The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
Draconhosta: you may disagree with Ms. Kelani, but please don't call her a 'disgrace'. In fact many Iraqis in the audience were supportive of her. Ms. Kelani's ancestors are originally from Iraq, and as an Iraqi you should have recognised the family name. She is against the allied western forces there and NOT the Iraqi people. HSMFREEK14: I salute your efforts to stand for your aunt (lucky you), but please don't use language that would not help your defence. Lets unite NOT fight! God bless you
Palestine abandoned Mawtini..... and she is tackling the new Iraqi government just because they adopted it... I respect Palestine, but she is just a disgrace...
@draconhosta hw has she disgraced it when shes up there singing you anthem and supporting your ppl.. do u even no her.. u dont... she basses her life and everything she works for in order to supply for the country... looks to me like your the jew
@draconhosta bc its originally ours... im sorry.. thats facts man!! just like Palestine was ours 1st... and killing is the ways of the jews.. ne7na 3arab.. lazem nikrahom.. mish nit5ana2 ma3 ba3id..
@draconhosta bas inno im just saying respect my family... if shes saying something wrong (which idont belive it is.. but we never no) just u dont have to insult her.. keep ur oppinion to urself
even the american govornment got sick of your govornment lies. read the maareef newspaper about it. and finally the only jew that are allowed to claim palestine. are the palestinian jews.
I am fighting for an arab democratic palestine where christian, jew and muslim can live freely. finally you are welcomed to live among us but you are not welcomed to occupy us
"the resistance was born to live, and it will live and win for the people of palestine, israel to the trash of history
and if i have to follow your logic: israel is ours we can't steal it. spain shoulf give us back andalousia because it is ours.
mexican have to give us back mexico because pheonician moved there and founded a new civilisation.
comon let's be realistic you will keep on fighting us you are not welcomed in the region. and from the other side we will keep on fighting you till we wipe the so called state of israel and flash news the european started to understand the trooth
legally speaking israel is not even a nation. review the definition of nation:
limited borders: what are the so called state of israel border?
common history: you don't even share history, half of you are from east 10% from africa. and the rest from north america.
and let me quote the words of you beloved ben gorian (God i love his wise words): If I was an arab i would never accept israel as a nation after all we did come and take their country.
we all know what hagana did when british understood the mistake they have commited and blocked jew imigration to palestine. they started killing the british soldier and put there heads on orange trees. and we are terrorist?
sabra and chatila was full of civilian? why did the IDF forbid reporter from going into the camp
first all of us know that israel is not ruled by a democracy. it is ruled by IDF. no wonder all prime ministers are ex- criminal of war.
if you call Hezbollah terrorist, so is IDF both of them are in the same situation. IDF has no legimacy to exist. and you people who live in the so called state of israel you know it vey well. they control the govornment and take every decision. from the war of 6 days, galile peace, war of 2006 and finally gaza war.
The way Nazi kill Jews same way Israeli systematically kill to the people in Gaza.For what? because Israeli can not kill Nazi in Germany that's why you take revenge against
the people of Gaza who were not part of German Nazi . The History said Gaza people give Jews shelter to live as a guest but Israeli just took their home.
What a return for welcoming Jews in Palastain when they were kick by German Nazi. Israeli action encourage people not to help and give shelter when they needed it badly
HaTikva is a real nice anthem. People should listen to the song by Israeli Rapper Subliminal called 'Biladi'. The chorus is in arabic and says "this is my land" so they can understand it is his (Jewish) land! Look up the documentary channels of rage, part 7, and you can see it. AM YISRAEL CHAI! ;)
And since when is the number 1500 dead just simply a number? The last comment was disgusting, and TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. Not to mention Israel's own involvement in the Lebanese civil war, Jordan civil war. And last but not least, all those Palestinians killed that Tutumovies seems to be 'concerned' about, well their problem as refugees whould not have arised if the Zionist Imperialist state of Israel was not established in the first place. Shame on you, and God have mercy on all dead.
Very true. People don't pay attention to what is going on in the Congo. Darfur, people have stopped paying attention to it. People just can't stand the thought of a Jewish state. But, we Jews are used to being blamed for everything. Frankly, these protestors can say whatever they want. I know Israel lives and is a safe place for the Jews of the world!
Palestine was a safe place for Jews before Israel was created. The Muslim world has always been a safe haven for Jews. The European Christians were the ones who persecuted you and you are now persecuting the Muslims who used to let you live in peace. Today in Yemen, a Muslim country, there are jews who do not feel the need to go to Israel and dispossess people of their homes. The whole world should be a safe haven for jews. Israel should not exist at the expense of Palestine ans Palestinains.
The Muslim world has definitely not been a safe haven for Jews. There were pogroms, blood libels, anti-Jewish laws, and all sorts of persecution against Jew. In many places, Jews couldn't walk on the sidewalks if a Muslim was. The VAST MAJORITY of Yemeni Jews did go to Israel. The world should be a safe haven for Jews, but it is NOT, has never been, and only because of Israel, is there a safe place for Jews. Israel represents Jews realizing the harsh reality of the world.
not sure what this means exactly..language barrier? but, if you are trying to suggest that Jews are not at home in Israel, then you are sadly mistaken. As a Jewish person, being in Israel feels more like home than anything!
Yes they are. Israel is the spiritual and ancestral home of the Jewish people. It always has been. At the end of passover, always, "Next year in Jerusalem!" I've been, i've felt the connection. And, as long as the arab and muslim world deny Jews right to Israel, they will always lose.
to the first part, obvious historical circumstances, assimilation, the comfortable setting of the United States, etc.
to the second part, 20%. some are druzim, which are very loyal to israel and the jews. some are bedouins, who are bcoming more loyal to israel. the rest are "1948 arabs" who are mostly not particularly loyal to israel.
and as long as israel serves as a safe haven and a home for Jewish people, it will never have "outlived its usefulness" (whatever anti-semitic bs that is)
If I was Jewish the last place on earth I would want to live is Israel. I think support for Israel is collapsing in the West even amongst Jews. It can't even claim to be Jewish anymore as it doesn't adhere to the moral code of Judaism. The Ten commandents say don't kill or steal. Obviously Barak, Livni, Netenyahu don't seam to be observing The Ten Commandments but then they are not religious. Come to think Israelis as a whole cannot even observe the Ten Commandments so how can it be Jewish?
actually, the ten commandments say "dont murder". self defense is ok. israel fights all about self preservation and self defense. also, you can be jewish but not be very religious. Israeli people are quite secular. much more so than americans (by a loooong shot). only about 10% of jews in israel are orthodox. and, the steal part...you cant steal what is yours...israel is ours, we cant steal it, it can only be stolen from us....
Try as people may Israel is not a democracy as understood on the Western model. It is the only country in the entire world which is not the state of its citizens, but instead is the state of a people of who the vast majority don't live there! Incredibly it doesn't even have a constitution because its never been able to reconcile how to be both a Jewish state and a democracy at the same time something which is impossible. Israel is in fact an ethnocracy not a democracy.
When 100 times more people are being killed on one side more than another you cannot call it a war it is a massacre. Wars are fought between sides of usually equal strength. Massacres are where one side has almost no means of defending itself. The German attack on the Warsaw Ghetto was a massacre likewise the Israeli attack on the Gaza Ghetto was a massacre also.
The attack on Getto Warsaw was NOT a massace too. because Jews were fighting there against the Germans.
The Germans had been sending 800,000 people a year long, in 20,000 at each train, two hours away to Treblinka to be killed within gas chambers. 800,000 !!! Women ! children ! skinny starved children on purpose ! to be murdered.
In new days wars when the war is in populated places, much more cevilians get killed. Its still not a massacre.
I am sorry and not happy with any of cevilians killed. ours or thiers.
Israeli army fought in full power for 2 weeks in all Gaza cities. The most populated erea in the world !! Fighting from house to house, with dozen of boobytraps, seucide bomers.. we used a lot of fire power ! with 1500 killed of which 300 cevilians were killed too..
If we wanted to Massacre the Palestinians.. belive me, and you know it too.. we could have wiped out thousands of people in that crowded strip. And we did not.
Even many terrorist organisations have the decency to give warnings before bombings! That is very appropriate because that is exactly what the IDF is a terrorist organisation! Are you telling me that all the hospitals, schools, mosques bombed that all these were military targets. No. This was a deliberate attack on the civilian population.
Well the IDF deliberately targets civilians that makes it a terrorist organisation.
It's not me who is saying it's is one of Israel's main newspapers and I've read it it's all in Haaretz and it's online. According to them they interviewed soldiers who had been given orders that it was OK to kill civilians men, women children, babies gunned down Nazi style.
I've seen Al Jezeera showing the dead . Are these people terrorists? Are Al Jezeera and Haaretz, both highly respected, wrong.
once again, israel does not target civs...and once again, godwins effin law. please stop mentioning nazis you f*ktard. learn about the history of the Shoah before saying such stupid things
Israel does target civilians and that's according to Israel's quality newspaper Haaretz and Israeli Human Rights Organisation B'tsalem and the National Lawyers Guild of the USA. So are you saying they are wrong! Israel has refused to co-operate with a UN investigation. This means it's got something to hide. Norway has issued warrants for the arrest of Livni, Barak and Olmert for war crimes. If I was any of these three I would not go on holiday to Norway!
I will give you a quote from the National Lawyers Guild report of the USA who have been to Gaza.
"The delegation recorded numerous accounts of Israeli soldiers shooting civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, in the head, chest, and stomach. Another common narrative described Israeli forces rounding civilians into a single location i.e., homes, schools which Israeli tanks or warplanes then shelled. Israeli forces continued to shoot at civilians fleeing the targeted structures".
a) israel DEFENSE forces are not terrorists. b) hamas does not give warnings, and directly targets civilains. IF israel TARGETED civilains, imagine what the numbers would be. the civilians that died were relatively small because of the force israel was using against hamas. hamas is like a parasite living amongst civilians, it is very hard to fight them in such a dense area and not have civilian casualties.
Then why does Israel not co-operate with United Nations investigation into the Massacre. If it's got not nothing to hide and it really is what Ehud Barak laughingly calls "the most moral army in the world" it would not hesitate to co-operate to proove to the world it commited no war crimes. The fact that it refuses strongly suggests its got something to hide and that it has committed war crimes.
Dictionary definition of a massacre "To kill in considerable numbers where much resistance can not be made; to kill with indiscriminate violence, without necessity, and contrary to the usages of nations; to butcher; to slaughter - limited to the killing of human beings". Gaza has no army, no navy, no way of defending itself the people were trapped with no way to get out. Israeli soldiers indiscriminately killed defenceless unarmed civilians and this is according to Haaretz. That is a massacre.
You forgot to mention the blockading of Gaza. Gaza is still under military occupation as Israel controls its airspace, borders and coastline. All organisations agree on this including B'tsalem the Israeli Human Rights Organisation and the UN. And by the blockading a terrority is an act of war.
As for the rockets they are mostly home-made out of scrap metal, anyone could make them in a few hours. Only the tiny little town of Sderot is mainly affected and one or two border towns such as Ashkelon.
the Gaza people say they are under blockage.. and "starving".. but tons of explosives are smuggled in the hundreds of tunnels..
Ever wonderd why they don't smuggle food ?
1. because Hammas doesnt really care for the people, its more concerned with being a murderus group.
2. Hundreds of supply trucks go in and out of Gaza every day !! But you there in Europe will never see it or know about it, because they want you to think its "Getto Warsa" over there..
If you wish, and we will found a way to do it.. I will send you pictures from the palestinian parlament (pictures that where self censored..) showing them sitting with candles (because of the "terrible blockade which causes a humanitary crissis..") and behind them you see (!) the windows are covered with blankets (!) to make the room dark (!) while its clear daylight outside !!
I can understand how you see the conflict, when huge miss-information is shown.. but if you open your mind..
Well that's very interesting because Israel bombed Gaza's Power Station in 2006 causing a humanitarian crisis with life support systems in hospitals and water treatment systems because it couldn't be repaired quickly enough. It has still not been properly repaired. Israel also restricts fuel to the station so people have regular blackouts. People in Gaza have to use cooking oil to power their cars because a shortage of petrol. I do not beleive you can produce any evidence!
I bet they were using blankets to cover their windows because you cannot get glass in Gaza because Israels blocks all building materials. Easily explained!
Even if the facts do not settle with the common brain wash propoganda.. people in europe will twist the truth so it will fit to the Israel=Satan picture.
If there is no piece of fact that can make you as a thinking human being - think.. then what's the point of us debating ? I know life in Gaza are shit, I know cevilians suffer.
The world is not black & white.
People who try to force you to think that either succeed.. or think you are so stupid its worth trying.
Did you write comments like this when busses were blowing up in Tel Aviv ? Did you write comments when cevilians in Cafes were thorn to pieces in Jerusalem ?
Did Trafalgar square filled with raging people when 350 people (only cevilians) blow up in march 2002 ?
Or Massacare is a frase saved only when palestinians die ?
Reem Kelani is not against the "Iraqis" using this poem. As an oppponent of the war on Iraq, she is against the Coalition Government in Iraq using "Mawtini", tainted by the Bush Administration's role in its creation. Also, the fact that the poet is Palestinian is not just the only reason that makes this poem "Palestinian", but the Palestinians have always used it as their "unofficial" national anthem from the thirties to this day, and so we should always make sure that people remember that.
The government of Israel murder children. Let's bring justice to the Palestinian people by having a War Crimes Trial and hanging those responsible...FORCE Israel to rebuild EVERY brick in Gaza and also in Lebanon.
Free Palestine! a much oppressed people let there be peace for everyone. Including the Jews. Hopefully a good leader will rise up among your people who can look forward in a positive way and try to put the horrors of the past behind. No more religious rethoric or revenge, but a constructive plan how to make peace and develop the country in a prosperous way. Such a long way to go.
Why does USA give billions of dollars to Israel while millions of Americans are living in poverty, while millions of Americans are homeless?
karezza6 2 months ago
Deuteronomy 28:7 A PROMISE TO ISRAEL:
The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
You are fighting a losing battle.
Bobalugee1940 6 months ago
@Bobalugee1940 lunatic
Dabbers1959 1 month ago
Palestine will have freedom and justice! All zionist terrorists to the Hague!
Dharani26 8 months ago
OMG HE WAS FROM NABLUS? I'M SO HONORED!! HAHAHA GO NABLUS!
MaXiiMo93 9 months ago
WOnderful Reem! Allah yehmeki ya rab <3 <3 <3
misshanood22 1 year ago 2
Reem Kelani is beautiful
ghanboy 1 year ago
god bless palestine fuck israhell :)
MusicBeautyXo 1 year ago 2
Kisses for you honey!! You are Great...
rostomation 1 year ago
Draconhosta: you may disagree with Ms. Kelani, but please don't call her a 'disgrace'. In fact many Iraqis in the audience were supportive of her. Ms. Kelani's ancestors are originally from Iraq, and as an Iraqi you should have recognised the family name. She is against the allied western forces there and NOT the Iraqi people. HSMFREEK14: I salute your efforts to stand for your aunt (lucky you), but please don't use language that would not help your defence. Lets unite NOT fight! God bless you
Saffouri 1 year ago
Israel is supported by the united states, so that Israel could be above international law
ahmadshafyallam 1 year ago
I Love YOU 3amto reem...
FROM: Yasmin Kelani <3
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
Palestine abandoned Mawtini..... and she is tackling the new Iraqi government just because they adopted it... I respect Palestine, but she is just a disgrace...
draconhosta 1 year ago
@SHUT THE FUK UP!!!!!!!!! BC U DONT NO SHIT!!! GERT UR SOURCES STRAIGHT DIM WIT!!! AND RESPECT YOURSELF YOUR TALKING BOUT MY FAMILY ASSWIPE
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
@HSMFREEK14 lol? fuck you. respect to Mawtini and Palestine, spit on u and Israel
draconhosta 1 year ago
@draconhosta im Palestinian 1st of all... idiot.. second of all.. ur the disgrace not her.. respect urself okay... dipshit
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
@draconhosta shes my aunt... my dads sister.. dont think i wont fuk u over if ur being disrespectful to my family
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
@HSMFREEK14 wat about the idea that she disgraced my country , you fucking jew!
draconhosta 1 year ago
@draconhosta hw has she disgraced it when shes up there singing you anthem and supporting your ppl.. do u even no her.. u dont... she basses her life and everything she works for in order to supply for the country... looks to me like your the jew
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
@HSMFREEK14 then why wont she let Iraq have mawtini has an anthem
draconhosta 1 year ago
@draconhosta bc its originally ours... im sorry.. thats facts man!! just like Palestine was ours 1st... and killing is the ways of the jews.. ne7na 3arab.. lazem nikrahom.. mish nit5ana2 ma3 ba3id..
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
@draconhosta bas inno im just saying respect my family... if shes saying something wrong (which idont belive it is.. but we never no) just u dont have to insult her.. keep ur oppinion to urself
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
even the american govornment got sick of your govornment lies. read the maareef newspaper about it. and finally the only jew that are allowed to claim palestine. are the palestinian jews.
I am fighting for an arab democratic palestine where christian, jew and muslim can live freely. finally you are welcomed to live among us but you are not welcomed to occupy us
"the resistance was born to live, and it will live and win for the people of palestine, israel to the trash of history
saeelo12 2 years ago 9
and if i have to follow your logic: israel is ours we can't steal it. spain shoulf give us back andalousia because it is ours.
mexican have to give us back mexico because pheonician moved there and founded a new civilisation.
comon let's be realistic you will keep on fighting us you are not welcomed in the region. and from the other side we will keep on fighting you till we wipe the so called state of israel and flash news the european started to understand the trooth
saeelo12 2 years ago
legally speaking israel is not even a nation. review the definition of nation:
limited borders: what are the so called state of israel border?
common history: you don't even share history, half of you are from east 10% from africa. and the rest from north america.
and let me quote the words of you beloved ben gorian (God i love his wise words): If I was an arab i would never accept israel as a nation after all we did come and take their country.
saeelo12 2 years ago
we all know what hagana did when british understood the mistake they have commited and blocked jew imigration to palestine. they started killing the british soldier and put there heads on orange trees. and we are terrorist?
sabra and chatila was full of civilian? why did the IDF forbid reporter from going into the camp
saeelo12 2 years ago
Yes israel=satan
first all of us know that israel is not ruled by a democracy. it is ruled by IDF. no wonder all prime ministers are ex- criminal of war.
if you call Hezbollah terrorist, so is IDF both of them are in the same situation. IDF has no legimacy to exist. and you people who live in the so called state of israel you know it vey well. they control the govornment and take every decision. from the war of 6 days, galile peace, war of 2006 and finally gaza war.
who killed isaac rabeen?
saeelo12 2 years ago 6
Long live to popular resitance of Palestine.. to brother's of Hamas , J.I. popular comitate and to comrade of FLPL
8432Sx 2 years ago
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The way Nazi kill Jews same way Israeli systematically kill to the people in Gaza.For what? because Israeli can not kill Nazi in Germany that's why you take revenge against
the people of Gaza who were not part of German Nazi . The History said Gaza people give Jews shelter to live as a guest but Israeli just took their home.
What a return for welcoming Jews in Palastain when they were kick by German Nazi. Israeli action encourage people not to help and give shelter when they needed it badly
MonsterIsrael 3 years ago
LONG LIVE PALISTINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
murry2127 3 years ago 3
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Short live palestine.
Moslemistan was defeated.
Moslemistan WILL BE defeated.
The rest is wishful thinking, dear islamofucking baboons
amper0003 3 years ago
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HaTikva is a real nice anthem. People should listen to the song by Israeli Rapper Subliminal called 'Biladi'. The chorus is in arabic and says "this is my land" so they can understand it is his (Jewish) land! Look up the documentary channels of rage, part 7, and you can see it. AM YISRAEL CHAI! ;)
bucknastyshimmy 3 years ago
@bucknastyshimmy til7as teeezzii ibnim sharmoot :) hw bout that for arabic :) HAHAHAAHAHHAH sharmoo6
HSMFREEK14 1 year ago
And since when is the number 1500 dead just simply a number? The last comment was disgusting, and TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT. Not to mention Israel's own involvement in the Lebanese civil war, Jordan civil war. And last but not least, all those Palestinians killed that Tutumovies seems to be 'concerned' about, well their problem as refugees whould not have arised if the Zionist Imperialist state of Israel was not established in the first place. Shame on you, and God have mercy on all dead.
Saffouri 3 years ago 3
Was there any war in the last decade that finnished with 1500 death ??
Massacre & Genocide pop up only when Palestinians die.
How do you call suecide bombers in busses ?
Iran-Iraq 1980 - 1 million dead !
Jordan - black september 1970- 50'000 dead Palestinians.
Lebanon cevil war 1976 6 years - 100'000 dead.
Algiria cevil war 5 years 500'000 dead.
Syria Hamat revolt 1 month - 100'000 dead.
(all above is arab killing one another - no Trafalgar rally on that..)
1500 = massacre ??
TuduMovies 3 years ago
Very true. People don't pay attention to what is going on in the Congo. Darfur, people have stopped paying attention to it. People just can't stand the thought of a Jewish state. But, we Jews are used to being blamed for everything. Frankly, these protestors can say whatever they want. I know Israel lives and is a safe place for the Jews of the world!
bucknastyshimmy 3 years ago
Palestine was a safe place for Jews before Israel was created. The Muslim world has always been a safe haven for Jews. The European Christians were the ones who persecuted you and you are now persecuting the Muslims who used to let you live in peace. Today in Yemen, a Muslim country, there are jews who do not feel the need to go to Israel and dispossess people of their homes. The whole world should be a safe haven for jews. Israel should not exist at the expense of Palestine ans Palestinains.
DulbahanteGirl 3 years ago 2
The Muslim world has definitely not been a safe haven for Jews. There were pogroms, blood libels, anti-Jewish laws, and all sorts of persecution against Jew. In many places, Jews couldn't walk on the sidewalks if a Muslim was. The VAST MAJORITY of Yemeni Jews did go to Israel. The world should be a safe haven for Jews, but it is NOT, has never been, and only because of Israel, is there a safe place for Jews. Israel represents Jews realizing the harsh reality of the world.
bucknastyshimmy 3 years ago
No need to be safe for Jews .. They have to go back for their homes and it will be more safe for them
middleasternguy 2 years ago
not sure what this means exactly..language barrier? but, if you are trying to suggest that Jews are not at home in Israel, then you are sadly mistaken. As a Jewish person, being in Israel feels more like home than anything!
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
"feels more like home" why?? they r not in thier home in Israel ???
middleasternguy 2 years ago
Yes they are. Israel is the spiritual and ancestral home of the Jewish people. It always has been. At the end of passover, always, "Next year in Jerusalem!" I've been, i've felt the connection. And, as long as the arab and muslim world deny Jews right to Israel, they will always lose.
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
We will see :)
middleasternguy 2 years ago
Then why do most Jews not live in Israel?
Also aren't 30% of people who live in Israel are not Jewish? I think Israel has outlived its usefulness.
petersz98 2 years ago
to the first part, obvious historical circumstances, assimilation, the comfortable setting of the United States, etc.
to the second part, 20%. some are druzim, which are very loyal to israel and the jews. some are bedouins, who are bcoming more loyal to israel. the rest are "1948 arabs" who are mostly not particularly loyal to israel.
and as long as israel serves as a safe haven and a home for Jewish people, it will never have "outlived its usefulness" (whatever anti-semitic bs that is)
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
If I was Jewish the last place on earth I would want to live is Israel. I think support for Israel is collapsing in the West even amongst Jews. It can't even claim to be Jewish anymore as it doesn't adhere to the moral code of Judaism. The Ten commandents say don't kill or steal. Obviously Barak, Livni, Netenyahu don't seam to be observing The Ten Commandments but then they are not religious. Come to think Israelis as a whole cannot even observe the Ten Commandments so how can it be Jewish?
petersz98 2 years ago
actually, the ten commandments say "dont murder". self defense is ok. israel fights all about self preservation and self defense. also, you can be jewish but not be very religious. Israeli people are quite secular. much more so than americans (by a loooong shot). only about 10% of jews in israel are orthodox. and, the steal part...you cant steal what is yours...israel is ours, we cant steal it, it can only be stolen from us....
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
also, search "subliminal baladi". The song will give you an impression of how Jews feel about their home, Israel.
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
Try as people may Israel is not a democracy as understood on the Western model. It is the only country in the entire world which is not the state of its citizens, but instead is the state of a people of who the vast majority don't live there! Incredibly it doesn't even have a constitution because its never been able to reconcile how to be both a Jewish state and a democracy at the same time something which is impossible. Israel is in fact an ethnocracy not a democracy.
petersz98 2 years ago
When 100 times more people are being killed on one side more than another you cannot call it a war it is a massacre. Wars are fought between sides of usually equal strength. Massacres are where one side has almost no means of defending itself. The German attack on the Warsaw Ghetto was a massacre likewise the Israeli attack on the Gaza Ghetto was a massacre also.
petersz98 2 years ago
No, 1:100 thats not the meaning of massace.
The attack on Getto Warsaw was NOT a massace too. because Jews were fighting there against the Germans.
The Germans had been sending 800,000 people a year long, in 20,000 at each train, two hours away to Treblinka to be killed within gas chambers. 800,000 !!! Women ! children ! skinny starved children on purpose ! to be murdered.
In new days wars when the war is in populated places, much more cevilians get killed. Its still not a massacre.
TuduMovies 2 years ago
I am sorry and not happy with any of cevilians killed. ours or thiers.
Israeli army fought in full power for 2 weeks in all Gaza cities. The most populated erea in the world !! Fighting from house to house, with dozen of boobytraps, seucide bomers.. we used a lot of fire power ! with 1500 killed of which 300 cevilians were killed too..
If we wanted to Massacre the Palestinians.. belive me, and you know it too.. we could have wiped out thousands of people in that crowded strip. And we did not.
TuduMovies 2 years ago
Ever heard of an army who calles the house by phone (!) before an air strike ?? to warn cevilians out !!
When in the basment there is a Quassam missiles warehouse, and in the rest of the building cevilians live..
IDF call in advance to warn them out.
Who else does that ? Hammas suecide man going on a bus and warning the people he is going to blow ?!
Or calling the waitress at a Cafe' saying "tell everyone to leave.. I am going to blow in 5 minutes.."
No ! thats massacre aimimg at cevilians
TuduMovies 2 years ago
Even many terrorist organisations have the decency to give warnings before bombings! That is very appropriate because that is exactly what the IDF is a terrorist organisation! Are you telling me that all the hospitals, schools, mosques bombed that all these were military targets. No. This was a deliberate attack on the civilian population.
petersz98 2 years ago
Exept the IRA in the 80s, which were Cristians when did an Arab terrorist organization ever gave warning to avoid cevilian killed ??
Thats a crazy statment.. they AIM at cevilians !!
9/11 ?
Madrid ?
Jerusalem ?
London ?
Tel Aviv ?
TuduMovies 2 years ago
Well the IDF deliberately targets civilians that makes it a terrorist organisation.
It's not me who is saying it's is one of Israel's main newspapers and I've read it it's all in Haaretz and it's online. According to them they interviewed soldiers who had been given orders that it was OK to kill civilians men, women children, babies gunned down Nazi style.
I've seen Al Jezeera showing the dead . Are these people terrorists? Are Al Jezeera and Haaretz, both highly respected, wrong.
petersz98 2 years ago
once again, israel does not target civs...and once again, godwins effin law. please stop mentioning nazis you f*ktard. learn about the history of the Shoah before saying such stupid things
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
Israel does target civilians and that's according to Israel's quality newspaper Haaretz and Israeli Human Rights Organisation B'tsalem and the National Lawyers Guild of the USA. So are you saying they are wrong! Israel has refused to co-operate with a UN investigation. This means it's got something to hide. Norway has issued warrants for the arrest of Livni, Barak and Olmert for war crimes. If I was any of these three I would not go on holiday to Norway!
petersz98 2 years ago
I will give you a quote from the National Lawyers Guild report of the USA who have been to Gaza.
"The delegation recorded numerous accounts of Israeli soldiers shooting civilians, including women, children, and the elderly, in the head, chest, and stomach. Another common narrative described Israeli forces rounding civilians into a single location i.e., homes, schools which Israeli tanks or warplanes then shelled. Israeli forces continued to shoot at civilians fleeing the targeted structures".
petersz98 2 years ago
a) israel DEFENSE forces are not terrorists. b) hamas does not give warnings, and directly targets civilains. IF israel TARGETED civilains, imagine what the numbers would be. the civilians that died were relatively small because of the force israel was using against hamas. hamas is like a parasite living amongst civilians, it is very hard to fight them in such a dense area and not have civilian casualties.
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
Then why does Israel not co-operate with United Nations investigation into the Massacre. If it's got not nothing to hide and it really is what Ehud Barak laughingly calls "the most moral army in the world" it would not hesitate to co-operate to proove to the world it commited no war crimes. The fact that it refuses strongly suggests its got something to hide and that it has committed war crimes.
petersz98 2 years ago
Dictionary definition of a massacre "To kill in considerable numbers where much resistance can not be made; to kill with indiscriminate violence, without necessity, and contrary to the usages of nations; to butcher; to slaughter - limited to the killing of human beings". Gaza has no army, no navy, no way of defending itself the people were trapped with no way to get out. Israeli soldiers indiscriminately killed defenceless unarmed civilians and this is according to Haaretz. That is a massacre.
petersz98 2 years ago
Gaza has no army ??
Then who the hell was shooting 6000 rockets and mortars for 2 years AFTER all the settelments have been dismanteled and all IDF went out ??
They are not an army, they are Terror organisation.
Guerilla fighters fight armies.
Hamas fights cevilians.
TuduMovies 2 years ago
You forgot to mention the blockading of Gaza. Gaza is still under military occupation as Israel controls its airspace, borders and coastline. All organisations agree on this including B'tsalem the Israeli Human Rights Organisation and the UN. And by the blockading a terrority is an act of war.
As for the rockets they are mostly home-made out of scrap metal, anyone could make them in a few hours. Only the tiny little town of Sderot is mainly affected and one or two border towns such as Ashkelon.
petersz98 2 years ago
the Gaza people say they are under blockage.. and "starving".. but tons of explosives are smuggled in the hundreds of tunnels..
Ever wonderd why they don't smuggle food ?
1. because Hammas doesnt really care for the people, its more concerned with being a murderus group.
2. Hundreds of supply trucks go in and out of Gaza every day !! But you there in Europe will never see it or know about it, because they want you to think its "Getto Warsa" over there..
TuduMovies 2 years ago
If you wish, and we will found a way to do it.. I will send you pictures from the palestinian parlament (pictures that where self censored..) showing them sitting with candles (because of the "terrible blockade which causes a humanitary crissis..") and behind them you see (!) the windows are covered with blankets (!) to make the room dark (!) while its clear daylight outside !!
I can understand how you see the conflict, when huge miss-information is shown.. but if you open your mind..
TuduMovies 2 years ago
Well that's very interesting because Israel bombed Gaza's Power Station in 2006 causing a humanitarian crisis with life support systems in hospitals and water treatment systems because it couldn't be repaired quickly enough. It has still not been properly repaired. Israel also restricts fuel to the station so people have regular blackouts. People in Gaza have to use cooking oil to power their cars because a shortage of petrol. I do not beleive you can produce any evidence!
petersz98 2 years ago
I bet they were using blankets to cover their windows because you cannot get glass in Gaza because Israels blocks all building materials. Easily explained!
petersz98 2 years ago
See, thats what what I mean..
Even if the facts do not settle with the common brain wash propoganda.. people in europe will twist the truth so it will fit to the Israel=Satan picture.
If there is no piece of fact that can make you as a thinking human being - think.. then what's the point of us debating ? I know life in Gaza are shit, I know cevilians suffer.
The world is not black & white.
People who try to force you to think that either succeed.. or think you are so stupid its worth trying.
TuduMovies 2 years ago
It's you Israelis who have been brainwashed. Why don't you read Haaretz or watch Al Jeerzera you will get the truth from them.
petersz98 2 years ago
Haarezt, is only one (smallest) from 3 major newspapers. Its known for its exstrem line -opposing left wing.
Like in USA, the NY Times and the washington Post have deffernt agenda's.
The Haaretz posted hearing eveidence, of soilders who "heard" "others" speak they heard about such shooting.
I know you really really want it to be true !!!
Yes ! that will make the pre-fixed thoughts even stronger.
Actually there is not ANY piece of fact that will make you think otherwise. So what the use..
TuduMovies 2 years ago
Did you write comments like this when busses were blowing up in Tel Aviv ? Did you write comments when cevilians in Cafes were thorn to pieces in Jerusalem ?
Did Trafalgar square filled with raging people when 350 people (only cevilians) blow up in march 2002 ?
Or Massacare is a frase saved only when palestinians die ?
TuduMovies 2 years ago
I am sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound personal.
Its just that when Israelies are killed, blown, shot.. too many people have some kind of logic political excuse for that..
Think of a suecide bomber going on a school buss full of Israeli children, looking them all in the eyes.. and blowing !
It never filled trafalgar..
1 year ago, Russia invaded Georgia, 1500 cevilians were killed.. in one month fighting.. did anyone care ?
Hundreds are killed in Iraq by muslims.. every month.. so what
TuduMovies 2 years ago
godwins law, godwins law, godwins law!!!!
bucknastyshimmy 2 years ago
Good job guys (Y)
Viva Palestine
ha3ha3 3 years ago
shivers even though i dont understand it. such passion
ekheezi 3 years ago
Reem Kelani is not against the "Iraqis" using this poem. As an oppponent of the war on Iraq, she is against the Coalition Government in Iraq using "Mawtini", tainted by the Bush Administration's role in its creation. Also, the fact that the poet is Palestinian is not just the only reason that makes this poem "Palestinian", but the Palestinians have always used it as their "unofficial" national anthem from the thirties to this day, and so we should always make sure that people remember that.
Saffouri 3 years ago 2
Good effort, I love this poem.
Why not allow Iraqis to use this poem though?
It's not like they claim to be the authors of it. A Palestinian is the author of the poem, but it belongs to all Arabs in my opinion.
Long live Palestine
jackcordicom 3 years ago
Free beloved Palestine
Wurood1976 3 years ago 3
Sent shivers down my spine... So proud...
omardxb 3 years ago
i am so proud ya reem its sooooo beautiful habibti we miss you darling
monakabbani 3 years ago
Beautiful Reem!
Long live humanity.
schema 3 years ago
The government of Israel murder children. Let's bring justice to the Palestinian people by having a War Crimes Trial and hanging those responsible...FORCE Israel to rebuild EVERY brick in Gaza and also in Lebanon.
minstral2 3 years ago 2
minstral2 well said thank u
Wurood1976 3 years ago
she was amazing!!! she sang the song amazingly! but the ppl were so loud in the crowd and she waited for them to be quiet lol
XoXarabstaniXoX 3 years ago
Free Palestine! a much oppressed people let there be peace for everyone. Including the Jews. Hopefully a good leader will rise up among your people who can look forward in a positive way and try to put the horrors of the past behind. No more religious rethoric or revenge, but a constructive plan how to make peace and develop the country in a prosperous way. Such a long way to go.
NecipPerver 3 years ago