Which country of birth should not be an important issue! If significant information comes out in the future maybe it should be. For now, Mcains sketchy record of his country of birth and possible illegal immigration should be dropped!
@mrumsower Well, it IS a fact that he was a citizen of Indonesia, and his name was "Barry Soetoro" This IS related to a very important issue ---- illegal immigration, which is why Lou Dobbs was so interested in it, and he was fired because of that. Even if someone is born in the US, he loses his American citizenship when he becomes a citizen of another country, and the same thing is true for those born in foreign countries, when they become citizens of the US.
the only portion of the public who is still making this an issue are the portion of the public who are mentally challenged. the 3 brain cell clique. these people are NUTCASES and closet racists. if Obama was white and democrat this would not even be an issue. i did not see anyone asking about clintons birth certificate, or either of the bush presidents. a bunch of lunatics with no integrity and no life are the ones who are still whining about this
Why do none of these guys suggest printing money under JFK's Executive Order 11,110? That would allow the Treausury to print money backed by our silver reserves instead of the fed backing in on air and charging 30% interest! Real money based on reserves will allways drive out bad money (fiat) based on air!
She said: I think its a fair question. What is wrong with that? Anyone running for office should be willing to open up there life for inspection or they should not seek office. So far Obama has spent $800,000.00 defending lawsuits that only want him to show his long form brith certificate. A paper copy would cost about 15 bucks and settle all these suits. Think about it. Obama is a smart guy right? A smart guy wouldnt waste hunderds of thousands of his own money like this would he?
President Obama has released a document called a Certificate of Live Birth, wherein it states he was born in Hawaii, but it is not the birth certificate. That would be sufficient if the original birth certificate were lost or destroyed. But that is not the case. The original does exist but Obama refuses to disclose it. That's what's puzzling. Here is a man who in order to gain the public trust, claims he is for transparency, yet refuses to release the birth certificate or his college papers...
.. Maybe he doesnt understand the meaning to the word transparency, which according to Websters dictionary means clearness, to make bright or clear; to make evident; to free from accusation. When there is a contradiction between what he says and what he does you begin to question, What is he trying to hide? What will those documents reveal? The point is not necessarily where he was born, but why he refuses to release the documents...
..The media should be trying to ascertain the truth and request that President Obama release the documents instead of criticizing the people who are looking for the answers. The media should at least ask him why he is refusing to disclose the birth certificate and college papers. The freedom of the press is recognized in the first amendment of the Constitution because they are supposed to be the watchdogs over the government.
is growing by leaps and bounds. Notice I said conservative. It's not replican its conservative. If a replican is acting like a dems/liber (spend spend and tax some more) then I don't vote for them.
curedrethug I dare you to watch beck for a week. Then after that week tell me what was wrong (with proof). I will post your findings on my new site. Lets see if you have the balls!
I have listened to Madcow, and air america. Funny all they did was bash someone who didn't agree with them. The fought back, not with facts but with half truths and everything that they tried to spread fell flat on its face due to the lies. Air America, is no more and fall ing fast, conservative radio
I am constant on what I believe in. I didn;t agree with Bush all the time. Bigger government, spending and the like. However, for the first 6 years we had record unemployment. Then the dems came in. That is when all hell broke loose. Of course bush didn't put libs in their place
hey curedrthug ... You also have allot of Dems feel the same way as some republicans. So why don't you go after them as well. I just dont believe in gay marriage. Neither does elton john, obama and many others who you think are just great. I do believe in civil unions, whats wrong with that, gives the same rights. So before you spout off with your liberal speaking bull shit points, think. I am who I am, I believe what I believe.
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thanx 4 your sacrafice dave....liberals are about conspiracies and propaganda with a anti christian anti america agenda...consider the source...god bless you all
hey curedrethug, if you so much want what I have join the military, put your life on the line for this country. Defend those who can't, Protect those who you don't even know, but they want the same thing you have FREEDOM, LIFE AND LIBERTY. Althoug I am disabled becuase of those beliefs, I will do it again in a heart beat. Which I find that you libs don't have a clue on what HONOR means
hey curedrethug, Just so you know I am a sdisabled VET 100%. I have my own business and work from home. Thiscountry is my life, argueing with idiots like you who can't seem to think for themselves is a bonus for me. The only ones here who don't know they are being lied to are the ones supporting this president without a thought. YOu are just going blindly along I feel sorry for you, One day you just may wake up with the rest
@curedrethug haha, funny I knew that was coming. Come now, don't stop there tell me, HOW is the VA money (my disability) is socialist money. Come now tell me. i am dying to know.
Ask your dingbat Wingnut Con friends who label Healthcare Reform "Socialism" and who try to smear anybody left of center (or left of far right) with "Marxist Commie" and "Fascist".
All money, services, and programs administered by the government are social programs. You think the VA is a private institution?
@curedrethug You are so stupid, I had a contract with the US government for my services. It WASN'T FREE you idiot, I paid for it. When the government gives its citizens free (HA) health care supplied by the Government it is Socialism. And Socialism DOE'S NOT work anywhere. Ask your socialist friends what they really want, they want the government to take care of them because life is so unfair. The VA is for the Soldiers who SERVED THIS COUNTRY SO IDIOTS LIKE YOU THE ABILITY TO SPEAK OUT.
Your contract? You were a soldier in the social program called the US military. Therefore you deserve the social benefits provided by the taxpayers. Fine.
What about the taxpayers who pay for and support the social programs you benefit from? Doesn't the hard-working taxpayer deserve the same services and benefits as the politicians and soldiers they support with their money?
@curedrethug Talking someone being out if the far left field, you are. The US military is now where near a social benfit. Were you born stupid, or is this something you have worked your whole life at? Just wondering. If it wasn't for the Military where would this country be Hmm, slavery, speaking chinese, german, russian Hitler would rule the world. Get a damn clue, you are truely a spineless lib/socialist How is Hitler/Obama doing for you?
The military is a government-controlled social program.
A good government guarantees a good military.
a good military does not guarantee a good government unless it is a rightwing dictatorship (which is what all Wingnut Cons deeply crave) And that is not a good government at all.
This is why all good soldiers support a civilian government by the people. The people pay the bills.
@curedrethug You have not a clue on anything you are saying. You respect no one, you blame everyone for your pathetic life. Grow up I wouldn't want respect from you, just get behind me, hide behind that rock while the mlitary protects your sorry ass, so fuck you and the whore who brough you in this life. You just don't get it. But again hide, because I and many people who believe, which by the way, you are loosing many 71 % dislike the way the fed is going. and is continue to grow
@curedrethug It is right in front of you, just open your eyes, Obama and some other dems have stated that they want Government Controled, they want ONE payer, they want socialisd health care. What now you don't believe them? You are watching the wrong news organizations. Most likely the ones which favor and support this person
Obama has not mentioned any desire for single payer and he has downplayed the public option, saying it is not necessary for reform.
Most things you enjoy in your life including your VA benefits are "Government controlled" - add bridges, highways, medicare, social security, postal service, schools, firefighters, police, and the US Army.
How is the addition of a "government controlled" health initiative suddenly the worse thing in the world for you?
@curedrethug ARe you kidding me, the videos are out there. It is even on the internet. Thats it, you have absolutely nothing worth while to say. Your thoughts are polluted.
Government Controlled Health care DOESN'T WORK wake up. You really can't be this ignorant.
@curedrethug Fox News is not the only place I get my information. You should watch fox and listen to rush. Then may be you will understand the lies you have been told . As far as the VA get off it, you don't even have a clue.
You have government controlled health care coverage so why can't every other taxpayer? Why can't the taxpayers who supplement your health care coverage have the same thing?
@curedrethug Are you kidding, they can. Simple join the military put in your time and you will get what you deserve. Health care is NOT a right. Why don't you just better your self and get a job which offers health care. Get the government out of the health care business and pricess will go down. Allow people the ability to shop for health insurance across state lines. KEEP THE GOVERNMENT out of our lives and things will be better.
@curedrethug Thank me and all who have served, go back into the basement and SHUT THE @# UP, WHEN YOU HAVE A CLUE AND STOP TALKING with the socialist lies. Then thank me and move on
@curedrethug Typical lib, your distain fo rthe military is pure low. If you hate this country so much, move to cuba, russia. The US Military is the best out there. You OWE The military and the brave men and woman who serve to keep you sorry ass safe. So go back to your lieing do nothing life and let the brave defend this country against those who wish to do us HARM. Now whining here, just pure facts.
I owe a big thank you to my decent, brave uncle who fought in Vietnam and who lost a leg doing so. I respect him as an individual and as a man for answering the the call without fear and for returning with humility and a desire to continue serving his fellow man without fanfare or hubris
You deserve zero respect from me, davey. You're a bloated, ignorant fool and a divisive, hateful embarrassment to all the good people who wear a uniform.
@curedrethug Hate full, there you go, I disagree with socialism, want what is best for this country, want all man to be free to enjoy life and to get everything they deserve by hard work. You are a fool, coward,. Your house is falling around you and your precious Obama is destroying it.
You don't know what Socialism is. The wingnut chatter you hear on Faux News has screwed up your mind.
Your definition of "socialism" includes all the benefits you would never want destroyed and that make your life better and more civilized including your VA coverage - add bridges, highways, medicare, social security, postal service, schools, firefighters, police, and the US Army.
Health care reform is simply part of the progress that began a long time ago and that you currently enjoy.
Signs are here: Palin, Congress, Hannity seek birth certificate SPREAD MESSAGE: OBAMA ANTICHRIST HISTORY'S WORST CRIMINAL EVER even than Hitler, to fall soon It's up to law-courts and no-one else whether penalty's death for 1. faking certificate 2. getting power by nuclear force to kill us 1000 times over, which's bad 666 marked him Heaven showed us the way Meteorite announces him too: Norwegian meteorite greets Obama ? See my latest favorites !
@curedrethug Politico, hmm strange because that isn't even close, try 65% would rather vote for a conservative or tea party then a dem. Sorry your lies don't work here
@curedrethug NOPE, the government is for the Military WHO have served this country. What I have with the VA I EARNED. Just because you are a low life looser, doesn't mean you just can have everything for free. This will give the Government control over what you want to do eat drink you name it...... If you want the VA system then join the military.. What is so hard about that.
@curedrethug Why do you figure you deserve free medical, maybe a new home. How about a new car. Oh shoot, new home tooooo... This country can not afford Health Insurance for all, name one country where it is working and not destroying the country. You can't honestly, because there isn't any. If you watched FOX you will see both sides, then decide. Other than that go back to your momies house and shut the fuck up
@curedrethug iT IS, according to obama and other dems, they want one payer government. it is out there you just have to take stupid off your eyes to see. I suppose you believe in global warming as well.
You confusing what is being proposed with what was being discussed.
You're confusing the realm of possibility with theory and ideals.
The Dems have come to reality. Their Healthcare Reform is greatly compromised. But this is a Democracy and that's how things work in case you didn't know. COMPROMISE.
You Repugs are a bunch of hardliner, hardheaded fascists. Everything has to be absolute but absolutism is not sustainable. Which is why you lose.
@curedrethug Here is the problem, you are so stuck in stupid there is absolutely nothing anyone can say or do to get you to wake up. Believe what you want, you are 100% wrong, I can't nor can anyone else help you. Just how does it feel to be on the wrong side of history and loosing in the public. 36% is not good. Me I would go tea party because the replicans haven't figured it out yet. Conservative is the way to go, and STOP SPEINDING OUR MONEY stop with the social justice crap. Retire GORE
@curedrethug AS you and others have said, the tea parties and the rep have something in common. If givin the chance they would vote republican. You are pruposely missing the point the dems are in power, the are very low. The tea party is trying to tell the repubs and dems something. STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY. STOP TAXING US TO DEATH. WHAT PART OF THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DUMB SHIT
A forthcoming study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concludes that the $1.4 trillion annual deficit run by the government has little to do with current White House policies and much to do with George W. Bush's actions.
"What we have looked at were several major contributors to the deficit: the tax cuts between 2001 and 2003, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the effects of the recession as well as the legislative response to the recession"
Wow! curedrethug really handed you ass to you davey, I mean , Fuck! You left that argument with him wearing three shoes, Two on your feet and one in your ASS!!!
@curedrethug look 36 % is good considering they where voted out of office for acting like a bunch of dems. Better yet people voting for the tea party should be a signal to the Repubs to get their fucking act together.
Rep is suppose to be conservative, lower tax's, fiscal responsible. Conservative is suppose to be for freedom of the people and NOT BIGGER GOVERNMENT. They lost there way and hopefully with the tea parties popiing up everywhere they just might.
@curedrethug Obama is helping by destroying the dems with the far left of the crowd. This country is center right, is now, and will always be. That is a fact of life. This president, nancy and of course reid, taking this country so far left, there won't be a dem party for along time. They are truly showing there true colors and what they want. They want to be like cuba, (Maxine waters), they envy hugo, stalin and the like.
I'm trying to make sense of your babble. Would prefer to ignore you but I feel it is my duty as a fellow citizen to inform you as best I can.
It is the Repugs who are in shambles and closer to extinction. Teabaggers put the party on Self-Destruct.
Ask any true Socialist if Obama, Nancy, and Harry are "far left" and they will laugh you out of the room. They are actually Conservative by any other standard besides your woefully ignorant one.
25% wants the government health care big difference.
Yea sure, the dems are, they can't pass shit. They don't need any republicans, they have 60, they can't get the dems to bow down, why, to many people don't want socialized health care. How can I make this any clearer
@curedrethug Yea I due, but it will be stopped, to many people are out and protesting. This is grass roots, this is of the people. No acorn crowd, no union thugs, just ordinary people taking a day off from work to put the likes of you out of business. I will say it again, your budy, the mesia, obama will get his ass handed to him in 2010 and in 2012 if the right conservative comes out of this it will be a land side.
Why support a government that wants to take your freedom away
You're confusing Teabagging mobs for some kind of majority movement. I understand the exhilaration of being surrounded by thousands of like-minded people. You feel powerful and invincible.
But reality is far different. You're only affecting the right wing, vilifying moderate voices while elevating extremists. Meanwhile Repugs remain in the 20% and under, divided against themselves.
Until you change your proven failed agenda, you can expect to remain in the wilderness.
@curedrethug What ever happened to life liberty and the persuit of happiness? Individual freedom. We are not europe but yet that is what the lord (obama) wants, for he is part of the world order and wants to be king of all the land. Just listen to the way he speaks,and look at who he has around him. 2010 he will get knocked out of his thrown and 2012 he will be truly dethrowned
Civil rights belongs to everyone, don't lump gay mariage into it. Obama doesn't agree with it either. So how is it a republican thing?
Deny healthcare, hmmm strange, the new health care wouldn't cover 25 million? Health care is out there for everyone.
Demonize individuals of different races, religions and classes. OOOPS you made a mistake, re look at it. Look at what the dems are doing. Lost big time on this.
Abortions always go DOWN during Democratic administrations anyway.
Obama is not the Liberal Ideal. He may be for you but you don't know your ass from your mouth. Plus he does not spend millions of monetary and political capital campaigning against gays to deny them the basic right to mind their own damn business.
Healthcare is not affordable for everyone due to rationing and price gouging by your corporate masters.
@curedrethug What do you think a fetus is? It is a child, it has all the means for being a child, hence it is a child. All I know is my dick is in your mouth fuck wad. Now you are talking about the church's who have gone way out of the way. ie. the church protesting the military funerals saying something about gays and how the government supports, or some such nonsense.
@curedrethug shocker for you, I believe in gays i the military (there already there) and ain't hurting no one. Hmm tail hook scandal wasn't a bunch of gay guys?
anyways, I diegress. I do believe that if a person is gay, that is that persons choice (which I really don't think it is a choice, but part of who they are)
@curedrethug You liberal ideal would be Hitler, Chavez, Castro, you want that kind of Goernment move. This country will not allow. We will not allow something like that to bring us down. Obama and the dems are finding that out quickly
@curedrethug 62% do NOT want the health care bill. This is not a health care reform, it is a Government take over of health care, which every country has tried and it don't work.
Not even close dink, your won't even go anywhere. You are a typeical lib..... LIB or should I say socialist or are u a marxist, hmmmmm Conservatism will never die, it has been proven each time it is done. Socialism however, has proven time and time again it just doesn't work. What happens when you run out of other peoples money?
I don't care what your beliefs are Palin is objectively a complete idiot. Even the people in the McCain campaign admitted it after it was all over.
True conservatism (not the neo con bullshit in other words embrassed the GOP right now) is libertarianism, following the constitution, not going into wars without constitutional approval etc.
I'm sorry you're disabled, and that's cool you're a vet, but that doesn't give your opinions any more weight than any other American.
No your right, my opion is just like a greater number than yours. You are so stuck in your failed idology that you are letting this government, this president destroy this country. We are in a world of hurt with the government just spending money hand over foot. Bush did it repubs where doing it and they lost for it Now the dems are doing it and this country need sto be taken back by honest god fearing people. Or we wont be any better than cuba,russia and will be right along with hugo
We need a President that has enough sense to realize god is no more real than santa clause, the green giant, the tooth fairy, the devil, or intelligent christians. Just saying you are christian means you can disconnect from reality and have
"faith" in what you "believe". Child molesters often "believe" little girls are flirting with them. They "believe" the little girls wants to have sex with them, so they should be given room to exercise that belief. Republican = child molester.
the war thing, sorry you have been proven wrong on that front, however, we need to get conservatism back on track and get rid of the phony want to be. McCain is a starter next
how am I "proven wrong" on the war thing, it's not really an opinion. Constitution says you need congressional declaration of war, and it's there for a reason, so one man can't drag a country of 300 million into war for no reason.
As a libertarian I am normally for reduced spending I agree it's out of control but socialized health care is needed, we are behind Costa Rica in ranking. It's ridiculous.
Socialized health care =/= communism. It's a lie from the neocons cause they want 2012.
@IcyScythe All that has already been looked at, We have the best health care and socialized medicine doesn't work. They will deny you and the elderly, watch out they have a pill for you. At least that is what obama has said many times. You are blind
Health care = socialism, it is a fact. again they want to control yourlife, if that is what you want, move to another country, then they can tell you what to eat and how to live. But not me or many more like minded.
It really is nice to see you have learned all the talking points. We currently have a health care system that refuses legal citizens coverage while allowing millions of illegal aliens to use our emergency rooms as doctors offices and not pay a dime. John McCain wants to legalize all 20 million illegals. What do you think will happen to the pay scale for all Americans?? Go to church, shop at walmart, and watch our country descend further. You already took the "pill" Dave. Flouride in water.
@kingachybraky Talking points yea sure what ever, facts are the same, If you need to go to the hospital they will see you, it is the law. As far as illegals, we shouldn't be giving anything away. McCain, I was against legalizing illegals, they are here illegal, what part of that do they not get. I was one of the millions calling to stop this instanity. I work for doctors offices, they don't refuse anyone, getting paid is another subject? So you are taking the pill, I speak from experience
@kingachybraky Also, What is wrong with going to church, it helps people stay grounded. With the health care, socilizing it is not the answer, more doctors will retire or just simply quit.
Green County, Missouri has over 1200 registered churches. There are only THREE homeless shelters and two of them were not allowed to stay open for christmas because of code violations. What the good christians are telling the homeless is loud and clear, go somewhere else for winter or freeze to death. Big, no huge, new churches with paved, lighted parking lots, but not one new penny for homeless or poor people in this predominantly christian county. Republichristians disgust me to no end.
@kingachybraky YOu mean the dem controlled government didn't want it around hmmmm, look closer it is the same in sf and other cities. Compassion my but. LIbs want power and your money nothing else
Boy, you are some kind of hummer, Dave. Church is SOCIALIZING your religion. Religion means "to bind". Look it up in your own concordance. Just because I no longer believe in the great space god does not mean I don't know my bible. I was raised southern baptist until I realized it was the KKK in plain clothes. Our local doctors are "owned" by the local hospitals. They would like to open private practices but can't compete with the hospitals. The hospital makes the profit, not doctors
@kingachybraky ARe you serious, where do you get your information from. I have plenty of doctors with their own practice. KKK that sucks, should try a real church, they are not all created equal. I really started to go with the catholic church while in the army, then found a church which opens its doors to all. pentecostal.
You are so far off base becuase of your hatred you can't see correctly So many facts out there you are missing.
@kingachybraky You will not be able to re define words Instead of Liberal, socialist we should now call you progressive's, socializing is not the same as socialism of the government. IT don't work tried in many areas, calif, mich, cuba, and others it don't work
@daveh69 Even after the reforms of the healthcare bill, the US will be left with a system that is more conservative than that of nearly every other industrialised country. In fact, can you name an industrialised country other than the USA that has a healthcare system that you would not regard as socialist?
@JDB7484 If it run by the government it is a socialist system. I tottaly dis agree with. When did it become the governments job? Social Security, medicare, medical all controlled by the government THEY ARE BROKE. With the government running health care we will have the health care of a third world country is that what you want.
@daveh69 The healthcare bill did not include a public option or Medicare buy-in. It mainly provides additional regulation and subsidies for private insurance. As to Medicare: Keep in mind that healthcare costs are rising more rapidly in privately funded healthcare than in publicly funded care. You are afraid of moving toward a 3rd world healthcare system, but you ignore the fact that the healthcare system of every other 1st world country is more left-wing than the Democrats' bill.
@JDB7484 Yea, but it has the same effect, it will put the insurance companies out of business. Which in a speach obama gave that is the plan. Healthcare is rising in all sectors. If you cut 25% of medicare reimbursements to doctors. You will have fewer doctors taking seniors. then they go to the government ran health care and like obama said, maybe granny doesn't need that hip replacement. Maybe all she needs is a pill. And you defend this socilist why
@superusername Here is the problem with your answer, my job, I deal with doctors all the time. manyu kinds of doctors. so when a majority won't continue, believe me they won't when I say that medicare this month will cut 20% of remembursement then they will feb 2011 medicare will cut 30% reimbursement there will be less doctors. The only way the government can lower the cost of health care in their eyes, pay less, or don't offer needed operations to people. that is cost control that is obama
My brother is severely schizophrenic and suicidally depressed but can't get medical insurance because he has a "pre-existing condition" and is forced to pay thousands out of pocket for treatment. This is the medical healthcare system that the Republicans want to keep, the "die quickly" healthcare system.
I feel for your brother and wish I or someone can do something. However the republicans want true change. Do you really think that the government will be able to do it. They will deny him, because someone more important will do it better. there are things out their which could help. There are allot of charities? The bigger problem is, the government doesn't have the money and will ration it anyway. you will loose on both accounts. Don't look for government to help. I am willing to help
see man I don't get your logic, you seem to oppose socialism in all forms, what do you think a charity is?? Socialism! People putting money in a pool to pay for other people's needs is classic socialism.
Charity run by church, money received by people freeely giving, that is not socialism, not in a long shot. These people freely give to an organiztion to help others. Socialism, you are so wrong in so many ways. Wait a minute I have offered you some help???? and a possible way of helping your brother????
Do you even have a brother with the said mentioned problem, or are you just a typical lib/socialist lieing through your pathitic pie hole?????
Bascially socialism is using other peoples money to spread the wealth (as obama said) for equal wealth (or something like that) Why won't the president or all those other rich demo crats put there money where their mouth is. They don't care about you,they care about making more money and getting more power over all of us. so they can tell us how to live. is that what you really want> I SURE THE HHH DON'T
I AM DISABLED VET
and will not allow the government to move in that direction.
You don't have any say in where the govt' moves. Judging by your inability to spell properly, you have been abused by the republichistians you serve. Public schools did not teach you to be a reasoning thinker. P. S. did not teach you to spell, speak, handle finances, or relationships. Republichristians do not want Americans to realize there is no god or to realize the repugs are not looking our for them. They want them stupid enough to believe in god and country at all costs.
because I don't rely on the government for crap. Hell they can't even run the dmv correctly. I program in the health care industry and will ask some people on what can be done;. We as americans must stand to gether or we will all fail together. You can send me a littly bit more information (nothing personal) but enough info so I can ask logical questions. Send message to me private
And remember, where their is a will there is always a way
ROADS, BRIDGES, AIRPORTS, POLICE, FIRE FIGHTERS, FLOOD CONTROL, ELECTRICITY, SOCIAL SECURITY,
all brought to you by GOVERNMENT. Local or Federal governments were also the creators of most of America's hospitals. Without Government we would have no National Identity and you would not be a disabled vet/war criminal.
GEORGE BUSH did the destroying of this country and assholes like you are too godamn stupid to see beyond black. Please go fuck yourself to death.
@kingachybraky I read your crap and won't comment on all of it. It isn't worth my time. However, there is a GOD and your hatred is extremely mis guided. Rep tried to warn about freddy and the other. They all defended that. I didn't agree with the repulicans spending all the money either. I am a christian, conservative but above all i am an American.
How is that hope and change, this president is changing this country to a socialist environment. Nove you loose and true conservatism will
Typical republichristian lier, huh Dave? Prove there is a god. I don't hate you for believing in god. If anything, I pity you and all the other gullible, juvenile, uneducated, minority individuals unable to stand on their own two feet. Quit blaming god for your failures and accomplishments. If you did something good, claim it for yourself. Your self esteem will be improved and you will not enjoy a murderous president in the future.
@kingachybraky fix this mess and get the crooks out. Look at all the dems who are crooks working for this white house and the entire federal government. Dodd, wrangle, franks, palosi, reid and the list goes on. Get a clue because tuesday will be a very interesting day.
YOU LOOSE, socialism doesn't work all they want is control of your life
Dave, Dave, Dave, Loose is how I wear my clothes. Loose is not a noun, it describes something like your brain. As in: your tiny brain has come loose and is rolling around in your oversized head.
Rattling off all the Democratic names you can remember and calling them crooks does not explain why you back a president that attacked another country and murdered tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. You people are just as guilty of murder.. Murders, rapist, child molesters = republichristians
You mean John McCain, one of the Keating Five?? Didn't Johnny get over $100,000.00 payoff while millions of Americans got ripped off by the Savings and Loans. The govt. bailed the Saving & Loans out twenty years ago. That was the test drive for this last ripoff, also brought on by republicunts. The republichristian way is "all for us, none for you". Just saying you are republican does not make you one of the "us". Just a fool.
Taliban, killing individual with bombs, including kids. Killing just them selves for what. You are so backward on this it is down right shamefull
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
Our military is out there to protect those who want freedom against the likes of Sadam and his low life (DEAD) sons. Where were you when they were raping and killing at will
Why don't we invade every bad nation on the planet? You think Sadaam was the worst?
Wingnut Cons don't know how to fight wars. You go in unprepared and full of sh*t.
Sadaam coulda been defeated without killing thousands of young Americans. Unfortunately, you people were too bloodthirsty, incompetent and arrogant to do it right.
I supported the fight against the Taliban. But Bush/Cheney dropped the ball for 8 long years. Totally ignored Afghanistan.
You all are wrong. Carter., Bush, (1 & 2) even Clinton to the newest Obama is all political puppets.(1967) Do u really think or believe any one of them makes decisons? Be very sure they don't. They answer to a much higher (secret) power than any of u can imagine. Really, they are just men who has sold them selves for a title & the oh mighty $ Dont be ignorant folks stop saying he did she did & start investigating more NWO & illuminate u dumb apes. stop letting them fu** ur minds. wake UP & READ
hey ugboy1, no matter what proof is out there you will never believe, you will go lock step with your party, your socialist party. THis country and the Conservative Repubilcans believe in individual freedom. Just don't say anything at all, unless you have a thought with evidence behind you, other than that just shut up.
"THis country and the Conservative Repubilcans believe in individual freedom."
The Cons care about individual freedom now, huh? Is that why they ramroded the (un)Patriot(ic) Act through Congress and why Bush Co repeatedly violated FISA?
It's the Republicons who hate soldiers and veterans. They sent you off to fight in a bullshit war in Iraq, wouldn't sent the appropriate equipment, and then voted to cut VA funding that will care for disabled vets like you! Thank you for your sacrifice.
"Why argue with these Repug neanderthal nitwits about birth certificates?"
The Repug/wingnut/neanderthals think Obama's birth certificate is invalid because they've never seen one where the mother and father have different last names.
Why argue with idiot libs, they don't believe in anything but their own miss guided bs. Like Glen Beck Said arguing with idiots. People can show you facts and you will dismiss by calling the messanger names. But you won't show how the facts are wrong, or answer simple quesitons with facts. LIbs are useless and becoming an extinct bunch
If Sarah, Plain and Dumb wants to make Obama's place of birth an issue - let's make her old man's membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party an issue where she also attended meetings.
Actually place of birth is an issue as per the U.S. Constitution requirement of natural born citizenship status, born on U.S. soil, sovereign to our laws.
Likewise, the 2 American parent issue....It's not suprise than that Zero, the first Prez with ONE FOREIGN PARENT at the time of his birth (Chester Arthur later discovered to have lied) bows to foreign leaders. It's called allegiances, which have been written about by the Founding Fathers, SCOTUS cases...
So that's Barry's first problem, which SCOTUS should fully rule on, but won't;
The other we don't know where Barry was born, no conspiracy. We don't even know what hospital. Can Barry tell us where he was born? No.
Thus is the purpose of Medical Doctors, Nurses, Midwives and Registrars, acting as "Certifying Officials" of a birth, to ensure the integrity or chain of evidence of the birth certificate to be properly recorded within Vital Statistics archives, and that's on a long form b.c.
Typical race baiting and WE'RE BACK TO BUSH! ha ha. Could it be that your messiah is an empty suit that hasn't run a hotdog stand? I think so, i know it's hard for you Obot.
And you still can't handle Zero's nondisclosure, I'm sending you some links about your messiah, you will know fear, and you may actually start thinking about allegiance to the U.S. constitution and not based on skin color bigot.
Did you enjoy the 7 links from African press stating KENYAN BORN OBAMA?
Wow, the conspiracy deepens Sabu.
That's why we need the CRAZY AND NUTTY long form, which you Obots can't seem to deal with. No conspiracy, common sense. But Barry's got lots to lose! Yep
@MsPaulRevere You guys are nuts or what? Obama SHOWED his birth certificate! How many times must he show it? He can show it 10 times to the 10 power and it still WOULD NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH for you kooks and you know why? And here it comes because of your RACISM! You'll NEVER ACCEPT A BLACK AS PRESIDENT! Now go ahead and accuse me of pulling a race card! (Is this card like Visa?) In your warped "minds" its never about racism.Death threats against a U.S. president WENT UP 400% with Obama! Racism!
How many laws will go unenforced in this country? There is the LOGAN ACT, and if it were enforced, we wouldn't have groups like CFR, TRILATERAL COMMISSION, BILDERBERG, G-WHATEVER NUMBER, even that Bohemian Grove crap, in which elite discuss politics relating to you and I.
It's now PROVEN that "climate change" is hijacked environmentalism for an IMF/UN SCAM. Multi trillion dollar question; WHO IS BEHIND ALSHILL GORE, and the CARBON WALLSTEET in Chicago?
What a small world you live in to believe everything you think is true. Humanity is much more complex than the hollywood-esque conspiracies that enrage you to such a pathetic end, more complex than is ever even possible within these groups.
I always check accounts,looking for credibility in the post. Now watch you post to me again, after I don't post to you directly; because your TROLLING and SHILLING LIES.
I bet your a "climate gate" denier as well; even though Congress is having to deal with the PROVEN IMF/UM SCAM that reaches to those behind ASSHILL GORE, and those behind the CARBON CREDIT/ WALLSTREET IN Chicago.
I am looking forward to that MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR question as well.
go to bigc028282's channel to see another right wing fundamentalist fascist bigot a.k.a republican/conservative/christian........don't worry we aren't surprised that there are neo-nazis on youtube, you were always going to get round to spreading your hate here as well, Hitler worshipper.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention. Obama released his birth certificate a long time ago.
Just this past July: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."
Republican governor Linda Lingle also verified it.
"No, thats all part of the scheme of the Mason/Jews/Illuminati to hide the fact he was from Kenya."
It's almost like Fundamentalism. Decry the mountain of evidence and logic that says otherwise but near worship someone's doctored Kenyan birth certificate made in Microsoft Works.
@recompile It was found to be a fake, and it wasn't the correct birth certificate showing he was born in that state.
All I am saying, why spend 1.2mil bucks to keep your birth certificate away from anyone seeing. McCain showed his, Obama keeps spending money to hide?
I think you're confused. The birth certificate that Obama presented was found to be genuine. It's been verified by numerous independent groups.
The only fake certificate was the photoshopped Kenyan one that Orly Taits was pushing -- The guy who made it based it on an Australian birth certificate available online.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts? Obama showed his birth certificate. Hawaiian officials have confirmed it. What more do you want?
@recompile Not confused, I don't understand why someone would spend millions of dollars and not produce a simple document.. And what you are saying is not Exactly accurate. Just answer the simple question, why not just product the sucker and the entire things would be put to rest, why spend millions to hide something. I wasn't part of this thing in the first place, but they have a valid point. Produce the document
To be honest, nothing will satisfy the birthers, even if Jesus himself delivered Obama's birth certificate to them, they would still reject it as doctored. The Governor and the Director of the Hawaii Sate Department of Health verified, from viewing his birth records, that they were genuine and that Obama was born in Hawaii. Palinbots/Becktrolls/Teabaggers/Birthers sound like angry white fundamentalists who can't understand how are black man got elected.
Crasier is electing someone who is NOT a Born Citizen of the United States. If you keep dodging the question then the question starts to pick up more people. 1.7 million to hide the birth certificate,
@MachShot1337 See here is the problem, you are a typical lib/socialist. Nothing but a name calling bafoon. You can't even come up with anything that she has said which is totally wrong.
The real truth, you are afraid of her, because your socialist utopia is going down.
Palin all the way, watching/listening to your kind is a bonus
@daveh69 What socialist utopia? You think a healthcare bill no matter how poorly planed is the magical bridge to the USSR?
I'm not a socialist, i actually lean right on economics, but for God's sake all I ask is for a relatively smart person on the other end. If Obama turns out to be a failure, Id rather have Huckabee as the alternative. He has that "folksy" charm Sarah fans love, but also has real experience and economic policy to boot. This is the presidency, not American Idol.
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Well, it IS a fact that he was born in the U.S.(his birth certifict was realeasted)
You'r quote"most likely, Obama was not born in the US", IS wrong, now you know you'r wrong.
mrumsower 5 months ago
Which country of birth should not be an important issue! If significant information comes out in the future maybe it should be. For now, Mcains sketchy record of his country of birth and possible illegal immigration should be dropped!
Zeeeeek 1 year ago
Conspiracy theories cut both ways, because, most likely, Obama was not born in the US
mooninquirer 1 year ago
@mooninquirer now you know your wrong
mrumsower 5 months ago
@mrumsower Well, it IS a fact that he was a citizen of Indonesia, and his name was "Barry Soetoro" This IS related to a very important issue ---- illegal immigration, which is why Lou Dobbs was so interested in it, and he was fired because of that. Even if someone is born in the US, he loses his American citizenship when he becomes a citizen of another country, and the same thing is true for those born in foreign countries, when they become citizens of the US.
mooninquirer 5 months ago
@mooninquirer thanks for not getting mean and nasty. please see my other comment
mrumsower 5 months ago
the only portion of the public who is still making this an issue are the portion of the public who are mentally challenged. the 3 brain cell clique. these people are NUTCASES and closet racists. if Obama was white and democrat this would not even be an issue. i did not see anyone asking about clintons birth certificate, or either of the bush presidents. a bunch of lunatics with no integrity and no life are the ones who are still whining about this
SunimZen 1 year ago
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Why do none of these guys suggest printing money under JFK's Executive Order 11,110? That would allow the Treausury to print money backed by our silver reserves instead of the fed backing in on air and charging 30% interest! Real money based on reserves will allways drive out bad money (fiat) based on air!
GoingConstitutional 1 year ago
She said: I think its a fair question. What is wrong with that? Anyone running for office should be willing to open up there life for inspection or they should not seek office. So far Obama has spent $800,000.00 defending lawsuits that only want him to show his long form brith certificate. A paper copy would cost about 15 bucks and settle all these suits. Think about it. Obama is a smart guy right? A smart guy wouldnt waste hunderds of thousands of his own money like this would he?
UtherPendragan 2 years ago
@curedrethug is the most literate and cogent poster I have read on youtube.
Thankyou for your thoughtful analysis and courage in standing up the the rabble against 'medical care for all'.
We are the last industrialized nation to get it.
oldboldcold 2 years ago
okay what is a birther and why is it a big deal for the man to show ever one his brith recorders
faceswithin 2 years ago
President Obama has released a document called a Certificate of Live Birth, wherein it states he was born in Hawaii, but it is not the birth certificate. That would be sufficient if the original birth certificate were lost or destroyed. But that is not the case. The original does exist but Obama refuses to disclose it. That's what's puzzling. Here is a man who in order to gain the public trust, claims he is for transparency, yet refuses to release the birth certificate or his college papers...
gz1234z 2 years ago
.. Maybe he doesnt understand the meaning to the word transparency, which according to Websters dictionary means clearness, to make bright or clear; to make evident; to free from accusation. When there is a contradiction between what he says and what he does you begin to question, What is he trying to hide? What will those documents reveal? The point is not necessarily where he was born, but why he refuses to release the documents...
gz1234z 2 years ago
..The media should be trying to ascertain the truth and request that President Obama release the documents instead of criticizing the people who are looking for the answers. The media should at least ask him why he is refusing to disclose the birth certificate and college papers. The freedom of the press is recognized in the first amendment of the Constitution because they are supposed to be the watchdogs over the government.
Greg Zotta
gz1234z 2 years ago
is growing by leaps and bounds. Notice I said conservative. It's not replican its conservative. If a replican is acting like a dems/liber (spend spend and tax some more) then I don't vote for them.
daveh69 2 years ago
curedrethug I dare you to watch beck for a week. Then after that week tell me what was wrong (with proof). I will post your findings on my new site. Lets see if you have the balls!
I have listened to Madcow, and air america. Funny all they did was bash someone who didn't agree with them. The fought back, not with facts but with half truths and everything that they tried to spread fell flat on its face due to the lies. Air America, is no more and fall ing fast, conservative radio
daveh69 2 years ago
I am constant on what I believe in. I didn;t agree with Bush all the time. Bigger government, spending and the like. However, for the first 6 years we had record unemployment. Then the dems came in. That is when all hell broke loose. Of course bush didn't put libs in their place
daveh69 2 years ago
hey curedrthug ... You also have allot of Dems feel the same way as some republicans. So why don't you go after them as well. I just dont believe in gay marriage. Neither does elton john, obama and many others who you think are just great. I do believe in civil unions, whats wrong with that, gives the same rights. So before you spout off with your liberal speaking bull shit points, think. I am who I am, I believe what I believe.
daveh69 2 years ago
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NamchuWangden 2 years ago
msnbc are liars they should'nt talk they are "truthers" so please
AerosolDemonsLA 2 years ago
thanx 4 your sacrafice dave....liberals are about conspiracies and propaganda with a anti christian anti america agenda...consider the source...god bless you all
AerosolDemonsLA 2 years ago
@AerosolDemonsLA amen
daveh69 2 years ago
hey curedrethug, if you so much want what I have join the military, put your life on the line for this country. Defend those who can't, Protect those who you don't even know, but they want the same thing you have FREEDOM, LIFE AND LIBERTY. Althoug I am disabled becuase of those beliefs, I will do it again in a heart beat. Which I find that you libs don't have a clue on what HONOR means
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
Defense of this country is the right thing to do.
daveh69 2 years ago
hey curedrethug, Just so you know I am a sdisabled VET 100%. I have my own business and work from home. Thiscountry is my life, argueing with idiots like you who can't seem to think for themselves is a bonus for me. The only ones here who don't know they are being lied to are the ones supporting this president without a thought. YOu are just going blindly along I feel sorry for you, One day you just may wake up with the rest
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
daveh69 2 years ago
Sorry you're disabled, dave.
But perhaps some of that socialist VA money can get you to a shrink.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug haha, funny I knew that was coming. Come now, don't stop there tell me, HOW is the VA money (my disability) is socialist money. Come now tell me. i am dying to know.
daveh69 2 years ago
Ask your dingbat Wingnut Con friends who label Healthcare Reform "Socialism" and who try to smear anybody left of center (or left of far right) with "Marxist Commie" and "Fascist".
All money, services, and programs administered by the government are social programs. You think the VA is a private institution?
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug You are so stupid, I had a contract with the US government for my services. It WASN'T FREE you idiot, I paid for it. When the government gives its citizens free (HA) health care supplied by the Government it is Socialism. And Socialism DOE'S NOT work anywhere. Ask your socialist friends what they really want, they want the government to take care of them because life is so unfair. The VA is for the Soldiers who SERVED THIS COUNTRY SO IDIOTS LIKE YOU THE ABILITY TO SPEAK OUT.
daveh69 2 years ago
Okay dave.
Now where in the current health care reform package does it say health care will be free?
Show me the exact line where it says health care will be supplied by the government.
And please explain how the move to make the health care system a more fair, less financially draining corporate scam is "Socialism".
curedrethug 2 years ago
Your contract? You were a soldier in the social program called the US military. Therefore you deserve the social benefits provided by the taxpayers. Fine.
What about the taxpayers who pay for and support the social programs you benefit from? Doesn't the hard-working taxpayer deserve the same services and benefits as the politicians and soldiers they support with their money?
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Talking someone being out if the far left field, you are. The US military is now where near a social benfit. Were you born stupid, or is this something you have worked your whole life at? Just wondering. If it wasn't for the Military where would this country be Hmm, slavery, speaking chinese, german, russian Hitler would rule the world. Get a damn clue, you are truely a spineless lib/socialist How is Hitler/Obama doing for you?
daveh69 2 years ago
The military is a government-controlled social program.
A good government guarantees a good military.
a good military does not guarantee a good government unless it is a rightwing dictatorship (which is what all Wingnut Cons deeply crave) And that is not a good government at all.
This is why all good soldiers support a civilian government by the people. The people pay the bills.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug You have not a clue on anything you are saying. You respect no one, you blame everyone for your pathetic life. Grow up I wouldn't want respect from you, just get behind me, hide behind that rock while the mlitary protects your sorry ass, so fuck you and the whore who brough you in this life. You just don't get it. But again hide, because I and many people who believe, which by the way, you are loosing many 71 % dislike the way the fed is going. and is continue to grow
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug It is right in front of you, just open your eyes, Obama and some other dems have stated that they want Government Controled, they want ONE payer, they want socialisd health care. What now you don't believe them? You are watching the wrong news organizations. Most likely the ones which favor and support this person
daveh69 2 years ago
Obama has not mentioned any desire for single payer and he has downplayed the public option, saying it is not necessary for reform.
Most things you enjoy in your life including your VA benefits are "Government controlled" - add bridges, highways, medicare, social security, postal service, schools, firefighters, police, and the US Army.
How is the addition of a "government controlled" health initiative suddenly the worse thing in the world for you?
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug ARe you kidding me, the videos are out there. It is even on the internet. Thats it, you have absolutely nothing worth while to say. Your thoughts are polluted.
Government Controlled Health care DOESN'T WORK wake up. You really can't be this ignorant.
daveh69 2 years ago
Government controlled health care doesn't work? Whatever. Keep trumpeting Faux News.
But what about Government controlled ACCESS to health care which is what this reform is really all about?
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Fox News is not the only place I get my information. You should watch fox and listen to rush. Then may be you will understand the lies you have been told . As far as the VA get off it, you don't even have a clue.
daveh69 2 years ago
Soooo. Is the VA a government controlled program?
Yes or No.
I do listen to Rush. I do not believe his lies.
curedrethug 2 years ago
You have government controlled health care coverage so why can't every other taxpayer? Why can't the taxpayers who supplement your health care coverage have the same thing?
Why?
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Are you kidding, they can. Simple join the military put in your time and you will get what you deserve. Health care is NOT a right. Why don't you just better your self and get a job which offers health care. Get the government out of the health care business and pricess will go down. Allow people the ability to shop for health insurance across state lines. KEEP THE GOVERNMENT out of our lives and things will be better.
daveh69 2 years ago
get the government out of Health care business and prices will go down?
Are you saying we should end your VA coverage, medicare and medicaid?
Health care reform has not been enacted yet so what on earth are you talking about?
crossing state lines will lower prices? LOL!! That's effin priceless.
You really are a nutcase, davey. And I also like "KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES!"
HA HA. The Government is actually keeping your sorry ass alive.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Thank me and all who have served, go back into the basement and SHUT THE @# UP, WHEN YOU HAVE A CLUE AND STOP TALKING with the socialist lies. Then thank me and move on
daveh69 2 years ago
Poor davey,
Repugs always resort to puerile invective and useless whining when they're cornered.
I'll thank the veterans I choose to thank. i don't OWE you anything.
Thank ME for the VA benefits.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Typical lib, your distain fo rthe military is pure low. If you hate this country so much, move to cuba, russia. The US Military is the best out there. You OWE The military and the brave men and woman who serve to keep you sorry ass safe. So go back to your lieing do nothing life and let the brave defend this country against those who wish to do us HARM. Now whining here, just pure facts.
daveh69 2 years ago
I owe a big thank you to my decent, brave uncle who fought in Vietnam and who lost a leg doing so. I respect him as an individual and as a man for answering the the call without fear and for returning with humility and a desire to continue serving his fellow man without fanfare or hubris
You deserve zero respect from me, davey. You're a bloated, ignorant fool and a divisive, hateful embarrassment to all the good people who wear a uniform.
So here's a big FU*K YOU to you, davey.
ENJOY!!
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Hate full, there you go, I disagree with socialism, want what is best for this country, want all man to be free to enjoy life and to get everything they deserve by hard work. You are a fool, coward,. Your house is falling around you and your precious Obama is destroying it.
daveh69 2 years ago
You don't know what Socialism is. The wingnut chatter you hear on Faux News has screwed up your mind.
Your definition of "socialism" includes all the benefits you would never want destroyed and that make your life better and more civilized including your VA coverage - add bridges, highways, medicare, social security, postal service, schools, firefighters, police, and the US Army.
Health care reform is simply part of the progress that began a long time ago and that you currently enjoy.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug funny thing you are becoming more and more alone in your thought. more and more people do NO want this 65% so far and growing
how does it feel to be wrong
daveh69 2 years ago
American voters trust Obama more than Republicans in Congress to handle health care 44 37 percent. - Politico
how does it feel to be irrelevant?
curedrethug 2 years ago
NamchuWangden 2 years ago
@curedrethug Politico, hmm strange because that isn't even close, try 65% would rather vote for a conservative or tea party then a dem. Sorry your lies don't work here
daveh69 2 years ago
Rasmussen poll - 36% of likely voters would prefer the Democrat, 23% the Tea Party candidate, 18% the Republican, and 22% undecided.
2009 - Republican Teaparty candidate soundly defeated in NY 23rd district
Republicans held office for 150 years until Teabagger came along and ruined it.
curedrethug 2 years ago
Answer my question, Mr. I Hate Government Control:
Is the VA a government controlled program?
Yes or No
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug NOPE, the government is for the Military WHO have served this country. What I have with the VA I EARNED. Just because you are a low life looser, doesn't mean you just can have everything for free. This will give the Government control over what you want to do eat drink you name it...... If you want the VA system then join the military.. What is so hard about that.
daveh69 2 years ago
LOL!!!
You believe the VA is not government controlled? LOL!!!
You think healthcare reform is about FREE healthcare?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Man you are unbelievable. Just bloody unbelievable.
Wrong on every count.
What about bridges, highways, postal services, fire departments, police, and US Army.
Are those government controlled?
I'm dying to know.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Postal service, how is that working. roads yea that works good to hu. You are such a dumb fuck, how long does it take to start your hugo
daveh69 2 years ago
Repugs always jump on the Postal Service. HA!
Nothing's perfect. But your LALA LAnd dream to privatize absolutely EVERYTHING is beyond silly and downright moronic.
You say you hate government programs and services but you wouldn't give them up for one second. Especially the ones keeping you healthy and safe.
But you keep on whining and complaining about nothing. The adults have taken charge and there won't be any relief for you for a looong time.
BTW. Our roads are outstanding
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Why do you figure you deserve free medical, maybe a new home. How about a new car. Oh shoot, new home tooooo... This country can not afford Health Insurance for all, name one country where it is working and not destroying the country. You can't honestly, because there isn't any. If you watched FOX you will see both sides, then decide. Other than that go back to your momies house and shut the fuck up
daveh69 2 years ago
Where did I say i deserve free medical?
Health care reform is not about providing free medical, you fu*kin nincompoop!! LOL!!!
How stupid and uninformed are you, seriously? WOW
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug iT IS, according to obama and other dems, they want one payer government. it is out there you just have to take stupid off your eyes to see. I suppose you believe in global warming as well.
daveh69 2 years ago
You confusing what is being proposed with what was being discussed.
You're confusing the realm of possibility with theory and ideals.
The Dems have come to reality. Their Healthcare Reform is greatly compromised. But this is a Democracy and that's how things work in case you didn't know. COMPROMISE.
You Repugs are a bunch of hardliner, hardheaded fascists. Everything has to be absolute but absolutism is not sustainable. Which is why you lose.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Here is the problem, you are so stuck in stupid there is absolutely nothing anyone can say or do to get you to wake up. Believe what you want, you are 100% wrong, I can't nor can anyone else help you. Just how does it feel to be on the wrong side of history and loosing in the public. 36% is not good. Me I would go tea party because the replicans haven't figured it out yet. Conservative is the way to go, and STOP SPEINDING OUR MONEY stop with the social justice crap. Retire GORE
daveh69 2 years ago
36% not good?
Is 23% better, numbskull?
At least you almost admit you pulled that 65% right out of your ass.
Wrong side of History? Man oh MAN!! You don't know what you got coming to you.
Remember NY-23, dummy. That is your fate if you don't come to your senses.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug AS you and others have said, the tea parties and the rep have something in common. If givin the chance they would vote republican. You are pruposely missing the point the dems are in power, the are very low. The tea party is trying to tell the repubs and dems something. STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY. STOP TAXING US TO DEATH. WHAT PART OF THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DUMB SHIT
daveh69 2 years ago
No party has been particularly HIGH since 2000. Bush didn't even win the popular vote.
It's YOU who lost the last election so that should be a message to you. And numbers still are not bending in your direction.
Both Reagan and Clinton were below 50% but they went on to win 2nd terms so all your hoohaa about Obama's poll numbers are basically meaningless.
Too soon to tell anything and there's so much more work to do. So enjoy 3 more years of Whining! LOL!!!
curedrethug 2 years ago
This just out today:
A forthcoming study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concludes that the $1.4 trillion annual deficit run by the government has little to do with current White House policies and much to do with George W. Bush's actions.
"What we have looked at were several major contributors to the deficit: the tax cuts between 2001 and 2003, the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the effects of the recession as well as the legislative response to the recession"
curedrethug 2 years ago
Wow! curedrethug really handed you ass to you davey, I mean , Fuck! You left that argument with him wearing three shoes, Two on your feet and one in your ASS!!!
162berto 2 years ago
@curedrethug look 36 % is good considering they where voted out of office for acting like a bunch of dems. Better yet people voting for the tea party should be a signal to the Repubs to get their fucking act together.
Rep is suppose to be conservative, lower tax's, fiscal responsible. Conservative is suppose to be for freedom of the people and NOT BIGGER GOVERNMENT. They lost there way and hopefully with the tea parties popiing up everywhere they just might.
Obama is helping by destroying
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug Obama is helping by destroying the dems with the far left of the crowd. This country is center right, is now, and will always be. That is a fact of life. This president, nancy and of course reid, taking this country so far left, there won't be a dem party for along time. They are truly showing there true colors and what they want. They want to be like cuba, (Maxine waters), they envy hugo, stalin and the like.
daveh69 2 years ago
davey-
I'm trying to make sense of your babble. Would prefer to ignore you but I feel it is my duty as a fellow citizen to inform you as best I can.
It is the Repugs who are in shambles and closer to extinction. Teabaggers put the party on Self-Destruct.
Ask any true Socialist if Obama, Nancy, and Harry are "far left" and they will laugh you out of the room. They are actually Conservative by any other standard besides your woefully ignorant one.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug This country is so opposed to this they will get the asses handed to them in 2010
daveh69 2 years ago
Over 70% of the country wants health care reform. The Dems will get their asses handed to them if they fail to deliver a robust public option.
Voters will stay home and Repugs will get the leftovers.
You are otherwise deluded. Repugs are currently in the outhouse, crapping all over themselves.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug 80% likes there health care
25% wants the government health care big difference.
Yea sure, the dems are, they can't pass shit. They don't need any republicans, they have 60, they can't get the dems to bow down, why, to many people don't want socialized health care. How can I make this any clearer
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug Yea I due, but it will be stopped, to many people are out and protesting. This is grass roots, this is of the people. No acorn crowd, no union thugs, just ordinary people taking a day off from work to put the likes of you out of business. I will say it again, your budy, the mesia, obama will get his ass handed to him in 2010 and in 2012 if the right conservative comes out of this it will be a land side.
Why support a government that wants to take your freedom away
daveh69 2 years ago
You're confusing Teabagging mobs for some kind of majority movement. I understand the exhilaration of being surrounded by thousands of like-minded people. You feel powerful and invincible.
But reality is far different. You're only affecting the right wing, vilifying moderate voices while elevating extremists. Meanwhile Repugs remain in the 20% and under, divided against themselves.
Until you change your proven failed agenda, you can expect to remain in the wilderness.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug What ever happened to life liberty and the persuit of happiness? Individual freedom. We are not europe but yet that is what the lord (obama) wants, for he is part of the world order and wants to be king of all the land. Just listen to the way he speaks,and look at who he has around him. 2010 he will get knocked out of his thrown and 2012 he will be truly dethrowned
daveh69 2 years ago
Repug "individual freedom" means :
Deny an woman's individual right to choose
Deny civil rights to gay individuals
Deny fair health care choices to individuals and families
Demonize individuals of different races, religions, and classes for political power.
Kill innocent individuals in various countries for nefarious reasons and stick "individual freedom" on it to satisfy Repug zombies.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug Deny a womans right to Kill a child.
Civil rights belongs to everyone, don't lump gay mariage into it. Obama doesn't agree with it either. So how is it a republican thing?
Deny healthcare, hmmm strange, the new health care wouldn't cover 25 million? Health care is out there for everyone.
Demonize individuals of different races, religions and classes. OOOPS you made a mistake, re look at it. Look at what the dems are doing. Lost big time on this.
daveh69 2 years ago
Deny a woman's right to abort a fetus.
it's the Repugs who kill actual children.
Abortions always go DOWN during Democratic administrations anyway.
Obama is not the Liberal Ideal. He may be for you but you don't know your ass from your mouth. Plus he does not spend millions of monetary and political capital campaigning against gays to deny them the basic right to mind their own damn business.
Healthcare is not affordable for everyone due to rationing and price gouging by your corporate masters.
curedrethug 2 years ago
@curedrethug What do you think a fetus is? It is a child, it has all the means for being a child, hence it is a child. All I know is my dick is in your mouth fuck wad. Now you are talking about the church's who have gone way out of the way. ie. the church protesting the military funerals saying something about gays and how the government supports, or some such nonsense.
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug shocker for you, I believe in gays i the military (there already there) and ain't hurting no one. Hmm tail hook scandal wasn't a bunch of gay guys?
anyways, I diegress. I do believe that if a person is gay, that is that persons choice (which I really don't think it is a choice, but part of who they are)
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug You liberal ideal would be Hitler, Chavez, Castro, you want that kind of Goernment move. This country will not allow. We will not allow something like that to bring us down. Obama and the dems are finding that out quickly
daveh69 2 years ago
@curedrethug 62% do NOT want the health care bill. This is not a health care reform, it is a Government take over of health care, which every country has tried and it don't work.
daveh69 2 years ago
Whatever you say, Sparky!
curedrethug 2 years ago
only because the right wing has brainwashed them with bullshit.
most of the people opposed to it would benefit from it.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
you really don't have a clue do you. recheck you facts....Owe right ligs don't have one
daveh69 2 years ago
what the fuck is a "lig"
haha you're 51. Explains a lot.
Luckily your outmoded beliefs will die with you.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
Not even close dink, your won't even go anywhere. You are a typeical lib..... LIB or should I say socialist or are u a marxist, hmmmmm Conservatism will never die, it has been proven each time it is done. Socialism however, has proven time and time again it just doesn't work. What happens when you run out of other peoples money?
OH and by the way...
I AM A DISABLED VET
daveh69 2 years ago
I don't care what your beliefs are Palin is objectively a complete idiot. Even the people in the McCain campaign admitted it after it was all over.
True conservatism (not the neo con bullshit in other words embrassed the GOP right now) is libertarianism, following the constitution, not going into wars without constitutional approval etc.
I'm sorry you're disabled, and that's cool you're a vet, but that doesn't give your opinions any more weight than any other American.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
No your right, my opion is just like a greater number than yours. You are so stuck in your failed idology that you are letting this government, this president destroy this country. We are in a world of hurt with the government just spending money hand over foot. Bush did it repubs where doing it and they lost for it Now the dems are doing it and this country need sto be taken back by honest god fearing people. Or we wont be any better than cuba,russia and will be right along with hugo
daveh69 2 years ago
We need a President that has enough sense to realize god is no more real than santa clause, the green giant, the tooth fairy, the devil, or intelligent christians. Just saying you are christian means you can disconnect from reality and have
"faith" in what you "believe". Child molesters often "believe" little girls are flirting with them. They "believe" the little girls wants to have sex with them, so they should be given room to exercise that belief. Republican = child molester.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
the war thing, sorry you have been proven wrong on that front, however, we need to get conservatism back on track and get rid of the phony want to be. McCain is a starter next
daveh69 2 years ago
how am I "proven wrong" on the war thing, it's not really an opinion. Constitution says you need congressional declaration of war, and it's there for a reason, so one man can't drag a country of 300 million into war for no reason.
As a libertarian I am normally for reduced spending I agree it's out of control but socialized health care is needed, we are behind Costa Rica in ranking. It's ridiculous.
Socialized health care =/= communism. It's a lie from the neocons cause they want 2012.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
@IcyScythe All that has already been looked at, We have the best health care and socialized medicine doesn't work. They will deny you and the elderly, watch out they have a pill for you. At least that is what obama has said many times. You are blind
Health care = socialism, it is a fact. again they want to control yourlife, if that is what you want, move to another country, then they can tell you what to eat and how to live. But not me or many more like minded.
daveh69 2 years ago
It really is nice to see you have learned all the talking points. We currently have a health care system that refuses legal citizens coverage while allowing millions of illegal aliens to use our emergency rooms as doctors offices and not pay a dime. John McCain wants to legalize all 20 million illegals. What do you think will happen to the pay scale for all Americans?? Go to church, shop at walmart, and watch our country descend further. You already took the "pill" Dave. Flouride in water.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@kingachybraky Talking points yea sure what ever, facts are the same, If you need to go to the hospital they will see you, it is the law. As far as illegals, we shouldn't be giving anything away. McCain, I was against legalizing illegals, they are here illegal, what part of that do they not get. I was one of the millions calling to stop this instanity. I work for doctors offices, they don't refuse anyone, getting paid is another subject? So you are taking the pill, I speak from experience
daveh69 2 years ago
@kingachybraky Also, What is wrong with going to church, it helps people stay grounded. With the health care, socilizing it is not the answer, more doctors will retire or just simply quit.
daveh69 2 years ago
Green County, Missouri has over 1200 registered churches. There are only THREE homeless shelters and two of them were not allowed to stay open for christmas because of code violations. What the good christians are telling the homeless is loud and clear, go somewhere else for winter or freeze to death. Big, no huge, new churches with paved, lighted parking lots, but not one new penny for homeless or poor people in this predominantly christian county. Republichristians disgust me to no end.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@kingachybraky YOu mean the dem controlled government didn't want it around hmmmm, look closer it is the same in sf and other cities. Compassion my but. LIbs want power and your money nothing else
daveh69 2 years ago
Boy, you are some kind of hummer, Dave. Church is SOCIALIZING your religion. Religion means "to bind". Look it up in your own concordance. Just because I no longer believe in the great space god does not mean I don't know my bible. I was raised southern baptist until I realized it was the KKK in plain clothes. Our local doctors are "owned" by the local hospitals. They would like to open private practices but can't compete with the hospitals. The hospital makes the profit, not doctors
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@kingachybraky ARe you serious, where do you get your information from. I have plenty of doctors with their own practice. KKK that sucks, should try a real church, they are not all created equal. I really started to go with the catholic church while in the army, then found a church which opens its doors to all. pentecostal.
You are so far off base becuase of your hatred you can't see correctly So many facts out there you are missing.
daveh69 2 years ago
@kingachybraky You will not be able to re define words Instead of Liberal, socialist we should now call you progressive's, socializing is not the same as socialism of the government. IT don't work tried in many areas, calif, mich, cuba, and others it don't work
daveh69 2 years ago
@daveh69 Even after the reforms of the healthcare bill, the US will be left with a system that is more conservative than that of nearly every other industrialised country. In fact, can you name an industrialised country other than the USA that has a healthcare system that you would not regard as socialist?
JDB7484 1 year ago
@JDB7484 If it run by the government it is a socialist system. I tottaly dis agree with. When did it become the governments job? Social Security, medicare, medical all controlled by the government THEY ARE BROKE. With the government running health care we will have the health care of a third world country is that what you want.
daveh69 1 year ago
@daveh69 The healthcare bill did not include a public option or Medicare buy-in. It mainly provides additional regulation and subsidies for private insurance. As to Medicare: Keep in mind that healthcare costs are rising more rapidly in privately funded healthcare than in publicly funded care. You are afraid of moving toward a 3rd world healthcare system, but you ignore the fact that the healthcare system of every other 1st world country is more left-wing than the Democrats' bill.
JDB7484 1 year ago
@JDB7484 Yea, but it has the same effect, it will put the insurance companies out of business. Which in a speach obama gave that is the plan. Healthcare is rising in all sectors. If you cut 25% of medicare reimbursements to doctors. You will have fewer doctors taking seniors. then they go to the government ran health care and like obama said, maybe granny doesn't need that hip replacement. Maybe all she needs is a pill. And you defend this socilist why
daveh69 1 year ago
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superusername 1 year ago
@daveh69 Please don't generalize what doctors do or would do. Conveniently, many are people too.
superusername 1 year ago
@superusername Here is the problem with your answer, my job, I deal with doctors all the time. manyu kinds of doctors. so when a majority won't continue, believe me they won't when I say that medicare this month will cut 20% of remembursement then they will feb 2011 medicare will cut 30% reimbursement there will be less doctors. The only way the government can lower the cost of health care in their eyes, pay less, or don't offer needed operations to people. that is cost control that is obama
daveh69 1 year ago
My brother is severely schizophrenic and suicidally depressed but can't get medical insurance because he has a "pre-existing condition" and is forced to pay thousands out of pocket for treatment. This is the medical healthcare system that the Republicans want to keep, the "die quickly" healthcare system.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
I feel for your brother and wish I or someone can do something. However the republicans want true change. Do you really think that the government will be able to do it. They will deny him, because someone more important will do it better. there are things out their which could help. There are allot of charities? The bigger problem is, the government doesn't have the money and will ration it anyway. you will loose on both accounts. Don't look for government to help. I am willing to help
daveh69 2 years ago
see man I don't get your logic, you seem to oppose socialism in all forms, what do you think a charity is?? Socialism! People putting money in a pool to pay for other people's needs is classic socialism.
whatever, i'm off to bed.
IcyScythe 2 years ago
Charity run by church, money received by people freeely giving, that is not socialism, not in a long shot. These people freely give to an organiztion to help others. Socialism, you are so wrong in so many ways. Wait a minute I have offered you some help???? and a possible way of helping your brother????
Do you even have a brother with the said mentioned problem, or are you just a typical lib/socialist lieing through your pathitic pie hole?????
daveh69 2 years ago
of course I'm not lying why would I lie about something like that that's messed up.
Naw I appreciate it man, but I can't take help from random dudes over the internet, no offense.
Thanks for the unwarranted insults though, real Christ like huh?
IcyScythe 2 years ago
Bascially socialism is using other peoples money to spread the wealth (as obama said) for equal wealth (or something like that) Why won't the president or all those other rich demo crats put there money where their mouth is. They don't care about you,they care about making more money and getting more power over all of us. so they can tell us how to live. is that what you really want> I SURE THE HHH DON'T
I AM DISABLED VET
and will not allow the government to move in that direction.
daveh69 2 years ago
You don't have any say in where the govt' moves. Judging by your inability to spell properly, you have been abused by the republichistians you serve. Public schools did not teach you to be a reasoning thinker. P. S. did not teach you to spell, speak, handle finances, or relationships. Republichristians do not want Americans to realize there is no god or to realize the repugs are not looking our for them. They want them stupid enough to believe in god and country at all costs.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
because I don't rely on the government for crap. Hell they can't even run the dmv correctly. I program in the health care industry and will ask some people on what can be done;. We as americans must stand to gether or we will all fail together. You can send me a littly bit more information (nothing personal) but enough info so I can ask logical questions. Send message to me private
And remember, where their is a will there is always a way
daveh69 2 years ago
ROADS, BRIDGES, AIRPORTS, POLICE, FIRE FIGHTERS, FLOOD CONTROL, ELECTRICITY, SOCIAL SECURITY,
all brought to you by GOVERNMENT. Local or Federal governments were also the creators of most of America's hospitals. Without Government we would have no National Identity and you would not be a disabled vet/war criminal.
GEORGE BUSH did the destroying of this country and assholes like you are too godamn stupid to see beyond black. Please go fuck yourself to death.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@kingachybraky I read your crap and won't comment on all of it. It isn't worth my time. However, there is a GOD and your hatred is extremely mis guided. Rep tried to warn about freddy and the other. They all defended that. I didn't agree with the repulicans spending all the money either. I am a christian, conservative but above all i am an American.
How is that hope and change, this president is changing this country to a socialist environment. Nove you loose and true conservatism will
daveh69 2 years ago
Typical republichristian lier, huh Dave? Prove there is a god. I don't hate you for believing in god. If anything, I pity you and all the other gullible, juvenile, uneducated, minority individuals unable to stand on their own two feet. Quit blaming god for your failures and accomplishments. If you did something good, claim it for yourself. Your self esteem will be improved and you will not enjoy a murderous president in the future.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@kingachybraky fix this mess and get the crooks out. Look at all the dems who are crooks working for this white house and the entire federal government. Dodd, wrangle, franks, palosi, reid and the list goes on. Get a clue because tuesday will be a very interesting day.
YOU LOOSE, socialism doesn't work all they want is control of your life
daveh69 2 years ago
Dave, Dave, Dave, Loose is how I wear my clothes. Loose is not a noun, it describes something like your brain. As in: your tiny brain has come loose and is rolling around in your oversized head.
Rattling off all the Democratic names you can remember and calling them crooks does not explain why you back a president that attacked another country and murdered tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. You people are just as guilty of murder.. Murders, rapist, child molesters = republichristians
kingachybraky 2 years ago
You mean John McCain, one of the Keating Five?? Didn't Johnny get over $100,000.00 payoff while millions of Americans got ripped off by the Savings and Loans. The govt. bailed the Saving & Loans out twenty years ago. That was the test drive for this last ripoff, also brought on by republicunts. The republichristian way is "all for us, none for you". Just saying you are republican does not make you one of the "us". Just a fool.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
@curedrethug 2d
Kill innocent? googed again.
Taliban, killing individual with bombs, including kids. Killing just them selves for what. You are so backward on this it is down right shamefull
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
Our military is out there to protect those who want freedom against the likes of Sadam and his low life (DEAD) sons. Where were you when they were raping and killing at will
daveh69 2 years ago
davey -
Why don't we invade every bad nation on the planet? You think Sadaam was the worst?
Wingnut Cons don't know how to fight wars. You go in unprepared and full of sh*t.
Sadaam coulda been defeated without killing thousands of young Americans. Unfortunately, you people were too bloodthirsty, incompetent and arrogant to do it right.
I supported the fight against the Taliban. But Bush/Cheney dropped the ball for 8 long years. Totally ignored Afghanistan.
Now it may be too late but we'll see.
curedrethug 2 years ago
LMAO!!!
162berto 2 years ago
@162berto explain with detail if you can
daveh69 2 years ago
You all are wrong. Carter., Bush, (1 & 2) even Clinton to the newest Obama is all political puppets.(1967) Do u really think or believe any one of them makes decisons? Be very sure they don't. They answer to a much higher (secret) power than any of u can imagine. Really, they are just men who has sold them selves for a title & the oh mighty $ Dont be ignorant folks stop saying he did she did & start investigating more NWO & illuminate u dumb apes. stop letting them fu** ur minds. wake UP & READ
soledadhh 2 years ago
hey ugboy1, no matter what proof is out there you will never believe, you will go lock step with your party, your socialist party. THis country and the Conservative Repubilcans believe in individual freedom. Just don't say anything at all, unless you have a thought with evidence behind you, other than that just shut up.
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY.
Because I know you libs/socialist hate this
daveh69 2 years ago
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curedrethug 2 years ago
"THis country and the Conservative Repubilcans believe in individual freedom."
The Cons care about individual freedom now, huh? Is that why they ramroded the (un)Patriot(ic) Act through Congress and why Bush Co repeatedly violated FISA?
It's the Republicons who hate soldiers and veterans. They sent you off to fight in a bullshit war in Iraq, wouldn't sent the appropriate equipment, and then voted to cut VA funding that will care for disabled vets like you! Thank you for your sacrifice.
kaysandesses 2 years ago
Why argue with these Repug neanderthal nitwits about birth certificates?
Every time they bring it up they dig themselves deeper into the hole they're already in.
Just keep your eye on them because they are amoral, treacherous and dirty.
They're only interested in power and control and will stop at nothing to get it.
Fortunately, this absurd Birther crap will not succeed at overthrowing our duly elected President.
So let them keep chewing at that bit until they're toothless.
curedrethug 2 years ago 3
"Why argue with these Repug neanderthal nitwits about birth certificates?"
The Repug/wingnut/neanderthals think Obama's birth certificate is invalid because they've never seen one where the mother and father have different last names.
kaysandesses 2 years ago 3
Why argue with idiot libs, they don't believe in anything but their own miss guided bs. Like Glen Beck Said arguing with idiots. People can show you facts and you will dismiss by calling the messanger names. But you won't show how the facts are wrong, or answer simple quesitons with facts. LIbs are useless and becoming an extinct bunch
daveh69 2 years ago
Yet, judging from your million posts, you seem to have NO LIFE outside of arguing with "libs".
Oh, and keep up with the projecting Repug failure and self-destruction - "useless and becoming extinct". HA!
Good one
curedrethug 2 years ago
If Sarah, Plain and Dumb wants to make Obama's place of birth an issue - let's make her old man's membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party an issue where she also attended meetings.
watch?v=U5m_0tMtMm4
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago 4
Actually place of birth is an issue as per the U.S. Constitution requirement of natural born citizenship status, born on U.S. soil, sovereign to our laws.
Likewise, the 2 American parent issue....It's not suprise than that Zero, the first Prez with ONE FOREIGN PARENT at the time of his birth (Chester Arthur later discovered to have lied) bows to foreign leaders. It's called allegiances, which have been written about by the Founding Fathers, SCOTUS cases...
MsPaulRevere 2 years ago
So that's Barry's first problem, which SCOTUS should fully rule on, but won't;
The other we don't know where Barry was born, no conspiracy. We don't even know what hospital. Can Barry tell us where he was born? No.
Thus is the purpose of Medical Doctors, Nurses, Midwives and Registrars, acting as "Certifying Officials" of a birth, to ensure the integrity or chain of evidence of the birth certificate to be properly recorded within Vital Statistics archives, and that's on a long form b.c.
MsPaulRevere 2 years ago
You have issues, girlfriend. It is sad and pathetic that you and your ilk just cannot get over the fact that a non-white person is now POTUS.
Go spend time investigating George Bush's National Guard records and his AWOL if you're so hung up on doing in a Prez.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago 2
Typical race baiting and WE'RE BACK TO BUSH! ha ha. Could it be that your messiah is an empty suit that hasn't run a hotdog stand? I think so, i know it's hard for you Obot.
And you still can't handle Zero's nondisclosure, I'm sending you some links about your messiah, you will know fear, and you may actually start thinking about allegiance to the U.S. constitution and not based on skin color bigot.
MsPaulRevere 2 years ago
Did you enjoy the 7 links from African press stating KENYAN BORN OBAMA?
Wow, the conspiracy deepens Sabu.
That's why we need the CRAZY AND NUTTY long form, which you Obots can't seem to deal with. No conspiracy, common sense. But Barry's got lots to lose! Yep
MsPaulRevere 2 years ago
@MsPaulRevere You guys are nuts or what? Obama SHOWED his birth certificate! How many times must he show it? He can show it 10 times to the 10 power and it still WOULD NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH for you kooks and you know why? And here it comes because of your RACISM! You'll NEVER ACCEPT A BLACK AS PRESIDENT! Now go ahead and accuse me of pulling a race card! (Is this card like Visa?) In your warped "minds" its never about racism.Death threats against a U.S. president WENT UP 400% with Obama! Racism!
Torqem 2 years ago 2
@SabuPtolemy stop watching msnbc, theat was proven false and fabricated. You simpleton
daveh69 2 years ago
if it's so stupid, then why are these assholes talking about it? and for the record, MIKA is a sorry cunt.
mdjbm 2 years ago
How many laws will go unenforced in this country? There is the LOGAN ACT, and if it were enforced, we wouldn't have groups like CFR, TRILATERAL COMMISSION, BILDERBERG, G-WHATEVER NUMBER, even that Bohemian Grove crap, in which elite discuss politics relating to you and I.
It's now PROVEN that "climate change" is hijacked environmentalism for an IMF/UN SCAM. Multi trillion dollar question; WHO IS BEHIND ALSHILL GORE, and the CARBON WALLSTEET in Chicago?
WATER BOARDING WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
bigc028282 2 years ago
when I see the word "shill" in a post, especially in all caps, I think, oh, a teabagger or an imbecile. Or both.
They've got a conspiracy to explain everything.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago 3
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bigc028282 2 years ago
What a small world you live in to believe everything you think is true. Humanity is much more complex than the hollywood-esque conspiracies that enrage you to such a pathetic end, more complex than is ever even possible within these groups.
LifeinaRaindrop 2 years ago 2
I always check accounts,looking for credibility in the post. Now watch you post to me again, after I don't post to you directly; because your TROLLING and SHILLING LIES.
I bet your a "climate gate" denier as well; even though Congress is having to deal with the PROVEN IMF/UM SCAM that reaches to those behind ASSHILL GORE, and those behind the CARBON CREDIT/ WALLSTREET IN Chicago.
I am looking forward to that MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR question as well.
IDIOT
bigc028282 2 years ago
go to bigc028282's channel to see another right wing fundamentalist fascist bigot a.k.a republican/conservative/christian........don't worry we aren't surprised that there are neo-nazis on youtube, you were always going to get round to spreading your hate here as well, Hitler worshipper.
ugboy1 2 years ago
recompile, ANOTHER IDIOT USING A TROLL/SHILL ACCOUNT FOR SOMETHING HE CARES SO MUCH FOR.
Click a name, and find the TROLL/SHILL
bigc028282 2 years ago
so remove the crisis creator by proving his non-citizenship. PROBLEM SOLVED. HELLO
sinsaregone 2 years ago
Palin has the political compass of a garden hose-- Sarah gets wetter than her daughter......
mintvagoo 2 years ago 3
My recommendation to conservatives is to become educated. And you might want to turn off your TV while getting educated.
paidglennbecktroll 2 years ago 5
@paidglennbecktroll No but dem edumuhcated folks ah always lib-ral wit der lib-ral arts.
MachShot1337 2 years ago
So, what do you guys think about Trig Palin's birth certificate?
MooseOfReason 2 years ago
2d post Is there something to hide?
WHy not just show it.
OUR CONSTITUTION IS SOMETHING TO DEFEND AND UPHOLD. Which these elected officials swore to do?
So instead of being typical liberals, socialist want a bees, and calling everyone names.. Prove the so called birthers wrong?
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
daveh69 2 years ago
@daveh69
Apparently you haven't been paying attention. Obama released his birth certificate a long time ago.
Just this past July: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."
Republican governor Linda Lingle also verified it.
It's time the birthers just accepted the truth.
recompile 2 years ago 5
@recompile I wish it were that easy.
"No, thats all part of the scheme of the Mason/Jews/Illuminati to hide the fact he was from Kenya."
It's almost like Fundamentalism. Decry the mountain of evidence and logic that says otherwise but near worship someone's doctored Kenyan birth certificate made in Microsoft Works.
MachShot1337 2 years ago
@recompile It was found to be a fake, and it wasn't the correct birth certificate showing he was born in that state.
All I am saying, why spend 1.2mil bucks to keep your birth certificate away from anyone seeing. McCain showed his, Obama keeps spending money to hide?
why
daveh69 2 years ago
I think you're confused. The birth certificate that Obama presented was found to be genuine. It's been verified by numerous independent groups.
The only fake certificate was the photoshopped Kenyan one that Orly Taits was pushing -- The guy who made it based it on an Australian birth certificate available online.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts? Obama showed his birth certificate. Hawaiian officials have confirmed it. What more do you want?
recompile 2 years ago
@recompile Not confused, I don't understand why someone would spend millions of dollars and not produce a simple document.. And what you are saying is not Exactly accurate. Just answer the simple question, why not just product the sucker and the entire things would be put to rest, why spend millions to hide something. I wasn't part of this thing in the first place, but they have a valid point. Produce the document
daveh69 2 years ago
To be honest, nothing will satisfy the birthers, even if Jesus himself delivered Obama's birth certificate to them, they would still reject it as doctored. The Governor and the Director of the Hawaii Sate Department of Health verified, from viewing his birth records, that they were genuine and that Obama was born in Hawaii. Palinbots/Becktrolls/Teabaggers/Birthers sound like angry white fundamentalists who can't understand how are black man got elected.
ugboy1 2 years ago
Crasier is electing someone who is NOT a Born Citizen of the United States. If you keep dodging the question then the question starts to pick up more people. 1.7 million to hide the birth certificate,
WHY?
daveh69 2 years ago
You are contributing to the downfall of man if you support this woman.
This is not a left or right issue. This is a IQ above 85 issue, which I would be hard pressed to honestly believe Sarah Palin surpasses.
MachShot1337 2 years ago 2
@MachShot1337 See here is the problem, you are a typical lib/socialist. Nothing but a name calling bafoon. You can't even come up with anything that she has said which is totally wrong.
The real truth, you are afraid of her, because your socialist utopia is going down.
Palin all the way, watching/listening to your kind is a bonus
I AM A DISABLED VET
AND PROUD TO SAY
daveh69 2 years ago
@daveh69 What socialist utopia? You think a healthcare bill no matter how poorly planed is the magical bridge to the USSR?
I'm not a socialist, i actually lean right on economics, but for God's sake all I ask is for a relatively smart person on the other end. If Obama turns out to be a failure, Id rather have Huckabee as the alternative. He has that "folksy" charm Sarah fans love, but also has real experience and economic policy to boot. This is the presidency, not American Idol.
MachShot1337 2 years ago