It is clear to see that both master and student have put in a lot of hard word and effort. A traditional wing chun student does not get to have private lessons in Biu Jee unless he has worked v hard on his previous forms and earned the privilege. I think I've seen footage of Sifu Rahsun doing this form too. His technique is very powerful! Respects.
these men forget the trueness... and i am not speaking in terms if expert. i am a true walker within the light of fist...and chinese have it accurate enough. those who wish to understand the true please subscribe...
@thepopol777 That is the Yip Man way as taught to my Sifu. But there are other lineages of WC that have nothing to do with Yip Man.Yip Man wasn't the Grandmaster of ALL Wing Chun.
@thepopol777 Did you there there is a WC with no SLT, CK, or Biu Jee? It's not the Yip Man way but is was created by his teacher's teacher. Look up Gu Lo Wing Chun.
@sifupr I have recently found a teacher who teaches this style of Wing Chun. Pin Sun Wing chun from Kulo Village? Have you seen much if it? Is it harder to learn ? Effective?
This is pretty good. Definitely one of the better forms on Youtube. I think it's fascinating how different schools approach the forms and techniques in different ways. I like the dynamics and intensity in this form. One question though, does your form include yin bon, or is it three elbow-strikes in the first section?
@merg741 That's not me it's my student during a private lesson. We do TWC which is"central line" WC, If you look at my central line videos on this channel you'll see what I'm talking about.
pretty good. Just gonna have a shot at some constructive criticism here. I think your elbows were a bit too far away from your centre while executing some of the moves.
@darkstar123455 That's one of my students in Detroit getting a private lessons. There are a few mistakes that I fixed during the lesson. But his elbows weren't one of them. We use both central and center lines in our WC. Sometimes the elbow won't be in the center.
@nykteridas You're welcome. Fu Jow Pai was my first Kung Du system. I trained on Canal St. when Wai Hong was teaching. That was before Tak, Sidney, and Paul Vizzio were Sifus. I even fought in the Fu Jow Pai full contact events in Chinatown. The actress Morgan Fairchild was my classmate back then.
No disrespect but the Caucasian young man that they had on the site before, did it much better then your student. Again that was not said out of any disrespect. But the other young man foot work was much more rooted with cleaner lines. Your student still looks like he would be a good fighter. I used to do Cheung style of wing chun (moved on to Moy Yat) so respect to all of his students.
It's not as different as people think compared to the main Yip Man version. The arrangement is different and the footwork is different, but the heart of the techniques is the same. My sifu always says to me that all Wing Chun lineages are valid IF they adhere to the principles of centreline, straight line, economy of motion, and a few other key principles. And also, it must be proven in combat. I don't know much about William Cheung, but I assume it has been proven in real fights?
@Thepingpongplaya Hi, I'm the Sifu of the guy in the clip. His footwork is good. You're probably don't know that there are different versions of Wing Chun. What would you say about a version of WC that had no forms at all? There is one. ;-)
@vahner7vakruz you are correct. There are many different lineages of Wing Chun. There are also many non-Yip Man versions of Wing Chun. There is even one version that has no forms. It's called Gu Lo Wing Chun and was created by Leung Jan who was Yip Man's Sigung.
@vahner7vakruz Yes, since 1970. I've studied with 4 direct students of Yip (Ip) Man and with two non-Yip Man versions of Wing Chun. Please visit my website: wingchunkwoon
I spoke to my teacher and showed him the video and he said it was uncoordinated and the student was very out of centre at times, and biu jee should not be done that way, he said it was an almost untraditional way of doing biu jee that would not bring any true benefit from it because the student isnt taking time to learn the centre and he is right!
Just because your Sifu says so doesn't make it so. 1st of all this is a student learning a form so it won't be perfect. Also, I'd like to know who your sifu is and if he's ever fought or competed using his WC. I have.
I've been doing WC since 1970 and have NEVER talked bad about other styles. You show bad Mo Duk/WuDe. Ask your sifu what that is of he speaks Chinese. Too many WC people who can't fight talk trash.
@sifupr Wing Chun is a system not a style, even your Sifu William Cheung acknowledges this. I don't think the guy and his Sifu was bad mouthing TWC Biu Jee, people have a different way of doing things and people criticize based on their way.
@shuyin131Thx for your comment. I speak Cantonese. WC is a Kuen and not a Pai. Pai is "system" in Cantonese. Like Fu Jow Pai or Ying Jow Pai. A system is closed to innovation whereas a Kuen 'fist" is not
@uncleedoo I offer sincere advice. Unless your Sifu is Yip Man himself, no one is qualified to criticize so quickly and out of context. No matter who your Sifu is, you should find out "your" truth for yourself. I hope Sifu Redmond will forgive me chiming in, but just because your Sifu says it's so doesn't make it so. Be sincere about the art and learn. If it doesn't work for you, why say anything? Bashing others doesn't make your kung fu any better.
A common question asked by someone new to WC. There are MANY different versions of WC. No one can claim to be familiar with them all. Just in case you didn't know. There are non-Yip Man lineages of WC.
That's my student doing the form during a private lesson.
He was trying to do his best. I just hope that your comment doesn't discourage him. But thanks anyway. Maybe you can upload a clip showing how the form should be done.
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't ur stance abit too wide? I dunno, but maybe it is a different version? because my sifu always emphasises on a smaller stance for faster movement and smaller target, and a wide stance will invite an attack to the groin area. but that's just my opinion.Pls don't take any offense.
I completely understand your point. I was taught the same way as you until I changed WC styles. I don't advocate 1 WC being better than another. I taught my student in the clip to find a happy medium between a stable stance and one where he can be fast. Also, he'd never stand square with the groin exposed like that in a real fight. It's simply a form to teach principles.
I just watched a Wong Shun Leung WSL clip. WSL was a fighter and his stance is wide as well. There were only a few WC fighters in HK. Most of the "well known" WC personalities never fought. Personally, I wouldn't want to learn swimming from someone who's never been in the water. But that's just me.
Would you grow up. Just because something is different doesn't mean it sucks. There are many different versions of WC. Some don't even have forms. Do they suck?
Not sure if MTFRANKLINSAC is refering to my comment or not but I thought I should add 2 my previous post. I wasn't trying to imply somebody was right or wrong, I just found this form 2 b extremly different 2 what I hav seen b4. if it works for you guys than good, I was only curious if your stuff was guided by the same concepts as others. (structure, relaxation etc) essentially I wanted some details rather than the 'everybody is different/ it works for us' statements you tend to get from ppl.
NP, WC is principle based and since there were so many people practicing WC in Fatsan there will be many different interpretations. Problem is the most people only think of Yip Man who NEVER said he was the Grandmaster of ALL WC. He wouldn't have said that knowing that he had seniors and his seniors had seniors.
YM gor famouse because he made it to Hong Kong. What about the others that remained in China?
What I was told the modified system lacks footwork that is taught in our system. Story goes that Yip Man only taught modified and hid the true system as he had been told by his last teacher. William Cheung was latter taught this. Regardless of the truth I distrust Yip Man's students and have looked into things myself. From my knowledge of martial arts Cheung's system is the only one that looks right to me started looking into Hung Fa Yi but have not been able to find videos of their forms.
@wolf3001 i see our looking for hung fa yi well look no more my sifu benny meng is come out with a new web site and will be showing hung fa yi and black flag wing chun
I have been training for around 9 years my Sifu is Master Jerry Bolding. This is the exact Biu Jee form I have been practicing for several years now. My only issues is that it would do good to slow it down and perfect the techniques. Other then that the only differences I see in anything are more then likely a difference in teaching. I was taught to do the double palm strikes in 2 ways either at the same time or the top hand striking just before the lower.
I find it very difficult to comment on this video without seeming disrespectful, I certainly don't wish to offend, but this is not the Biu Jee I am used to seeing at all. Watching this video has renewed my confidence in what little Ive learned of wing chun, and Im glad I didn't learn it here!!!
There are many different lineages of WC and they look different. There are even many that don't come from Yip Man. Just because something doesn't look like what you're used to seeing doesn't make it invalid. We fight with our WC and have been winning. Why should we change?
No problem. I was a Sifu of the "mainstream" YMWCK and I thought this looked weird until I started learning the fighting apps. So I understand where you're coming from.
Haha, i love how people try to fault your student and argue with you! Being at a rank of Master i would dare not argue with you as you are the Master.
I only have a years training in Wing Chun but i looks like you student done very well and im sure my Sigung would agree, who was also trained by William Cheung!
This seems one of the more extreme WC videos I have seen... I'm curous, when you say you have studied other lineages did you find you shared common core concepts? I mean was it just a matter of 'Catsup or Ketchup' little variations or where differences more dramatic? I know the biu jee form is fairly different to the prehaps more common seen 1st & 2nd forms but this seems like alot of it is too indistinct from wildly swiping, stepping and slapping, I dont see much of the "classic" WC concepts.
The force should be generated by rotation of the whole body, which isn't the case here. Besides, there is no need to move all over the place. Stay where you are. If you really want to see a nice Biu Jee Form, check here : cwG8xLTKkUs
Your comment is base on the WC you learned. There are many different versions/lineage of WC. I've studied different lineages of WC including 4 direct students of Yip Man over the last 39 years. My student in this video is doing exactly what he should be doing. We compete full contact and win. Show me a clip of your guys competing.
Still. This is far from some of the known principles of Wing Chun, regardless of lineage : economy of energy and movement. As you may know (since you have trained under Ip Man's lineage, according to your posts), Ip man's sons Ip Ching and Ip Chun themselves don't do the form like your student but like I mentioned : using rotation of the whole body to generate the force. The form shown by your student reminds me this of William Cheung... who's supposed to have been trained under Ip Man lineage
Everthing in that form has a practical application. It's just different what most people are used to seeing. I do what works and not what people think I should do. Out of respect I won't comment on the way others do the form.
dude empty the cup. first of all its usually (not always) used when ur centre line is compromised in order to gain some ground so that u can get back in to bi jong and evne ip mans students have different ways of doing thing martial art is self expersion and different ppl will in with different results as do artist and their work.
Looks like a great workout. I've learned the modern Yip Man Siu Nim Tao and Chum Kiu so far but have yet to learn the traditional forms. I think it's important to learn both but that's just me :p
i must say .. i tried do this, and it did feel different..it really felt like after weaving under the arms..the biu jee, and second biu jee was like locking into my opponent like a clinch.. and I was sweating, and panting.. like i really had to breathe my hits, and doing it fast perfectly is very tough..not your ordinary hip turns, even the kicks run smooth.. bow*
Jonas: just straight up kickin' it! Speak that truth, my kung fu brother and 1st instructor in our beloved style. SIFU: ...I still practice Siu Lim Tao, Chum Kiu, and Biu Ji daily! Could you also Ryan Kennedy's demo? That's a badass vid!
haha is it just wing chun or does every shared kung fu vid get this same "I know better than you" and "thats not blahblahblah"?
I for one enjoyed your presentation of this set.. as I enjoy the thousands of other versions I have seen, I have yet to encounter ANY human shape who didnt have things for me to learn from them. Thanks for sharing
Too fast according to who? This form develops cardio which is important for fighters. And the form is not mixed. There are many different lineages of WC and they probably won't look like the WC you are familiar with.
I'm sorry if i insaulted you sifu. its just its to fast for me to see all the move so i told thats too fast (for me). And thank you for explaining everything. i thought that there is some, different lineaeges of WC, but know thanks to you I can be sure .Thank you again.
No problem. I've studied from 4 direct students of Yip Man and they all said that Biu Jee was to be done fast to get cardio since the other forms don't develop cardio.
very cool. you should make videos of the other kuen in wing chun. i'm from hung gar and i like to look for the similarities in the two related, but very different styles.
From my humble point of view it seems like you are breaking most WC/VT/WT concetps... please correct me if I am wrong, but I found the form not really refined, I think you shoulders are not supposed to be moving that much , your entire body structure trembles, is that on purpose?
very good base and fat keng
peterwing 1 month ago
@peterwing Cool that someone saw the ging lek in the form. You must have a good Sifu.
sifupr 1 month ago
It is clear to see that both master and student have put in a lot of hard word and effort. A traditional wing chun student does not get to have private lessons in Biu Jee unless he has worked v hard on his previous forms and earned the privilege. I think I've seen footage of Sifu Rahsun doing this form too. His technique is very powerful! Respects.
jasma98 1 month ago
@jasma98 Sifu Rahsun has been my student since he was 9 years old. I'm very proud of him.
sifupr 1 month ago
@sifupr He is a credit to you, your sifu and your lineage. Thanks for all you share on youtube. Regards from London Uk
jasma98 1 month ago
these men forget the trueness... and i am not speaking in terms if expert. i am a true walker within the light of fist...and chinese have it accurate enough. those who wish to understand the true please subscribe...
PsudoPoodle1324 2 months ago
what ever happen to the secrecy in wing chun?
TheLAdao 3 months ago
@TheLAdao That's my student. I teach my students real gung fu with nothing to hide. The secret is, there is no secret.
sifupr 3 months ago
@sifupr What lineage is it?
TheLAdao 3 months ago
@TheLAdao William Cheung
sifupr 3 months ago
Hey man... Sifu says RELAX!!!!!
thepopol777 4 months ago
@thepopol777 I'm his Sifu and he's doing Biu Jee the way it should be done. It's our cardio form.
sifupr 4 months ago
@sifupr I think that the "way it should be done" is the Ip Man way.
thepopol777 3 months ago
@thepopol777 That is the Yip Man way as taught to my Sifu. But there are other lineages of WC that have nothing to do with Yip Man.Yip Man wasn't the Grandmaster of ALL Wing Chun.
sifupr 3 months ago
@thepopol777 Did you there there is a WC with no SLT, CK, or Biu Jee? It's not the Yip Man way but is was created by his teacher's teacher. Look up Gu Lo Wing Chun.
sifupr 3 months ago
@sifupr I have recently found a teacher who teaches this style of Wing Chun. Pin Sun Wing chun from Kulo Village? Have you seen much if it? Is it harder to learn ? Effective?
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@beunbad I sent you a message.
sifupr 2 months ago
This is so different from my Sifu's lineage (WSL lineage).
What lineage is this? Just curious. Not trying to be offensive.
Shaolinkungfucat 6 months ago
@Shaolinkungfucat Yes, it is different from Sibak WSL WC. This is TWC from my Sifu William Cheung.
sifupr 6 months ago
This is pretty good. Definitely one of the better forms on Youtube. I think it's fascinating how different schools approach the forms and techniques in different ways. I like the dynamics and intensity in this form. One question though, does your form include yin bon, or is it three elbow-strikes in the first section?
MJBarry 8 months ago
nise but if you can do the form slowly is better
merg741 8 months ago
@merg741 That's not me it's my student during a private lesson. We do TWC which is"central line" WC, If you look at my central line videos on this channel you'll see what I'm talking about.
sifupr 8 months ago
pretty good. Just gonna have a shot at some constructive criticism here. I think your elbows were a bit too far away from your centre while executing some of the moves.
darkstar123455 9 months ago
@darkstar123455 That's one of my students in Detroit getting a private lessons. There are a few mistakes that I fixed during the lesson. But his elbows weren't one of them. We use both central and center lines in our WC. Sometimes the elbow won't be in the center.
sifupr 9 months ago
how many forms are there at Wing Chun?
nykteridas 11 months ago
@nykteridas "usually" there are 3 empty hand forms, the wooden dummy form, and two weapons form.
sifupr 11 months ago
@sifupr thank you.this year i started fu jow pai and id like to learn about other systems
nykteridas 11 months ago
@nykteridas You're welcome. Fu Jow Pai was my first Kung Du system. I trained on Canal St. when Wai Hong was teaching. That was before Tak, Sidney, and Paul Vizzio were Sifus. I even fought in the Fu Jow Pai full contact events in Chinatown. The actress Morgan Fairchild was my classmate back then.
sifupr 11 months ago
@nykteridas Out main school is in S. Jersey but I teach Thur 6-8pm and Sat 3:30-5:30pm in Manhattan.
64 E. 4th St., 4th Floor
sifupr 11 months ago
@sifupr i meant i want to get informed...and i live somewehere not very near to manhattan.in athens lol
nykteridas 11 months ago
@nykteridas Ti Kanis, sorry. I thought you were in the States....lol
sifupr 11 months ago
No disrespect but the Caucasian young man that they had on the site before, did it much better then your student. Again that was not said out of any disrespect. But the other young man foot work was much more rooted with cleaner lines. Your student still looks like he would be a good fighter. I used to do Cheung style of wing chun (moved on to Moy Yat) so respect to all of his students.
taocircle 11 months ago
@taocircle They are both my students. The other guy is a Sifu so there will be a difference.
sifupr 11 months ago
@taocircle You can see my student, Sifu Ryan Kennedy from Toronto on my website (wingchunkwoon)
sifupr 11 months ago
never seen that version before, i like the kicks.
MikeyItes 1 year ago
wow. nice and fast.
yournameismy 1 year ago
Very interesting, thanks sifupr :)
TheFlowMeister 1 year ago
It's not as different as people think compared to the main Yip Man version. The arrangement is different and the footwork is different, but the heart of the techniques is the same. My sifu always says to me that all Wing Chun lineages are valid IF they adhere to the principles of centreline, straight line, economy of motion, and a few other key principles. And also, it must be proven in combat. I don't know much about William Cheung, but I assume it has been proven in real fights?
hulkout666 1 year ago
which lineage is this? o_o
HomasterX 1 year ago
@HomasterX That's my student Jonas doing the form. I learned it from my Sifu Cheung Cheuk Hing (William Cheung)
sifupr 1 year ago
Bad foot work!
Thepingpongplaya 1 year ago
@Thepingpongplaya Hi, I'm the Sifu of the guy in the clip. His footwork is good. You're probably don't know that there are different versions of Wing Chun. What would you say about a version of WC that had no forms at all? There is one. ;-)
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr - Yeah. I'd like that version of Wing Chun. I've never been big on forms.
gorfjorf2112112 1 year ago
hmmm...very different way of biu jee....
vahner7vakruz 1 year ago
@vahner7vakruz you are correct. There are many different lineages of Wing Chun. There are also many non-Yip Man versions of Wing Chun. There is even one version that has no forms. It's called Gu Lo Wing Chun and was created by Leung Jan who was Yip Man's Sigung.
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr hmm..thanks for the info...are you a wc practitioner?
vahner7vakruz 1 year ago
@vahner7vakruz Yes, since 1970. I've studied with 4 direct students of Yip (Ip) Man and with two non-Yip Man versions of Wing Chun. Please visit my website: wingchunkwoon
sifupr 1 year ago
I spoke to my teacher and showed him the video and he said it was uncoordinated and the student was very out of centre at times, and biu jee should not be done that way, he said it was an almost untraditional way of doing biu jee that would not bring any true benefit from it because the student isnt taking time to learn the centre and he is right!
uncleedoo 1 year ago
Just because your Sifu says so doesn't make it so. 1st of all this is a student learning a form so it won't be perfect. Also, I'd like to know who your sifu is and if he's ever fought or competed using his WC. I have.
Regards,
Sifu Phillip Redmond
wingchunkwoon
sifupr 1 year ago
I've been doing WC since 1970 and have NEVER talked bad about other styles. You show bad Mo Duk/WuDe. Ask your sifu what that is of he speaks Chinese. Too many WC people who can't fight talk trash.
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr Wing Chun is a system not a style, even your Sifu William Cheung acknowledges this. I don't think the guy and his Sifu was bad mouthing TWC Biu Jee, people have a different way of doing things and people criticize based on their way.
shuyin131 1 year ago
@shuyin131Thx for your comment. I speak Cantonese. WC is a Kuen and not a Pai. Pai is "system" in Cantonese. Like Fu Jow Pai or Ying Jow Pai. A system is closed to innovation whereas a Kuen 'fist" is not
sifupr 1 year ago
@uncleedoo I offer sincere advice. Unless your Sifu is Yip Man himself, no one is qualified to criticize so quickly and out of context. No matter who your Sifu is, you should find out "your" truth for yourself. I hope Sifu Redmond will forgive me chiming in, but just because your Sifu says it's so doesn't make it so. Be sincere about the art and learn. If it doesn't work for you, why say anything? Bashing others doesn't make your kung fu any better.
KiCreativeStudios 1 year ago
One question, I see foodwork and kicks that aren't part in The Leung Ting Bui Tze. Why LT hasn't this in his form?
MFG
derlump85 1 year ago
A common question asked by someone new to WC. There are MANY different versions of WC. No one can claim to be familiar with them all. Just in case you didn't know. There are non-Yip Man lineages of WC.
sifupr 1 year ago
this form is very very messy and unco-ordinated
uncleedoo 1 year ago
That's my student doing the form during a private lesson.
He was trying to do his best. I just hope that your comment doesn't discourage him. But thanks anyway. Maybe you can upload a clip showing how the form should be done.
Sifu Phillip Redmond
wingchunkwoon
sifupr 1 year ago
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't ur stance abit too wide? I dunno, but maybe it is a different version? because my sifu always emphasises on a smaller stance for faster movement and smaller target, and a wide stance will invite an attack to the groin area. but that's just my opinion.Pls don't take any offense.
thejuzboi2 2 years ago
I completely understand your point. I was taught the same way as you until I changed WC styles. I don't advocate 1 WC being better than another. I taught my student in the clip to find a happy medium between a stable stance and one where he can be fast. Also, he'd never stand square with the groin exposed like that in a real fight. It's simply a form to teach principles.
Go to my site wingchunkwoon to see more.
sifupr 2 years ago
@sifupr I thought there are two more movements (where you need to lower down your back leg) in between the elbows and Gan Sau?
hongkongboy23 1 year ago
Yes, there is a gwai mah in the form that my student didn't do here.
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr wats gwai mah?
walking1way 1 year ago
Gwai Mah means kneeling horse. Some WC lineages use it and some don't.
sifupr 1 year ago
@sifupr ohh yeahh gwai mah kneel or that and biu jee.. very interesting
walking1way 1 year ago
I just watched a Wong Shun Leung WSL clip. WSL was a fighter and his stance is wide as well. There were only a few WC fighters in HK. Most of the "well known" WC personalities never fought. Personally, I wouldn't want to learn swimming from someone who's never been in the water. But that's just me.
sifupr 1 year ago
This really sucks check out wong shun leung biu jee. much beterrrrr
Nastykilla 2 years ago
Would you grow up. Just because something is different doesn't mean it sucks. There are many different versions of WC. Some don't even have forms. Do they suck?
sifupr 2 years ago
Not sure if MTFRANKLINSAC is refering to my comment or not but I thought I should add 2 my previous post. I wasn't trying to imply somebody was right or wrong, I just found this form 2 b extremly different 2 what I hav seen b4. if it works for you guys than good, I was only curious if your stuff was guided by the same concepts as others. (structure, relaxation etc) essentially I wanted some details rather than the 'everybody is different/ it works for us' statements you tend to get from ppl.
Donkyfishy 2 years ago
NP, WC is principle based and since there were so many people practicing WC in Fatsan there will be many different interpretations. Problem is the most people only think of Yip Man who NEVER said he was the Grandmaster of ALL WC. He wouldn't have said that knowing that he had seniors and his seniors had seniors.
YM gor famouse because he made it to Hong Kong. What about the others that remained in China?
sifupr 2 years ago
What I was told the modified system lacks footwork that is taught in our system. Story goes that Yip Man only taught modified and hid the true system as he had been told by his last teacher. William Cheung was latter taught this. Regardless of the truth I distrust Yip Man's students and have looked into things myself. From my knowledge of martial arts Cheung's system is the only one that looks right to me started looking into Hung Fa Yi but have not been able to find videos of their forms.
wolf3001 2 years ago
I don't use the term modified. It's very divisive. WC is one family with different approaches to the same goal
sifupr 2 years ago
@wolf3001 i see our looking for hung fa yi well look no more my sifu benny meng is come out with a new web site and will be showing hung fa yi and black flag wing chun
hungfayi1 2 years ago
I have been training for around 9 years my Sifu is Master Jerry Bolding. This is the exact Biu Jee form I have been practicing for several years now. My only issues is that it would do good to slow it down and perfect the techniques. Other then that the only differences I see in anything are more then likely a difference in teaching. I was taught to do the double palm strikes in 2 ways either at the same time or the top hand striking just before the lower.
wolf3001 2 years ago
This form is supposed to be done at real time fighting speed to develop cardio. Of course it can be done slow as well.
sifupr 2 years ago
I find it very difficult to comment on this video without seeming disrespectful, I certainly don't wish to offend, but this is not the Biu Jee I am used to seeing at all. Watching this video has renewed my confidence in what little Ive learned of wing chun, and Im glad I didn't learn it here!!!
samuski36 2 years ago
There are many different lineages of WC and they look different. There are even many that don't come from Yip Man. Just because something doesn't look like what you're used to seeing doesn't make it invalid. We fight with our WC and have been winning. Why should we change?
sifupr 2 years ago
No problem. I was a Sifu of the "mainstream" YMWCK and I thought this looked weird until I started learning the fighting apps. So I understand where you're coming from.
sifupr 2 years ago
Haha, i love how people try to fault your student and argue with you! Being at a rank of Master i would dare not argue with you as you are the Master.
I only have a years training in Wing Chun but i looks like you student done very well and im sure my Sigung would agree, who was also trained by William Cheung!
Gr8 work, keep the vids coming : )
MTFRANKLINSAC 2 years ago
This seems one of the more extreme WC videos I have seen... I'm curous, when you say you have studied other lineages did you find you shared common core concepts? I mean was it just a matter of 'Catsup or Ketchup' little variations or where differences more dramatic? I know the biu jee form is fairly different to the prehaps more common seen 1st & 2nd forms but this seems like alot of it is too indistinct from wildly swiping, stepping and slapping, I dont see much of the "classic" WC concepts.
Donkyfishy 2 years ago
Forms will vary among WC lineages. The principles however are more similar.
sifupr 2 years ago
how long has he dones this is cool how well he is using force with raising his soulders
kaindrg 2 years ago
The force should be generated by rotation of the whole body, which isn't the case here. Besides, there is no need to move all over the place. Stay where you are. If you really want to see a nice Biu Jee Form, check here : cwG8xLTKkUs
Nikoo033 2 years ago
Your comment is base on the WC you learned. There are many different versions/lineage of WC. I've studied different lineages of WC including 4 direct students of Yip Man over the last 39 years. My student in this video is doing exactly what he should be doing. We compete full contact and win. Show me a clip of your guys competing.
sifupr 2 years ago
Still. This is far from some of the known principles of Wing Chun, regardless of lineage : economy of energy and movement. As you may know (since you have trained under Ip Man's lineage, according to your posts), Ip man's sons Ip Ching and Ip Chun themselves don't do the form like your student but like I mentioned : using rotation of the whole body to generate the force. The form shown by your student reminds me this of William Cheung... who's supposed to have been trained under Ip Man lineage
Nikoo033 2 years ago
Everthing in that form has a practical application. It's just different what most people are used to seeing. I do what works and not what people think I should do. Out of respect I won't comment on the way others do the form.
sifupr 2 years ago
dude empty the cup. first of all its usually (not always) used when ur centre line is compromised in order to gain some ground so that u can get back in to bi jong and evne ip mans students have different ways of doing thing martial art is self expersion and different ppl will in with different results as do artist and their work.
kaindrg 2 years ago
not bad!
bobowai 2 years ago
Looks like a great workout. I've learned the modern Yip Man Siu Nim Tao and Chum Kiu so far but have yet to learn the traditional forms. I think it's important to learn both but that's just me :p
shuyin131 2 years ago
im going to study this way.. it looks very challenging, and the diaphragm pressure for respiration is crazy
walking1way 2 years ago
did he change it? it looks kinda different.
Rxnszjcd 2 years ago
It is different.
sifupr 2 years ago
i must say .. i tried do this, and it did feel different..it really felt like after weaving under the arms..the biu jee, and second biu jee was like locking into my opponent like a clinch.. and I was sweating, and panting.. like i really had to breathe my hits, and doing it fast perfectly is very tough..not your ordinary hip turns, even the kicks run smooth.. bow*
walking1way 2 years ago
r u sure this is yip man lineage?
Rxnszjcd 2 years ago
William Cheung learned from Yip Man .
sifupr 2 years ago
Nice! What lineage is this?
arekuso78 2 years ago
TWC lineages from William Cheung
sifupr 2 years ago
Very interesting! :)
arekuso78 2 years ago
Jonas: just straight up kickin' it! Speak that truth, my kung fu brother and 1st instructor in our beloved style. SIFU: ...I still practice Siu Lim Tao, Chum Kiu, and Biu Ji daily! Could you also Ryan Kennedy's demo? That's a badass vid!
kawfyzomby 2 years ago
Biu Jee is considered by some to be the cardio form.
sifupr 2 years ago
I MAY be wrong but isn't this form supposed to be done slowly like the rest of the Wing Chun forms?
judoka1976 2 years ago
holy shit!!! Was that a high kick?
DuykRuyk 2 years ago
Really nice. Sifupr, you must be an excellent teacher.
pjkiger 2 years ago
Nope, this isn't the Biu Jee thought by Leung Ting. Seems like William Cheung according to the uniform, i might be wrong thou. :)
alphagor 2 years ago
That's my student during a private lesson. I'm Sifu Phillip Redmond. A long time student of GM William Cheung.
sifupr 2 years ago
haha is it just wing chun or does every shared kung fu vid get this same "I know better than you" and "thats not blahblahblah"?
I for one enjoyed your presentation of this set.. as I enjoy the thousands of other versions I have seen, I have yet to encounter ANY human shape who didnt have things for me to learn from them. Thanks for sharing
sloppymantis 2 years ago
too fast, too mixed :D
JuodasisAngelas 2 years ago
Too fast according to who? This form develops cardio which is important for fighters. And the form is not mixed. There are many different lineages of WC and they probably won't look like the WC you are familiar with.
Regards, Sifu Redmond
sifupr 2 years ago
I'm sorry if i insaulted you sifu. its just its to fast for me to see all the move so i told thats too fast (for me). And thank you for explaining everything. i thought that there is some, different lineaeges of WC, but know thanks to you I can be sure .Thank you again.
With big respect, Greta
kika0125 2 years ago
No problem. I've studied from 4 direct students of Yip Man and they all said that Biu Jee was to be done fast to get cardio since the other forms don't develop cardio.
sifupr 2 years ago
which 4 students were they --- please pm me on my profile for answers =).
Thanks --- Btw great form
robo199617 2 years ago
The 4 YM students were Moy Yat, Duncan Leung, Alan Lee, William Cheung. I also studied with Alan Lamb, Lee Moy Shan, Henry Leung, etc.
sifupr 2 years ago
looks a but too power oriented to me seems like it needs to be more fluid. But hey its good
Blitzzeig 2 years ago
cheung´s wing chun,
peterwing 2 years ago
can anybody help me, I have trained this form since 2004 but I'm not sure that I understand the applications.
brumbybrumby 2 years ago
very cool. you should make videos of the other kuen in wing chun. i'm from hung gar and i like to look for the similarities in the two related, but very different styles.
yetidetective 3 years ago
Very good... good teacher too Sifu Redmond :)
S4muraiKuma 3 years ago
Parabéns !!! Excelente performance...
louvoredanca 3 years ago
very well executed , respect.
zoolkhan 3 years ago
this is impressive. my deep respect.
I recognised the moves, but i have not often seen them performed with this kind of precision and dynamics.
(i am student of leung ting wt branch)
zoolkhan 3 years ago
You have very good energy, sir. You also have a very good teacher. Much respect to Sifu Redmond.
narayanr 3 years ago
wow this is very simular to our 3rd set
prancelee 3 years ago
That's my student doing the TWC form. What lineage are you from?
sifupr 3 years ago
Hey Sifu Redmond. I want to learn the "Biu Jee Form" too. How many hours should I train every day and with which kind of training should I start?
S4muraiKuma 3 years ago
I'm from the main lineage (idk what that is called) but im only certified for siu nim tao form but next year my sifu is going to teach us chum kui.
Merzy0 2 years ago
If you spell it like Siu Nim Tao and Chum Kiu than you're surely from Prof. Leung Ting's branch. :)
alphagor 2 years ago
You don't have to be from LT's branch to Romanize that way. Many other "branches" use the same spelling.
sifupr 2 years ago
From my humble point of view it seems like you are breaking most WC/VT/WT concetps... please correct me if I am wrong, but I found the form not really refined, I think you shoulders are not supposed to be moving that much , your entire body structure trembles, is that on purpose?
PoTeRedMage 3 years ago
Biu Jee??....
kokojo74 3 years ago
Yes, that's Biu Jee. My kung fu brother V.A. Thomas (who you have on your homepage), knows that there are different lineages of WC/VT/WT
Ask him.
Sifupr
sifupr 3 years ago
Ok...thanks.
kokojo74 3 years ago
Wow... I can see your power behind your blows and blocks... very impressive. Good hips ;)
DrunknShaolinBoxer 3 years ago
Very nice. Are you a student of Bruce Corles or William Cheung?
TimRedfern 3 years ago
He is one of my students in Detroit.
sifupr 3 years ago
Don't stop; whoever and wherever you are!
Gosh, if you did it slower then I could better see what you were doing.
Oh well, great show though.
narayanr 3 years ago 2