@dontlike2bfedwith Depends on a lot of things. If you use crumby oil or don't clean it well enough you can damage your engine, and then yes, it is harder to start. You can also forget to purge your fuel system before shutting it down which makes it harder to start, or do your conversion wrong etc... Basically, do it wrong and yes you can damage your engine, do it right and you'll never know a difference. I know people who have 300k miles on wvo conversions w/ no problems.
@HedgehogOutdoors Between my brothers and I, we've owned quite a few of them, and they've been great! Just sold a cargo van with around 260k miles running great, have a suburban with 290k miles still running great on the original trans with no major work since we bought it at 150k miles, just junked a plow truck at 240k miles (truck had rusted away), sold my black truck (in the video) with 225k miles running strong, picked up another one at 240k miles, using it as a plow truck (runs like new)...
@HedgehogOutdoors They seem like great engines and will run forever if you do a couple things... On older 6.5l's, make sure they don't overheat if you use them for towing on steep grades or with huge loads. If you need, upgrade to the cooling system installed on the newer 6.5l diesels. A big help for these is an after-market chip that controls the trans (otherwise under heavy use the trans' seem to burn up around 200k miles). Other than that, they love being driven hard and given idle time.
@HedgehogOutdoors I talked to a guy that was a 6.5l diesel specialist for a dealer since the early 90's and he said: "The engines are built to be beat upon. So make sure you beat on them!" He said their biggest enemy is the person who babies them. lol I'm a big fan of the 1992 and 1993 6.5l TD's... Good engines, but not really powerhouses.
@JonathanErber Ok, thanks for the help. I like the sound of those engines but I haven't heard many good things about them. I would probably be the person that babies it driving around so I can save money, but offroad I would be full throttle. Chevy trucks can handle it lol
do you run it through the ip or is the fuel pump you showed on video sending right into injection system i have electronic ip on a 95 with veggie conversion and am told not to use it will mess up pump. have you had any problems from long term usage of veg. nice looking system diff than mine. i have coolant lines in my tank to heat up veg but looks like yours you can use without up to temp
The only way to get the engine to run is for your fuel to go through the ip. So yes, it feeds the ip and the ip pumps to the injectors. Mine is a 1993 so it has the mechanical ip... Not sure how the electronic ip would stand up to WVO personally.
@JonathanErber I've got a '96 6.5 with an electronic ip with about 15000 km clocked so far & no problems (knock on wood). I did replace the ip before converting though but I put a used one in. It had about 100,000 km on it. I just did a video of my oil cleaning system & will do one for the truck soon. Mine's a lot simpler than yours though. For one thing, I didn't bother with the gauges. Just a 2nd tank with a hot fox, a fuel switching valve, heated filter and an inline electric heater.
wow you did that to such a nice engine. eweeee. biodiesel is the key .. look up american society of diesel engineers. svo is not good for the life cycle of your diesel if you really care about it.
From what I've read about converting the Powerstroke, and from the Powerstroke conversion that I built (but never got a chance to install), the 7.3l Powerstroke is significantly easier to convert than the 6.5l TD that I have here.
Was the Chevy conversion hard? Does this year have two tanks or did you have to add a tank? My dad converted a Ford and says that they are supposed to be the easiest to convert. And I prefer Cummins. What do you think?
I guess it all depends what you're used to. It was a decent amount of work, but I could probably do it more or less by myself in two full days of work. Probably about 28 hours. That's from parts in a bag to a complete running system.
I haven't actually converted a Powerstroke, but I almost did (bought all the parts and had it all planned out). I would agree the Ford is far easier to convert!
Cummins... Not sure on the conversion process, but going to guess that if you were to convert. . . .
That is correct, although I do heat just enough so that the pump can easily suck the oil out of the tank. All the heat you really need in the tank though is enough warmth to get the oil to flow to the fuel pickup, from there it'll get heated the rest of the way as it heads towards the engine.
So you do want some heat in the tank, but don't try to heat the whole tank to operating temperature. That would be highly impractical.
Yeah, shoot me an email with your phone number and such. Some of the stuff I had custom fabricated (red mounting plates), so if you want to use my whole mounting setup let me know cause I had a few extras made (all black in color). I've also made some modifications to the conversion since the video. lol
Oh no, it's a heater that I made out of a brass 'T' in my fuel line and a glow plug, it's not the glow plugs that are down in the engine. This fuel heater never heats the oil to over 180 degrees.
i herd the vegy oil trucks are harder 2 start is this true?
dontlike2bfedwith 8 months ago
@dontlike2bfedwith Depends on a lot of things. If you use crumby oil or don't clean it well enough you can damage your engine, and then yes, it is harder to start. You can also forget to purge your fuel system before shutting it down which makes it harder to start, or do your conversion wrong etc... Basically, do it wrong and yes you can damage your engine, do it right and you'll never know a difference. I know people who have 300k miles on wvo conversions w/ no problems.
JonathanErber 8 months ago
Has this engine been reliable for you guys that have them?
HedgehogOutdoors 10 months ago
@HedgehogOutdoors Between my brothers and I, we've owned quite a few of them, and they've been great! Just sold a cargo van with around 260k miles running great, have a suburban with 290k miles still running great on the original trans with no major work since we bought it at 150k miles, just junked a plow truck at 240k miles (truck had rusted away), sold my black truck (in the video) with 225k miles running strong, picked up another one at 240k miles, using it as a plow truck (runs like new)...
JonathanErber 10 months ago
@HedgehogOutdoors They seem like great engines and will run forever if you do a couple things... On older 6.5l's, make sure they don't overheat if you use them for towing on steep grades or with huge loads. If you need, upgrade to the cooling system installed on the newer 6.5l diesels. A big help for these is an after-market chip that controls the trans (otherwise under heavy use the trans' seem to burn up around 200k miles). Other than that, they love being driven hard and given idle time.
JonathanErber 10 months ago
@HedgehogOutdoors I talked to a guy that was a 6.5l diesel specialist for a dealer since the early 90's and he said: "The engines are built to be beat upon. So make sure you beat on them!" He said their biggest enemy is the person who babies them. lol I'm a big fan of the 1992 and 1993 6.5l TD's... Good engines, but not really powerhouses.
JonathanErber 10 months ago
@JonathanErber Ok, thanks for the help. I like the sound of those engines but I haven't heard many good things about them. I would probably be the person that babies it driving around so I can save money, but offroad I would be full throttle. Chevy trucks can handle it lol
HedgehogOutdoors 10 months ago
Nice setup
mengle2004 10 months ago
do you have a manual injection pump with this?? can you switch on the go to diesel form vegie oil or do you need to stop? very cool setup by the way.
johntylerkerlin 1 year ago
do you run it through the ip or is the fuel pump you showed on video sending right into injection system i have electronic ip on a 95 with veggie conversion and am told not to use it will mess up pump. have you had any problems from long term usage of veg. nice looking system diff than mine. i have coolant lines in my tank to heat up veg but looks like yours you can use without up to temp
The01time 1 year ago
The only way to get the engine to run is for your fuel to go through the ip. So yes, it feeds the ip and the ip pumps to the injectors. Mine is a 1993 so it has the mechanical ip... Not sure how the electronic ip would stand up to WVO personally.
JonathanErber 1 year ago
@JonathanErber I've got a '96 6.5 with an electronic ip with about 15000 km clocked so far & no problems (knock on wood). I did replace the ip before converting though but I put a used one in. It had about 100,000 km on it. I just did a video of my oil cleaning system & will do one for the truck soon. Mine's a lot simpler than yours though. For one thing, I didn't bother with the gauges. Just a 2nd tank with a hot fox, a fuel switching valve, heated filter and an inline electric heater.
whatsaguytodo 1 year ago
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pl6yb9y 2 weeks ago
Im thinking of trying this on my 83 suburban 6.2. How has yours lasted? what mpg? any other problems?
chrismandile 1 year ago
wow you did that to such a nice engine. eweeee. biodiesel is the key .. look up american society of diesel engineers. svo is not good for the life cycle of your diesel if you really care about it.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
I've been wanting to do this to like an older Ford F350, prolly a 2000-2003 model, is your set up more complex than a basic WVO system,?
alexisdmicaedu 2 years ago
From what I've read about converting the Powerstroke, and from the Powerstroke conversion that I built (but never got a chance to install), the 7.3l Powerstroke is significantly easier to convert than the 6.5l TD that I have here.
JonathanErber 2 years ago
Was the Chevy conversion hard? Does this year have two tanks or did you have to add a tank? My dad converted a Ford and says that they are supposed to be the easiest to convert. And I prefer Cummins. What do you think?
wingsplu 2 years ago
I guess it all depends what you're used to. It was a decent amount of work, but I could probably do it more or less by myself in two full days of work. Probably about 28 hours. That's from parts in a bag to a complete running system.
I haven't actually converted a Powerstroke, but I almost did (bought all the parts and had it all planned out). I would agree the Ford is far easier to convert!
Cummins... Not sure on the conversion process, but going to guess that if you were to convert. . . .
JonathanErber 2 years ago
. . . .an older one, it'd be pretty much the same as the Chevy conversion. This would also go for the older 6.9l and 7.3l non-powerstroke Fords.
If it were up to me I'd do a Cummins swap in a Chevy. Can't stand Dodge!
Yeah, quite possibly my next project will be a 4bt Cummins swap into a manual-trans' Suburban. Tuned for 30mpg highway. :)
JonathanErber 2 years ago
so you dont have to heat the oil in the tank, only when it hits the engine bay (fuel filter)?
idusclothing 2 years ago
That is correct, although I do heat just enough so that the pump can easily suck the oil out of the tank. All the heat you really need in the tank though is enough warmth to get the oil to flow to the fuel pickup, from there it'll get heated the rest of the way as it heads towards the engine.
So you do want some heat in the tank, but don't try to heat the whole tank to operating temperature. That would be highly impractical.
JonathanErber 2 years ago
Really informative. Good clip.
Ruler2009 2 years ago
Thanks! I have made some changes since then, but if you have any other questions let me know!
JonathanErber 2 years ago
Mufflers are for sissies!
SakoTGrimes 2 years ago 2
I have a 93 GMC 6.5. I would like to mimic your set up. Do you have a parts list you would be willing to share?
TheGreatDemers 2 years ago
Yeah, shoot me an email with your phone number and such. Some of the stuff I had custom fabricated (red mounting plates), so if you want to use my whole mounting setup let me know cause I had a few extras made (all black in color). I've also made some modifications to the conversion since the video. lol
JonathanErber 2 years ago
that engine sound is savage!!
caussabon 2 years ago
Thanks man. :D
JonathanErber 2 years ago
so your glow plug heater? you run your glow plugs constantly that will burn them out
macman216 2 years ago
Oh no, it's a heater that I made out of a brass 'T' in my fuel line and a glow plug, it's not the glow plugs that are down in the engine. This fuel heater never heats the oil to over 180 degrees.
JonathanErber 2 years ago