Star Trek: Rescuing Gul Dukat

[CheeseyChoffer]

exploding consoles kill more people then the enemy ...

[FekLeyrTarg]

3 Birds of Prey? Where's the 3rd one during the battle?

[nemesisprime6901]

@FekLeyrTarg Defiant sent 1 spinning, and blew up the 2nd. The 3rd could be seen pounding Dukat's ship while the Defiant was being chased by the Vor'cha @ 03:33

[JMcH]

Dukat's kind of dumb. If the Klingons know the Defiant is headed back to DS9, what good will the cloak be?

[JMcH]

They should've used the tractor beam on the Cardassian ship as they passed by it to drag it into the path of the Klingon cruiser.

[MitholX]

I really want Dukat's sexy, sarcastic ass. <3

[Flobbyoiboyz]

"Dukat, what's your status?"

"We still have time to be sarcastic!"

[MrHattley]

H'weapons fire ahead



[heargote]

If only the federation could research NON exploding consoles.

[philyburkhill1]

"target at your discretion"

"aye sir"

-destroys the ship in one shot-

[science4027]

dukat=german charakter

[ScireSpire]

Anime =! Deep Space 9!

[MissRindaDiLibda]

The way Dukat enters the cabin is just precious... the way he walks, is truly distinctive... pride and high self importance, yet is it truly appealing... and the way he talks... every-time I see, how he complains first... I mean, wonderful performance... with Dukat, you can never easily analyze him, is he a true villain... no, he had like many DS9 characters, many shades of gray and that made him extremely powerful, just great acting, personality... priceless character... 

[cixelsyD1988]

Bashir: "2 decades of peace and it all comes down to this..."

SO NO PRESSURE OR ANYTHING HUH SISKO?

[ReverendSyn]

Sisko should have just let theKlingons have them. Or even help.

Cardassians are pure evil.

[harpiyon]

@ReverendSyn by that time, the Federation tried to gather as many allies as possible for the upcoming war against the Dominion. Even the Cardassians. The fact that Cardassians & Klingons hated each other didn´t make it easier. That´s why Sisko hesitated for a moment at the beginning: should he intervene or not? If he intervenes, he probably gets the Cardassians as new allies but fucks up with the Klingons. If he doesn´t, he won´t get the Cardassians.

Either way, it was a difficult decision.

[ReverendSyn]

@harpiyon Perhaps. But the Kligons have proven to be strong allies. They should naturally take precedence over Cardassians, who have proven themselves to be irredeemablly evil. Just look what they did to Bajor. Look what they did to Picard and O'Brien. You can't just ignore attrocities like that.

And the Cardassians sided with the Dominion.

There's no difficulty in the decision at all. Nuke those scaly gray facists.

[harpiyon]

@ReverendSyn i agree, i would have favoured the Klingons. i think the plan was to get the Cardassians AND keep the Klingons

right, you can´t ignore the past atrocities, but with an enemy like the Dominion you have to gather as many allies as possible

true, the Cardassians sided with the Dominion but that happened later: by this time it still looked as if they were interested in helping the Federation - or at least, stay out of their way

and you can´t just "nuke" a complete race: 1st directive ;)

[ReverendSyn]

@harpiyon Yeah youre right

[zzxcvb98]

@ReverendSyn

if cardassians are "pure evil", i don't see how klingons, with their obsessively violent and aggressive culture, are much better. and you claimed that they should be supported in an unprovoked invasion they're "strong allies" (which is in itself dubious, given the power of the cardassians), which makes any moralizing irrelevant

[Steamrunner92]

@zzxcvb98 I think that really the Klingons and Cardassians are two sides of the same coin: both hunger for power and military might, but while the Klingons have some sense of honor about them, the Cardassians are under no such compunction and can be as sadistic as they like. For example, could you see the Klingons doing ANYTHING like what the Cardassians did to the Bajorans during the Occupation?

[zzxcvb98]

@Steamrunner92

as was explored near the end of the show, many klingons in positions of power pay lip service to the code of honor while exploiting it for political purposes. the klingons never had the need to pillage a world for resources

[Steamrunner92]

@zzxcvb98 True, but most of their less-than-honorable behavior consisted of back-door deals and political intrigue to at least maintain appearances. Cardassians had no such interest or need for an appearance of honor, just get whatever you need in the most efficient manner. Again, the Klingons are the Soviets to the Cardassians' Nazi's - maybe not the best, but certainly the lesser of two evils.

[DEP717]

@Steamrunner92 Ever see the Original series? They were plenty brutal to the Organians.

[irishmike2182]

@pmack169 What do you mean? The attack cruiser had already been trying to destroy them.

[SpockLover27]

When Gul Dukat says "hummmmmm." That was just HOTT! XD I love him <3

[Sodiumreactor]

Raise sheilds and activate cloak?? WTF are you thinking "Captain" Sisko?? You cant just turn the cloak on while an enemy ship has you locked with their weapons systems!! Your fired!

[supermanfan62]

you can beam through a cloaking field spock episode

[22cevans]

Why didn't they just keep the cloak up and beam Gul Dukat and his men aboard?

[Alphasiera1701]

@22cevans Two reasons: 1) you can't transport through a cloaking field, it's like beaming through shield. 2) This method is FAR more exciting! ;)

[PrinceOfDahaka]

I love the moment of indesicion on sisko's face. he was a better actor than ppl give him credit for.

[harpiyon]

@PrinceOfDahaka one of the best Star Trek actors, he portrayed strength, authority and sometimes a slight dose of fanatism & madness like no other. He was no Picard, but for dealing with the Cardassians & for the Dominion War he was the right man at the right place.

[Koldeman]

Telling Worf to target at his discretion almost certainly will lead to awe-inspiring destruction. KICK ASS WORF!!!

[StarshipMaxima]

Worf - Firing on their engines has not been effective.

Sisko - I see. Fire at your discretion.

Translation - Sisko - I see. Mr. Worf, fuck them up as you see fit!

[Ashenion22]

Love it how the Defiant just flies through fire of a destroyed ship! Well, no oxygen in space, no worries of flying through the hellish flames.

[Sage2000]

6:12

"Capitain, are you aware there is a klingon on board your ship?" -> Dukat aways have the best lines. ^^

[littlemegamonkey]

a gold shirt doing what gold shirts do best, dying.

[orionpirates]

They should have let Gul Dukat die

[hipp6y]

@orionpirates aw, c'mon. it just wouldn't be the same without him ;P

[littlemegamonkey]

@orionpirates he was the main antagonist of the series. a main villain for sisko. both were masters of what they did. Dukat took on a Klingon bird of prey in a cargo ship. and sisko was called "the sisko," first name, dont fuck with.

[StarshipMaxima]

@littlemegamonkey

"This is Captain Don't Fuck With The Sisko, commander of the USS Shitwrecker. Surrender now."

[littlemegamonkey]

@StarshipMaxima the ship is called the "USS Ben Sisko's Mother Fucking Pimp Hand"

[wijayapala]

@littlemegamonkey Dukat wouldn't have succeeded if it wasn't for Kira.

[garamonde]

Sisko should have known better then to rescue that douchebag. Then again if he did... the show would have ended right around season 5.

[rsbandbj1j2j3]

you think by now a lot more starfleet ships would have cloak.

and i feel bad for the troops that were still on that ship

[NCC63549]

this is how you do Star Trek FUCK YOU JJ!!!!!!!!!

[pinoi78]

@NCC63549

Haters gonna hate. JJ's efforts were great.

[Audioholics]

@pinoi78 Agreed 100% JJ dumbed down Star Trek so badly that its not even recognizable anymore. I pretend that movie doesn't exist and just watch old Trek like this as well as play Star Trek Legacy on XBOX360. I wish we could have more NON JJ Trek again :(

[Jessico76]

@pinoi78 how so? 

[pinoi78]

I think I'm going with a Defiant class starship once Star Trek Online gets here.

[Dippers85]

"Arm quantum torpedo's, drop the cloak, and raise shields *raise eyebrow*....we're going in!!" One of the best lines of this episode right there....especially with the music in the background as the Defiant shimmers out of cloak, you know the Defiant is going to kick some ass!!!! :D Starfleet's first premier warship, doing exactly what she was built for :D

[JimmySteller]

Funny how Dukat claims Sisko is almost Cardassian in his punctuality, when at the end of the series,

SPOILER

, the Cardassians show their punctuality by turning to the Federation's side just when they need more ships to break the Dominion lines.

[MeIsArtTickYouLet]

how did they rent a real defiant and show it on broadcast TV

[boxa1500]

surprised he didn't have to get clearence from starfleet before engaging.

[Archedgar]

A lot of people seem to think the Defiant is portrayed as "Overpowered" but they seem to ignore the fact that it was built specifically as a Warship, whereas ships like the Intrepid class Voyager or Galaxy class Enterprise were *Not* built for war.

A little warship built to stand against -Borg cubes- is naturally going to fare better than ships designed to map out stars and nebula ; )

[SuperSaiyanAl]

Except it didn't. The Defiant got its ass kicked and was crippled by the time the Enterprise-E showed up to save the day in First Contact.

[Archedgar]

"Prototype"

you = owned.

[SuperSaiyanAl]

Prototype that asskicked its way up and down the Alpha AND Gamma Quadrants, racking up a Kara Thrace-esque kill count, and generally relieving the bowels of any enemy crew it happened to square off against.

And yet, it was completely useless against the Borg. The message seems to be that the Borg will fuck your shit up, no matter how badass your spaceship. It being a prototype makes no difference, because it couldn't possibly have been any more awesome.

LOVE the "you = owned," by the way.

[Archedgar]

One of us is very confused.

Probably the one with the name that starts with S and ends with uperSaiyanAI.

The Defiant was one of the few, *true* warships the federation designed and built. Many people complain that it is overpowered, I explained why it isn't.

[sfs2040]

@Archedgar I can't think of any other true Starfleet warships except for the Prometheus.

[knfstarfire]

@SuperSaiyanAl Also remember that the defiant had been in combat from the moment the fleet engaged, so it's taken a lot of near misses before.

[sfs2040]

@SuperSaiyanAl It took the Enterprise over 3 hours to get from the Neutral Zone to Earth. In that time the Defiant probably took a beating. And w/o its shields, its armor can't hold for very long. It took the Breen only a few minutes to destroy it when it lost all of its systems failed.

[NANOFORGE]

That was a different Defiant. The prototype was considered superior, hence why Nog said it felt alittle "Sluggish". The new Defiant also has no cloak.

[SuperSaiyanAl]

The Defiant in First Contact was the prototype. It hadn't been destroyed by the Breen yet.

[sfs2040]

@Archedgar In one TNG episode, the one when all the crew lost their memories Worf was reviewing the Enterprise's schematics he said the ship had phasers, 250 Photon Torpedoes, and a high-capacity shield grid. Riker responds by saying "This is a warship." So I think that while a Galaxy-Class vessel's number one mission is for exploration, they can convert to combat duty really quickly.

[NANOFORGE]

Hence the Battle Bridge. The Star Drive section was apparanlty armed to the teeth.

[Roadracer987654321]

The Klingons were right. They were always sneaky. They knew the Cardassians were untrustworthy and would betray everyone so they could get ahead and be Superior to everyone else.

Worf should have gone with the Klingon Chancellor to attack and Invade Cardassia ( after taking a Leave of Absence from Starfleet ). Then rejoined Starfleet afterwards and then helped Commander Sisko fight the Klingons as they attack the Space Station.

[Tseuhadon]

@Roadracer987654321

Not really, when you think about it the Cardassians only joined the Dominion due to the much more advanced race of honourable warriors (Klingons) sneak attacking them while their guard was down. And while they were weakened.

On a whim. As bad as the Cardies are, the Dominion war showed that they were were willing to pick a side and stick with it during a war. At least until their allies start trying to wipe their race and kill unarmed civillians anyway.

[Seattlecarnut]

That pause in Capt. Sisco's decision making indicated to me that either he wasn't sure whether rescuing Gul Dukat is such a good idea, that he should just let him perish, or he should fire on allies of the Federation just to rescue Gul Dukat. Awesome video!

[harukalioncourt]

DS9 was THE best series of Star Trek after TOS. I loved how it dealt with issues of religion and politics and talked about serious issues. Not to mention this series got to flesh out all of the characters that were introduced in TNG. In TNG we got to see different species sometimes but the Enterprise moved around too much, and Voyager was in an entirely different quadrant altogether. DS9 was stationery, which really made it feel more homely...

[chrismc410]

I'm sure Sisko later kicked his own ass later for rescuing Dukat because of the later war he started

[fluidicmethod]

Man for a TV budget and early CGI in 1995, this was extremely well produced

[boxa1500]

It was models not crappy CGI my friend hence why it actually looks real ;)

[FekLeyrTarg]

@fluidicmethod

I'm sure that those are studio models in WotW, not CGI ones.

[boxa1500]

@fluidicmethod It was models not shitty CGI man, hence why it looks real.

[PrinceOfDahaka]

@fluidicmethod it's reckoned that it cost the same amount to make an episode of star trek as it did to make star trek first contact.

[Chasval]

@fluidicmethod Keep in mind they use models made by excellent artists. CGI is used because it's cheaper and faster, not because it is better.

[Hot5six4231]

@fluidicmethod

it wasnt cgi, it was real models

[Keybearer]

You know, you'd have to be pretty tough to say to yourself. "Alright I am going to risk war" Sisko has guts.

[45100]

I am confused. Once the Defiant has four decks then five and four again. Is this ship changing shape or size or something else?

[Frazzledotd]

It's just plot inconsistancy. They have different writers, and in some episodes some 'facts' won't be the same as they were in an earlier episode, sometimes this is done deliberately - to make way for a plot device - or just by accident.

[werdorino]

"are you aware there's a klingon on your bridge" lmao great delivery by alaimo

[Starwarstreky]

Thumb up video.

[Globodyne]

I love how Star Trek shields work. Basically its the amount of No name characters who sit in front of computers and get "sparked". When there is no more characters to get sparked the shields are down and the ship is usually destroyed LOL

[MushroomwigGT]

It's strange how things change...it went from Sisko firing on the Klingons to defend Dukat to the whole Dominion war situation.

[isaned]

Jeez, talk about a turning point. Knowing how things ended up, Sisko probably would have let Dukat and the council members die if it meant saving the Alpha Quadrant from 3 more years of war. If that ship had been destroyed, Cardassian wouldn't have joined the Dominion, Klingons would have been able to help defend Bajor and the wormhole and the Dominion would never have had a foothold in the Alpha quadrant. Just mine the wormhole and case closed. The only flaw would be the Martok Changeling.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

LOL "the only flaw" As if Klingons would defend Bajor against the Dominion - especially with Changeling Martok influencing Gowron.

[boredstudent]

Capt. Sisko (Avery Brooks) was in American History X. he was Dr. Bob Sweeney.

[wildone106]

the ending of that scene was spectacular..awesome battle thanks for posting

[JediMasterKadin]

Doesn't the Defiant have a second Transporter? A much larger one, the one they evacuated the Jem'Hadar and Weyoun on?

[RuralTowner]

quick tidbit..i know this one is about the Defiant...but still

[RuralTowner]

what i liked to see about this episode and the one after it...i think it was the one after...was just how much of a power house Sisco and the Federation made DS9

Hell! when the Dominion attacks later on, the station brazenly brushes off a lamed Cardassian ship that slams into its shields after being disabled

[JulianneLapuz]

tough little ship! good thing the dominion is defeated, else janeway and her crew, plus her unsophisticated ship - voyager will be all its left for the federation. even a small jehadar fighter can destroy the voyager. all hail THE DEFIANT!

[Tzimnewman4]

Both Thomas Riker and William Riker make the same comments on the Defiant

"tough little ship!" Just watch Worfs reaction "Little!!"

[budkia]

i love dsp it came on every saturday in barbados at 7pm after bablon 5

[RogueCannon]

In the script of this episode, after Worf tells him they lost the cloak, Dukut says 'Can't this ship go any faster?'

And Sisko replies 'Not unless you'd like to get out and push'.

I wish that they had kept that in :)

[TheEggyThing]

I may be wrong, but I believe that they restored that in the DVD release. I've seen that clip on here a couple times.

[Defender78]

how is worf on both ST: TNG and DS-9??

[animeownage86]

This takes place after the events of the movie Star Trek: Generations.

[TheEggyThing]

Some parts of DS9 take place after the end of TNG. After Generations, Worf transferred to DS9, eventually ending up as ambassador. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but that's the gist of it.

[sfs2040]

If he is/was an ambassador, why is he manning tactical on the Enterprise in Nemesis?

[Jessico76]

Generations was shown in Nov 94 while This episode was shown in Sept 95. It really isn't that difficult.

[Defender78]

geez sorry i didnt know. ive never seen a full episode of each

[rbrtpongo]

@Defender78 Captain sisko ask Worf to join deep space nine at the beginning of season 4. and Worf needed a little help ever since the Enterprise-D was destory

[shogun2508]

I miss Deep Space Nine, it had some of the best space battles on TV.

[martoksneghvar]

agreed some of the battlescenes in tng and tos only lasted about 15 secs a time even voyager was about a minute battle ds9 lacked plot but very interesteing storylines including the first use of the defiant which kicks ass in ST: Legacy