Ancient British Lesson

[xMusicIsMyGasolinex]

I want to learn this, my people come from somerset.

[steffanapsion]

fascinating but where did you get this from?

[redcoatsrule]

@retelas2 you greeks claiming such crap are full of yourselves arent you, greek isn't the mother of all languages and English isn't a greek a dialect it's of germanic roots.

[DontShakeItUp]

Almost sounds a bit like Spanish at some parts.

[5thcenturyad]

Could you tell me "yes" and "no" in Ancient British? As in answering a question e.g. "Do you have a spare room at the inn?" "Yes"

Thanks and best wishes.

[ManelinhoAraujinho]

@5thcenturyad In Brittonic languages you usually have to answer affirmatively, instead of just saying "yes". For example:

Q: "Did Joe hit the man?"

A: "Yes he did." or "He did."

The word for 'yes' or 'indeed" is 'to' or 'tod' from proto-Celtic *tod.

To answer negatively you can say just 'no' or say the full answer like before.

Q: "(same)"

A: "No." or "No, he didn't."

The word for 'no is 'ne'.

[6079smythw]

hello in irish = "god be with you" Dia duit or "how are you"=conas tá tú

slán= good bye.. "health be with you"=Slán leat

Very interesting video...thanks for posting it

[hanterkant]

May I recommend you to learn a bit of Breton? As you probably know, Br-i-tons moved from Britain to Brittany where they became Br-e-tons. Their language, leaving its natural environment, is most likely to have some old and crystalized form of ancient "British". You sure will find some interesting stuff there. Like the almost absence of "to have", often given by "to be" + passive voice.

Kalon deoc'h !

[gwalarn75]

@hanterkant

I agree with you. A the origin, welsh, cornish and Breton are probably the same language (before Breton people crossed the Channel to invade Armoric land which became Brittany), near the gaulish language from the brittonic group but different of the Gaelic group (Irish, Manx and Scottish).

[TheXand19]

Pretty cool stuff mate, keep at it.

[mikr671]

sounds authentic it sounds like celtic with latin added.

i was reading a book or on line and it said the bretons came from up north down to south east england think there were battles with other peoples along the way.

[MultiCren]

fart gas this sounds like greek

[piggiletto]

Extremely interesting. thank you.

Just for info, it's perfectly acceptable and totally normal to use "have" as a verb in French. "J'ai un ordinateur" translates as "I have a computer"

"L'ordinateur est à moi" translates as "It's my computer" or "The computer is mine"

[22betterdays]

ancient british is basicly ancient irish gaelic right or is it really different ive been wanting to learn it but i can only find it on rossetastone

[22betterdays]

ancient british is basicly ancient gaelic right or is there really a difference ive been wanting to learn ancient gaelic but can only find it on rosettadtone

[wrolph]

One correction - 'to be' and 'to have' don't exist in some languages - or more accurately, don't explicitly exist.

In Nahuatl, there is the word 'cah' which kind of means 'to exist', but it much more conservatively used than in English.  There is an affix 'to have' '-yo', but not used in an auxiliary fashion like English. And 'pixa' really means 'to guard'.

Similarly, Chinese has 'sher' (my phonetic spelling), but is not used in as many contexts as English 'to be'.

[MT2366]

lool wtf i though you was a girl.. now im out .. :X

[MaBu888]

@retelas2 In 'Proto-IndoEuropean' it was: Person Singular Plural 1st *hés-mi *hs-més 2nd *hés-si/*hesi *hs-thé 3rd *hés-ti *hs-énti As you may have told, classic Greek eisi is an analogy of ei. In Proto-Italic NOS SVMVS was most likely nos esomos. Persian: هستمhastam هستى hasti هست hast هستيم hastim هستيد hastid هستند hastand Preserved Proto-Indo-European spirant.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

It is more likely that a w would become silent, followed by the adoption of SPIRITVS ASPER, as was common in Greek, which later declined, rendering how, for example, hesperos would be pronounced in modern Greek.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

This alone isn't proof. You have the scientific literacy of an Ancient Greek, though.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

The Oscan (an Italic language) word for Italy was VITELIV, final V with diacritic mark, pronounced as [witelio:]. As a semi-irrelevant note, only a short e sound could have become a short a sound.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

No. Greek shares a common origin with the other languages that share similar features with it. An h wouldn't become a w out of no process like between the words VESPROS, VESPERA, hesperos. You are re-inventing a wheel with quasi-scientific principles. The word from which the above came, was most likely wesperos. The same process applies with ILION/WILION, Italia/WITELIU (one of the deceased Italic words got loaned by a Greek dialects who dropped the w sound).

[cmchapman75]

Hey.... do you know any more.. Or have you come up with any more? I would LOVE to learn. I love languages of all kinds. I am currently working on studying 6 right now. But I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to learn more of what you have managed to come up. This would be pre-latin? Right? Let me know as soon as you can. I hope you are still around!

[TheChuchulainn]

@retelas2 You're insane. Don't talk to me, I don't want to catch your insane cooties.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

Proto-Celtic is 9000 years old. Greek competes. During the Ice Age they used to be the same language. To call that Greek is like calling dinosaurs birds. Very little difference, but significant.

[MaBu888]

@retelas2

Those language come from a common ancestor spoken during the ice age.

[papspyros]

@retelas2 έλληνες ως έθνος γιατί το ελληνικό κράτος το αποσυνδέσαμε με την ψήφο μας, είναι πλέον πολυπολιτισμικό και όποιος γουστάρει να πηδήξει το φράχτη και να μπει παίρνει υπηκοότητα με συνοπτικές διαδικασίες, άμα καταδεχτεί δηλαδή χαχαχα εδώ που φτάσαμε

[papspyros]

@retelas2 το θέμα φίλε μου είναι ότι τα μισά παιδιά απ' όσα διδάσκεις πληροφορική ξέρουν για το μεγαλείο της ελληνικής γλώσσας και ότι σχεδιάζουν να την χρησιμοποιήσουν στην πληροφορική κλπ κλπ, αλλά δεν μπορούν στοιχειωδώς να την μιλήσουν ! δε σε προβληματίζει αυτό;

[papspyros]

@retelas2 τι αρχαιοελληνικό μεγαλείο επιχειρημάτων !!! πράγματι πρέπει να είσαι απόγονος σε απευθείας γραμμή του Αριστοφάνους !!! ρε δε ντρεπόμαστε λίγο λέω εγώ

[papspyros]

@retelas2 κο κο κο κο κο κοτούλα κρύψου κρύψου έτσι στην τρυπούλα σου και πάρε και κάνα βιβλίο παραδοξολογίας για το μεγαλείο της Ελλάδας να ονειρευτείς, μόνο μην πάρεις κάνα αυθεντικό αρχαίο συγγραφέα μαζί σου γιατί θα στεναχωρηθείς για αυτά που γράφουν για το είδος σου κο κο κο κο κο

[papspyros]

@retelas2 δεν έχεις ανάγκη; να υποθέσω τότε ότι προσυπέγραψες το αίτημα για δημοψήφισμα ενάντια στην αλλαγή της νομοθεσίας που στοχεύει να δίνει πολιτικά δικαιώματα έλληνα στον οποιονδήποτε με συνοπτικές διαδικασίες; προσυπέγραψες ή ιδιώτευσες;

[papspyros]

@retelas2 ψήφισε να σε βάλουν και στο δημόσιο και μετά άραξε και διάβαζε τα συγγράματα των παραδοξολόγων για το προαιώνιο μεγαλείο των ελλήνων ά ρε ζώα, όποιος μιλάει για την ελληνική και δεν μπορεί να διαβάσει ούτε Δημοσθένη στο πρωτότυπο πρέπει να του κόβουνε τη γλώσσα

[papspyros]

@retelas2 παραθέτεις τους τύπους της αττικής διαλέκτου για ν' αποδείξεις ότι η ελληνική είναι μητέρα γλώσσα της κορνουάλης, ράβδος εν γωνία άρα βρέχει, τράβα τώρα να σου πλύνει τα τζάμια του γερμανικού σου (αγορασμένου με δανεικα από τους φράγκους) αυτοκίνητου κάνας πακιστανός και μόκο (αντιδάνειο εκ της πολυνησιακής διαλέκτου που σημαίνει τον μπούλο)

[papspyros]

@retelas2 pali arxises ta narkwtika? are you into drugs again? lawl (ancient greek laughter)

[CERNWNOS]

please fold your text version into this one, it is better to hear and see

you speak the ancient british.

[Aztecalt1997]

is there a lot of Latin in ancient british?

[Italyown]

@Aztecalt1997

well there are Latin and Greek words in every language spoken in the old Europe... :)

[Aztecalt1997]

oh ok :]

[Gormach]

@Aztecalt1997

I am no expert but only someone with a slight interesst of languages, but according to what I have read and learned, among the branches of indo-european: Celtic, Italic, German, Greek, Slavic, Iranian, Indian, etc there is a closer bond between the celtic and italic. So similaritys should be expected. But I just briefly watched this one so I'm not gonna make a judgment about how correct this reconstruction is :)

[TheBirdMamma]

dude you seem pretty good at this. it's pretty cool

[LIVERLADD]

Favourited and thumbs up.

I found this very good thanks

[flameboy44]

Except now England is inhabited by the sons of the germans, saxons and such. You'd have to kick them back to germany, and bring back the old inhabitants of Britain (Who have emigrated in Brittany, Cornwall, devon, Wales etc...)

[tesla121]

I am an american-born Welshman and really appreciate you sharing this with us. I eagerly await your future video lessons.

[morlader]

What are your sources for this - just interested,

[mushies987]

ehhh... slan is irish for goodbye and its pronounced slawn, not slaan, the a is elongated cos it has a fada.

[Lofeman]

oops, the "introductory essay" I referred is at the beginning of the new Cornish Dictionary,by Dr Ken George, which I've just bought ...essential reading for all language revivalists

[Lofeman]

Lofeman, I'm so impressed by this work. , I'm just reading the introductary essay, which is a fascinating account of the history of those worked on Language Revival. I give you my huge respect, I'm a fluent Irish and Northumbrian speaker, and doing a degree in Welsh. I am involved in a project collecting all known Northumbrian cognates, and creating neologisms . Please keep me up to date with your work, and if I can offer you my supportat all, please let me know

brendan riley

[Lofeman]

ok, is this ahoax, I'm a native Irish speaker, doing a degree in Welsh, and as far as I know, there is no trace of ancient British, so have you made this up for a joke, you seemed to know what you're talking about...if this is real, where can I learn? Brendan

[LordAsriel1]

Its not a hoax, its my reconstructed form of british based on welsh, proto-celtic and gaulish. Not 100% accurate, but an ancient briton would probably understand most of it. I'm doing a website where you can learn some of it, and i'll put it on here when its done.

[3tangle3]

@LordAsriel1 Good attempting.......but whats your defintion of ancient british? the picts/iberian ppls or beaker ppl.......hard subject...good luck :P

[5thcenturyad]

@LordAsriel1 Are there any professional linguists reconstructing ancient British? Or did you reconstruct this yourself? If so, you have a gift for languages. Anyway, I've been working on a novel for the last 3 or 4 months about a Catuvellauni farming family who get involved in the rebellion of 409 that deposed the government left by Constantine 3rd. I'd like to use 1 or 2 of your phrases in the book. I hope that's OK with you.

[LordAsriel1]

@5thcenturyad

This is pretty much all done myself, there are scattered fragments of professional versions but nothing substantial, just a few words really.

And sure you can use them, what do you want them to say? I have to admit the version I'm speaking here isn't as accurate as what I've come up with now that I've gained a better knowledge of linguistics

[5thcenturyad]

@LordAsriel1 Im writing the book in English as obvously no one would understand it in ancient British but a few phrases are in Latin and ancient British to give it a hint of how they spoke at the time. Could you give me a more accurate "good day" "good night" "Lugus be with you" and "Gods bless you". Also their name for the Pagan winter solstice celebration. Thanks for help.

[LordAsriel1]

@5thcenturyad

Good day : diyos dagos (also spelt diios dagos or dijos dagos, up to you how you spell it)

Good night : nox dagá

Lugus be with you : Lugus kanta te (if its said to one person) Lugus kanta swos (to more than one person)

Gods bless you : retá deiwón kanta te (to one person) retá deiwón kanta swos (to more than one person)

I'm not sure about the name of the winter solstice, but it may have been something like " Mediogayamos " "Midwinter ".

[5thcenturyad]

@LordAsriel1 Excellent and thanks again. I will certainly use these in the book. I applaud what you are doing. Best Wishes and reta deiwon kanta te.

[jmikejapan]

@LordAsriel1 I like to think of myself as a linguist as a hobby. I have a gift with languages and just love to learn as much as I can.

Where did you get your resources ? I have noticed that some of the words and sentence structure sounds a lot like latin. Why is that?

Thanks and I will be sure to stay posted.

[wrolph]

Good on you. Cool stuff.

[martpast1]

@LordAsriel1 i see it like SOMETHING between Latin and Gothic languages. a little bit of Spanish like. i dont know these languages.

[3tangle3]

@Lofeman wtf??? the word aber is from ancient brythonic(pictish for sure) at the latest if not older........first settlers after the end of last ice age probably are not british or brythonic

[merchyllyn]

@Lofeman According to the latest experts a Welshman in ancient celtic Britain would be able to follow a conversation.

[SoulMusic121]

@Lofeman Look up "British Language" on Wikipedia. It's related to Welsh and Breton through a shared proto-Celtic root, evidently. Sounds fair enough; reconstructing ancient languages like Gothic according to various philological rules is how Tolkien got his start creating languages, and he did okay for himself. Good work, son, and keep at it.

[LLanidloesywddar]

Hey I congradulate you on this video, very well done!!!

[adamjones416]

Ble mae dy tystiolaeth a'r ffynonellau lle rwyt wedi dod o hyd i'r wybodaeth yma ynglŷn a'r iaith ?

[bambersish]

where did you learn this? this is so impressive. we need to be proud of our roots

[Stettina81]

This is awesome!!

[SolAurum]

The "to be" verbs definitely share similarities with German: er ist = esti; sie sind = senti.

You win sir.

[MaBu888]

@SolAurum

In Latin sunt. Old Latin sonti/senti/sinti.