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  • Yo the strikes almost over, and everyone thats seen the videos loved em! GOOD SHIT! thx again man

  • Brilliant arguement. You were in debate in high school, weren't you?

  • Ignore that fucker, he's apart of the usual majority of this country.

  • And most of the world...(-o-;)

  • I love it!! You guys have just got a fan. I will follow and support you cats in your future work. Never loose that edge.

  • its funny when he laughs after saying the money!

  • Yo I just gotta say, this is the best, most informative video to show how big of SCUMBAGS these writers are.  more people need to see this.

  • There is only one good thing to this WGA strike

    all the mindless drones that corporate media has ensnared can finally do some thinking for themselves. the subliminal mind fuck America

    mindless drones like krazykizza should have a spiked bass pipe rammed up very orphus of their body and then kicked the nut, he would know good entertainment if it raped him up the ass and know he believes that writers deserve respect and more pay shitting out stuff that a diseased monkey wouldn't

    hahaha

  • SWEEEET... Now the bass pipe is SPIKED. You're awesome!!!! You are just two or three adjectives away from becoming a War Dawgz writer!

  • Thanks I just can't stand idiotic people that have more common sense, it's like very one is brainwashed to be very stupid

    but krazykizza i think was just born with no common sense like the wga writers (hahaha - getting money for shitting out crappy enterainment) i would have more fun watching a monkey taking a dump

    so fuck the wga writers with a spiked bass pipe dipped in hotsauce up orphus in their body and rip them a new asshole

  • Because some how the writers "believe" it's their right to get more money for writing pieces of crap - stories. It's taking a shit and then expecting to get paid for it.

    if the writers did QUALITY WORK and maybe then they deserve more pay.

  • What exactly started this strike? WHO started this strike?! WHAT is their problem?! And, WHY do they believe they need more money for essentialy writing the same story with different characters?!

  • ok all the money for one thing, but there isnt one person writing it there are like 20!! so they have to share "all that money"

  • So if ONE person writes a 30 page script, it's worth $25,000. But if 20 people write the SAME 30 PAGE script, it should be worth $500,000?????

  • no, i think they mean that the 2o writers have to split the 25,000, which would mean they don't get that much money considering an episode takes a while to write

  • And tell David Mamet or Laurence Kasden there are twenty people writing their scripts .... .... .... (The Untouchables, Raiders...etc)

  • Respect is something you "earn" not "deserve" or "need" and a majority of writers haven't earned it yet

    there are only a few writers that have "earned" respect for writing something that is both entertaining and original not like the all the other writers that just shit crap out a large sum of money on top of getting a portion of the profits

    so fuck the majority of WGA writers, fuck them up ass with bass pipe

  • hee hee.  Bass pipe. I like that.

  • Just get a life, the writers need respect and if your not respecting them switch of your TV switch off your computer and write something yourself THEN you will understand how hard it is

  • So they need respect, eh. I think not. Soldiers, teachers, parents, people who fly airplanes...they need respect.

    If writers are getting paid what they do come up with things like "Cavemen", they not only need to be paid less, they need to be beaten more. It's not about the little guy, it's about the money...don't try to feed us any crap about respecting writers. They've done nothing to deserve it. I have switched off the tele, and it's a better world without it.

  • Look the fact is they have work on the internet and there not getting any percentage at least give them like 20% or something or even a bonus every year relating to its publications

  • They can get a bonus providing that they agree to forfeit their pay according to how sucessful their show is...no success, no pay. Just like the execs that bankroll them, they will feast or famine depending on their success as writers, and not be paid just because they wrote something and someone says it on the screen or on tele.

  • 20% HOLY SHIT!!! 20%????ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? 20%???? YOU THINK THE WRITER DOES 20% of the work on a movie, TV show, etc? Are you completely and absolutley INSANE?? OK. You obviously have NO idea whatsoever all of the work that goes in to a show. Oh, and I HAVE written. I've got three movies at Blockbuster. Did I also mention I produce, edit and direct, too?

  • i couldnt care less, YOUR BLOCKED i have better things to do give them what the derrve or dont wantch you fucktard

  • I'm blocked? You're commenting on MY video, dumbass!

  • Congrats, your cowardess and nonsensical babble has earned you honorable mention in Frog's 3rd WGA rant (coming tonight or tomorrow).

  • okay sure WHATEVER any publicity is good publicity :)

  • Last I heard their demands did not include respect: (And in addition to not paying us enough, we want a guarantee of more respect for our work. I was hurt on the job today. I was not respected...Hugs anyone??) You sap. This feel good goo is so typical of the uninformed.

  • Of, and see Captain Neth's comments about Hemmingway and other classic writers......you putz. Sorry, sorry. I know. I resorted to name calling. I just can't get over your ridiculous demand for 20%. Ha. Haa haha ha haah. 20%. I'm still laughing my ass off.

  • sending flaming bag of dog shit to writers for shitting out crappy material and get paid for it

  • My point? Book writers don't get paid anything if their book sucks. Movie writers in the WGA still get paid even if they shit out something like Gigli or Ishtar...so do television writers. And you think they should be paid MORE -- so you really want to pay $37 and episode for a Battlestar Galactica episode on your iPod? If you think they deserve more, send them a check.

  • it's a classic of modernist American Literature. Ernest Hemingway wrote 'Farewell to Arms' in about three weeks -- his original manuscript got stolen out of his luggage on a Transatlantic boat trip and he'd already sold the manuscript, so he threw it together as fast as he could. He won a Nobel Prize. Here's the ironic thing; your argument is completely illogical (i.e., STUPID) because BOOK writers get paid based on their sales, not on a salary forced upon their publisher by a union.

  • Speaking of FuckTard®©™...someone ...KrazyKizza (nice name) stated: "Think of all the movies TV and books youve read that takes time of peoples life at least reward them..." Henry Miller wrote 'Tropic of Capricorn' in 48 hours;

  • FuckTard®©™ is a registered trademark of Ponderous Productions and Frog E. Frog. For everyone who's used the word FuckTard®©™ in this blog, please send your royalty payments to Ponderous Productions.

  • Haha, I thought Rooster Teeth owned that one! :D

  • If YOU are happy to work for nothing that's fine. Granted no-one would ever actually PAY you for this kind of word vomit but if you're happy to do so then keep on working for free, Fucktard.

  • If everyone hates our writing so much, why do you keep using Frog's catch phrase? Fucktard?

  • Strengthen.

    Well that'll teach me to post whilst drunk...

  • AHH!  That explains your unsupprted debating skills. You're an alcoholic.

  • And when are people going to realize, the WRITER'S AREN'T WORKING FOR FREE!!!!! Oh, poor writers. Alright, that's it. We're writing ANOTHER Frog rant about the writer's strike and explaining to you fucktards how to engage in an intelligent debate...with the aid of well placed and creative 'word vomit,' of course.

  • What a douche.

    Your unintelliegable scrawlings only serve to stengthen my pointy.

  • Could you possibly view my writings as unintelligent because you are a moron and can't think logically? I mean, all of our points are a logical progression of an idea and concept. Backed up by historical data and economic principals. You're argument? "What a douche" Yeah. Okay.

  • I finally understand where you're coming from. You aren't creative enough to actually BE a working writer and so you're hoping to get in as a talentless, hack producer. So of course you're anti-union and anti strike when you wish to make money of the work of other's rather than actually create anything worthwhile.

  • Since you desire to attack me personally, instead of debate me or defend the attack MsFarland made on teachers or the ridiculous statement about assistants...I have sold three films and they are avaialble nationwide. I wrote, produced, edited, directed and appeared in those films. And I have YET to receive a dime from them. They money that WAS made, went to my cast.

  • I AM a published writer. I refuse to join the writers guild though because I am ethically opposed to unions, and unlike some people, I practice what I preach. Oh, incidentally, since you're making an affront attack on B (Ponderous Productions), he has enough points to be in the WGA also (and SAG and the producers guild which I can't think of the name of it at the moment), but also refuses based on ethical grounds.

  • your pointy what?

  • Rick Astley sucks RegicidalManiac! Damn B, you're trying to argue with someone who listens to Rick Astley. Hey, do you have any Michael Bolton? Oh, Oh! How about Tiffany! Or Debbie Gibson! Or are you more of an ABBA kinda guy?

  • Yeah, it's totally impossible to like something in for its kitsch value in an ironic way. Oh I forgot, Americans have no concept of irony.

  • Listening to Brittney Spears is kitsch...watching American Idol is kitsch...ok, you don' have American Idol in Australia...um...listening to Kylie Minoge is kitsch...Rick Astly? That's just bad taste and a cry for help.

  • Wait...I just realized that RegicidalManiac is arguing with a 2 inch tall plastic LEGO calling him a stupid FuckTard®©™...not only that, but he's arguing from fucking AUSTRALIA! The WGA strike doesn't even effect you! I'm an American and I don't know what irony is? That seems pretty ironic to me. Anyone agree? After all, I'm just a stupid American who was taught in public schools where are teachers live in the depths of poverty and sacrifice.

  • I feel for the plight of teacher as much as you do child. Many of my friends are teachers in addition to holding other jobs so I hear you loud and clear. I am a member of the AWG (Australian Writers Guild) and will soon be a member of the WGA, writers can live and work anywhere, it's one of the best things about our jobs. And so far you haven't come close to touching on the meaning of irony. Keep trying, if you must.

  • So much for sarcasm being an Australian strength. Child? You want a date or what? The writers being on strike is inconvenient in that work has slowed. They are as untalented as most union buffoons. Lucky for them they have a union. On the open market, with no protection, their poor skill set would land them on the street. I tried to sit through network tv one night. My god it was dreadful.

  • No one is forcing you to watch garbage on network television. Unless they are, in which case you have my sympathies. Television exists to fill the gap between one ad break and the next, if you EVER find anything good in between, cherish it.

  • So, you're saying that television is CRAP, so you think that they should get paid even MORE? In the immortal words of Frog, "What the fuck?"

    Oh, and congrats! You're inability to logically debate or use common sense has earne dyou an honorable mention in Frog's 3rd WGA Strike rant (coming tonight or tomorrow)

  • Rant, rant, rant all you want little man. If you don't like what you're watching then switch off. If you don't like that actual writers (note the use of the qualifier "actual" as a means of separation from the likes of you) get paid to write then write something better. Or is swearing loudly in a fake accent the limit of your accomplishments?

  • And YES I do think they should be earning more than they are currently earning for internet downloads. Downloads are streamed with ad-breaks intact from ad-laden websites, so don't tell me there isn't profit to share. Residuals off internet downloads are currently at zero (your worth) but I believe that more than zero is a fair demand. If you want to work for your worth (again zero) go right ahead.

  • And don't tell me there isn't risk sharing on the writer's part either, it may not be financial, but it certainly is risky to the reputation to work on a show or film which gets changed beyond the initial concept to become something you're not proud of. It might make a loss financially but that's a blip to the company whereas your name is associated with it for all time. A good reputation is hard to reclaim from the ashes of a bad project, if you had any kind or reputation you'd understand.

  • Hmmm, talking about "what you know," I DO have a reputation. A very good one. We have a large number of fans, not just War Dawgz, but we're on IMDB, we have an honorable reputation among those we work with and we DO get paid for the work we do on the films we have in Blockbuster video. Do your research before you babble about something you know nothing about.

  • You know what a zero is to me? Someone who, instead of arguing an opponent's POINT (which you haven't countered ANY of our arguments, just keep bitching about fairness and your OPINION, NOT FACT). and instead makes personal attacks against said opponent. How about trying to use logic and reason and actually LISTEN to our points, rather than bitch and whine about something you know nothing about.

  • He has one, if you hadn't noticed he has written a looooot of stuff. You are the one who's incorrect, sorry, you lost.

  • You seem to feel like you are insulting me by saying that I'm worth nothing. Hmm. First of all, perhaps you should watch some of the ACTUAL War Dawgz series before you babble about who and what we are and what we do. And yes, I know how internet ad sales work.

  • And fine, if you think they should make more money, why punish the grips, the cast, the gaffers, the assistants, everyone else who aren't making any money because they have nothing to do.

  • And refer to our accomplishments by looking up the imdb, Addy Award winners, Telly Award winners, the winner of the Twin Rivers Media Festival, Videographer Awards...uh, do I need to continue? Swearing loudly in a fake accent is the LEAST of our accomplishments. And it's got a HUGE fan base.

  • Here's a GOOD one, try doing research and argue with THIS point. By the WGA OWN calculations, Internet revenues, JUST INTERNET REVENUES calculate to $126 million (this is the WGA calculation). Yet they REFUSED a $130 million compensation package from the studios. Hmmm. Interesting.

  • The WGA is going to get fuck up any ways cause the DGA (Directors Guild of America for the stupid asshole that don't known) is going to start negations with the AMPTP and the WGA will just be kicked aside like some whining spoiled little fuckass kid.

    What ever the DGA negotiates with the AMPTP the WGA will have to take the same deal and FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

  • Oh, and you bitch about the corporations making millions. Where do the profits go? Hmmm. Shareholders. Own any stock in RCA? Sony? Maybe a mutual fund. That's YOUR retirement money the writers are taking away from you...the little man. Ah, capitalism. Where the little man, owns the big man. He just doesn't know it.

  • Well said Joey. lol

  • hee hee. It's not plagurism if I rip MYSELF off, is it?

  • I find it interesting that no one has responded to the two major points (that caused us to go on this rant) about the teacher comment. And that the studios fired Assistants because they have NOTHING TO DO.

  • A "Right to Work" state, has written laws that it is ILLEGAL for an employer to hire or fire someone based on their membership in a Union. Whether they are in one, or not. Sounds pretty fair to me? "Forced-Union" states allow someone to hire or fire based on Union membership. That seems like the government telling me who I can and can't hire. Sound right to you?

  • think of the money they make from the DVD sales, and all the writers get 5000$ FUCK YOU WANKER THIS IS A 1* CRAP VLOG

  • What an intelligent argument. You must be one of the greedy writers that don't understand the principal of supply and demand and economics, etc, etc, etc. Your intellectual and high quality writing reminds me of a terrific Hollywood writer.

  • IM NOT A WRITER! i just belive in fairness and want a fairer payment for these people SUPPORT THE GUILD EVERYONE

  • Methinkst the moron doth protest too much. SUPPORT THE STUDIOS. FUCK THE WRITERS!

  • I think people are missing the big picture. You bitch and bitch about the big corporations. Well, Unions prevent the little guy from competing with them. Because Unions want the wages that the big corps can pay. The little guys can't. Therefore, the little guy can't compete.

  • assholes? fuck you. They need more money and people like you should fuk off. The people on youtube do it as a hobby you just do it because your fucked up. Movies make millions not uust 50000$ it takes several months to write that and its hard work

  • Yes, you are a writer with the WGA. Writing a screenplay is NOT hard work. It is a formula. Look up the HERO'S JOURNEY on the internet. It's plug and play. Don't even START to tell me writing a script is hard work. I've written 15 features this year alone (and 5 have won outstanding awards).

  • ill have you know that theres testing modifying and all sorts it takes writers many parts of the day to even do tiny amouts you are severely under estermating them. Think of all the movies TV and books youve read that takes time of peoples life at least reward them AND NO IM NOT PART OF THE WGA IM NOT EVEN A WRITER YOU FUCK TARD

  • If there are test screenings and modifcations, doesn't that mean the audience or test screeners are writing it? If the audience doesn't like "A", then "B" Writing by multiple choice. Yeah, real creative. And we must not be too sick, if you're using Fucktard in your argument.

  • You still aren't addressing our points about teachers and assistants.  By your logic, you agree with Seth that writers should make more than teachers? You say writers work hard? Do they work harder than teachers? No. They don't If you think writers should get paid more, then there IS only one way to respond to you...FUCK YOU. It's an argument/point that someone of your mental calliber can understand.

  • Actually, I think TEACHERS should get the percentage of internet revenue that writers are asking for, not the writers. After all. The writer wouldn't be able to write without the teacher. Just like a movie wouldn't be mad without a writer. So lets give EVERYONE a percentage, the writer's parents, too. If it weren't for THEM there would be no script, either, right?

  • And yeah, movies make millions, but the writers aren't the ones who take the risk by putting the money up front. They get a safe paycheck. And why should a writer be GUARANTEED that money. What if they suck? Like you. They still deserve $50,000? Why do they need more money? Seriously? Don't tell me it's hard work. If your talented, it isn't.

  • They need more to live, cali is an expencive place there commuting fees and living costs house prices r through the roof and also a show takes weeks to write non stop and a fleet of writers in some cases

  • Then move or look for a career that pays better. There are a LOT of writers out there with good scripts and good ideas, willing to sell them for a smaller amount. It's called supply and demand. You get paid what you're worth. You're worth what people are willing to pay. If you don't like it, don't do it. But don't stop a company from going to someone who WILL do it for lower.

  • why should the move from ghe job they love doing? and where too that isnt the way to go about it they will all turn into cretins like you,. there is BIG DEMAND FOR SCRIPTS but only a SMALL ammout the the writers that needs to change. How low can you get from $5000?

  • If they love doing it, be happy in the fact they are getting paid to do what they love. Cretin? Did you have to look that up? $5000 is just what they get from DVDs, that doesn't include the WGA minimums of like $50,000.

  • They need ore then what there getting and alos there striking in the first place because they get nothing for their internet sales they cant just live on one sector they do need a fair slice and you are just a fucktard saying they dont

  • There are TOO MANY writers scrambling for the same slice. And if they can't sell a script to make a living, maybe they're not very good writers. They shouldn't get millions just so they can feed themselves from script to script. Solution: write more scripts. If they still can't sell them, maybe they suck. If a janitor keeps getting fired because he sucks, and can only work three months out of the year, he should get more money when he does work to tide him over?

  • And please, slow down, take a breath and write coherently. I don't attack people for misspelling, etc, because it's a pussy way to try and argue with someone. But it is really hard to understand your point when your writing doesn't make sense. Polite request...not an attack. But your mother does dress you funny.

  • Hee hee. You're getting pissed off and yelling at a two inch piece of plastic. Your funny.

  • First of all, allow me to say that we have almost 100 episodes of War Dawgz. We write, direct, photograph, edit, animate, and lip sync them all. Well, me. And out of ALL the stuff we do to make it, writing is the easiest. It just comes to us. The toughest part? Animating the mouths. While we're not "Hollywood," it's not much different.

  • Oh, and the $50,000 are MINIMUMS. If they're any good, they GET MORE....oh, AND back end. Why should someone who sucks be GRANTED royalties and a minimum.  Shouldn't they have to EARN it? Why should it be handed to them?

  • What about the cast, crew, back office, advertising/sales efforts, taxes, theaters, transport, profit which keeps the studio in business and the investors investing in these stinkers? Are you aware that every studio bases the film biz on a 20 film average? That means that only one out of every 20 films is profitable. So one film has to carry the financial load for 19 other financially losing projects: cast, crew, overhead, investment repayment, and everything else that goes into it.

  • Please check out Frog's WGA #2 (up now) and #3 (coming tomorrow or tonight)

  • I told the same thing to my friend about that

    he got mad haha

  • New war dawgz a week! I have been shown the dark side of writers and know the right path, thank you

  • Union's use strong arm tactics for their own benefit, regardless of the harm they may cause. Several of us at Ponderous are eligible for various unions (SAG, WGA), but all of us have chosen, by our own free will (something you don't have with a union) to NOT join.

  • you are retarded

  • so you don't agree with something so you label it 'retarded' as an insult...so do you not like mentally challenged people? Are you a Nazi?  Just curious...

  • Kudos on such an intelligent and coherent argument. Your presence on this earth, and your remarkable thought process is a grace to all mankind. Oh, by the way, that was sarcasm.

  • i totally agree with you

  • ... New episodes? O.o Are you serious? o-o Gawd, if you are... x.x Please be? ;-;

    MOAR WAR DAWGZ PLZ!! =D

  • Completely serious. As long as the Writers stay on strike.

  • yea keep on making war dawgs or i will unsubscibe!

  • Youtube is unprofessional, often really crappy, hobbyist video. The WGA writes "professional grade" scripts for shows that make actual MONEY.

    How many finished movie scripts do you think one writer pops out? After splitting money among collaborators, they aren't making a fortune.

    If musicians, authors, software programmers (me), and actors get royalties, the creators of the dialogue deserve as much, even if they get paid that heavenly middle class salary.

  • I'm sorry. Did you not see Gigli? Professional grade? I've laughed more at youtube stuff than I've laughed in movies since I was nine. And where is it written that a writer is SUPPOSED to make a fortune. Aren't we supposed to starve for our art?

  • In reply to Gigli: Notice the quotes around professional grade.

  • As for musicians royalties, that would depend. What kind of deal are they making? Were they offered a larger sum up front without royalties, or a smaller sum up front with royalties. It's like the lottery. You pick the annuity or the cash option. You can't say you want the annuity AFTER you've won the lottery. And even then, YOU'RE the one who put out the $1 for the ticket in the first place.

  • Look, the point everyone is missing is that writers get paid up front. They take no risk when they get paid. If it's too small of a check, then go find another career. There are way too many other people responsible for making movies and TV to think the writers are the gods of entertainment. And that comes from a published author, with three (and six more coming soon) to the imdb.

  • Royalties should be a priviledge. Something that you earn by proving yourself or by making sacrifices. NOT a right.

  • So musicians shouldn't get royalties every time a song is played on ClearChannel? It should be all or nothing. The writers see that other industries are giving their talents percentages of earning on distribution of products, and they want in as well.

  • ... So musicians include stuff like Britney Spears, where she does none of the writing, and anywhere from zero to next to none of the singing?

    In regards to music, the original, ACTUAL artists should ALWAYS get their dues... In regards to movies and television, however... Well, with the current slew of things about of late, I no longer have cable. Things suck on TV. Family Guy, The Simpsons and all are just so damn repetitive.

  • I come to a place like YouTube for original, actual good and decent quality entertainment, which lacks in commercials to annoy the piss out of me. The writers here are far superior to anything Holy-wood there has a hold of. The content here is far superior to anything from Hollywood!

  • The sheer low amount of actual, decent, good quality, at least quasi-original stuff from Hollywood nowadays is something to drive me away from it all... The writers are producing CRAP. Why should they get payed to produce crap, and essentially re-hash the same stuff so many damn times... While actual good writers and content exists out there for free?

  • ShadeCOPY4 , search 'INTERNET PEOPLE'.

  • If anything, these writers should get paid LESS than they are until they frickin produce something of actual, DECENT quality. -_-

    Which is part of the point made in this video! I completely agree with the last said statement of "Royalties should be a priviledge. Something that you earn by proving yourself or by making sacrifices. NOT a right." They have not proved themselves worthy of such things in a VERY long time, imo...

  • What you're basically saying - whether you mean to or not, it's still what's coming out - is to support crap in the hopes that some day they eventually come out with something GOOD. At any other job, you get FIRED for not doing decent work... Why should THIS be any different, mm?

  • First of all, writer's are not musicians. Musicians in that analogy would be actors. And when is the last time you went to a movie based on who wrote it? Uh huh. Thought so.

  • Musicians don't get royalties every time a song is played on Clear Channel -- the record labels do. Musicians, if they're lucky, get an advance from a label to put out an album. The royalties go toward the advance.  After the advance is payed up, some musicians may get a small percentage of the royalties, but labels get a majority of the money from radio stations playing songs.

  • youtube will not die! it is owened by google!

    and if youtube dies google might die too

    so shutup!

  • ... That was entirely irrelevant. o_o;

    Unless I missed the joke. If so, sorry. ^^;

  • I vote Frog for president in '08 :)

  • you know youtube mite be leaving in 2008 so do episodes now what you need is something that you need which is a basic camra and free editing stuff thats all its not hard but you mite need to end the writers strike now lol becuase 2008 youtube mite be gone but man I would kill for another episode of wardawgz

  • I kind of have to split my opinion here. On one hand, I feel that you may be taking your opinion of the WGA strike over the line. Then again, you guys write, animate, voice, and direct all the War Dawgz. The WGA doesn't, so I guess you guys have quite a bit of arguing room. Also, any reason for 1 War Dawg a week 'till hell-only-knows when that doesn't involve criminal activity is fine by me!

  • Don't forget, we do this because of the FANS, not for MONEY. If it weren't for all of you guys and your generous support, the Dawgz would have been put to sleep a year and a half or so ago.

  • I thought it was funnier with sensores! o well, WAR DAWGZ PWNS

  • Frog(y) is the best....

  • frog rocks, i really hope to seethe rest of season 3.

    ps: how do you keep comming up with these rants :D

  • first comment welcome back Frogy we have missed you and your banter.

    I thought for a moe that they band you from the internet. I guess they will never be able to stop you telling the Frogy truth...!

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