Women's Liberation, Feminist movement & Islam

[Liberator27]

For some reasons unknown, islamists fright nothing more than the sight of even lightly uncovered women. Add that homosexuality is a sin in islam and you have a real contradiction, at least in my eyes ;-)

[MichaelSizer]

OMG the strawmen make my head hurt. It has nothing to do with praising a specific goal you ignorant misogynist, it has to do with letting the women decide for themselves. Holy shit this is a load of sickening stupidity. "...taking women away from their nature"? What a jackass.

[Trust1003]

I see where he is coming from,but he is not looking at the real issues within our communities.Why is he not talking about the responsibilities of muslim men?Yet expect us to carry the full burden.Things are not black and white!My family depends on my income,and the more these men run around and take up wives the larger my responsibility is to my younger generation.Im a super business woman just like my rolemodel Khadija may God be pleased with her!These men are too one sided, gives me a headache

[Fabmuxgrlxxx]

Women women women that's all I hear imams preach about how about explaining how the men Muslim and nonmuslims are corrupted and stop painting women to be this corrupted creature who's corrupting others this is why I hate Muslim men and I'm a young Muslim female . I'll start making videos myself about Muslim men hopefully you guys could climb down your soap boxes open your fat ears and check yourselves for a change and stop stating as if women are the cause of your problems control your desires.

[sardanapolis]

Muslims are the new Puritans

[64andes]

these guys hate free women and they know it. if western society is so evil F#CK OFF and go and live in a backward islamic country.

[barbaras1948]

men are so retarded. always looking outward for the problem instead of inward.

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[barbaras1948]

I am not a fucking nun. I do not need a scarf. i do not need some retarded man to control my life. as for god he can fuck himself to.

[cherish933]

@barbaras1948  you do realise this is intended for muslim women.

[barbaras1948]

Muslim women have no choices. I see little girls with scarf on. not by choice.

They are taught this.

doesn't make it right.

[MsJudgejudy]

Interestingly the apartheid rulers in South Africa used to say the very same thing about whites and blacks. Those old Boers would say, black people in South Africa are not segregated, they simply live separately. Women’s lot in Western patriarchy may not be easy, but these men follow the same rules as any politician, blame others to avert scrutiny of problems closer to home. The sad fact is that in their reading of Islam, women are only equal to men for punishment, not for privilege.

[GTCism]

Islam and feminism have the same author, satan.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You say 'pervert' like it's a bad thing. Sex is healthy and natural. Grow up!

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You're lying (to yourself).

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 LOL

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 One interesting perspective?

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 So you're a whore, and this makes me bad or mad? People wont buy it. They're not as stupid as you hope.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 I haven't received any info from you - just conformist drivel. Only 18, but you've already put your brain out to pasture.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 My point is, I will judge you on the way you behave, and at the moment, you're doing nothing, on any level - except the oldest and least sophisticated level. You're like a cardboard cut out of what your religion tells you to be. Tell me one interesting thing about yourself.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 My theory appears to be giving you food for thought. Tell me something I haven't heard before though.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 I've already explained why you're currently a whore.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Stop haggling over money!

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 If you think orgasms are disgusting, then you've clearly never had one. Muslim men are not going to be very good at giving you orgasms, because they are 'pussy beggars' - and desperation is not sexually attractive to women. In the words of Frank Zappa "You can keep your cheap aromas, and your Little Bo Peep diplomas, I'm gonna put you in a coma with some dirty love - but your not going to be getting any from me, because you are not mentally mature enough.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 So you're refusing a lie detector. What a surprise!

[tom181071]

"We love each other. That will be £12.50 please."



[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Lie detectors will prove it. That's a Jeremy Kyle show I'd watch.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 "sorry I wont become your whore"? I bet your very sorry about it. Every time your future husband hands over some housekeeping money, just remember to keep the fake orgasms coming. Women's sexual arousal is involuntary. When men pay, it signals to the woman that the man is not worth it - not of equal sexual value or capability - which is why he is paying, so orgasmlessness (for you) becomes inevitable. If he has the self-respect to make you pay half, he makes you orgasm too ;)

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 - It's all very well for tent dwellers to be taken in by that sort of thing, but you have had too much education, and therefor know too much to actually believe in god. Post a video of you passing a lie detector on the subject.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Muslim cultures have the most female economic inactivity - by far.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You are a whore. Fact.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 I am the arch nemesis of whoredom. I demand equality. Muslwhores do not have any self-respect or dignity, which is why they need to cover themselves to mask their contempt for humanity, as they attempt to extort it rather than participate in it, by pretending to be angels. Whores! They do not even believe in god - but pretend to virtuously, just to keep the charade going, so their slave husbands will keep handing their wages over. Lie detectors would show you do not believe in god.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 No it isn't mature. Pull your head out of your ass - it is not a hat.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Women should not be the primary child-raisers either - because they're not very good at it (despite all the practice!)

When I meet a stand-up woman, I have no need to call her a whore - but you have demonstrated a will to whore, and I'm calling you out.

You have also begun to demonstrate a will to get a job; to make something of yourself - but in the competitive workplace, there is no room for a whore ethic. Decide which one you want to be to avoid mediocrity.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 The old "I don't understand what your saying, therefor you are stupid" argument. You do get it though - and the implications. You're also using the "I don't care what you argue" non-argument. Statistics to you are "stupid". Evolution to you is stupid. You're wearing your will to ignorance like a badge of honour. Increased female economic and political activity is senseless to you, because you are a whore. Get some skills, and you won't need to sell your ass to highest bidder, whore.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 I don't care what you want to hear, whore. I'll speak the truth whether you choose to comprehend it or not. Play dumb, wait 50 years, then die if it makes you happy - but you don't fool me.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 ... and you're still a whore.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You are a bum hat.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Women give birth, but after that, there is no reason they cannot get back to paid work (only excuses). Women gatekeep childcare, and so does the state for women, by encouraging women to take time off and men to keep working. Men are better at childcare than women, but I do not call for men to be sole or main child raiser - only equal child raising rights/responsibilities - but this is too much for Muslim housewhores to take, because they are terrified of getting even a part-time job

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Clothes are obstacles to sex - sex segregation devices - women take clothes off for money, therefor women (in hot countries) with lots of clothes on, are asking for lots of money. In Victorian times in UK, even ankles were covered, and this was at height of England's whoring. 1 in 64 houses was a brothel.

Muslim women play the angelic whore card with their ridiculous clothes, excessive eye make up and high heels. In UK 75% muslim women economically inactive - not even part-time jobs

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You are a knuckle dragger - leave the monkeys out of this.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Women's strength, is their facade of weakness. Men's weakness, is their facade of strength. You and the Whoran cry weakness, but the Whoran is non-specific, saying men should provide for women because 'God made the one sex stronger' leaving it open to interpretation. Whores willfully miss this point. Physical strength is about staying alive - bottom line. Muscle strength is only one measure of physical strength. You have enough muscle strength to grow up, get a job, and pay own way

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You said " The man is stronger physically and he has a greater ability to solve problems. Therefore the male has the responsibility to go into the outside world and work to provide for his family. ... Thats why a woman can depend on her husband for all her monetary needs!" Whore! Women are physically stronger than men, as women die less from 14 of top 15 causes on average, and live 5 years longer. The wholly Whoran says your God made 'one sex the stronger', not 'men stronger'.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Stop confusing sluts with whores. Sluts are humane. They have sex without extorting anything. Whores are scum. Incidentally, a study found lower IQ women are more likely to be gold-diggers than higher IQ women - so maybe muslim women acting like helpless babies have to developed IQs to match. You certainly appear to be a bit stupid. God is not really real, you dope. Read a science journal. You have access to all this knowledge, and you believe in a man in the sky!

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Sluts and whores are different, dummy. A slut is a promiscuous woman, but a whore is a woman who sells sex. Your religion slut-shames, when it should be whore-shaming, but cannot, because all true muslim women are whores. Minimal clothing does not intrinsically equal whoring. Minimal clothing shows off body, so men can make a quick, free decision about whether they might be sexually compatible with the female, where as excess clothing hides body, to draw out courtships and gifts

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Correct. Women are not little girls any more, so they can provide for themselves. Are you really 18? It feels like I'm grooming you out of prostitution, you nonce. 

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You said men should pay for women, whore.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 I do hate whoring. Correct. The niqab and burkha are whore dress, as they stop women from participating in civil society, free association, and paid work - which is why france et al have banned it. Muslwhores are upset about this, because they know there will be fewer places for them to hide from societal responsibility and accountability in the future. Yes, western women are typically whores too, but to a lesser extent than muslim women - who by religious decree, are all whores.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Your a disgusting scrubber because you dream of being a housewife, and you want a man to pay for your scrubbing brushes. There is nothing sexy about being a whore.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 By 'attacks' you mean 'criticizes'. You're not allowed to do either of Islam. It does not stand up to scrutiny, so outlaws it. How sad. If Islam was a person, they'd be a terrible two year old.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 and you've made it clear you are a fascist.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Oh, and you're being ageist too. There is nothing we can do about our age, but there is something we can do about our decisions to be whores or not.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 A girl is a whore if she puts a price on sex - like you have tried to. No sale. Google 'The punishment for apostasy from Islam' - there are 'hadith' which strongly imply 'fighting the head' (by waging war) on anyone criticizing or publicly relinquishing Islam. The bottom line is, in Muslim countries, everyone feels obliged to pretend they believe in God. Cults use repetition...MuslMen must go prey 5 times a day (whilst the housewhores get a free pass). You're a disgusting scrubber

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Criticizing Islam anonymously on the internet is very necessary, because people who criticize Islam in public can have fatwas placed against them - i.e. death sentences.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You started this argument with me, you pervert.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You might be a virgin, but your still a whore, as you've put a price on sex. Just because you've had no takers, does not mean you aren't a skank. You have made excuses for why you think men should pay for women. If you are a muslim woman, then you are a whore. If you ever get a job, you will cease to be a true muslim (and perhaps even cease to be a whore). Leaving Islam is punishable by death, so leave quietly. Leave home. Move town. Independence is for grown ups. You owe me £20.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 Whore!

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 You LOL because you know I'm right. Relying on men is NOT okay. Relying on society to take care of you is NOT okay. Using religion as an excuse to whore is not okay. You are not a baby any more. Get some self-respect (which can only be earned by striving to make the world a better place). Muslim cultures are whore fails. You are the next generation, and are supposed to learn from previous generations' mistakes - not emulate them. This is not a free consultation. You owe me £10.

[tom181071]

@shaheena101 All true Muslim women are whores, because they don't have paid employment, so rely on money from men. The Koran says men must provide for women, so the Koran is a whoring manual. If you are a woman and you have a job, then you are not a true muslim. It's one or the other - and it's clear which one you are! They never put "whore" on gravestones - so what else have you got to show for your life?

[hiothezebra]

@iAsalan @tom181071 islam is a stupid medievil culture and the sooner they stop executing gays, raping women, inflicting their ancient customs apon others the fucking better, muslims arent the problem as you two bickered about, the whole fucking shitty islam stagnent beleif system is and the sooner they die, change or merge the better.

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Islam is the will of women.

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 your a fool

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Muslim men are fools, for putting up with muslewhore women.

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 even if the men are opressed, so are the women! in this system no one wins its just a long circle of hate and pain.

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Muslim women are the laziest women in the world - and at the moment, they're getting away unscrutinized, just because they own a vagina and headscarf. Arab men need to wise up and stop facilitating muslewhore inertia. Stop giving (muslim) women money and gifts - and we will have world peace.

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 well i think the rape easily cancells that out, im not talking about all muslims just the islam ones

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Crying rape has absolutely nothing to do with this argument - how misandric. Are you one of those lazy Muslwhores I'm complaining about?

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 no... im an austrailian get you facts right, im going to leave you be now you repulsive fool.

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Don't leave! - I'm still waiting for your personality to arrive.

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 logic and intelligence are my wepons are my wepons of choice not opinions and stubborness, so i'll leave you in you little bubble of hatred, farewell my narrow minded friend.

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra Your spelling sucks, and you've got nothing to say other than that you are intelligent. I'll judge that on what you have to say, and so far, I'm giving you 5 out of 10. I estimate you have an IQ of around 98. You think there's something hateful about demanding equality from Muslim women? Why?

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 okay i'm not wasting anymore of my time here you fuck, if you have children i hope they grow to spite you and when your mind losses it's control over your bodily functions they'll put you in a home ehere no one will care for you you fuck!

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra - your mind has already lost control, you dope.

[hiothezebra]

@tom181071 and i hope to never have to recall you so i shall now block you and remove your foul memory, good day sir, go have sex or somthing.

[tom181071]

@hiothezebra My argument screws you're argument (metaphorically speaking, I have standards, and as far as YOU'RE concerned, I'm taken).

[hiothezebra]

or it could be that men are different from women in our shapes

[WhaGwaanBlooodclaaat]

go build some pyramids nigga

[BolgerMike]

Get back in the kitchen and cook the dinner then go out back and wash the camel

[sexdrugsRnR]

Can't stand this, so much bs.

[tom181071]

So Christians and Jews cover their housewhores too.

'Men cannot be trusted when women don't cover up' is the man-hating message of islam.

Islam oppresses men, by Koran insisting men must pay for women.

Fathers are better at looking after children than women (when allowed).

Islam degrades men, taking them from their nurturing role.

Women and men are separated in Islam, which IS segregation. In primate species, sex segregation evolves increased brain capacity for aggression.

Islam is retard

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 lol, lmao, I'm sorry. I'm don't agree with this speaker but you're statement is rooted in just as much ignorance as his. That last sentence was just classic stupidity...

"Islam is retard" lol

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Islam IS retarded. It does not change. It does not mature. It does not evolve. Any other points you'd like to make?

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 lol we owe our modern sciences to Islamic thinkers. Averoes (ibn Rashid), Avicenna (ibn Sina), Al-Ghazali, Al-Kwarizmi, to name a few; their texts were the source material of the Renaissance and Enlightenment.

As for your statement "It [Islam] does not change... does not evolve", one of the 99 titles of Allah is "al-Bari" (the Evolver, the One who changes all forms over time).

Also, Islam is the single greatest source of resistance against modern tyranny.

How that for evolution?

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Where are the evolved muslim societies? Some ancient Muslim thinkers (taking cues from ancient Greece) is not a sufficient tally circa 2011. There are something like a billion muslims, yet I bet Scotland, with a population of 5 million, has produced more great scientists, inventors and thinkers (despite being 500 times smaller! Believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden etc. Threaten anyone who rejects this with death - but don't expect a nobel peace prize - or anyone's respect.

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 They're all around you. Like so many Occidentals, you're equating evolution to "progress", when in fact evolution simply means change and adaptation. Muslim societies are among the most evolved in the world. They've had to adapt to a radically changing reality in a very short period of time; they're continually in flux..

Oh btw, Ibn Sina was a Neo-Platonist but the others were not. Ghazali thoroughly refuted Plato and drew on African and Asian sources for his philosophy.

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Semantics, but okay then, where are the wonderfully 'adaptive' Muslim societies? - and what intrinsically Islamic inventions did they use to adapt? If muslim societies have adapted so well, why is there a huge surplus of sexually frustrated angry young men being treated like animal scum in every one of those territories? Islamic states equal one enormous whore fail.

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 No, Scotland, despite your typical western chauvinism, hasn't produced nearly the number of scientific thinkers in this modern age. Muslims are consistently among the most educated minorities and swell the ranks of the upper middle class in most western societies. In the Muslim world however, there's no opportunity for the educated, like Egypt, Tunisia, etc. That's the result of dictatorships, that just happen to be created by the US and the UK, and a spineless Muslim majority..

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Evolved spinelessness. Very adaptive. What does the Koran dictate about blaming your problems on someone else?

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 The Quran says, "Nothing vexes you except what your own hands have earned."

Like so many disenchanted occidentals, you focus your frustration at weak and troubled minorities, not at the centers of power where it belongs. It's very cowardly actually. All this energy you could be focusing on government corruption and multi-national corporations and effecting real change, but that's terrifying. So you attack a weak and desperate people.

Yes Muslims are spineless and so are you.

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Muslwhores are the problem.

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 I love how stupid people prove my points just by opening their mouths. lol

[tom181071]

@iArsalan Muslim women are not stupid, or uneducated. They have uni degrees - yet refuse to enter the workforce in any meaningful way - because of they're whore ethic - despots, who would rather get one over on their wage slave men folk than join forces to create a better society overall. Hiding under the table cloth pretending to be an angel won't fix anything. Thankfully I'm not married to one - but i do have empathy towards those men who are. You seem a bit too keen to roll with these whores.

[iArsalan]

@tom181071 Such hate and ignorance. It's pointless to continue speaking with you any further.

[tom181071]

@iArsalan You say you're going, which is ironic, because as I'm still waiting for your personality to arrive.

[thenfm]

Letting feminist cunts know the truth: Manhood101 . com

[kantashakti]

no freedom for women inislam

[MrJtdyman]

where is n.o.w., they are no were.