There was a protest requesting Bush's arrest when he came to Calgary. These weren't hippies either. It was a group of legal professionals. Lawyers, law students, etc. The Bush's admin team can't travel to EU anymore for same reason. Obama may not want the heat, but some do. As to people hating TYT here, that's your right, but based on the fact that US progressives will attack Dems when just weak, let alone corrupt, the heart Rove crap seems at best hollow, at worst, GOP projection.
Seriously, think of the joy you get watching these Turks -- like this bloated fat fuck here in this clip -- rambling away their utter bullshit and making complete fools of themselves on camera. It's what YouTube is all about!
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the young turks suck ... a muslim commentator that's a liberal .... sooo fucking shocking.
the entire democratic party should be thrown in prison for treason. I especially love when al gore goes overseas and talks about his own country -- it's truly magically.
Basically for the same reason Nixon wasn't in jail. Politics. Personally, I think the whole group of architects of the Bush Doctrine should be rounded up and sent to the Hague.
While the citizen's arrest is legal, it's more for show than anything and would be an ideal way to harass Rove legally. The entire Bush cabinet should be arrested along with Bush and Cheney and the whole lot tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Remember people, it is your duty as Americans to stand up to your government and say "no" when it's behaving badly. We should be running the gov't--not the other way around.
Government of the people, by the people and for the people.
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This guy is an idiot and the ppl who watch this garbage r probly 14 yr olds they prey on. all far left communist propaganda "boo hoo fox news" real intelligent commentary even tho every other news station is soooo even. rip on palins clothes and joe the plumbers voting record, but who cares about ayres, odinga, wright, or obamas 100% leftist policies.
arrest karl rove?? u kids shouldnt fall for this. look how smart that lady looks who tried to arrest him, bunch of idiots
Bill Clinton is much more deserving of a citizen's arrest. He personally picked out and bombed one of the only Sudanese medical facilities in their country. The initial bombing only killed one person, but the loss of medical supplies resulted in the deaths of several thousand innocent people. Karl Rove holds no official political power. He's a Presidential advisor. Bill Clinton is a war criminal.
This man is an idiot. How about a citizens arrest for Bill Clinton? He actually admitted to committing a crime during his presidency. Why not arrest democrats Charlie Wrangle or Claire McCaskill for tax evasion. Every political figure is accused by some people of breaking laws. The Young Turks is a pseudo news network of far left partisan hacks. They don't hold their side to the same standards.
Minotek, what mass murder did Karl Rove architect? Supporting the decision to liberate a foreign state does not equate to genocide. You and your fellow frenchmen are the first to bitch about American wars, but if it wasn't for our military in WWII France would not exist today. The French can waive their white flags and cry for appeasement, but somebody has to fight religious fascism. Somebody has to stand for secular democracy.
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BCRice shut the fuck up. Go find some other far left faggot to blow u. Is that really all u have to say? Ur a dumb piece of shit. I hope you get aids and die you pig. Be one less welfare or food stamp form our government has to pay out. Ur one dumb mother fucker. After ur done sucking ur obamassiah's dick why don't u go kill yourself. I'm sick of low life leeches like u eating my tax money in the form of a government handout.
How can you arrest political leaders of the most powerfull country in the world? Yes they commited war crimes, and are war criminals but nobody has enough power to stop them.
Rove is literally the behind the scenes sith lord of the american government. If anything he is the Barzini to Bushes Tattaglia. He is a crook and one of the major driving forces behind bush.
karl rove got his ass served. he n contempt of the court he helped shape. he got alberto gonzalez caught up in that conservative judge-stacking shit. they gon probably change the rule and somehow drop the case. U JUST WATCH WHAT I SAY!!!!
Citizen's arrest can't be attempted on a public figure or at least that is what I think. Which is probably why they got arrested.
I think if people really hate Bush and his supposed warcrimes then I wonder why don't they have the same passion for other warcriminals in the world? I think it is because they didn't beat them in an election in 2000. But that is just my opinion.
Bush didn't beat them in an election 2000... Part from that, how does the law define "public figure"? Does it include Britney Spears or is it just for politicians? The latter would be reasonable, though.
Rove is trash in so many ways. He has almost singlehandedly changed the free exchange of ideas and cooperation that has existed from the beginning of our country to resolve problems and advance positive agendas by reducing the process to what amounts to little more than childish, but harmful, antics. In other words negativity and lies.
Unfortunately, I had far overestimated the intelligence of the US people. In short, the US electorate doesn't care about TRUTH, just headlines, true or not.
Awesome guy to. i've seen him being interviewed on Fox news and they asked him about the Obama/Osama contreversy and he said there is no validity to Obama being connected to islamic terrorist organization and we (the republican party) shouldn't use that because we are above that kind of petiness. I don't hear to many politicians say that to much.
I just want to point out that in order to make a citizen's arrest in the united states you have to have personally witnessed the person committing the crime in question and it must be a felony. Just in case anyone really tries this and then gets confused when they're arrested for abduction.
i am aware of that and I'm really hoping that it'll end with the general in arms throwing him in a congressional prison cell. However, I do not believe that contempt is a felony. Further, since it is impossible to witness a crime by omission that would simply mean that no one can make a citizens arrest in this case.
I think it's actually a federal misdemeanor, but I'm sure there are many that consider arresting Karl Rove to be the lesser evil. As far as the technical legality of citizen's arrests, it all depends on how and where it's conducted. It's my understanding that Mr. Rove travels a great deal.
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I say we all get together and form a militia full of people with guns and arms, and throw them down, and refuse to move from our location! We will not fight back with weapons, we will fight back with our chants and calls for peace and the arrests of Republican War Criminals!
thats dumb. Rove criminalized himself BY BREAKING THE LAW!!!! your probably one of those people that think this country should be a monarchy and our politicians should be all powerful and completely above the law. so.....actually. you and Hitler would probably share many of the same beliefs. Pretty un-american if you ask me. maybe you should move to China if your so fond of fascism.
You're one to talk, calling people dumb and then telling someone to enjoy fascism in china. A) Fascism is a form of corporate monarchy where the government and corporations are effectively one entity. In fact, fascism applies much more readily to the current US environment.
B) China is a COMMUNIST nation, not Fascist. Communism is fiercely opposed to the notion of fascism, the two are strongly divergent and have very little in common apart from a supreme government authority. Research, then talk
first off i never called anyone dumb. but your comment was very dumb. btw China is looking more and more fascist by the day. they spent 13 billion dollars on installing a network of video cameras to spy on their own people.(under guise of security) They banned blacks and mongolians from bars during the olympics. USA has not completely fallen to fascism yet, but the republicans sure are trying. The idea that fascism cannot exist within a communist government is silly and not backed up by facts.
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Fascism [ˈfӕʃizəm] noun
a nationalistic and anti-Communist system of government like that of Italy 1922-43, where all aspects of society are controlled by the state and all criticism or opposition is suppressed.
Further:
"Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality."
Once again, you are apparently confused about the definition of fascism, and the definition of communism for that matter.
The state doesnt have to be 'fascist' to show racism, totalitarnianism, and suspicion. A communist government can do that quite well. The Soviet Union was quite racist, and even after WW2 had a strong distaste for jews. And given that this government was the model for chinese communism, it does not strain the imagination that they should also share these undesirable traits.
To clarify for you, once and for all, Fascism is a nationalistic totalitarian state where only certain essential means of production are nationalized to ensure supply.
Communism is a nationalistic totalitarian state where all means of production are nationalized and all people are employed by the state, NOT to ensure productivity from essential industries, but to force equality in the work force, though unfortunately this goal is difficult to attain, and generally fails in application.
Fascism, unlike communism, is NOT characterized by deep suspicion and self-monitoring. Secret police silence political opposition, but public opposition is silenced by the people, by the leading party's ultra-nationalistic rhetoric. By inspiring a single unifying nationalistic fervor in the masses, the government directs them to monitor themselves, and often holds large, impressive rallies, to reinforce the party mentality through massive rallies, exploiting the hypnotizing mob mentality effect.
this whole argument was kinda pointless from the start since it hinges upon the fact that, as you pointed out "China is COMMUNIST". However they are communist in name only and in reality China doesnt fit perfectly into the def. of any gov. system (U.S. neither). The point that you made about the U.S. being more fascist than China is DEFINATELY an argument that cant win and its kinda cred damaging. to me Chinas lookin pretty fascist, if it walks like a duck... but none of this matters anyway-----
you can try to deflect the point away from your 'china is fascist' assertion as much as you like, but the fact is that China IS communist, there is no such thing as a pure communist or capitalist government, so it's a matter of name and close resemblance in the first place, and the traits YOU associate with fascism are just as much associated with communism.
The reality is that the US is far more 'fascist' than China. In fact, Bush seems to have modeled himself directly on hitler.
Case in point, The Patriot Act. Exploiting a terrorist action (whether real or engineered) to pass legislation to give the executive branch more than its constitutional power, identical to hitler's approach with The Enabling Act, which was also meant to help protect Germany from communist 'Terrorists'. From enhanced executive power and government propaganda to the broad definition of 'terrorist' and the launching of aggressive war against non-aggressor nations, the US fits this definition today.
-- the whole reason this debate started was because you were defending someone for making the comment "Criminalizing political opponents? Hitler would be proud of you." Once again i'll point out, KARL ROVE BROKE THE LAW. BY BREAKING THE LAW HE CRIMINALIZED HIMSELF. Calling someone Hitler because they want to hold politicians responsible for their actions is retarded, so i laid into the person and questioned his patriotism. i think thats the thing to do when someone says something so ridiculous.
Huh? No, this debate started because you made a ridiculous assertion. I fully agree that Karl Rove broke the law and should be punished. In fact there's a lot of people in the current administration who need to be punished. But dont try to redirect the argument just because you founded your side on a precarious assertion. The facts simply state that china is communist, and the US is increasingly fascist in appearance, from the exploitation of executive power to the demonization of 'terrorists'
fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
I've been saying this for quite a while. Whenever one of these war criminals pops out of their whack-a-mole hole to give a speech or receive an honorary degree, someone s/ be there trying to make a citizen's arrest. Every time. They s/ be made to feel as unwelcome as they are. Like the saying goes, maybe if the people lead, the leaders will follow.
in the uk we have a rather effective way of showing discent... we wait until our political 'leaders" come to our constutancy and pelt the sods with rotton fish...
true we get arrested but it's worth it... not many of the sods last long after that!
We all wish dude. We all wish. Unfortunately, he was born in Turkey and not in United States. It would've been SUPER SWEET if he was born in the U.S. and became president.
You dumbass, he's a legal citizen like you. He is a hell of a better American than you will ever be because he has one thing that you don't have... INTELLIGENCE.
...just call it as it is. McCain should stick with the truth and hammer Obama on his past record, not depend upon lies and pass them off as the truth. By the way, one of the images they used in that ad was Obama playing basketball with the troops. He also visited wounded troops where there was not cameras present. Which were the intention of this trip until the department of defense informed Obama that they could not bring a retired service man. That would make it a political trip. Keep it real.
whether you are a McCain supporter or not, you have to call bullshit on McCain last tv ad attacking Obama in not visiting the troops and that McCain is always there for the troops. The republicans are really depending upon Americas laziness to pass this ad. According to congressional records, McCain has either voted against or not voted for bills that would support the troops, including the last one Bush gave him partial credit to. Webb's bill. I'm not trying to change your mind...
There was a protest requesting Bush's arrest when he came to Calgary. These weren't hippies either. It was a group of legal professionals. Lawyers, law students, etc. The Bush's admin team can't travel to EU anymore for same reason. Obama may not want the heat, but some do. As to people hating TYT here, that's your right, but based on the fact that US progressives will attack Dems when just weak, let alone corrupt, the heart Rove crap seems at best hollow, at worst, GOP projection.
Seskal 1 year ago
This guy is a complete idiot. Goi back to Turkey you scumbag
NIKV69 1 year ago
@NIKV69 He sounds American.
hsybcmpny 1 year ago
If Rove was a democrate, all the comments would be like, "Omg <3 Rove!"
twk373 1 year ago
You're a moron...
Vaginuh 1 year ago
This is my comedy channel. The spin is faster than a washing machine and in it very little truth. This guys seems to suffer from self importance.
Beesh03 1 year ago
I LOVE the Young Turks videos.
Seriously, think of the joy you get watching these Turks -- like this bloated fat fuck here in this clip -- rambling away their utter bullshit and making complete fools of themselves on camera. It's what YouTube is all about!
CreativeThinker70 1 year ago
He's no less a traitor than Robert Hannsen. I wouldn't touch him, though, because, I'm Catholic and believe in demonic possession
hopkins4545 1 year ago
this guys a joke and will probably get beat up my Karl Rove eventually
Clearly another loser jealous of Karl Rove's looks, smile, and Luxury Cars
gorkysire 2 years ago
you're a fucking nutt job dude! fucking nutt bubble, fuck!
TBaker1964 2 years ago
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the young turks suck ... a muslim commentator that's a liberal .... sooo fucking shocking.
the entire democratic party should be thrown in prison for treason. I especially love when al gore goes overseas and talks about his own country -- it's truly magically.
bobsandwich98 2 years ago
wait a minute. of coooooourse, it's barney fife, or it's barney rubble. i'm just not sure.
sorry cenk, if i'm gonna follow "potato head", i need a louisville slugger.
tomitstube 2 years ago
Why don't you take your fat fucking ass and get some backing and lets get this fuck instead of just talking about it behind a microphone?
Shut the fuck up and take some action cunt.
alreltney 2 years ago
Roven Must Die
SouthernOregonOrgani 2 years ago
So... remind me again, why is he not in JAIL?
weekdayyardsale 2 years ago 3
Basically for the same reason Nixon wasn't in jail. Politics. Personally, I think the whole group of architects of the Bush Doctrine should be rounded up and sent to the Hague.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
WOO Go New Zealand!!
YafaiGirl 2 years ago
While the citizen's arrest is legal, it's more for show than anything and would be an ideal way to harass Rove legally. The entire Bush cabinet should be arrested along with Bush and Cheney and the whole lot tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Remember people, it is your duty as Americans to stand up to your government and say "no" when it's behaving badly. We should be running the gov't--not the other way around.
Government of the people, by the people and for the people.
ciaochowbella 2 years ago 7
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You should be arrested for being a fucking asshole!!!!!
mcluenmarshall 3 years ago
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Just another left wing propaganda machine.
kylesal 3 years ago
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This guy is an idiot and the ppl who watch this garbage r probly 14 yr olds they prey on. all far left communist propaganda "boo hoo fox news" real intelligent commentary even tho every other news station is soooo even. rip on palins clothes and joe the plumbers voting record, but who cares about ayres, odinga, wright, or obamas 100% leftist policies.
arrest karl rove?? u kids shouldnt fall for this. look how smart that lady looks who tried to arrest him, bunch of idiots
guestnumber2 3 years ago
Bill Clinton is much more deserving of a citizen's arrest. He personally picked out and bombed one of the only Sudanese medical facilities in their country. The initial bombing only killed one person, but the loss of medical supplies resulted in the deaths of several thousand innocent people. Karl Rove holds no official political power. He's a Presidential advisor. Bill Clinton is a war criminal.
coolsywtf 3 years ago
Shutup you stupid moron neo-con fool.
BCRice111 3 years ago
to say karl rove is a scumbag piece of shit is an understatement of mass quantity
rockotica 3 years ago 8
@rockotica Then do something. Clearly he is pure evil and should be in jail. Time to rise up. Are you SHEEPLE or PEOPLE?
Uinvestigate911 1 year ago
This man is an idiot. How about a citizens arrest for Bill Clinton? He actually admitted to committing a crime during his presidency. Why not arrest democrats Charlie Wrangle or Claire McCaskill for tax evasion. Every political figure is accused by some people of breaking laws. The Young Turks is a pseudo news network of far left partisan hacks. They don't hold their side to the same standards.
coolsywtf 3 years ago
Yeah, but Karl Rove could actually be considered an architect of mass murder. There's a big difference between a couple of tax evaders and Rove.
minotek 3 years ago 2
Minotek, what mass murder did Karl Rove architect? Supporting the decision to liberate a foreign state does not equate to genocide. You and your fellow frenchmen are the first to bitch about American wars, but if it wasn't for our military in WWII France would not exist today. The French can waive their white flags and cry for appeasement, but somebody has to fight religious fascism. Somebody has to stand for secular democracy.
coolsywtf 3 years ago
was Rove elected to anything at any time?
he is a loser, and he was for like.... since ever!
but you reps. Who knew!?
jes crhi
Realizalize 3 years ago 2
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Karl Rove ownes the democrats, they are all his bitches...
uthetargetnow 3 years ago
And you are my bitch... now get back on your knees and suck
BCRice111 3 years ago
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BCRice shut the fuck up. Go find some other far left faggot to blow u. Is that really all u have to say? Ur a dumb piece of shit. I hope you get aids and die you pig. Be one less welfare or food stamp form our government has to pay out. Ur one dumb mother fucker. After ur done sucking ur obamassiah's dick why don't u go kill yourself. I'm sick of low life leeches like u eating my tax money in the form of a government handout.
coolsywtf 3 years ago
Karl Rove to Discuss Politics at Claremont McKenna College Tommorow at 6:45 pm
ARREST HIM!
funnyordievideos 3 years ago
How can you arrest political leaders of the most powerfull country in the world? Yes they commited war crimes, and are war criminals but nobody has enough power to stop them.
Irishfreedom 3 years ago 2
I want it to be caught on camera !!
ILoveGoodFellas 3 years ago
Rove KNOWS Pelosi is a sell out and the GOP OWNS her lmao
RushLforPres 3 years ago
Rove is literally the behind the scenes sith lord of the american government. If anything he is the Barzini to Bushes Tattaglia. He is a crook and one of the major driving forces behind bush.
aaronharms123456 3 years ago
karl rove got his ass served. he n contempt of the court he helped shape. he got alberto gonzalez caught up in that conservative judge-stacking shit. they gon probably change the rule and somehow drop the case. U JUST WATCH WHAT I SAY!!!!
shoes1922 3 years ago
we could put Rove in prison by Initiative
oldhacks 3 years ago 2
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This show is retarded.
haupt22 3 years ago
takes one to know one.
WorldBFree2006 3 years ago
I doubt they could get close to him (security)
gardnerbm 3 years ago
Citizen's arrest can't be attempted on a public figure or at least that is what I think. Which is probably why they got arrested.
I think if people really hate Bush and his supposed warcrimes then I wonder why don't they have the same passion for other warcriminals in the world? I think it is because they didn't beat them in an election in 2000. But that is just my opinion.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
Bush didn't beat them in an election 2000... Part from that, how does the law define "public figure"? Does it include Britney Spears or is it just for politicians? The latter would be reasonable, though.
KungPisstank 3 years ago
I'm R, Karl Rove you're under citizens arrest.
Viral? You bet.
chewbaca1989 3 years ago 2
Rove is trash in so many ways. He has almost singlehandedly changed the free exchange of ideas and cooperation that has existed from the beginning of our country to resolve problems and advance positive agendas by reducing the process to what amounts to little more than childish, but harmful, antics. In other words negativity and lies.
Unfortunately, I had far overestimated the intelligence of the US people. In short, the US electorate doesn't care about TRUTH, just headlines, true or not.
shaire99 3 years ago 4
Karl rove is so sexy!
Mik5469 3 years ago
Awesome guy to. i've seen him being interviewed on Fox news and they asked him about the Obama/Osama contreversy and he said there is no validity to Obama being connected to islamic terrorist organization and we (the republican party) shouldn't use that because we are above that kind of petiness. I don't hear to many politicians say that to much.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
I've witnessed Karl Rove commit many offenses & he just moves on ... ignores everyone...even a subpeona from Congress.
THE GUY IS TRASH!
DillonX 3 years ago
I just want to point out that in order to make a citizen's arrest in the united states you have to have personally witnessed the person committing the crime in question and it must be a felony. Just in case anyone really tries this and then gets confused when they're arrested for abduction.
cerealboxconspiracy 3 years ago
Rove is in continual contempt of congress, it's an ongoing crime because he still hasn't honored the summons.
ShriekingDeath 3 years ago 2
i am aware of that and I'm really hoping that it'll end with the general in arms throwing him in a congressional prison cell. However, I do not believe that contempt is a felony. Further, since it is impossible to witness a crime by omission that would simply mean that no one can make a citizens arrest in this case.
cerealboxconspiracy 3 years ago
I think it's actually a federal misdemeanor, but I'm sure there are many that consider arresting Karl Rove to be the lesser evil. As far as the technical legality of citizen's arrests, it all depends on how and where it's conducted. It's my understanding that Mr. Rove travels a great deal.
ShriekingDeath 3 years ago
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iCITIZEnP0WER 3 years ago 4
Karl Rove is a traitor to America. Rove committed an act of treason during wartime. He must be tried and executed.
Richardgwm 3 years ago 4
Being a Republican is not a crime, yet.
Duke1839 3 years ago
braking to law is a crime however!
grahamkeithtodd 3 years ago
Maybe impersonating a Republican is. Bush & Co. have been doing that for about 8 years.
Boobalopbop 3 years ago
I say we all get together and form a militia full of people with guns and arms, and throw them down, and refuse to move from our location! We will not fight back with weapons, we will fight back with our chants and calls for peace and the arrests of Republican War Criminals!
Tyler1337Admin 3 years ago
political opponets???lol more like evil i don't give a fuck neo-cons
tomdamho 3 years ago 2
Criminalizing political opponents? Hitler would be proud of you.
Duke1839 3 years ago
thats dumb. Rove criminalized himself BY BREAKING THE LAW!!!! your probably one of those people that think this country should be a monarchy and our politicians should be all powerful and completely above the law. so.....actually. you and Hitler would probably share many of the same beliefs. Pretty un-american if you ask me. maybe you should move to China if your so fond of fascism.
BillyVillain 3 years ago 3
You're one to talk, calling people dumb and then telling someone to enjoy fascism in china. A) Fascism is a form of corporate monarchy where the government and corporations are effectively one entity. In fact, fascism applies much more readily to the current US environment.
B) China is a COMMUNIST nation, not Fascist. Communism is fiercely opposed to the notion of fascism, the two are strongly divergent and have very little in common apart from a supreme government authority. Research, then talk
Etimos 3 years ago
first off i never called anyone dumb. but your comment was very dumb. btw China is looking more and more fascist by the day. they spent 13 billion dollars on installing a network of video cameras to spy on their own people.(under guise of security) They banned blacks and mongolians from bars during the olympics. USA has not completely fallen to fascism yet, but the republicans sure are trying. The idea that fascism cannot exist within a communist government is silly and not backed up by facts.
BillyVillain 3 years ago
Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
Fascism [ˈfӕʃizəm] noun
a nationalistic and anti-Communist system of government like that of Italy 1922-43, where all aspects of society are controlled by the state and all criticism or opposition is suppressed.
Further:
"Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality."
Etimos 3 years ago
Once again, you are apparently confused about the definition of fascism, and the definition of communism for that matter.
The state doesnt have to be 'fascist' to show racism, totalitarnianism, and suspicion. A communist government can do that quite well. The Soviet Union was quite racist, and even after WW2 had a strong distaste for jews. And given that this government was the model for chinese communism, it does not strain the imagination that they should also share these undesirable traits.
Etimos 3 years ago
To clarify for you, once and for all, Fascism is a nationalistic totalitarian state where only certain essential means of production are nationalized to ensure supply.
Communism is a nationalistic totalitarian state where all means of production are nationalized and all people are employed by the state, NOT to ensure productivity from essential industries, but to force equality in the work force, though unfortunately this goal is difficult to attain, and generally fails in application.
Etimos 3 years ago
Fascism, unlike communism, is NOT characterized by deep suspicion and self-monitoring. Secret police silence political opposition, but public opposition is silenced by the people, by the leading party's ultra-nationalistic rhetoric. By inspiring a single unifying nationalistic fervor in the masses, the government directs them to monitor themselves, and often holds large, impressive rallies, to reinforce the party mentality through massive rallies, exploiting the hypnotizing mob mentality effect.
Etimos 3 years ago
this whole argument was kinda pointless from the start since it hinges upon the fact that, as you pointed out "China is COMMUNIST". However they are communist in name only and in reality China doesnt fit perfectly into the def. of any gov. system (U.S. neither). The point that you made about the U.S. being more fascist than China is DEFINATELY an argument that cant win and its kinda cred damaging. to me Chinas lookin pretty fascist, if it walks like a duck... but none of this matters anyway-----
BillyVillain 3 years ago
you can try to deflect the point away from your 'china is fascist' assertion as much as you like, but the fact is that China IS communist, there is no such thing as a pure communist or capitalist government, so it's a matter of name and close resemblance in the first place, and the traits YOU associate with fascism are just as much associated with communism.
The reality is that the US is far more 'fascist' than China. In fact, Bush seems to have modeled himself directly on hitler.
Etimos 3 years ago
Case in point, The Patriot Act. Exploiting a terrorist action (whether real or engineered) to pass legislation to give the executive branch more than its constitutional power, identical to hitler's approach with The Enabling Act, which was also meant to help protect Germany from communist 'Terrorists'. From enhanced executive power and government propaganda to the broad definition of 'terrorist' and the launching of aggressive war against non-aggressor nations, the US fits this definition today.
Etimos 3 years ago
-- the whole reason this debate started was because you were defending someone for making the comment "Criminalizing political opponents? Hitler would be proud of you." Once again i'll point out, KARL ROVE BROKE THE LAW. BY BREAKING THE LAW HE CRIMINALIZED HIMSELF. Calling someone Hitler because they want to hold politicians responsible for their actions is retarded, so i laid into the person and questioned his patriotism. i think thats the thing to do when someone says something so ridiculous.
BillyVillain 3 years ago
Huh? No, this debate started because you made a ridiculous assertion. I fully agree that Karl Rove broke the law and should be punished. In fact there's a lot of people in the current administration who need to be punished. But dont try to redirect the argument just because you founded your side on a precarious assertion. The facts simply state that china is communist, and the US is increasingly fascist in appearance, from the exploitation of executive power to the demonization of 'terrorists'
Etimos 3 years ago
fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
BillyVillain 3 years ago
I've been saying this for quite a while. Whenever one of these war criminals pops out of their whack-a-mole hole to give a speech or receive an honorary degree, someone s/ be there trying to make a citizen's arrest. Every time. They s/ be made to feel as unwelcome as they are. Like the saying goes, maybe if the people lead, the leaders will follow.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
The rotten fish idea sounds good.
135135135135135 3 years ago 2
in the uk we have a rather effective way of showing discent... we wait until our political 'leaders" come to our constutancy and pelt the sods with rotton fish...
true we get arrested but it's worth it... not many of the sods last long after that!
grahamkeithtodd 3 years ago
It's like Monarchy England and Free America has switched rolls. The United Kingdoms, and the Republican Monarchy America.
Tyler1337Admin 3 years ago
more like the old soviet union and the usa has switched roles..
Bush and cheeny and rove have crapped all over the us conststion and you let them!
Bush has taken powers that he does not have and crapped all over you and back in the UK the queen is just a figure head(and has been for some time)
grahamkeithtodd 3 years ago
I'm making a citizen's arrest on the next person I see who voted for the patriot act.
LastOptionPils 3 years ago
citizens arrest march or rally.
tbgx1 3 years ago
I cannot wait to citizen arrest him when he comes to Orange County.
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago
Cenk for President 2024!!
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago
We all wish dude. We all wish. Unfortunately, he was born in Turkey and not in United States. It would've been SUPER SWEET if he was born in the U.S. and became president.
nytehawx 3 years ago
We'll still citizen arrest him and deport him back to Tukey! haha
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago
Racist PUNK!
nytehawx 3 years ago
How is that racist being deported back? It's the law. lol
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago
You dumbass, he's a legal citizen like you. He is a hell of a better American than you will ever be because he has one thing that you don't have... INTELLIGENCE.
nytehawx 3 years ago
It's all a joke, don't be so gullible.haha We all know we can't deport your lover back so stop crying.
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago
Whatever
nytehawx 3 years ago
Cenk would have to go through a bunch of processes, like McCain.
Tyler1337Admin 3 years ago
nah, you are like the rest of us westerners, filled with crap food and tv shows.
TheHairyHeart 3 years ago
Unfortunately it'll never stand :(
theheat151 3 years ago
What a great idea! If I ever see this motherfucker Rove, I swear to god I'm putt'n him under arrest.
ogjimkenobi 3 years ago 3
Forget putting him under citizen's arrest...I'm gonna punch him square in the teeth.
phoenixatom 3 years ago 2
I've got a gun. Wanna slam the butt into his head? That hurts like a devil. THEN we can arrest him :]
Tyler1337Admin 3 years ago
you guys should keep us posted on when Rice goes to New Zealand.
mcharles013 3 years ago
...just call it as it is. McCain should stick with the truth and hammer Obama on his past record, not depend upon lies and pass them off as the truth. By the way, one of the images they used in that ad was Obama playing basketball with the troops. He also visited wounded troops where there was not cameras present. Which were the intention of this trip until the department of defense informed Obama that they could not bring a retired service man. That would make it a political trip. Keep it real.
nugen966 3 years ago 2
whether you are a McCain supporter or not, you have to call bullshit on McCain last tv ad attacking Obama in not visiting the troops and that McCain is always there for the troops. The republicans are really depending upon Americas laziness to pass this ad. According to congressional records, McCain has either voted against or not voted for bills that would support the troops, including the last one Bush gave him partial credit to. Webb's bill. I'm not trying to change your mind...
nugen966 3 years ago 4
The man has clearly violated thousands of laws, committed hundreds of felonies... He is guilty of WAR CRIMES and TREASON!!!!
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET THIS MAN ARRESTED??????? Does he have to be frying up babies on the White House grill???
How about sanctioning the deaths of millions so his friends can get rich?? Ops Rove has been there done that...
IS THERE ANYONE WITH THE BALLS TO ARREST THIS BASTARD???
There is no justice in America....
1NWOMD 3 years ago 9
Yet.
TheGiantRobot 3 years ago
OMG I so AGREE, WE REALLY NEED TO START TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY BEFOR IT GETS TO LATE.
YOU HAVE A GREAT SHOW THANKS AND TAKE CARE.
~MARTY
marty1160 3 years ago
=0 I want to perform a citizen's arrest!
Indecisive0As0Always 3 years ago
WOOT! lets do this
Brian626 3 years ago 2
How long? Let's do it.
osiris33 3 years ago
WHOOPS
hannahbabyyo67 3 years ago
I TOTALLY agree
hannahbabyyo67 3 years ago 3
great show. i agree =D
hannahbabyyo67 3 years ago
great show, i agree =D
hannahbabyyo67 3 years ago
FIRST>
dna1987 3 years ago
great show, i agree =)
hannahbabyyo67 3 years ago
The police state is well and truly upon us.
ngarey 3 years ago
first
firebird595 3 years ago