fact that people were being drafted into the military during that time period. That is not happening now. You are so obsessed with telling people to wake up, maybe you should do a little eye opening of your own and see that the world is not as bad as you think it is. 

  • @AETutorials42

    .The bottom line is all the laws are now in place to fulfill all those conspiracy theories which is why those conspiracy theories are thriving. I mean even the senators are admitting they signed bills which they were never given the time to read what they were signing.

  • @AETutorials42 does the bible count as a reference? or is that "bullshit conspiracy" too? There is evidence all over the place. You wont believe it if you dont allow yourself too. If you are searching for the wrong points in "conspircay theorists" and the knowledge they have to offer, then you will never learn. Open your mind. There are plenty of creditable sources that are spreading this info, not just "conspiracy bullshitters"..i did 8+ yrs in the military and mic, im no conspiracy theorist.

  • @rockchokt

    Oh, and, by the way, 8 years in the military or not, you're still a conspiracy theorist because guess what? All of this IS bullshit. You have a lot of nerve telling ME to open my mind, when yours is as closed a bank vault. Stop believing what these bullshitters tell you, and take a look at the real facts: none of this is happening. What you like to do is fear monger, for the sake of feeling good about yourself. That's why conspiracy theories exist today.

  • @AETutorials42 Im praying for you.

  • @AETutorials42 lol you tell me to look at the facts...I dont think you understand what "facts" are..Ive seen this stuff with my own sober eyes.

  • @rockchokt

    Oh, sure. You've probably seen aliens and flying ponies as well with those *AH-HEM* "sober" eyes. I'm going to go on Yahoo news, see if a mental hospital is missing a patient.

  • @AETutorials42 dude the world is bad. Everywhere. Look at your tv..LUST, drugs, violence, corruption, horror...none of that is good. WAR, starvation, poverty, genocide, corrupt currency, MATERIALISM on every continent...have you seen this world? How many people around the world have running water bro? How many people around the world have electricity? How many people live without shoes under their feet? Now think of all the billionaires with 10 ferrari's, and marble floors..GREED. Asleep.

  • @rockchokt

    First off, I'm not your bro, and wouldn't want to be. Second off, please don't try to tell me that you can ever get rid of drugs, violence, corruption, war, starvation, poverty, genocide, corrupt currency, or materialism. As long as there is man on Earth all of those will exist. Not to mention, those billionaires weren't BORN with 10 Ferrari's and marble floors. They earned it, and it's THEIR choice to donate it and help, whether you like it or not.

  • @AETutorials42 and you're right, as long as man reigns, we wont get rid of the evil..THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. The truth is you do have a Creator, who has a SON, who was sent to rid the evil in you and every other "human" on the planet. The choice is yours. If you want to believe the liars, then thats your choice.

  • @AETutorials42 speaking from experience..you'd be surprised *COUGH* PATRIOT ACT. There is nothing we can say though, for you to put these pieces together is completely and entirely up to you. There is an agenda unfolding, that THEY have been planning for a very long time to take as many of us with them as they can. Dumbs were not built for the cold war and that is almost as laughable as the pyramids being built as tombs with rope and logs, or Eve eating an apple.

  • @rockchokt

    You need some serious help, sir. I advise you lay down, tell yourself that "they" don't exist, calm down, and sleep. If you still hear the voices, see your doctor.

  • @AETutorials42 before you can learn the truth, you need to have the eyes to see and the ears to hear..what does that mean? OPEN YOUR MIND. Btw, most of the "solid evidence" you're looking for "that doesnt come from a bullshit conspiracy site" doesnt exist in your world b/c they own all mainstream media and they have owned it for a very long time and they WILL NOT report truth on any of this. Start putting the pieces together and stop believing what their money-whores are telling you.

  • @jagg1951 This is the end, beautiful friend the end of our elaborate plans the end of everything that stands the END, Ill never look into your eyes again, company Halt present arms..........................

  • @CleanFun1x Maybe not against theire citizens. But your saying that you like that your government are going to hide in bunkers while the bombs are falling while you are sitting in your home without protection? (the government would probably be the cause of such a war anyway).

    They are just selfish, if they did care about theire citizens they would try and build enough of these for the whole countries population, not just the politicians and rich people.