Well Ray was no slouch when he HAD his voice,now his voice is LOST possibly due to a smoking bindge he had back in the 80's.TOO bad,to my perception,he actually was able to somewhat clear his lungs and be able to reach somewhat medium range notes now with his voice.But he can NEVER-EVER sing songs like,"Silent Cries" and others from their NO EXIT album.Don't even say he can, HE CAN'T period!!He now sings songs like "ONE" and others that don't strain his lungs as much!!
I think that Fates and John were bound to separate since he had wife and a family. Sure they fired a unique voice in metal, but it's never like that at the time.
John Arch was indeed let go, he didn't quit. I don't know where that story came from but I read an interview with him and he said that Fates gave him the option to quit his day job as a sign of his commitment, or else. He didn't and Fates met behind closed doors and decided he was out. That's the story straight from John's mouth. Worst move Fates ever made in my opinion. Ray is a nice singer and no slouch, but John was among the most unique and gifted vocalists of all metaldom. Period!
FATES WARNING was the Best Back when John Arch was in the band...... then after that they lost their Metal groove and lost me forever.... Long live the Voice of John Arch !!
This is the real fates warning.John Arch+killer band= great metal.
i grew up in San Antonio Texas and thanks to the Godfather Joe Anthony and underground tape trading in the 80s we were able to listen to them before they made it big.it was only a matter of time anyway.i only listen to the old stuff,but i think the singer that replaced John was from San Antonio....just confirming my conviction that ;
OMG the Spectre Within is an awesome album that can bring tears. Love the good 80's metal. another great band of this era was Chicago's "Sacred Steel". They have their 1984 demo on facebook.
@oooooooooorly Well , your wish and desire has come true my friend.Jim Matheos jsut joined once again with John Arch and released their album named: ARCH/MATHEOS(2011) NOW you can go and grab yourself a copy!!It is considered by many the best album of the YEAR!!They just put up a live studio video You Tube as well!!Peace!
This band was so much better at this time. So magical was the music, Everytime i hear it , it sends chills. Also, I have to give kudas to john and his mythos, he is one of te best song writers ever.
Another video out with Arch! Awesome, kudos to you gastmeier. ^^, By the way, Gomer, his tone is exactly the reason why me and others prefer John Arch.
Amazing performance... and sadly, Arch is one of the most underrated metal singers of all time... in my opinion, the only one who could compete with Arch was Geoff Tate. But I really can't decide who's the best. Still, I kneel in front of their talent.
He was a bit older than the others and had a family. The band perceived his commitment to the band would be sketchy, though he claimed to have never caused an issue and been a good band member in regards to showing up & being responsible.
John Arch works as a cabinet-maker in New Jersey now. He did release a 2004-ish "solo" album with Mateos and Portnoy (?) that's worth checking out but not as good as his early Fates Warning stuff.
hes always been my fav Fates Warning singer....almost my favorite singer ever actually....Awaken The Guardian was perfect....EVERY song on there was fucking perfect.
Is this available? Is it your source or a boot? OH GAWD...do you have 'TRAVELLER IN TIME' from this show?!? This is too good. I can't thank you enough.
OMG where did this footage come from? Spectre and Awaken are two of my all time fave cds. Nice to see others out there that feel the same. This is AMAZING STUFF! SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE!!!
You either get these guys or you dont and unfortunately not alot of people were into them or this kind of music back then. Too bad, this cd and awaken the guardian are amazing to say the least
It's too bad this audience didn't realize they were seeing the one and only John Arch and after only one more album they would never have that chance again.
Those albums with Johnny Arch.. Highest Caliber of Metal ever. They were way ahead of their time. Honestly they deserved a higher level of recognition with that lineup. Too bad the evil force of prog took over after Johnny left.
I grew up in CT and saw these guys a lot too. They were my favs back in the 80's. Cool what you can find on youtube besides booty vids..hahahahehehehe. Redneck capitol of the states John??? every state has its regions i guess. just moved back here from Cali and damnit, people still rock mullets in this town!! Gotta love the east coast
You lucky S.O.B. that must've been amazing! I 1st got into F.W. on "Awaken the Guardian" in 86'... then proceeded to get ALL my friends into em'! Good times!
Melhor banda de heavy progressivo de todos os tempos!!!!
REVOLT2611 1 month ago
Well Ray was no slouch when he HAD his voice,now his voice is LOST possibly due to a smoking bindge he had back in the 80's.TOO bad,to my perception,he actually was able to somewhat clear his lungs and be able to reach somewhat medium range notes now with his voice.But he can NEVER-EVER sing songs like,"Silent Cries" and others from their NO EXIT album.Don't even say he can, HE CAN'T period!!He now sings songs like "ONE" and others that don't strain his lungs as much!!
jackmarsilva 3 months ago
John Arch's vocals are legen- wait for it....... dary!
REXxMaskimus 3 months ago
a big fan since 1984. John Arch is marvelous,he,s the best singer ever! a big hello,from metal singer A THE V from Holland.
kreator217 4 months ago
I think that Fates and John were bound to separate since he had wife and a family. Sure they fired a unique voice in metal, but it's never like that at the time.
Methrt3 6 months ago
I was at this show! Blondie's reopened up a few years ago.
buddya01 6 months ago in playlist FATES WARNING
John Arch was indeed let go, he didn't quit. I don't know where that story came from but I read an interview with him and he said that Fates gave him the option to quit his day job as a sign of his commitment, or else. He didn't and Fates met behind closed doors and decided he was out. That's the story straight from John's mouth. Worst move Fates ever made in my opinion. Ray is a nice singer and no slouch, but John was among the most unique and gifted vocalists of all metaldom. Period!
3jewell 6 months ago
FATES WARNING was the Best Back when John Arch was in the band...... then after that they lost their Metal groove and lost me forever.... Long live the Voice of John Arch !!
ctpmark 7 months ago in playlist Fates Warning:1984-1988
3:04 Oh my dear god. He's the greatest prog metal singer in the world ever. So glad he's making music again.
gtrnflames 7 months ago
Now listen up youngn's...THIS IS FUCKING METAL!!!! Now get off my lawn! Almost 30 years later, and this still kicks ass!
rfengr00 9 months ago 3
@rfengr00 i'm going to find your lawn and i'm never going to move
TheEternalEnigma 9 months ago
this was a great show, and yes, some of us had a clue back then....LOL
Musiclogic 9 months ago
Vocal performance is out of this world....
eb20675 11 months ago
John Arch wasn't fired, he quit. Hated touring. :(
klm607 1 year ago
I still can't believe that Fates Warning fired this incredible singer back then!
maideniac69 1 year ago
@maideniac69 - John Arch wasn't fired, he quit. Hated touring. :(
klm607 1 year ago
Molletta alle palle?Mah!!!!
snupoxxx 1 year ago
John Arch rules!!!!!!
JikkySeff 1 year ago 3
@JikkySeff sorry Ray Alder ruled and still does
paulkeefer529 1 year ago
fuckin hell what a voice johno had, would love to have a voice like him or at least know if he had any training to sing like that
joshmattg 1 year ago
@joshmattg practice by singing along!
TheEternalEnigma 1 year ago
@TheEternalEnigma fuck that will be pretty horrific haha
joshmattg 1 year ago
This is the real fates warning.John Arch+killer band= great metal.
i grew up in San Antonio Texas and thanks to the Godfather Joe Anthony and underground tape trading in the 80s we were able to listen to them before they made it big.it was only a matter of time anyway.i only listen to the old stuff,but i think the singer that replaced John was from San Antonio....just confirming my conviction that ;
FATES WARNING FUCKING ROCKS FOREVER AND EVER
AND THEY ALLWAYS GET BIG LOVE FROM TEXAS!!
3lullabies 1 year ago
holy shit my dad used to play 4 this band
nite224 1 year ago
Fucking Sweet Shit I was there \m/
PPCBEANZ 1 year ago 2
OMG the Spectre Within is an awesome album that can bring tears. Love the good 80's metal. another great band of this era was Chicago's "Sacred Steel". They have their 1984 demo on facebook.
philcore 1 year ago
I'm amazed Arch could pull this off so well live. Utterly amazing vocalist, he really needs to come back to heavy metal.
oooooooooorly 1 year ago 8
@oooooooooorly Well , your wish and desire has come true my friend.Jim Matheos jsut joined once again with John Arch and released their album named: ARCH/MATHEOS(2011) NOW you can go and grab yourself a copy!!It is considered by many the best album of the YEAR!!They just put up a live studio video You Tube as well!!Peace!
jackmarsilva 3 months ago
This band was so much better at this time. So magical was the music, Everytime i hear it , it sends chills. Also, I have to give kudas to john and his mythos, he is one of te best song writers ever.
Sirtehndeth 1 year ago
RESPECT !!!
WinterCrescentBand 1 year ago
Another video out with Arch! Awesome, kudos to you gastmeier. ^^, By the way, Gomer, his tone is exactly the reason why me and others prefer John Arch.
REXxMaskimus 1 year ago
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REXxMaskimus 1 year ago
MAGIC!!!!!!!!!
fede7769 1 year ago
Timeless masterpiece. Pay attention to the lyrics.
LLeft 1 year ago
Huge Arch, and simple guy!
TheAndaleclub 1 year ago
Impressive band at this time. They deserved more audience but they gained respect!
TheAndaleclub 1 year ago
SweetSweetSweet!!!
creamcheese65 2 years ago
John Arch Rocks !!! Encore.....
BCFresh 2 years ago
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LOL Arch looks like Gary Moore here :)
By the way, i don't like his singing much. his singing is too monotonous for me. and his tone sounds lil bit funny :) IMHO
I like Alder's singing more than Arch's.
GomerSexual 2 years ago
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GomerSexual 2 years ago
Amazing!
sonic540 2 years ago
Amazing performance... and sadly, Arch is one of the most underrated metal singers of all time... in my opinion, the only one who could compete with Arch was Geoff Tate. But I really can't decide who's the best. Still, I kneel in front of their talent.
Abisso666 2 years ago 8
John Arch the best!!!...amazing vocals
athrios1 2 years ago 3
ese loko cantaba terrible bien wn
sinnersx1 2 years ago
i prefer joe dibiase on bass over joey vera
TokaCola 2 years ago 3
If you people don't know that ...that is John Arch you should just give up!! LOL...
thealleykid 2 years ago 2
wtf is this? is this before john arch?
coffinfeeder2007 2 years ago
there was no before John Arch. if this ain't Arch, it's Alder
sickspastic 2 years ago
i commented before viewing that vid. that IS John Arch
sickspastic 2 years ago 2
that is John Arch
hadd13 2 years ago 2
Awesome performance.
DrVelvetProductions 2 years ago 2
Why the heck would the band have kicked John Arch out of the group?! It doesn't make sense.
arroyomusic 2 years ago 2
He was a bit older than the others and had a family. The band perceived his commitment to the band would be sketchy, though he claimed to have never caused an issue and been a good band member in regards to showing up & being responsible.
maofas 2 years ago
John Arch works as a cabinet-maker in New Jersey now. He did release a 2004-ish "solo" album with Mateos and Portnoy (?) that's worth checking out but not as good as his early Fates Warning stuff.
maofas 2 years ago
do you now what town in jersey, thanks
jdu6 2 years ago
Sorry but John Arch works for John Watts Associates making custom cabinets in Hartford, Connecticut.
Not New Jersey.
68nevets68 2 years ago
Whoops, New Jersey, Connecticut, same difference!!!
maofas 2 years ago
outstanding! Thanx for posting!
scales1020 2 years ago
Fates Warning GREAT!!!!!John Arch RULES!!!!
pasteell 2 years ago 3
uh no, Ray Alder did rule
octaves4 2 years ago 2
Fates Warning is the shit
PPCBEANZ 2 years ago
Arch has an incredible voice.
NeutronBalm 2 years ago 3
Amazing song,amazing live,amazing John Arch..!!!!
Ieronymous 2 years ago 2
newington ct yeaaa boy
mafioso1313 2 years ago
great video! today is the first i've ever seen live footage of fates with arch. the quality of this vid is awesome. thanks so much for sharing it.
housethegrate 2 years ago
goddamn i fucking love John Arch so much.
hes always been my fav Fates Warning singer....almost my favorite singer ever actually....Awaken The Guardian was perfect....EVERY song on there was fucking perfect.
nathantim 2 years ago 2
fucking
DrVelvetProductions 2 years ago
John Arch RULES!
Lengsel7 2 years ago 2
FATES WARNING IS FROM CT>???????
guitarTy345 2 years ago
You didn't know that?
Lengsel7 2 years ago
Progressive metal masterpiece. Something Dream Theater can never make
Amebixfan 2 years ago 2
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mestredigital2 2 years ago 2
I have had the audio of this bootleg for about ten years.. I've never expected to see it on video!!
Prosciutto14 2 years ago
John Arch is a god.
bloogle 2 years ago 2
holy shit, great quality, this shit is like 30 years old, I never seen John w/hair!!!
octaves4 2 years ago 2
oh man, old school. fucking awesome, Jim and John are so awesome.
metallicafan32 2 years ago
Check out original fates guitarist Vic, playing bass with CT band SiniS-Gally.
batman064 2 years ago
Sorry....just type in sinisgally ally cat
batman064 2 years ago
sorry again...Just type sinisgally.
Its at the allycat in CT in 1988
batman064 2 years ago
Orphan Gypsy,
The Spectre Within'
John Arch and Fates Warning
Fucking Rule!!!!!!!
Old School Metal Rules!!!!!!
removetube 2 years ago 3
Is this available? Is it your source or a boot? OH GAWD...do you have 'TRAVELLER IN TIME' from this show?!? This is too good. I can't thank you enough.
therealhitman 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this live footage :-) It's sure hard to find anything that is live and also sounds Not Too Bad. :-)
FreedomSector 2 years ago
Man, this takes me back.
Lengsel7 2 years ago 2
OMG where did this footage come from? Spectre and Awaken are two of my all time fave cds. Nice to see others out there that feel the same. This is AMAZING STUFF! SHOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE!!!
GWILLYKERS 3 years ago 3
You either get these guys or you dont and unfortunately not alot of people were into them or this kind of music back then. Too bad, this cd and awaken the guardian are amazing to say the least
shadeofgrey07 3 years ago
The crowd is going crazy!!!
VoxBox2000 3 years ago
It's too bad this audience didn't realize they were seeing the one and only John Arch and after only one more album they would never have that chance again.
blakat99 3 years ago 2
Amazing.
sonic540 3 years ago
this guy has some of the best pipes metal has ever heard. is this guy doing anything now?
bigfoothowl 3 years ago
He did a 2-song E.P called Twist Of Fate in 2003 but nothing since that, or between that and his departure from Fates Warning.
axisundone 3 years ago 2
Saw these guys in 1987 with Sanctuary.
carcosa 3 years ago 2
He is better then alder in voice and lyrics.
TKDintraining 3 years ago 4
great singer...great band!!!
marceloyakko 3 years ago 5
Conneticut is the redneck capital of the U.S?
Huh?
stormriderWI 3 years ago
just kidding ;)
ThyFadingDirge 3 years ago
did you record this?!?!!? i have the dvd of a show in new york and the sound quality is terrible.
how/where did you get this footage?!?
borizh 3 years ago
i have that same video but horrible quality
jlbroich 3 years ago
Holy fuck, these people had no idea what they were getting at the time. I wish I were there.
darkartproductions 3 years ago 20
man, i wished arch joined fw again
borizh 3 years ago 3
FW died when John left in 1987.
PhoenixJasmine 3 years ago 8
oh my fuck.this song is so amazing and they play it in a great way. Fates Warning did it ONCE more time... that 'fate' thing..
LefterisDelirium 3 years ago
is it me or is arch a little drunk
jlbroich 3 years ago
Yes great quality for the ages. Does this band not sound freakin' awesome.
metalnjazz 3 years ago
This is frellin' nice..I'm 46 now and still have my "Spectre Within" t-shirt. Early FW were incredible indeed.
mortuary3 3 years ago
really i have the night on brocken t-shirt i got it seeing them live with accept and motorhead now thats one kick ass concert
jlbroich 3 years ago 2
this is/was a buried treasure
metalparasiempre 3 years ago
Ahh, memories! This brings me way back...I love seeing this stuff!
fella77 3 years ago
If you are a fan of early Fates Warning these three videos of yours are absolutely amazing little gems. Thanks for posting.
DogHouse2006 3 years ago 12
Pure gold.
fates5896 3 years ago 4
JOHN ARCH = GOD .
johnnyteres 3 years ago 3
cbillljones... I totally agree with you. the quality is fucking awsome. the sound, video. for this time period, it's great!!!!
supermarr1 3 years ago
Wow, im in awe at the quality of this, grats man - best thing ive seen on this interweb yet :D
cbilljones 4 years ago 2
OMFG Pinch me, this, as far as i knew, does not exist.
cbilljones 4 years ago
Those albums with Johnny Arch.. Highest Caliber of Metal ever. They were way ahead of their time. Honestly they deserved a higher level of recognition with that lineup. Too bad the evil force of prog took over after Johnny left.
Heathenspirit 4 years ago 3
All their albums minus the first are Prog dude
Amebixfan 2 years ago
great stuff having grown up and gotten to see the oringinal band in connecticut this video is a great find post more
Aloud1 4 years ago 2
I grew up in CT and saw these guys a lot too. They were my favs back in the 80's. Cool what you can find on youtube besides booty vids..hahahahehehehe. Redneck capitol of the states John??? every state has its regions i guess. just moved back here from Cali and damnit, people still rock mullets in this town!! Gotta love the east coast
toobarific 3 years ago
You lucky S.O.B. that must've been amazing! I 1st got into F.W. on "Awaken the Guardian" in 86'... then proceeded to get ALL my friends into em'! Good times!
klm607 3 years ago
If you have anymore from this show, can you PLEASE Post!!!
removetube 4 years ago 3
THE SPECTRE WITHIN is one of the best metal ablums ever.
removetube 4 years ago 4
freaking great he really needs to come back fully into a band. even if its just the band from Twist of fate LP
RoccoMATION 4 years ago
oh hell yeah
shadeofgrey07 4 years ago 2