And how many more hundreds of bad substances do real cigs have?? O boo fuckin hoo for anti freeze of one of the couple bad substances found in the E cig!! So lets see would you rather have hundreds of unknow chemicals going into your body with a real cig or just a few going in with a E cig?? Idk about you but id prefer the E cig
Just a bit of fyi, propylene glycol has be extensively tested as the solvent (medium) for use in medication delivery, ie. when you take medication through vaporizers. Ashma, emphasema et al. And no negative side-effects have been found.
what we need to do is ban the sun seeing that it gives out skin cancer. turn it off until we can find a way to stop the cancer from the sun.... (EVERYTHING GIVES U CANCER)
LOL WTF SMH? This is ridiculously retarded on so many levels!!! What could possibly be more harmful than a cigarette? How is the FDA (with a straight face) attempting to ban a product for allegedly being harmful/cancerous when the very product they're comparing it against they have proven cancerous yet approved? It makes absolutely no sense. Nuts & bolts they don't give a shit about smoker's health. They scared b/c ecigs threaten the fat cash flow generated from tobacco taxes & sales revenues.
@tatomuck18 Because the FDA does whats in the governments best interest , last year the US grossed over 3 billion dollars in cigarette tax. The FDA was probably told ban these things anyway way you can.
Propylene Glycol(PG) is not in Anti-Freeze that is a false statement. Diethylene glycol(DEG) is the substance in Anti-Freeze and DEG is used to dry tobacco products. All Vaporizing juice on the market uses PG or Vegetable Glycol (VG). Only one case of liquid was found to have DEG and that came from China (Either way, DEG is in regular cigarettes). The smoke machines at concerts use PG, NOT DEG found in anti-freeze.
it's day 50 for me! and i won't got back to cigs in fact i'm just about done using the E-cigs as well. E- Cigs Rock. I went from two packs a day to none on the very first day! People if you want to make a change in your life this is how to do it. Do it for you' do it for your family!
propylene glycol is sugar! Water is in antifreeze too, are you going to ban water now? FUCKING STUPID ASS US GOVERNMENT. I hope obama takes a bullet in his big fuckin mouth.
@edbean420 Just because Obama is Prez does not make him responsible for every sodding law, rule, or regulation that has ever been passed. Hell, he's a smoker himself. He'd probably benefit from this product and have no objections to it. Why does everything have to be political?
This is a bad pair of questions. A better pair would be:
A) Do people who use an e-cig smoke fewer regular cigs than they would otherwise? Even a little bit?
B) Is using an e-cig less hazardous than using regular cigs? Even a little bit?
If the answer to both of these questions is "YES," then not only should they not be banned, but smokers should be allowed to write the cost of an e-cig off of their taxes.
I'm a non-smoker BTW. These things are a LOT better for non-smokers.
Everyone's touting these e cigarettes as a means of quitting. I believe they are just a replacement habit. Also, it's not the e cig itself that is in question. It's what's in the liquid nicotine that needs to be examined.
Hey, I'd rather out 20 chemicals in my body than 4000. Ciggs are proven to cause cancer and kill you, period! The e-cigg has been around for years in Europe and is not a means of quitting but it can be as you can regulate your nicotine dosage (comes in many different strengths). It is a terrific replacement if you enjoy smoking which I do so FUCK the FDA!
if our government cant control something we just ban it , make it illegal, and then use media to scare people into thinking theyre going to die from things than in the past 5 years hasnt killed a single person but the shit they sell has a body count of into the 100 thousands...so fuck america and fuck the corrupted shitheads who run the world through media and money...
the fda dosnt give a flying fuck about saving lives. they want more money from tobacco lobbyists and tobacco lobbyists will give it to them so long as the fda protects the big business of giving people cancer at 7 dollars a pack.
What's happened is they taxed cigarettes with the ostensibly stated purpose of disincentivizing smoking. Then, cigarette sales dropped, their precious fucking revenues started drying up, and now they want to find a way to milk the e-cig market. The fact that it's truly about making money for something they did not work for (and not about saving us from ourselves, as they claim) is evinced by the fact that they're SO CERTAIN they're gonna find out they're bad for you, sans any present science.
@buzzkilla12 You do realize that its the tobacco companies that are trying to sell e cigarettes right. Honestly why blame the people for trying to ban a product that they themselves are trying to switch to try banning someone that would actually profit from it like the companies making the patch and gum.
Forget prozac! Chantix, suicide-inducing Chantix, horrific side-effect laden Chantix, to help get us to quit continues to be thrust upon us by the FDA! These dickheads only care about making themselves a buck. The smug little shits and their "Tobacco Truth" commercials always demonize the tobacco industry for making a profit (really, their outrage is secretly that they want their fair share of said profits), yet Chantix poisons us for their own profit. Fucking hypocrite nanny state bastards.
the fda wants e- cigs to be banned because the tobacco companys will lose money from their population control, dont have too much faith in the fda, if any.
Don't know about the population control part, but they know that e-cigs will hurt their own tobacco profits. Let's not forget the dirty little secret in all of this is that the government is a major investor in tobacco, and a de facto co-owner of all tobacco companies. They did like they intend to do with all private industries: gutted it, took ownership, set up shop for themselves, and started cracking the whip on the original owners to make them money. They need their "sin revenues".
Lol.,how can you trust someone that approves and hasnt ban the no 1 death cause in usa?
FDA are murderers.
maledrops 1 month ago
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The REAL reason that people may support a law to make such a simple device illegal is simple... no more profit for the major tobacco tycoons.
The tobacco industry leaders are shoving millions at anyone who can change the minds of the general public about the benefits of the e-cig.
Think about it people and voice your opinion without being falsely led along the tobacco industry’s path.
Grams79 4 months ago
the tabacco lobby is dancing with the fda around a big pyramid of money, while smoking e cigarettes.
EnergyOM 4 months ago
@EnergyOM Yup, they are all in the same bed, spooning each other lol!
ZeroSixtyFive 4 months ago
FDA = Fraudulent Drug pushing Asshats
Taz0161 9 months ago
And how many more hundreds of bad substances do real cigs have?? O boo fuckin hoo for anti freeze of one of the couple bad substances found in the E cig!! So lets see would you rather have hundreds of unknow chemicals going into your body with a real cig or just a few going in with a E cig?? Idk about you but id prefer the E cig
dirtyboybrad 9 months ago
I tried Nicorette, FAILED to quit.
I tried nicotine patches, FAILED to quit.
I tried cold turkey, FAILED to quit.
I tried lozenges, FAILED to quit.
Then I tried ecigarettes (TrueSmoker's Prodigy v3) and I've been cigarette free for almost a year after 20 years of smoking!
FUCK THE FDA for trying to ban ecigarettes, FUCK THE FDA for trying to kill us.
If bans go through in any state, not only will there be a price on their heads, there will also be blood, for we shall have nothing left to lose...
xlr8up 11 months ago 3
@xlr8up AMEN
perfectaim27 9 months ago
The FDA are shitheads, they rather have people smoke tobacco and kill themselves!!!
sapher2020 1 year ago
there is propylene glycol in normal cigarettes too... whats the problem?
heyvictim 1 year ago
If they are no more toxic than tobacco cigarettes the FDA should go F themselves.
mreilly919 1 year ago
Just a bit of fyi, propylene glycol has be extensively tested as the solvent (medium) for use in medication delivery, ie. when you take medication through vaporizers. Ashma, emphasema et al. And no negative side-effects have been found.
greedyfoot 1 year ago
Fuck d. FDA
francescortf 1 year ago
what we need to do is ban the sun seeing that it gives out skin cancer. turn it off until we can find a way to stop the cancer from the sun.... (EVERYTHING GIVES U CANCER)
zombietwix 1 year ago 2
LOL WTF SMH? This is ridiculously retarded on so many levels!!! What could possibly be more harmful than a cigarette? How is the FDA (with a straight face) attempting to ban a product for allegedly being harmful/cancerous when the very product they're comparing it against they have proven cancerous yet approved? It makes absolutely no sense. Nuts & bolts they don't give a shit about smoker's health. They scared b/c ecigs threaten the fat cash flow generated from tobacco taxes & sales revenues.
TheEditor80 1 year ago 2
this is great, i wish more people could see this..
asdffdsa1234 1 year ago
cigs keep the population down, and e cigs don't lol lets ban them they scream. how about you ban the real cigs instead fuckers
jreaper5000000 1 year ago
Isnt there CANCER causing stuff in cigarettes? Why isnt the FDA doing anything to ban that?
tatomuck18 1 year ago 7
@tatomuck18
Because the tobacco companies bribe the FDA to ignore it.
snookas1 1 year ago
@tatomuck18 Because the FDA does whats in the governments best interest , last year the US grossed over 3 billion dollars in cigarette tax. The FDA was probably told ban these things anyway way you can.
Taz0161 9 months ago
Propylene Glycol(PG) is not in Anti-Freeze that is a false statement. Diethylene glycol(DEG) is the substance in Anti-Freeze and DEG is used to dry tobacco products. All Vaporizing juice on the market uses PG or Vegetable Glycol (VG). Only one case of liquid was found to have DEG and that came from China (Either way, DEG is in regular cigarettes). The smoke machines at concerts use PG, NOT DEG found in anti-freeze.
Fuumoon 1 year ago
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it's day 50 for me! and i won't got back to cigs in fact i'm just about done using the E-cigs as well. E- Cigs Rock. I went from two packs a day to none on the very first day! People if you want to make a change in your life this is how to do it. Do it for you' do it for your family!
Citydoc111 1 year ago
propylene glycol is sugar! Water is in antifreeze too, are you going to ban water now? FUCKING STUPID ASS US GOVERNMENT. I hope obama takes a bullet in his big fuckin mouth.
edbean420 1 year ago
@edbean420 Just because Obama is Prez does not make him responsible for every sodding law, rule, or regulation that has ever been passed. Hell, he's a smoker himself. He'd probably benefit from this product and have no objections to it. Why does everything have to be political?
schbibik 1 year ago
@edbean420 your ignorants and addictions is what makes people like me rich in the world
garlictoastbread 1 year ago
The FDA seems to be asking two questions, and using a "NO" in either case as justification for banning. These two questions are:
A) Does the e-cig help people quit smoking, as effectively as smoking cessation products already approved by the FDA?
B) Is using the e-cig as healthy as not smoking at all?
This is a bad pair of questions. A better pair would be...
durned character limit
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
This is a bad pair of questions. A better pair would be:
A) Do people who use an e-cig smoke fewer regular cigs than they would otherwise? Even a little bit?
B) Is using an e-cig less hazardous than using regular cigs? Even a little bit?
If the answer to both of these questions is "YES," then not only should they not be banned, but smokers should be allowed to write the cost of an e-cig off of their taxes.
I'm a non-smoker BTW. These things are a LOT better for non-smokers.
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
go ahead big bad FDA ban it who gives a shit. Just like the war on drugs right, that really fuckin worked out great didnt it, tards!
sniffy45 1 year ago
Everyone's touting these e cigarettes as a means of quitting. I believe they are just a replacement habit. Also, it's not the e cig itself that is in question. It's what's in the liquid nicotine that needs to be examined.
prof5759 2 years ago
Hey, I'd rather out 20 chemicals in my body than 4000. Ciggs are proven to cause cancer and kill you, period! The e-cigg has been around for years in Europe and is not a means of quitting but it can be as you can regulate your nicotine dosage (comes in many different strengths). It is a terrific replacement if you enjoy smoking which I do so FUCK the FDA!
sniffy45 1 year ago
lmao @ propylene glycol....
the FDA can suck my balls too....
godsource 2 years ago
The FDA can suck my balls..
CKY4KK 2 years ago
FUCK THE UNITED STATES OF HYPOCRISY!!!
if our government cant control something we just ban it , make it illegal, and then use media to scare people into thinking theyre going to die from things than in the past 5 years hasnt killed a single person but the shit they sell has a body count of into the 100 thousands...so fuck america and fuck the corrupted shitheads who run the world through media and money...
RULZofDETH 2 years ago 2
the fda dosnt give a flying fuck about saving lives. they want more money from tobacco lobbyists and tobacco lobbyists will give it to them so long as the fda protects the big business of giving people cancer at 7 dollars a pack.
buzzkilla12 2 years ago 11
What's happened is they taxed cigarettes with the ostensibly stated purpose of disincentivizing smoking. Then, cigarette sales dropped, their precious fucking revenues started drying up, and now they want to find a way to milk the e-cig market. The fact that it's truly about making money for something they did not work for (and not about saving us from ourselves, as they claim) is evinced by the fact that they're SO CERTAIN they're gonna find out they're bad for you, sans any present science.
mikejackson4ever 2 years ago
when did you hear the FDA ever say "I WANT EVERYONE TO SMOKE CIGARETTES!!"
tatomuck18 1 year ago
@buzzkilla12 You do realize that its the tobacco companies that are trying to sell e cigarettes right. Honestly why blame the people for trying to ban a product that they themselves are trying to switch to try banning someone that would actually profit from it like the companies making the patch and gum.
olstar18 1 year ago
and yet fucking prozac and shit is sold like candy....
FUCK THE FDA!
indigoskrubz 2 years ago 2
Forget prozac! Chantix, suicide-inducing Chantix, horrific side-effect laden Chantix, to help get us to quit continues to be thrust upon us by the FDA! These dickheads only care about making themselves a buck. The smug little shits and their "Tobacco Truth" commercials always demonize the tobacco industry for making a profit (really, their outrage is secretly that they want their fair share of said profits), yet Chantix poisons us for their own profit. Fucking hypocrite nanny state bastards.
mikejackson4ever 2 years ago
the fda wants e- cigs to be banned because the tobacco companys will lose money from their population control, dont have too much faith in the fda, if any.
bigdog776 2 years ago 2
Don't know about the population control part, but they know that e-cigs will hurt their own tobacco profits. Let's not forget the dirty little secret in all of this is that the government is a major investor in tobacco, and a de facto co-owner of all tobacco companies. They did like they intend to do with all private industries: gutted it, took ownership, set up shop for themselves, and started cracking the whip on the original owners to make them money. They need their "sin revenues".
mikejackson4ever 2 years ago