That was really cool and well made. It is also HILARIOUS how your video regarding Hung Ga has turned into a field for a vitriolic argument about the origins and nature of Wing Chun, just as so many of these vids turn into argument about race, lineage, race, training, and race. Did I mention race? Again, though, your vid was cool and I appreciate you posting it.
Very enjoyable to watch. Nice form, you're in great condition, everything looks good. Also great music. I'm mainly a kali-escrima and Wing/Chun/JKD guy but I've been studying Hung for about 7 years too and some day hope to be as good as you. Keep up the good work.
WOW! Thanks man, I do my best with the time I have. Sounds like you got your hands full with some excellent arts as well. Keep up the good training, and the random compliments ;)
your fucking joking right that was fucking gay I could do some thing better then this hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@theredhood1000 I don't know - maybe its the camera angles or something? .. I studied for a few years - I don't profess to be a super expert or a master but When I first started I wasn't this bad.
Not even the Tiger pen could hold his might! Very awesome video. Love the energy and execution of your style. I am learning Wing Chun and hope to study Hung Ga one day. :) Thank you for your exhibition.
First off @chrscool8- your message is really really funny and with all honesty... true.... Also, You have really good forn. and a lot of power. nicely done. I would sugest, try pivoting your bow stances on your heel of your trail leg instead of the ball of you're foot. (an old sifu of mine used to get after me for that) it can add a very nice root and more power to your strikes. Keep up the training :-)
Hum, I never thought about filming that. It's just me and an old Chinese dude slamming each other around. I will have to look into the possibility of filming that. The lack of useful information within my videos was intentional. ;)
Oh, well about 90% of my techniques are useless in a contemporary point fighting scenario. Most of what you see here is for breaking bone, dislocating joints, gouging eyes, crushing spine or through, ect. ect… some of it is just conditioning i.e. isometrics. Hung Ga was never meant for the ring or cinema, just neutralizing an opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible so you can move on to the next.
To get good at a technique it must be repeated thousands of times against resisting opponents and then it must land effectively at least 80% of the time before you can relly on said technique and know it is effective and useful. Repetition is the key! My question to you is how many bones have you broken, joints have you dislocated, eyes have you gouged, spines have you crushed? If not than you are living in a world of make believe
@aldridge1 bones get cracked, joints get locked, eyes get tapped, spines get bent. "let mercy flow from your hands". When you have the force to back up your techniques, there are many ways to test it without harming a living person. You can defeat without causing such severe damage, and severe pain can easily set it with an amount of force that does not cause such extreme injuries to happen. But if they must happen, we should not hesitate.
'bones get cracked, joints get locked, eyes get tapped, spines get bent'... If you think realistic unprotected sparring with eye strikes can be done safely then you are indeed new to the martial arts. I will put it this way - to know how much force is required to hammer in a nail one must have hammered in nails repeatedly and successfully. otherwise it is only your imagination talking not your experience. Until you hammer that first nail you have no idea how much force is too much or too little
@aldridge1 Kung Fu is about commpassion, like I said, you can gauge your force in other ways. If you believe this is unrealistic. You are entitled to your opinion. However historically, many kung fu exponents were fantastic fighters with tremendous force, but hardly ever used it such a manner or had some sort of lust to defeat there opponents with overkill. Why create an enemy instead of a friend? My school uses eyetrikes but we don't go around blinding eachother, so I must humbly disagree
'My school uses eyetrikes' - So you use eyestrikes in contact sparring without eye protection? is that what you are saying? ..or are you trying to missrepresent noncontact drills with complient nonresisting partners as something that it isn't. For example it is very hard to land a punch on a good boxer. Now if you can't hit a boxers head with something the size of a fist what makes you think you could hit his eye with something the size of a finger? with time you will see through the bullshido.
@aldridge1 Yes, I am claiming exactly that which you seem to find so hard to believe. I am not talking about drills or practicing combat application, actual sparring, yes. I've been got, and i've got others. If the strikes were full force, I have no doubt about the things that could happen. It is very difficult to land a puncyh on a good boxer as a person using random fighting. My best friend who is in the national guard has been boxing since he was 13 and I say what I do in confidence, No bs
@shaolindrunk right.. and what does your sifu pay in public liability? No insurance on earth will cover that sort of stupidity. what you are describing is extremely irresponsible dangerous. A single scratch from a fingernail to the eye can cause inffections which can cost you your sight and no force at all is required for that to happen. What is your history in MA? how long have you being training? does your sifu always allow novices to spar in this way?
@aldridge1 no, sparring is a test to confirm you can fight, not a tool to get there. This is in direct opposition to many other martial arts and many modern kung fu kickboxers who can not use their techniques in combat. The novices have more important things to worry about like developing force, working on footwork, technique, and skills. I have been practicing six years and am opening my own school closer to my hometown very soon.
'sparring is a test to confirm you can fight, not a tool to get there' - Are you saying you can learn to fight without sparring? as bruce lee said "learning to fight without contact sparring is like learning to swim on dry land". This is precisely why novices from other styles regularly own kungfu guys and why alot of styles abandonned that way of training because simply does not produce effective fighters.
@aldridge1 what you said about the dangers is very true, but control as a skill is crucial as well. And yet, from the beginning you seemed to be the one insinuating that actually gouging out people eyeballs was absolutely necessary in order to be sure that it could be done. what's your experience if you don't mind me asking?
What i am saying is you can't know how hard you need to hit someone to stop them until you have actually hit someone stopped them. father was a boxer so started boxing when about 4-5 (til today)throughout the 80's trained in judo taekwondo and kyokushin starting in '86 (still train Kyo), started Muay Thai in '91 (still train), started wing chun in '98 (still train) and for the last 6 years have been training yi quan and some submission stuff. also time in security and crowd control.
@aldridge1 having a differing opinion is no reason to come across to someone you've never meant so disrepectfully, whether you meant it or not, you prett6y much implied that I'm a dumbass who thinks of practice as real combat, also earlier, you implied I had no experience whatsoever and was blowing smoke out of my ass "indeed new to the martial arts". I'm just trying to explain things that you are questioning in a helpful manner. They are indeed good questions, no doubt about that.
@shaolindrunk 'I'm just trying to explain things that you are questioning in a helpful manner' I don't mean to sound rude but I have seen so many people with potential get caught up in the 'paper tiger' nonsense of many kungfu systems and not recognise it as nonsense because that is their only experience of martial arts and have nothing to compare it to. Go train in some other systems so you have a point of reference (and not just a couple of lessons). It will give you a whole new perspective.
@aldridge1 boxing, jeet kune do, muay thai, jiu-jitsu, brazilian jiu-jitsu. I thought you were asking about my kung fu experience. I'm not sure what you mean by paper tiger, but in my opinion exponents of these other martial arts are far more easily lost in a sense of "realism". These other arts are not for me because, they are comparitively much more incomplete, kung fu being the fore-runner has every technique found in these other arts and much mor profound force training, and combat tactics
@shaolindrunk of course, the kung fu in question must be genuine and not some debased form of dance or degraded "kung fu-do". This of course is only my experience and opinion and it is only understandable that yours would differ. This does not mean I have shut myself off from other martial artists as I am always open to competition and exchanges of information, and if something should arise that I will see as beneficial to me that my training has not covered or offered, I must keep an open mind
@shaolindrunk 'has every technique found in these other arts' - well that simply isn't true. much of the technique of those styles developed within those styles in some cases after hundreds of years of separation from their chinese forerunners. Hell much of the technique within Kyokushin alone does not exist in its forerunners (Goju and Shotokan). this last statement of yours once again makes me doubt your knowledge.
@aldridge1 what you have said about seperate development is certainly plausible, but does not have anything to do with the fact, every technique is found in kung fu. Doubt all you want, now as for your wing chun, how did you ever train the eyestrikes? You must have done it in some manner worlds apart from the method I describe,
eye striking was taught mainly as part of regular strikes out of chi sau, trapping etc . was practiced on pads or dummy etc and only used in sparring when some sort eye protection was available. But never without protection because it was considered simply too dangerous. The idea of those moves is to stop with a single strike. Well a good right cross can do that and you can practice it repeatedly, safely in realistic conditions and get really good at it. eye, throat attacks etc not so much
@aldridge1 but as I said before, seperate development of a technique or not, it's there. May I ask what technique you're referring to? Control is just as important a combat skill as any other, at least that's the way my school sees it. So yes, accidents are always a possibility, but the skill of the exponents actually engaging in free sparing in my school would be sufficient so that nothing horrendous would happen. Also, trimming fingernails is pretty essential as far as partner respect goes
@aldridge1 Now if you don't mind me askin, how do you reckon yim wing chun and other wing chun greats in the past like methodologically practiced crucial combat skills with their eyestrikes, at a time when pads and eye protection were never part of kung fu training apparatus?
@shaolindrunk I don't speculate on how someone who may or may not have existed trained (yim wing chun's existance is debatable and widely considered a myth). Unvarified tales from the past which have suffered from many years of chinese whispers only serve to part kungfu fanboys from their money.
@aldridge1 what varification do these accounts require? lineages from many different schools trace back to her as well as the venerable ng mui and aknowledge their existence. Why is it debatable? I don't know what you mean by kung fu fanboys and money. But I assure you, I don't want your money. If you disagree with the traditional approach to training effectiveness in eyestrikes, that's fine. But don't try to tell me that it doesn't work.
@shaolindrunk Read some the research undertaken by Sifu Alfredo Del-Brocco. Fact is the true origin of WC is debated and some believe the nun story is a misdirection. Either way I do not have an opinion on what the true origin is and I don't see the point in speculating on the training methods of someone who may or may not have existed.
@aldridge1 whether yim wing chun existed or not, this kind of approach to sparring is inherent in genuine chinese kung fu, and the progression concerning use of force with eye, groin, and throat strikes. Is tried and proven. THAT was my point all along and the matter which I was hoping to discuss with you. Nevertheless, if a bit of research has substantial evidence to convince you that all kung fu lineages with wingchun, her teacher, or her kung fu aunts and uncles are all false. I'm interested
@aldridge1 You don't have to go off on a different tangent whenever I ask you a relevant question in order to try to coax an answer out of you that may help you see my point. You seem so ready to disagree with me on anything and everything. Seeing the comments on your channel I can only assume you've been pretty abrasive with others as well. If that's your reason for being here, that's fine. I now only wish to hear what you have to say about the proof wing chun was not a real person.
@aldridge1 as for kyokushin, masutatsu received much inspiration from the 18 lohan hands, so if some marvelous techniques seemingly came from "nowhere" or his own personal experience fighting and training with karate, Now you may have a clearer picture of this interesting development
@shaolindrunk I am refering to technique that has developed within kyokushin which was never taught by Oyama and has no outside source. New techniques develope all the time. look at taekwondo for example. many of the current kicks did not exist 30 years ago in tkd itself let alone in its parent styles. there is no grand ultimate source that has everything.
@aldridge1 what you have said about fighting & sparring raises an interesting point. Actually there are 3 differing schools on the matter, the first 2 breeding questionable "kung fu" fighters. The first free spars from the beginning and can never use kung fu patterns, only kick boxing, the second only practices form and never spars. Ours, one that recognizes the importance of a systematic and developmental approach to deepening skills starting with form and progressing to free sparring
To get good at a technique it must be repeated thousands of times against resisting opponents and then it must land effectively at least 80% of the time before you can relly on said technique and know it is effective and useful. Repetition is the key! My question to you is how many bones have you broken, joints have you dislocated, eyes have you gouged, spines have you crushed? If not than you are living in a world of make believe
@ianmarshalhicks "... just neutralizing an opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible so you can move on to the next." Very much the mentality of a battlefield style; all you need to do is take 'em out of the fight.
@papageorgio123123 well, ill state this though...i am not trolling by offering a suggestion about his symmetry. trolling would be an insult. this is constructive criticizm hence, i found nothing else wrong.
@ianmarshalhicks Cool. Well you are really good. I did not know anything about Hung Ga until, and yes I do feel dorky, I watched Avatar: The Last Airbender. That is what the earthbenders style is based on.
I only lift free weights about an hour a week, if that. Using live weapons builds a lot. My double blades weigh about three pounds each and my two handed blade that I use single handedly for conditioning weighs about five pounds.
Its obvious you take your training seriously.Your kung fu is very good.I myself have practiced various northern styles but its nice to see southern style well executed.
Thanks for the compliment man! Yes the southern arts are not all that popular but the Hung Kuen is my passion. I will be posting some new vids this fall.
Buddy, you are awesome. I'm joining the Yee Hung Ga brooklyn branch and I'm dying to get started. Seeing you gives me a real practical feel of what sort of rigor the training will be. Keep going!
Thank you...I find this video very interesting considering the other Hung Ga forms I've seen...your connection and movement are much different than the others (in a VERY good way)...I'll try to find more Lam family videos.
That was really cool and well made. It is also HILARIOUS how your video regarding Hung Ga has turned into a field for a vitriolic argument about the origins and nature of Wing Chun, just as so many of these vids turn into argument about race, lineage, race, training, and race. Did I mention race? Again, though, your vid was cool and I appreciate you posting it.
toddymo 2 months ago
Thanks for the kind words Todd.
I have noticed some of the “interesting” things people like to post.
Personally I chose to focus less on what others do in order to put that attention on my own training and development. But that’s just me.;)
ianmarshalhicks 2 months ago
was this guy in a movie where a thaiboxer got beat up and started learning hoong ka and wing chun kung fu respectively from two different teachers?
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
very nice love to learn
MrFistocuffs 4 months ago
Very enjoyable to watch. Nice form, you're in great condition, everything looks good. Also great music. I'm mainly a kali-escrima and Wing/Chun/JKD guy but I've been studying Hung for about 7 years too and some day hope to be as good as you. Keep up the good work.
magellan500 5 months ago
WOW! Thanks man, I do my best with the time I have. Sounds like you got your hands full with some excellent arts as well. Keep up the good training, and the random compliments ;)
ianmarshalhicks 5 months ago
poor stances way too tense movements are too forced
58dragonmist 5 months ago
I can see why people choose to disable comments! Funny, bizarre, delusional commentary from all the armchair warriors.
renaissancemang1 7 months ago
every kung fu seems to have alot of the same moves...i see crane and tiger alot here.....cool stuff....
you can take the second best guy in the world and make him better guys....
lionchamp29 7 months ago
Well regardless of whether or not he did a bad job, Hung Ga is still a True Southern Shaolin Martial Art, Keep up the good practice.
WahnamStudent 7 months ago
he is inherently unstable on his feet
58dragonmist 7 months ago
your fucking joking right that was fucking gay I could do some thing better then this hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
theredhood1000 8 months ago
@theredhood1000 You're right his form sucks and he's so off balanced .. why, oh so why?
sunwukung777 7 months ago
@sunwukung777 I been Hung Ga for years and I am way better then him it looks like he just did for a week >:)
theredhood1000 7 months ago
@theredhood1000 I don't know - maybe its the camera angles or something? .. I studied for a few years - I don't profess to be a super expert or a master but When I first started I wasn't this bad.
sunwukung777 7 months ago
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mrmuse2 6 months ago
Very bad, please review the video without sound and understand everything!
Bound movement, aggressive, heavy.
EnikTracer 8 months ago
Nive video!
Can you tell me the name of these soundtracks? They are awesome!
wggarzon 9 months ago
Not even the Tiger pen could hold his might! Very awesome video. Love the energy and execution of your style. I am learning Wing Chun and hope to study Hung Ga one day. :) Thank you for your exhibition.
saraberges 9 months ago
not bad, not bad at all
HyperhyperPsyCrow 10 months ago
Very cool. I enjoyed watching this.
Regards,
-fellow southern kung fu practitioner
Nebulaterous 10 months ago
First off @chrscool8- your message is really really funny and with all honesty... true.... Also, You have really good forn. and a lot of power. nicely done. I would sugest, try pivoting your bow stances on your heel of your trail leg instead of the ball of you're foot. (an old sifu of mine used to get after me for that) it can add a very nice root and more power to your strikes. Keep up the training :-)
abitdark 11 months ago
I respect your training. You've obviously put a lot of sweat and blood into your training. Plz don't stop making videos
Bagface 11 months ago
great vid, very powerfull. great setting too, where is it? looks like a zoo, you didn't break into the tiger enclosure did you?
TheScouseExile 11 months ago
Ha! i can't help it, tigers are just so cool!
it is the old L.A. Zoo
ianmarshalhicks 11 months ago 5
@ianmarshalhicks Waaaaiiiit... How'd you get in there?
jeffdoeskungfu 5 months ago
That looks absolutely ridiculous. Which I guess would make me look even worse when he beats the crap out of my like that.
chrscool8 11 months ago
Looks fantastic!
LABukXingGwoon 11 months ago
Ha! I hear that brother. :)
Hum, I never thought about filming that. It's just me and an old Chinese dude slamming each other around. I will have to look into the possibility of filming that. The lack of useful information within my videos was intentional. ;)
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago
Oh, well about 90% of my techniques are useless in a contemporary point fighting scenario. Most of what you see here is for breaking bone, dislocating joints, gouging eyes, crushing spine or through, ect. ect… some of it is just conditioning i.e. isometrics. Hung Ga was never meant for the ring or cinema, just neutralizing an opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible so you can move on to the next.
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago 4
breaking bone, dislocating joints, gouging eyes, crushing spine
To get good at a technique it must be repeated thousands of times against resisting opponents and then it must land effectively at least 80% of the time before you can relly on said technique and know it is effective and useful. Repetition is the key! My question to you is how many bones have you broken, joints have you dislocated, eyes have you gouged, spines have you crushed? If not than you are living in a world of make believe
aldridge1 5 months ago
Yes! this is all so very true.
ianmarshalhicks 5 months ago
Yes! this is all so very true.
ianmarshalhicks 5 months ago
Yes, this is all so very true.
ianmarshalhicks 5 months ago
@aldridge1 bones get cracked, joints get locked, eyes get tapped, spines get bent. "let mercy flow from your hands". When you have the force to back up your techniques, there are many ways to test it without harming a living person. You can defeat without causing such severe damage, and severe pain can easily set it with an amount of force that does not cause such extreme injuries to happen. But if they must happen, we should not hesitate.
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
'bones get cracked, joints get locked, eyes get tapped, spines get bent'... If you think realistic unprotected sparring with eye strikes can be done safely then you are indeed new to the martial arts. I will put it this way - to know how much force is required to hammer in a nail one must have hammered in nails repeatedly and successfully. otherwise it is only your imagination talking not your experience. Until you hammer that first nail you have no idea how much force is too much or too little
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 Kung Fu is about commpassion, like I said, you can gauge your force in other ways. If you believe this is unrealistic. You are entitled to your opinion. However historically, many kung fu exponents were fantastic fighters with tremendous force, but hardly ever used it such a manner or had some sort of lust to defeat there opponents with overkill. Why create an enemy instead of a friend? My school uses eyetrikes but we don't go around blinding eachother, so I must humbly disagree
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
'My school uses eyetrikes' - So you use eyestrikes in contact sparring without eye protection? is that what you are saying? ..or are you trying to missrepresent noncontact drills with complient nonresisting partners as something that it isn't. For example it is very hard to land a punch on a good boxer. Now if you can't hit a boxers head with something the size of a fist what makes you think you could hit his eye with something the size of a finger? with time you will see through the bullshido.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 Yes, I am claiming exactly that which you seem to find so hard to believe. I am not talking about drills or practicing combat application, actual sparring, yes. I've been got, and i've got others. If the strikes were full force, I have no doubt about the things that could happen. It is very difficult to land a puncyh on a good boxer as a person using random fighting. My best friend who is in the national guard has been boxing since he was 13 and I say what I do in confidence, No bs
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk right.. and what does your sifu pay in public liability? No insurance on earth will cover that sort of stupidity. what you are describing is extremely irresponsible dangerous. A single scratch from a fingernail to the eye can cause inffections which can cost you your sight and no force at all is required for that to happen. What is your history in MA? how long have you being training? does your sifu always allow novices to spar in this way?
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 no, sparring is a test to confirm you can fight, not a tool to get there. This is in direct opposition to many other martial arts and many modern kung fu kickboxers who can not use their techniques in combat. The novices have more important things to worry about like developing force, working on footwork, technique, and skills. I have been practicing six years and am opening my own school closer to my hometown very soon.
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
'sparring is a test to confirm you can fight, not a tool to get there' - Are you saying you can learn to fight without sparring? as bruce lee said "learning to fight without contact sparring is like learning to swim on dry land". This is precisely why novices from other styles regularly own kungfu guys and why alot of styles abandonned that way of training because simply does not produce effective fighters.
aldridge1 3 months ago
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shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@aldridge1 what you said about the dangers is very true, but control as a skill is crucial as well. And yet, from the beginning you seemed to be the one insinuating that actually gouging out people eyeballs was absolutely necessary in order to be sure that it could be done. what's your experience if you don't mind me asking?
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
What i am saying is you can't know how hard you need to hit someone to stop them until you have actually hit someone stopped them. father was a boxer so started boxing when about 4-5 (til today)throughout the 80's trained in judo taekwondo and kyokushin starting in '86 (still train Kyo), started Muay Thai in '91 (still train), started wing chun in '98 (still train) and for the last 6 years have been training yi quan and some submission stuff. also time in security and crowd control.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 having a differing opinion is no reason to come across to someone you've never meant so disrepectfully, whether you meant it or not, you prett6y much implied that I'm a dumbass who thinks of practice as real combat, also earlier, you implied I had no experience whatsoever and was blowing smoke out of my ass "indeed new to the martial arts". I'm just trying to explain things that you are questioning in a helpful manner. They are indeed good questions, no doubt about that.
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk what is your is experience then?
aldridge1 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk 'I'm just trying to explain things that you are questioning in a helpful manner' I don't mean to sound rude but I have seen so many people with potential get caught up in the 'paper tiger' nonsense of many kungfu systems and not recognise it as nonsense because that is their only experience of martial arts and have nothing to compare it to. Go train in some other systems so you have a point of reference (and not just a couple of lessons). It will give you a whole new perspective.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 boxing, jeet kune do, muay thai, jiu-jitsu, brazilian jiu-jitsu. I thought you were asking about my kung fu experience. I'm not sure what you mean by paper tiger, but in my opinion exponents of these other martial arts are far more easily lost in a sense of "realism". These other arts are not for me because, they are comparitively much more incomplete, kung fu being the fore-runner has every technique found in these other arts and much mor profound force training, and combat tactics
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk of course, the kung fu in question must be genuine and not some debased form of dance or degraded "kung fu-do". This of course is only my experience and opinion and it is only understandable that yours would differ. This does not mean I have shut myself off from other martial artists as I am always open to competition and exchanges of information, and if something should arise that I will see as beneficial to me that my training has not covered or offered, I must keep an open mind
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk 'has every technique found in these other arts' - well that simply isn't true. much of the technique of those styles developed within those styles in some cases after hundreds of years of separation from their chinese forerunners. Hell much of the technique within Kyokushin alone does not exist in its forerunners (Goju and Shotokan). this last statement of yours once again makes me doubt your knowledge.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 what you have said about seperate development is certainly plausible, but does not have anything to do with the fact, every technique is found in kung fu. Doubt all you want, now as for your wing chun, how did you ever train the eyestrikes? You must have done it in some manner worlds apart from the method I describe,
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
eye striking was taught mainly as part of regular strikes out of chi sau, trapping etc . was practiced on pads or dummy etc and only used in sparring when some sort eye protection was available. But never without protection because it was considered simply too dangerous. The idea of those moves is to stop with a single strike. Well a good right cross can do that and you can practice it repeatedly, safely in realistic conditions and get really good at it. eye, throat attacks etc not so much
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 but as I said before, seperate development of a technique or not, it's there. May I ask what technique you're referring to? Control is just as important a combat skill as any other, at least that's the way my school sees it. So yes, accidents are always a possibility, but the skill of the exponents actually engaging in free sparing in my school would be sufficient so that nothing horrendous would happen. Also, trimming fingernails is pretty essential as far as partner respect goes
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@aldridge1 Now if you don't mind me askin, how do you reckon yim wing chun and other wing chun greats in the past like methodologically practiced crucial combat skills with their eyestrikes, at a time when pads and eye protection were never part of kung fu training apparatus?
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk I don't speculate on how someone who may or may not have existed trained (yim wing chun's existance is debatable and widely considered a myth). Unvarified tales from the past which have suffered from many years of chinese whispers only serve to part kungfu fanboys from their money.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 what varification do these accounts require? lineages from many different schools trace back to her as well as the venerable ng mui and aknowledge their existence. Why is it debatable? I don't know what you mean by kung fu fanboys and money. But I assure you, I don't want your money. If you disagree with the traditional approach to training effectiveness in eyestrikes, that's fine. But don't try to tell me that it doesn't work.
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk Read some the research undertaken by Sifu Alfredo Del-Brocco. Fact is the true origin of WC is debated and some believe the nun story is a misdirection. Either way I do not have an opinion on what the true origin is and I don't see the point in speculating on the training methods of someone who may or may not have existed.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 I can not find his research, could you please point me in the right direction?
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@aldridge1 whether yim wing chun existed or not, this kind of approach to sparring is inherent in genuine chinese kung fu, and the progression concerning use of force with eye, groin, and throat strikes. Is tried and proven. THAT was my point all along and the matter which I was hoping to discuss with you. Nevertheless, if a bit of research has substantial evidence to convince you that all kung fu lineages with wingchun, her teacher, or her kung fu aunts and uncles are all false. I'm interested
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@aldridge1 You don't have to go off on a different tangent whenever I ask you a relevant question in order to try to coax an answer out of you that may help you see my point. You seem so ready to disagree with me on anything and everything. Seeing the comments on your channel I can only assume you've been pretty abrasive with others as well. If that's your reason for being here, that's fine. I now only wish to hear what you have to say about the proof wing chun was not a real person.
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@aldridge1 as for kyokushin, masutatsu received much inspiration from the 18 lohan hands, so if some marvelous techniques seemingly came from "nowhere" or his own personal experience fighting and training with karate, Now you may have a clearer picture of this interesting development
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
@shaolindrunk I am refering to technique that has developed within kyokushin which was never taught by Oyama and has no outside source. New techniques develope all the time. look at taekwondo for example. many of the current kicks did not exist 30 years ago in tkd itself let alone in its parent styles. there is no grand ultimate source that has everything.
aldridge1 3 months ago
@aldridge1 what you have said about fighting & sparring raises an interesting point. Actually there are 3 differing schools on the matter, the first 2 breeding questionable "kung fu" fighters. The first free spars from the beginning and can never use kung fu patterns, only kick boxing, the second only practices form and never spars. Ours, one that recognizes the importance of a systematic and developmental approach to deepening skills starting with form and progressing to free sparring
shaolindrunk 3 months ago
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breaking bone, dislocating joints, gouging eyes, crushing spine
To get good at a technique it must be repeated thousands of times against resisting opponents and then it must land effectively at least 80% of the time before you can relly on said technique and know it is effective and useful. Repetition is the key! My question to you is how many bones have you broken, joints have you dislocated, eyes have you gouged, spines have you crushed? If not than you are living in a world of make believe
aldridge1 5 months ago
@ianmarshalhicks "... just neutralizing an opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible so you can move on to the next." Very much the mentality of a battlefield style; all you need to do is take 'em out of the fight.
deepashtray 3 months ago
Not yet, it's on my list of things to do.
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago
might i suggest that you concentrate on symmetry. get a mirror.
opticannon 1 year ago
@opticannon it was good, stop trolling
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opticannon 11 months ago
@opticannon i have removed my msgs and decided to settle this through personal msgs
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@papageorgio123123 in light of your last private message i have chosen to do the same as i have found reason to respect you as an individual.
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papageorgio123123 11 months ago
@papageorgio123123 well, ill state this though...i am not trolling by offering a suggestion about his symmetry. trolling would be an insult. this is constructive criticizm hence, i found nothing else wrong.
opticannon 11 months ago
@opticannon it was good, stop trolling
papageorgio123123 11 months ago
Havent seen those little hop steps before, but keep at it, lookin good!
kresslerk 1 year ago
Look at me!!!
popsjnr 1 year ago
Very impressive!And-ability to improvise is valuable.
TilkiSaloOstalos 1 year ago
looks nice =D and powerfull =D
MamiBumser 1 year ago
Now you just need to relax between each move...
BigBroheim 1 year ago
@BigBroheim I think you are mistaken.Hung Gar is hard style of Kung Fu.Power and elegance should exist in each move.
MrIzo56 1 year ago
Wow gay....Way to LARP.
Blndrfist 1 year ago
I honor your spiritual and martial space, their teachers,
much to appreciate in his teachings, my best wishes
for you!
changyembo1 1 year ago
what is the name of the music you are using?
KaitianEA 1 year ago
Lau Ka Kuen, Gung Gee & Fu Hok you Rock man!
Excellent performance.
hungkuenmty 1 year ago
There can be...only none
Jucudeno 1 year ago
Very good !
ezramandel 1 year ago
I love seeing real martial intent in forms. Nice work.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
Where did you learn Hung Ga and how long have you been doing it?
overkillin2008 1 year ago
I have been studding with Fred Lee in Los Angeles since 1999, I think. We also go to china when we can to study with his teacher Lam Chun Fai.
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago
@ianmarshalhicks Cool. Well you are really good. I did not know anything about Hung Ga until, and yes I do feel dorky, I watched Avatar: The Last Airbender. That is what the earthbenders style is based on.
overkillin2008 1 year ago
@overkillin2008 Don't sweat it, you've got to learn it from somewhere. My Hung Gar family loves The Last Airbender (the cartoon version).
Argonath357 1 year ago
@Argonath357 it is really good.
overkillin2008 1 year ago
@ianmarshalhicks i studied hung ga under sifu frank yee in new york for ten years, your hung is different good form but a little stiff.
edlo123 1 year ago
I only lift free weights about an hour a week, if that. Using live weapons builds a lot. My double blades weigh about three pounds each and my two handed blade that I use single handedly for conditioning weighs about five pounds.
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago
do you lift weights at all or you got all that muscle mass through dynamic tension sets?
redtortoise76 1 year ago
and then he got his ass kicked by a streetfighter
bummercal 1 year ago
excellent
redtortoise76 1 year ago
Easily recognizable as traditional southern hung ga! Nice work!
samuski36 1 year ago
Its obvious you take your training seriously.Your kung fu is very good.I myself have practiced various northern styles but its nice to see southern style well executed.
harkying99 1 year ago
@harkying99 Wow!
Thanks for the compliment man! Yes the southern arts are not all that popular but the Hung Kuen is my passion. I will be posting some new vids this fall.
ianmarshalhicks 1 year ago
Walf
titsinkuen 1 year ago
There is no "R" in Cantonese ask a Cantonese person to say Ralph and let me know what it sounds like
titsinkuen 1 year ago
Congratulations it seems you like to train hard and low. Thank you.
EDDGC 2 years ago
Uhhh name is Hung Gar <<<<R not Ga tiger and crane style /hung chi gwan Hung style/or just hung style kung fu
gokuta333 2 years ago
Is this a statement or a question?
I suppose it depends on what dialect you speak, my training is very old school, pre communist takeover. Thanks for your input.
ianmarshalhicks 2 years ago
like ianmarshalhicks said, it depends on what dialect you speak. in mandarin, it'd be "hong jia", and (i believe) in cantonese, it'd be "hung gar".
kyousho 1 year ago
this is the basis of earthbending in avatar
chosen for its firmly rooted stances and powerful strikes to present the solid nature of earth
jrs9092 2 years ago
This reminds me of my old school of Si Lum Pai Gung Fu. There are many other hand sets passed down.
tubewalker999 2 years ago
Buddy, you are awesome. I'm joining the Yee Hung Ga brooklyn branch and I'm dying to get started. Seeing you gives me a real practical feel of what sort of rigor the training will be. Keep going!
NightHour13 2 years ago
amazing
from Italy
markohu 2 years ago
Awesome!
SuperTutorialKing 2 years ago
What system is this?
whynotmoo 2 years ago
Lam Family Hung Ga Kuen
ianmarshalhicks 2 years ago
Thank you...I find this video very interesting considering the other Hung Ga forms I've seen...your connection and movement are much different than the others (in a VERY good way)...I'll try to find more Lam family videos.
whynotmoo 2 years ago
Oh well thank you,
we focus more on power and martial application less on performance. It looks ugly but it works, if you are ever unfortunate enough to need it.
ianmarshalhicks 2 years ago
Everyone has their own definition of ugly ;)...I certainly wouldn't call that ugly compared to alot of the other stuff on here...
whynotmoo 2 years ago
great training bro
iwanttofight69 2 years ago
Personally, I think you should have performed the whole thing with your shirt off. It's delightful to watch your muscles work as you move. :D
Dhesyca 2 years ago
Oh, well thank you.
I will consider that for the next one. :)
ianmarshalhicks 2 years ago
Did you perform at Sifu Eddie Lanes Hunggar competion in Bellingham doing Gunggee? 2006
JimbobKungFu 2 years ago
yes i did.
ianmarshalhicks 2 years ago
That was very cool.
VaughnBrogdon121 2 years ago
very good,hung gar good
jorgepakua 2 years ago
*claps* very good
langying 2 years ago
I do Hung Gar too. You certainly know what your doing.
jbulger30 2 years ago
]strong base
peterwing 2 years ago
Good Tiger Crane, Show your version of a five elements style sometime
peace and love
KOFLabsTV 3 years ago
Very nice.
Jxr3r 3 years ago 4
Nice!
clfguardian 3 years ago 3
cool. thanks.
jowyeroc 3 years ago 3
Love your soundtrack.
vtml 3 years ago 3
very nice vid !
W4EAN 3 years ago 3
pretty cool video. thanks for sharing.
esshung 3 years ago 3
nice !
FrankyLau 3 years ago 3