@leexlma 50,000 is a ton, out of every 1,000 men that would fight in the Civil War 150 would be wounded as for most wars theres usually more wounded than dead. Usually not even half of the casualties were KIA and most were wounded but out of the tens of thousands of wounded half would many times die of wounds or disease. As SDloco100 said only 50,000 soldiers died in the whole Vietnam war.
I love this movie, Born and raise Nc, and but Im a history buff , all wars, but CIVil War is my favorite...what all of them went through, and sacrifice :))))) GOD bless
@F6FHELLCAT12 It was also the fist war to use lot of trenches and fortification and cover instead of fighting in big formations firing back and forth. Lots of people think it was WW1 that used trenches but trenches were used almost in every battle in the Civil War and got to be as big a WW1 trenches at the Siege of Petersburg and the Siege of Vicksburg.
@Nosensefornonsense Pretty much. lol actually lol........Most Repubs were union and Dems were Confeds. why? Dems believed in less government aka separating from America. Tha'ts one huge reason they were fighting. The south wanted to be it's own country.
The core-question is .Why didnt the south abolish slavery by itself.Then this war had never happened.And it lasted again 100 years till the afro-americans got their whole civil-rights.Why did they learn so hard,esp. by the hard way???
@killerrj8 The north were outnumbered. They have been losing for years. The south was heading for DC but when they got to Gettysburg they meet with the north by accident. The whole battle happend by accident. The north took a stand in the hills. They won. From then on it was north victories. Also for the first time General Robert E Lee was defeted. That was the turning point.
@SDloco100 Actually the north was not outnumbered and Lees invasion plan wasnt DC it was originally Baltimore as stated in James Longstreets writings after the war. The South had no chance from the start unless they had foreign intervention from Great Britain. As the late great Shelby Foote stated the north fought the war with one hand tied behind her back, if she would have started to lose, shed just bring that other arm around. It was just a matter of time.
@killerrj8 You make an intelligent point. Though the attack failed, Gettysburg was NOT the routing it is made out to be. Look up the statistics. The casualties on both sides are nearly identical. The north had not only been defeated, but totally humiliated by a much smaller, more poorly equiped army, for over two years before this. The war raged on for nearly 2 years after this, until the numbers finally triumphed. This was the first thing the north could feel good about. Sameful for them, huh?
Despite the clear advantage in equipment, logistics etc you have to admire the souths determination but never the less this was a black mark in American history and frankly a conflict that both sides should have made more effort to avoid
@KoMmIzZaR98 Because even back then money talked & Banks dictated & caused wars in the name of greed.... just like right now ( look at Libya ). The elites who control this World ( Banks & Corporations who own Governments & Mainstream Media ) will always get the dumbed down public fighting with each other while they sit back, laugh & PROFIT. They won't teach you that in school!
more may have died in Vietnam than Gettysburg but if we looked at the Civil War as a whole and you combined all the United States wars from the beginning of our country up to the Civil War, skipping over the Civil War, and adding all the rest of the wars to today; the number of killed and wounded wouldn’t total the number of killed and wounded during the Civil War.
That blurb is sooooo inaccurate. More KIA at Gettysburg than during all the years of Vietnam? No. There were about 51,000 casualties at G'Burg in total--that's KIA AND wounded together. There were over 58,000 killed in Vietnam. The shocker is that this was only 3 days and Vietnam officially lasted from 1959 to 1974 (5 really)
@TheJackRussle Attacks against fortified hills sometimes worked, that's why they kept using them throughout the war. At Gaines Mill (1862) the Confederates broke through what some historians consider the strongest position ever held by either army in the entire war. Sitting on your ass 150 years after the fact and calling them retarded is childish nonsense.
Todays the day - RIGHT NOW - The 14th Indiana is called upon by Hancock to save Cemetery Hill because the 11th Corps is a bunch of new england pussies.
It was the midwesterners draged into this war who won it for the pompist east who created the shit to begin with.
More than died all the years in Vietnam??? Yeah, if you dont include the million civilians who where killed over there... Pretty stupid comparison in my opinion!
@Slakmans Theirs a thing called context, which you seemed to have completely missed. The Quote is talking about the 50,000 some odd dead and wounded at Gettysburg equaling the total American deaths during the entirety of the Vietnam war (which is not to far off in actuality).
If your comparing the American casualty's from one event and the total US deaths in another event you do not need to count the participants who are not US citizens.
@RonnieRimjob They could be worse they could come from a country that's people are just as fat, out of shape, illiterate and uneducated assholes but without significance and positive impact on the world to balance it out...ie yours.
the thing about this movie is that it needed more of the battle it wasnt just mcphersons ridge little round top and pickets charge they should have included the wheatfield culps hill trostle farm the town itself was a small battleground and the calvary battle
The South was doomed from the start, The economy was badly damaged with the blockade and if the war kept going on the South couldn't sustain the upkeep of their armies.(Nothing against Southerners but the North had a better economy and more soldiers and resources at their disposal)
@curtissurfer im trying to find it too man! lol i love the way it sounds want to learn it and put some drum beats on it see what it sounds like lol just for fun
The trailer is slightly inaccurate when it reads that more Americans died or were wounded at Gettysburg than in all the years of the Vietnam War. First of all, the 51,000 casualties at G'burg are a combination of killed AND wounded. Secondly, the number killed in Vietnam is over 58,000. Still, almost 30,000 were killed at Gettysburg, with 51,000 total casualties, and that in only 3 days. Incredible. Vietnam went on from 1959-1973. 3 days vs. 14 years. Unbelievable, and horrible.
@rickcee rlly the only reason civil war had sooo many casualties was the fukin stupid ass tactics they were using.. they were fighting with Napolionic strategies..which date back to the 1700s. straight lines shoulder to shoulder.. stupidity... those generals should have been shot for their lack of intelligence.. i would have made squads and split them up like a smart person would do | | | | | | | | not |||||||||||||| lol i would also have soldiers with good aiming in tree's
first of all the tactics that were used were because of the low range of the weapons at the time, second the civil war has nothing in common with the napoleonic wars. It is widely considered the first modern war because it was more similar to the first world war. The straight line tactics you refer to were used only a handful of times. There were so many varying tactics and strategy employed, hell even trench warfare. Brush up on your civil war history moron
@Demiurge13 um ur a moron hes right more than half a million americans died was cause they were fighting in straght coloms walking towards each other they used this tactic more than any other in the entire war the reason y its the first modern war was because they were expermenting with new tactics like gurella fighting (not so new just not used often by a nations miltary) ur a dumbass and know nothing about the civil war fukin dumbass...
what a fucken asshole and illiterate fucktard you are. I never said they NEVER used any of those straight column tactics. After all i did explain why they did indeed used them. Way to fucken read you moron. However, my point still stands. Regardless of the fact they used straight column tactics it is still considered the first modern war akin to the first world war because of all the other tactics that were used like trench warfare. and more often than you think..
@Demiurge13 way to spell fucking wrong you illiterate queer. THEY WERE USING NAPOLIONIC STRATEGIES and they were using RIFLED barrels which gave them longer range due to the spiral shape inside the rifle dumbass, before then was SMOOTHBORE barrels, which fired round pieces of metal instead of a bullet shaped piece of metal, before you talk your shit about how wrong i am kid learn what the fuck your talking about. im not saying all battles completely used napolionic strategies.. just mostly.
oh look, someone who sticks their nose into a conversation that didn't involve him to tell only one of the people involved in that conversation to relax.... yea... the fact that you probably didn't even bother to see that the other guy was the one who was getting overly aggressive is enough to make YOU the idiot, but the fact that you only tell me to relax and not him not only shows your bias but it shows how much of a moron you are. Mind your own business douchebag
@Demiurge13 The title "first modern war" is meaningless. Historians have applied to other conflicts: Napoleonic Wars, Crimean War, Franco-Prussian War, etc. Trench warfare was around long before the CW, especially during sieges going back to medieval times and earlier, the soldiers of the Civil War simply rediscovered it out of necessity. There is never anything new under the sun.
Why don't you go read up on as much about the civil war as you can, books are your friend. though that may be hard for someone with trouble reading effectively like you. Don't just accept all the stuff thats spoon fed to you by your dumb public school teachers. Do your own research if you have a brain and can think for yourself. Especially if you look at primary sources like journals and letters and newspapers from the actial time. Your the dumbass
@Demiurge13 and if u are going to disclaim historical facts because u read a letter wrote by some dead guy from a hundred years ago then ur still a moron you think you're smart but everything ur saying is just bullshit everything ur saying its all bullshit. the most common tactic was marching colums and taking volloys at each other they didnt have the technolgy advancements for a new style of fighting but they were getting close it was a combunation of line infantry and trench war!! dumbass
@firelordify really? You're 15 and u dont use profanity i doubt it grow some fukin nuts you're 15 plz tell me uve kissed a girl before if u havint then the new genration is going to be filled with gay calfornians if thats true im moveing some where more manly like austrlia...
@firelordify really cause i live in texas and ive been all over the united states and people all look the same.
You act like profanity is only used by people with a small vocabulary when really its used to expell anger and hatred or make someone angry to show them they just dont give a fuck and hate u profanity is good or bad its neathier its only a few selected words ppl decided un fit for ppl's ears or (young ppl's ears) and u didnt answer the other questions so u disspoint me...
@TheGefro O, and I have kissed a girl. I really didn't see a point in answering it at the time, but if you want to know more about my life go ahead ask me some more questions.
@TheGefro yea cause accounts from people who were actually there living and breathing in that time are bullshit. I see your logic. By that line of thinking all the news of today will be bullshit to people a hundred years from now if they think like you. Your logic is flawed, your thinking is flawed and if you want to see a real dumbass look in the mirror.
@ty1977 You are greatly mistaken, the blacks did not cause the war. What caused the war was the national government wanted to control what the South did or did not do. All the South wanted was more state's rights and less national government.
@amdr427 I am sure you do know more then i, i wasnt trying a cocky statement. so it wasnt hust cause that John Rice guy? i love the history of the american civil war
@LoneWolfofAlaska ...and slavery made them dead, hahaha...lee probably realized that so he found a way to end slavery in the US once and for all, lol.
So many great actors made appearances in this movie. Jeff Daniels, Tom Berenger, Martin Sheen, C. Thomas Howell, Sam Elliott, the list goes on. It's well worth the 4 hours and 45 minutes it runs to watch this movie. What really sucks is the fact that this movie was a box-office flop. How disrespectful!
@joshuabrooks21 I wouldn't call it disrespectful. Most people just don't have the patience to sit in the theater for over four hours, especially since most movies don't have intermissions anymore. I love Gettysburg but I still need to take a break and stretch about halfway through.
@WardysVIDSrWANK I have been in this business for nearly thirty years, the last eleven years my research team and I dig deep at the National Archives and read thousands of books at the Library of Congress, which is the largest library in the world. Of the 55,000-65,000 Civil War books written and publish the LOC has the most. I have covered at least half the books and will continue once I retire from the US. Army. You don't have to believe men on anything, challenge me.
@belangerist Look for the book "Black Confederates, Lost Historical Identity". Published in 2001. The author is African-American and his GGGG-Grandfather fought as a free black in the Confederate Army. Mr. Robert E. Harrison, estimated that "65,000" free Africans served with the Confederacy and of that number, "13,000" saw combat. Lee certainly brought at least 10,000-12,000 with him in the Pennsylvania Campaign/Gettysburg. They were the teamsters, cooks, medical, ordnance, engineers, foragers.
I am a confederate supporter, so I watched Gods and Generals and not this movie, because Gods and Generals gave a great point of view of the South, while i heard this one gave it more from the North. Is this movie worth watching though, or will it just make me mad?
@Evongelo This movie is focused on the winner side, perhaps it will make you mad. Still, if you watch it with an open mind you may end up liking it. Is a very good movie.
@Evongelo Nope. The Confederates still have like a 60-40 superior amount of screentime over the Union. The only difference is that in this movie they get their asses handed to them.
lol cool thanx. I wish robert devaul still played Lee in this one though. On the bright side at least we get that one awesome actor with the realy sweet voice. maybe the two cant exist in the same movie because it would be too awesome
Technically Martin Sheen was Lee before Devaul since Gettysburg came out in, I believe was 93. If not sometime in the early 90s. I do agree with you Devaul did play a good Lee, but Sheen did as well.
@mptrunner Mr Duvall is actually a direct descendant of General Robert E. Lee. During the making of "Gods and Generals" back in 2001, some scenes were filmed on Mr. Duvall's land in Warrenton., Virginia. So he was really playing the part of his ancestor.
@imaStonesFan Martin Sheen played "General Lee" in the movie "Gettysburg" which was filmed way back in 1991. "Gods and Generals" had Robert Duvall play "General Lee". Lets us hope "The last full measure" is filmed!
@jrs689 Because Gettysburg is the only battle Lee lost. Nor did "Gettysburg the movie" go in much depth on the Confederates winning July 1st and driving MG. Sickles 3rd Corps on July 2nd. That was either skipped or not much was filmed on it. The highlight of the movie is Pickett's Charge. Nor during the filming of "Gods and Generals" did the show the Union getting their asses handed to them at Marye's Heights. The AOP lost 8,000 men compared to 4,802 at Pickett's Charge. Hollywood is biased.
@rebel2276 Hollywood is not biased. When you watch the movie Gettysburg you find it does not focus on who won or lost but what the average infantrymen went through at the battle itself. You need to watch the movie again and Lee every battle during the Seven Days Campaign you need to restudy the American Civil War before spouting off like that .
@wodkins Sorry I could not reply as fast as I wanted too, I am back in Afghanistan. But to touch on this subject, the movie "Gods and Generals" was the first major motion movie to show the Confederates winning a battle. I was in the "Gettysburg" movie as a Captain of my small company of friends, when they were looking for as many people to fill in for the movie. The late Brian Pohanka played "BG. Webb", I met Brian back in April 2000 and I did not know that was him, lol.
@wodkins One weekend he invited me over to his house (Alexandria, Virginia) and we sat down and watched the movie. I had seen the movie several hundreds of times. Brian asked me what I believed was "Hollywood" and "Reality". So I pointed out that MG. Reynold's was not killed by a Confederate sharpshooter with a telescope rifle, complete nonsense. Little Round top, "Bayonet Charge" is complete nonsense as well. Half of the Confederates in "Pickett's Charge" fell out of the attack.
@TigerRifle1 Very good question, Jeff Shaara wrote, "Gods and Generals", "The last full measure", "Rise to Rebellion", Mexican War, American Revolution, WW2, WW1 books as well. His father Michaell Shaara wrote "Killer Angels". But, how do you make a movie based on one single book writer? Why not gather the top 25 and have them all put their experience and information into a Civil War movie? Mr. Pfanz would have the most knowledge on Gettysburg. He worked at Gettysburg back in the 50's/60's.
@TigerRifle1 Jeff Shaara lives down in Florida, he certainly can not claim to have "Years and Decades" of experience at the National Archives or Library of Congress, in Washington DC. 99% of historians and book writers do not live in Washington DC. Thus, they can not spend much time doing research on their book. My research team and I, are at both buildings everyday after work, except Sunday, when they are closed. We have sacrificed hundreds of Saturday's doing research.
@TigerRifle1 As you can read, what I type on here is the very latest information on the Civil War. None of the information we found as ever been published, there are reasons for that of course. The Government has to keep up with the cover up, they have done a outstanding job for the past 150 years. But ask yourself, when do you believe the last time the US. Government was honest with it's people? Half of Americans believe 9-11 was a cover up, Kennedy's assassination was a cover up.
@TigerRifle1 In reality, the war was not the fault of Northerners or Southerners. Lincoln was pressured by a "Higher Authority" to start the war. We have found some very interesting letters, never published (Never will be), that proved to us, who was behind the war. Lincoln himself wrote who was behind the war, but that letter will never be published, lol. I laugh because because the US. Government really thought they were going to cover up everything and fool all of us.
@wodkins It just disturbs me to see these "Hollywood" movies come out with Civil War movies that are far from truth and reality. I have been in this business for nearly Thirty years and not many historians can claim to have done research in Washington DC, at the National Archives and Library of Congress. My research team and I have found tons of things never published (And never will be). We know what caused the war and who was behind it all and Lincoln's assassination.
@wodkins With the movie, "Conspirator" coming out soon, this should be interesting on what did Hollywood and director Robert Redford find and will show. So we have a betting pool going on that they will not point out who was behind it all nor the "Highest Powers" who directed them to carry out the orders. Orders go down, not up. I will not be able to see the movie, for the war out here is much more time consuming.
If you have any questions on the battles, war, feel free to ask me.
It was an co-production between New Line Cinema and Turner Broadcasting (the Atlanta-owned company who purchased the company in the same year, 1993), both were merged into Time Warner (the owner of Warner Bros.) in 1996.
@coopebt The fake mustaches are on purpose. See Turner understood that if this film was any more fantastic people may actually have believed that the Civil War was still being faught! Next thing you know, the SOuth would secede again! Therefore the obviously fake mustaches were a safety measure. :P
I was thrilled when I saw Gettysburg the first time. I had not known of the 20th Maine or Chamberlain. It is a great movie and better when it can be seen on the big screen. I had to throw a dig about Boise State in there b/c I am lobbying hard for a national playoff system. I would love to see BSU play LSU or Alabama (for instance) in a playoff round just to see.
@Boelcke1916 Overrated? If so I agree. Why they even show them at Fredericksburg when their losses were under 30 men is strange. The 16th Maine lost over 200 men and at Gettysburg they lost practically 95% of their regiment. But nothing on them though!
Just finished watching it. Impressive set pieces but the acting and script is pretentious as hell. As for the soundtrack, it would try to convince you something profound was being said or being done but would fail miserably. Give me Glory or Cold Mountain any day. Or even the Horse Soldiers for that matter. Also didn't like the moral equivalency. Lee's army in Pennsylvania actively caught escaped slaves and free blacks and sent south to bondage. Should have showed it. They deserved to lose.
I was in this movie and Gods and Generals. We sure had fun making the two. We are on the 150 yr aniv. of the Civil War. There will be alot of big reenactments coming up in the next couple of years. I am the surgeon with the 11th P.V.I.
I'm fourteen, and first saw this movie at thirteen. In my opinion, it's one of the best films ever made. And I'm a Northerner, but I'd just like to say:
RALLY BEHIND THE VIRGINIANS!!!! RISE AGAIN MY CONFEDERATE BRETHREN!!!! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE TYRANNICAL AMERICAN FEDERAL GOVERMENT!!!! SIC SEMPER TYRANNNIS AND DEO VINDICE!!!
Sorry about that; Obama and the left get me angry.
@pljker No, I just believe that the South had more legal reason to leave us than we had to leave Britain, and that they had the bravest and most honorable army in the world.
@DarthPraxus27 bravest hardly, most honorable is still questionable, ti counts which army, you can not say "They" as in the CSA had many different armies stretching from the Mississippi to Virgina. Not all had commanders who can be praised like Lee, it could be said it's way pretty much every film focus mostly on the east coast, it is the most romantic theator of the war.
That is correct. If I remember right, the CSA faired many times worse on the Western front but no one ever pays it much attention because Lee, Grant, Sherman and all of them were on the East Coast.
I disagree on all accounts. It's easy for us to repeat the same rhetoric we hear all the time but the focus is, really, only on a few events and people. Lee, Pickett's Charge (brave but foolish, I might add), Stonewall Jackson.
We often forget that there was a whole other front where, by the way, the CSA faired far worse. In fact, in the west, almost all the battles in the West favored the north, even the strategic stalemates.
@AeslingKerrigan actually millions god bless USA
bobett397 3 days ago
ok BICHES this a great movie dislikers look at the dislike bar now look at your penis,there the same size
revolucion268 3 weeks ago 2
this is my favorite civil war movie
jordanrb1996 3 weeks ago 2
wheres denzal washington and the other black soldiers?
tag1989 1 month ago
@tag1989 Uhh that is glory..
RageChipz 1 month ago
@RageChipz hahahaahah i think your right
tag1989 1 month ago
@tag1989 thats a total different movie
nicothegreat795 1 month ago
it says more died at gettysburg than in vietnam but only about 50'000 died at gettysburg
leexlma 1 month ago
@leexlma yeah it's true only 50,000 soldiers died in the Vietnam war
SDloco100 1 month ago
@leexlma 50,000 is a ton, out of every 1,000 men that would fight in the Civil War 150 would be wounded as for most wars theres usually more wounded than dead. Usually not even half of the casualties were KIA and most were wounded but out of the tens of thousands of wounded half would many times die of wounds or disease. As SDloco100 said only 50,000 soldiers died in the whole Vietnam war.
AUG351 1 month ago in playlist Gettysburg
@leexlma You're only counting US soldiers.. I'm sure hundreds of thousands of North & South Vietnamese died during the Vietnam war.
AislingKerrigan 1 week ago
I love this movie, Born and raise Nc, and but Im a history buff , all wars, but CIVil War is my favorite...what all of them went through, and sacrifice :))))) GOD bless
dougssmookie 2 months ago
im probably southern at heart.
spyroqueen99 2 months ago
this is a great film. im from the north but while i watch this it makes me want the CSA to win the battle i love this movie
dukeian01 2 months ago
the American civil wars was more of a testing ground for new European inventions of war with some American inventions as well
F6FHELLCAT12 2 months ago
@F6FHELLCAT12 It was also the fist war to use lot of trenches and fortification and cover instead of fighting in big formations firing back and forth. Lots of people think it was WW1 that used trenches but trenches were used almost in every battle in the Civil War and got to be as big a WW1 trenches at the Siege of Petersburg and the Siege of Vicksburg.
AUG351 1 month ago in playlist Gettysburg
what a waste of fake beards
TurboXtr3me 2 months ago
gjffh
foxdub1 2 months ago
this movie is cool, I own this movie and man do I love it!!!!
umbrellacorpsoldier1 3 months ago
1:26 That was so good acting!
Sergeant1990 3 months ago
Has anyone heard about the next HBO war mini series will be about the civil war called To Appomattox, heard it will be in 2013.
AUG351 3 months ago
The 1st thing that came in my mind when i watched this trailer was Democrates (North) vs Republicans (South) xD
Nosensefornonsense 3 months ago
@Nosensefornonsense Pretty much. lol actually lol........Most Repubs were union and Dems were Confeds. why? Dems believed in less government aka separating from America. Tha'ts one huge reason they were fighting. The south wanted to be it's own country.
Philliesboy16 3 months ago
@Philliesboy16 And yet those places have swapped in the last 30 years.
WolfGuyX 2 months ago
The core-question is .Why didnt the south abolish slavery by itself.Then this war had never happened.And it lasted again 100 years till the afro-americans got their whole civil-rights.Why did they learn so hard,esp. by the hard way???
xylfox 3 months ago
Can someone explain me the point of why this is such a honored win in the USA?
The north won with more men and sittin on a hill. Well i don't get it
killerrj8 5 months ago
@killerrj8 The north were outnumbered. They have been losing for years. The south was heading for DC but when they got to Gettysburg they meet with the north by accident. The whole battle happend by accident. The north took a stand in the hills. They won. From then on it was north victories. Also for the first time General Robert E Lee was defeted. That was the turning point.
SDloco100 4 months ago
@SDloco100 Actually the north was not outnumbered and Lees invasion plan wasnt DC it was originally Baltimore as stated in James Longstreets writings after the war. The South had no chance from the start unless they had foreign intervention from Great Britain. As the late great Shelby Foote stated the north fought the war with one hand tied behind her back, if she would have started to lose, shed just bring that other arm around. It was just a matter of time.
Imachowderhead 4 months ago
@killerrj8 You make an intelligent point. Though the attack failed, Gettysburg was NOT the routing it is made out to be. Look up the statistics. The casualties on both sides are nearly identical. The north had not only been defeated, but totally humiliated by a much smaller, more poorly equiped army, for over two years before this. The war raged on for nearly 2 years after this, until the numbers finally triumphed. This was the first thing the north could feel good about. Sameful for them, huh?
stellalouise1 4 months ago
ap hill was always my fav southern general although he didnt do to great here at gettysburg
Johnny55199 5 months ago
Despite the clear advantage in equipment, logistics etc you have to admire the souths determination but never the less this was a black mark in American history and frankly a conflict that both sides should have made more effort to avoid
MonstrousPeanut 6 months ago
Such an appalling, useless and disastrous waste of life. Why does mankind have to do such awful things to each other.
KoMmIzZaR98 6 months ago
@KoMmIzZaR98 Called sin, get used to it...
IcedPlasma5213 6 months ago
@KoMmIzZaR98 Because even back then money talked & Banks dictated & caused wars in the name of greed.... just like right now ( look at Libya ). The elites who control this World ( Banks & Corporations who own Governments & Mainstream Media ) will always get the dumbed down public fighting with each other while they sit back, laugh & PROFIT. They won't teach you that in school!
robhere1982 5 months ago
more may have died in Vietnam than Gettysburg but if we looked at the Civil War as a whole and you combined all the United States wars from the beginning of our country up to the Civil War, skipping over the Civil War, and adding all the rest of the wars to today; the number of killed and wounded wouldn’t total the number of killed and wounded during the Civil War.
625,000+ kia/wounded
woodyjrj74 6 months ago
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woodyjrj74 6 months ago
That blurb is sooooo inaccurate. More KIA at Gettysburg than during all the years of Vietnam? No. There were about 51,000 casualties at G'Burg in total--that's KIA AND wounded together. There were over 58,000 killed in Vietnam. The shocker is that this was only 3 days and Vietnam officially lasted from 1959 to 1974 (5 really)
rickcee 6 months ago
the confederates were retarted for attacking the union on a hill they had fortified, they made alot of big mistakes in the civil war
TheJackRussle 6 months ago
@TheJackRussle Attacks against fortified hills sometimes worked, that's why they kept using them throughout the war. At Gaines Mill (1862) the Confederates broke through what some historians consider the strongest position ever held by either army in the entire war. Sitting on your ass 150 years after the fact and calling them retarded is childish nonsense.
40AcreMule 5 months ago
Todays the day - RIGHT NOW - The 14th Indiana is called upon by Hancock to save Cemetery Hill because the 11th Corps is a bunch of new england pussies.
It was the midwesterners draged into this war who won it for the pompist east who created the shit to begin with.
1967mustanggta 7 months ago
More than died all the years in Vietnam??? Yeah, if you dont include the million civilians who where killed over there... Pretty stupid comparison in my opinion!
Slakmans 7 months ago 2
@Slakmans Fuck civilians
EpicTrollBeastMan 7 months ago
@EpicTrollBeastMan Wow you must be really tough and cool, keep on rocking kid
Slakmans 6 months ago
@Slakmans You should see me beat women and small dogs. Fucking masterful.
EpicTrollBeastMan 6 months ago
@Slakmans Theirs a thing called context, which you seemed to have completely missed. The Quote is talking about the 50,000 some odd dead and wounded at Gettysburg equaling the total American deaths during the entirety of the Vietnam war (which is not to far off in actuality).
If your comparing the American casualty's from one event and the total US deaths in another event you do not need to count the participants who are not US citizens.
nebfer 2 months ago
anyone know where i can watch this movie for free online ? Without downloads ?
Thegamersofnorway1 7 months ago
type in and watch -
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You will never again think the same about the Civil War or Taylor Swift
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1967mustanggta 7 months ago
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RonnieRimjob 7 months ago
@RonnieRimjob They could be worse they could come from a country that's people are just as fat, out of shape, illiterate and uneducated assholes but without significance and positive impact on the world to balance it out...ie yours.
b8kerskatr 7 months ago
@RonnieRimjob America is your Ally so shut your mouth you bloated useless excuse for a human.
Sounds to be that your just jealous that they are a better country then you are.
Seriously, people who feel the need to bash the U.S at every opportunity are just jealous worthless pricks.
Don't come crying to the US when a natural disaster strikes your country, since they are always the first in to give aid. Stupid asshole.
Tebok73509 7 months ago 2
@Tebok73509 Urm... the US tends to give less aid than most countries in Europe.
WolfGuyX 2 months ago
i just got done playing black ops so im sorry but...fuck that! i would of ran out there with my ak-47 dual mags.
p1x3lp0w3r44 7 months ago
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gallinitaciegav 7 months ago
the thing about this movie is that it needed more of the battle it wasnt just mcphersons ridge little round top and pickets charge they should have included the wheatfield culps hill trostle farm the town itself was a small battleground and the calvary battle
metalrulesforrever 7 months ago
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it"
-Robert E. Lee-
rockndude87 7 months ago 2
The South was doomed from the start, The economy was badly damaged with the blockade and if the war kept going on the South couldn't sustain the upkeep of their armies.(Nothing against Southerners but the North had a better economy and more soldiers and resources at their disposal)
lawlayer44 8 months ago
THE NORTH RULES
unlost 8 months ago
Can't wait for this to start. One more hour for us on the west coast!
DickHouseInc 8 months ago
im watchin that gettysburg thing on history channel it is amazing
metalrulesforrever 8 months ago
@metalrulesforrever me to
xLegendaryAssassin 8 months ago
Charlie Sheens Dad?
BlackRNGR 8 months ago
@BlackRNGR yup
FManAngryAmerican 7 months ago
I hate when responses are top comments....
XxXWorserCaeserXxX 8 months ago
The name of the song on the History Channel trailer is called "Running Up That Hill" by Placebo
Skotoso 8 months ago
@Skotoso Ha, I thought it sounded like Placebo! Thanks!
420Guitar420 8 months ago
Wats the song called when it's on the commercial?
Dinam1ta 8 months ago
the most epic movie of all times
walleye2416 8 months ago
They dont make movies like this anymore. No CGI, just pure passion...It still blows me away
ak47110 8 months ago
Does anybody know the song they played for this trailer on tv and at the movies??
curtissurfer 8 months ago
@curtissurfer im trying to find it too man! lol i love the way it sounds want to learn it and put some drum beats on it see what it sounds like lol just for fun
K1ssTh1z 8 months ago
@curtissurfer Running up that Hill by Placebo
TheDreamTrance 8 months ago
@curtissurfer Running up that Hill by Placebo. No wait, my bad. That was for the history channel trailer :P
TheDreamTrance 8 months ago
im so excited for this movie to come out im abig fan of this
branari98 8 months ago
im so excited for this movie to comw out its going to be great
branari98 8 months ago
Schade gewann die Union........Die CSA wollte doch nur ihre Unabhängigkeit!
Bohnenblust91 8 months ago
The trailer is slightly inaccurate when it reads that more Americans died or were wounded at Gettysburg than in all the years of the Vietnam War. First of all, the 51,000 casualties at G'burg are a combination of killed AND wounded. Secondly, the number killed in Vietnam is over 58,000. Still, almost 30,000 were killed at Gettysburg, with 51,000 total casualties, and that in only 3 days. Incredible. Vietnam went on from 1959-1973. 3 days vs. 14 years. Unbelievable, and horrible.
rickcee 8 months ago
@rickcee rlly the only reason civil war had sooo many casualties was the fukin stupid ass tactics they were using.. they were fighting with Napolionic strategies..which date back to the 1700s. straight lines shoulder to shoulder.. stupidity... those generals should have been shot for their lack of intelligence.. i would have made squads and split them up like a smart person would do | | | | | | | | not |||||||||||||| lol i would also have soldiers with good aiming in tree's
K1ssTh1z 8 months ago
@K1ssTh1z
first of all the tactics that were used were because of the low range of the weapons at the time, second the civil war has nothing in common with the napoleonic wars. It is widely considered the first modern war because it was more similar to the first world war. The straight line tactics you refer to were used only a handful of times. There were so many varying tactics and strategy employed, hell even trench warfare. Brush up on your civil war history moron
Demiurge13 8 months ago
@Demiurge13 um ur a moron hes right more than half a million americans died was cause they were fighting in straght coloms walking towards each other they used this tactic more than any other in the entire war the reason y its the first modern war was because they were expermenting with new tactics like gurella fighting (not so new just not used often by a nations miltary) ur a dumbass and know nothing about the civil war fukin dumbass...
TheGefro 8 months ago
@TheGefro
what a fucken asshole and illiterate fucktard you are. I never said they NEVER used any of those straight column tactics. After all i did explain why they did indeed used them. Way to fucken read you moron. However, my point still stands. Regardless of the fact they used straight column tactics it is still considered the first modern war akin to the first world war because of all the other tactics that were used like trench warfare. and more often than you think..
Demiurge13 8 months ago 8
@Demiurge13 way to spell fucking wrong you illiterate queer. THEY WERE USING NAPOLIONIC STRATEGIES and they were using RIFLED barrels which gave them longer range due to the spiral shape inside the rifle dumbass, before then was SMOOTHBORE barrels, which fired round pieces of metal instead of a bullet shaped piece of metal, before you talk your shit about how wrong i am kid learn what the fuck your talking about. im not saying all battles completely used napolionic strategies.. just mostly.
K1ssTh1z 8 months ago
@Demiurge13 wow, relax, you're an idiot.
sirbenjamin87 7 months ago
@sirbenjamin87
oh look, someone who sticks their nose into a conversation that didn't involve him to tell only one of the people involved in that conversation to relax.... yea... the fact that you probably didn't even bother to see that the other guy was the one who was getting overly aggressive is enough to make YOU the idiot, but the fact that you only tell me to relax and not him not only shows your bias but it shows how much of a moron you are. Mind your own business douchebag
Demiurge13 7 months ago
@Demiurge13 Damn nigga Damn!!
jimmymallet55 7 months ago
@Demiurge13 The title "first modern war" is meaningless. Historians have applied to other conflicts: Napoleonic Wars, Crimean War, Franco-Prussian War, etc. Trench warfare was around long before the CW, especially during sieges going back to medieval times and earlier, the soldiers of the Civil War simply rediscovered it out of necessity. There is never anything new under the sun.
40AcreMule 5 months ago
@TheGefro
Why don't you go read up on as much about the civil war as you can, books are your friend. though that may be hard for someone with trouble reading effectively like you. Don't just accept all the stuff thats spoon fed to you by your dumb public school teachers. Do your own research if you have a brain and can think for yourself. Especially if you look at primary sources like journals and letters and newspapers from the actial time. Your the dumbass
Demiurge13 8 months ago
@Demiurge13 and if u are going to disclaim historical facts because u read a letter wrote by some dead guy from a hundred years ago then ur still a moron you think you're smart but everything ur saying is just bullshit everything ur saying its all bullshit. the most common tactic was marching colums and taking volloys at each other they didnt have the technolgy advancements for a new style of fighting but they were getting close it was a combunation of line infantry and trench war!! dumbass
TheGefro 8 months ago
@TheGefro, why is your spelling the equivalent to a 7th grader?
firelordify 8 months ago
@firelordify why are ur insults equivalent to an asshole!? Fuck off you fuckin prick.
TheGefro 8 months ago
@TheGefro Dude, just grow up. I am like 15 and don't see a need for profanity in this situation. All I did was ask a simple question.
firelordify 8 months ago
@firelordify really? You're 15 and u dont use profanity i doubt it grow some fukin nuts you're 15 plz tell me uve kissed a girl before if u havint then the new genration is going to be filled with gay calfornians if thats true im moveing some where more manly like austrlia...
TheGefro 8 months ago
@TheGefro I am from Texas, we are pretty manly here. I do not need to use profanity, when I have a vast vocabulary.
firelordify 8 months ago
@firelordify really cause i live in texas and ive been all over the united states and people all look the same.
You act like profanity is only used by people with a small vocabulary when really its used to expell anger and hatred or make someone angry to show them they just dont give a fuck and hate u profanity is good or bad its neathier its only a few selected words ppl decided un fit for ppl's ears or (young ppl's ears) and u didnt answer the other questions so u disspoint me...
TheGefro 8 months ago
@TheGefro O, and I have kissed a girl. I really didn't see a point in answering it at the time, but if you want to know more about my life go ahead ask me some more questions.
firelordify 3 months ago
@TheGefro yea cause accounts from people who were actually there living and breathing in that time are bullshit. I see your logic. By that line of thinking all the news of today will be bullshit to people a hundred years from now if they think like you. Your logic is flawed, your thinking is flawed and if you want to see a real dumbass look in the mirror.
Demiurge13 8 months ago
@Demiurge13 lol my bad i posted to you not to the other kid lmfaoTHEGefro is who im not liking right now.
K1ssTh1z 8 months ago
1:09 Lil' Roundtop.
TheDude9459 8 months ago
@TheDude9459 ahahaha dass fucked up
Mega1loser 8 months ago
fuck niggers
net107 8 months ago
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@net107 ahahaha dass fucked up
Mega1loser 8 months ago
Should be called Beardysberg.
TheSzemelak 8 months ago
I don't know if anyones been to the movies recently but if you have. Does anyone know the song for the preview of Gettysburg or where I can find it(
QAFgurl 8 months ago
i'm italian but i'm very passionate for all american civil war movies and gettysburg is a great movie. This movie in Italy is never been transmitted .
in the same period even in italy many important battle have been fought but nothing movie about
mullonz83 8 months ago
Faith made them soldiers...
War made them brothers...
Courage made them heroes...
LoneWolfofAlaska 8 months ago 53
@LoneWolfofAlaska
Bullets made them dead
Southparker100000000 6 months ago
@LoneWolfofAlaska A Flag and General became a car...
ty1977 6 months ago
@ty1977 The negro caused a war
ty1977 6 months ago
@ty1977 You are greatly mistaken, the blacks did not cause the war. What caused the war was the national government wanted to control what the South did or did not do. All the South wanted was more state's rights and less national government.
amdr427 3 months ago
@amdr427 I am sure you do know more then i, i wasnt trying a cocky statement. so it wasnt hust cause that John Rice guy? i love the history of the american civil war
ty1977 3 months ago
@amdr427 I thought they wanted to be a separate country altogether?
GuidoMetallo 3 months ago
@LoneWolfofAlaska
Friend....i like your words!!!
RESPECT!
arries1978 5 months ago
@LoneWolfofAlaska ...and slavery made them dead, hahaha...lee probably realized that so he found a way to end slavery in the US once and for all, lol.
Jeromepsy001 3 months ago
@LoneWolfofAlaska That part, made me feel couraged xD.
epicnub1 3 months ago
So many great actors made appearances in this movie. Jeff Daniels, Tom Berenger, Martin Sheen, C. Thomas Howell, Sam Elliott, the list goes on. It's well worth the 4 hours and 45 minutes it runs to watch this movie. What really sucks is the fact that this movie was a box-office flop. How disrespectful!
joshuabrooks21 9 months ago
@joshuabrooks21 I wouldn't call it disrespectful. Most people just don't have the patience to sit in the theater for over four hours, especially since most movies don't have intermissions anymore. I love Gettysburg but I still need to take a break and stretch about halfway through.
IronBrig4 8 months ago
@IronBrig4 That's right. Nowadays people are too busy playing with their phones to pay attention to the movie.
joshuabrooks21 8 months ago
Gettysburg is a great and epic film! This deserves an Oscar or any award! Thumbs up if you agree.
Fireburns4ever 9 months ago
2:18 that stinks...
PwnageGaming101 9 months ago
@rebel2276 you sir are talking bollocks. ;)
WardysVIDSrWANK 9 months ago
@WardysVIDSrWANK I have been in this business for nearly thirty years, the last eleven years my research team and I dig deep at the National Archives and read thousands of books at the Library of Congress, which is the largest library in the world. Of the 55,000-65,000 Civil War books written and publish the LOC has the most. I have covered at least half the books and will continue once I retire from the US. Army. You don't have to believe men on anything, challenge me.
rebel2276 9 months ago
long live the north and south
daviesguns69 9 months ago
LONG live the SOUTH!!
dolin2012 9 months ago
I like Glory better... my opinion.
CalvinKuo17 9 months ago
i saw this in social studies and it was awesome
Dude4945 10 months ago
Book "Black Southerners in confederate Armies" shows that there were black confederate soldiers (like Daniel Robinson)! Book at amazon!
belangerist 10 months ago
@belangerist Look for the book "Black Confederates, Lost Historical Identity". Published in 2001. The author is African-American and his GGGG-Grandfather fought as a free black in the Confederate Army. Mr. Robert E. Harrison, estimated that "65,000" free Africans served with the Confederacy and of that number, "13,000" saw combat. Lee certainly brought at least 10,000-12,000 with him in the Pennsylvania Campaign/Gettysburg. They were the teamsters, cooks, medical, ordnance, engineers, foragers.
rebel2276 10 months ago
pile of dogshit (no offence to dogshit though)
swinnock 10 months ago
Watch the trailer I made for my US History class.
It's from this movie :)
PBRDAL 10 months ago
I am a confederate supporter, so I watched Gods and Generals and not this movie, because Gods and Generals gave a great point of view of the South, while i heard this one gave it more from the North. Is this movie worth watching though, or will it just make me mad?
Evongelo 10 months ago
@Evongelo This movie is focused on the winner side, perhaps it will make you mad. Still, if you watch it with an open mind you may end up liking it. Is a very good movie.
PBRDAL 10 months ago
@Evongelo Nope. The Confederates still have like a 60-40 superior amount of screentime over the Union. The only difference is that in this movie they get their asses handed to them.
jrs689 10 months ago
@jrs689
lol cool thanx. I wish robert devaul still played Lee in this one though. On the bright side at least we get that one awesome actor with the realy sweet voice. maybe the two cant exist in the same movie because it would be too awesome
Evongelo 10 months ago
@Evongelo
Technically Martin Sheen was Lee before Devaul since Gettysburg came out in, I believe was 93. If not sometime in the early 90s. I do agree with you Devaul did play a good Lee, but Sheen did as well.
mptrunner 9 months ago
@mptrunner Mr Duvall is actually a direct descendant of General Robert E. Lee. During the making of "Gods and Generals" back in 2001, some scenes were filmed on Mr. Duvall's land in Warrenton., Virginia. So he was really playing the part of his ancestor.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@rebel2276 That was Martin Sheen i think.
imaStonesFan 9 months ago
@imaStonesFan Martin Sheen played "General Lee" in the movie "Gettysburg" which was filmed way back in 1991. "Gods and Generals" had Robert Duvall play "General Lee". Lets us hope "The last full measure" is filmed!
Thank you and a have a great day!
rebel2276 9 months ago
@rebel2276 Oh okay thank u much for the information. u have a great day too.
imaStonesFan 9 months ago
@jrs689 Because Gettysburg is the only battle Lee lost. Nor did "Gettysburg the movie" go in much depth on the Confederates winning July 1st and driving MG. Sickles 3rd Corps on July 2nd. That was either skipped or not much was filmed on it. The highlight of the movie is Pickett's Charge. Nor during the filming of "Gods and Generals" did the show the Union getting their asses handed to them at Marye's Heights. The AOP lost 8,000 men compared to 4,802 at Pickett's Charge. Hollywood is biased.
rebel2276 10 months ago
@rebel2276 Hollywood is not biased. When you watch the movie Gettysburg you find it does not focus on who won or lost but what the average infantrymen went through at the battle itself. You need to watch the movie again and Lee every battle during the Seven Days Campaign you need to restudy the American Civil War before spouting off like that .
wodkins 9 months ago
@wodkins Sorry I could not reply as fast as I wanted too, I am back in Afghanistan. But to touch on this subject, the movie "Gods and Generals" was the first major motion movie to show the Confederates winning a battle. I was in the "Gettysburg" movie as a Captain of my small company of friends, when they were looking for as many people to fill in for the movie. The late Brian Pohanka played "BG. Webb", I met Brian back in April 2000 and I did not know that was him, lol.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@wodkins One weekend he invited me over to his house (Alexandria, Virginia) and we sat down and watched the movie. I had seen the movie several hundreds of times. Brian asked me what I believed was "Hollywood" and "Reality". So I pointed out that MG. Reynold's was not killed by a Confederate sharpshooter with a telescope rifle, complete nonsense. Little Round top, "Bayonet Charge" is complete nonsense as well. Half of the Confederates in "Pickett's Charge" fell out of the attack.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@rebel2276 left with the question of being true to the book or the history, which should they have chosen?
TigerRifle1 9 months ago
@TigerRifle1 Very good question, Jeff Shaara wrote, "Gods and Generals", "The last full measure", "Rise to Rebellion", Mexican War, American Revolution, WW2, WW1 books as well. His father Michaell Shaara wrote "Killer Angels". But, how do you make a movie based on one single book writer? Why not gather the top 25 and have them all put their experience and information into a Civil War movie? Mr. Pfanz would have the most knowledge on Gettysburg. He worked at Gettysburg back in the 50's/60's.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@TigerRifle1 Jeff Shaara lives down in Florida, he certainly can not claim to have "Years and Decades" of experience at the National Archives or Library of Congress, in Washington DC. 99% of historians and book writers do not live in Washington DC. Thus, they can not spend much time doing research on their book. My research team and I, are at both buildings everyday after work, except Sunday, when they are closed. We have sacrificed hundreds of Saturday's doing research.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@TigerRifle1 As you can read, what I type on here is the very latest information on the Civil War. None of the information we found as ever been published, there are reasons for that of course. The Government has to keep up with the cover up, they have done a outstanding job for the past 150 years. But ask yourself, when do you believe the last time the US. Government was honest with it's people? Half of Americans believe 9-11 was a cover up, Kennedy's assassination was a cover up.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@TigerRifle1 In reality, the war was not the fault of Northerners or Southerners. Lincoln was pressured by a "Higher Authority" to start the war. We have found some very interesting letters, never published (Never will be), that proved to us, who was behind the war. Lincoln himself wrote who was behind the war, but that letter will never be published, lol. I laugh because because the US. Government really thought they were going to cover up everything and fool all of us.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@wodkins It just disturbs me to see these "Hollywood" movies come out with Civil War movies that are far from truth and reality. I have been in this business for nearly Thirty years and not many historians can claim to have done research in Washington DC, at the National Archives and Library of Congress. My research team and I have found tons of things never published (And never will be). We know what caused the war and who was behind it all and Lincoln's assassination.
rebel2276 9 months ago
@wodkins With the movie, "Conspirator" coming out soon, this should be interesting on what did Hollywood and director Robert Redford find and will show. So we have a betting pool going on that they will not point out who was behind it all nor the "Highest Powers" who directed them to carry out the orders. Orders go down, not up. I will not be able to see the movie, for the war out here is much more time consuming.
If you have any questions on the battles, war, feel free to ask me.
rebel2276 9 months ago
Excellent movie, excellent book.
jorianhudson29 10 months ago
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why is it impossible to find this movie except at museaums?
Ace4929 11 months ago
It was an co-production between New Line Cinema and Turner Broadcasting (the Atlanta-owned company who purchased the company in the same year, 1993), both were merged into Time Warner (the owner of Warner Bros.) in 1996.
NYGSonline 11 months ago
fakest mustash ever
coopebt 11 months ago
@coopebt The fake mustaches are on purpose. See Turner understood that if this film was any more fantastic people may actually have believed that the Civil War was still being faught! Next thing you know, the SOuth would secede again! Therefore the obviously fake mustaches were a safety measure. :P
DarthMercanto 11 months ago
@DarthMercanto I know tht
coopebt 11 months ago
@coopebt lol :P
DarthMercanto 11 months ago
I wish someone would make the final movie in the trilogy.
Boelcke1916 11 months ago
I was thrilled when I saw Gettysburg the first time. I had not known of the 20th Maine or Chamberlain. It is a great movie and better when it can be seen on the big screen. I had to throw a dig about Boise State in there b/c I am lobbying hard for a national playoff system. I would love to see BSU play LSU or Alabama (for instance) in a playoff round just to see.
Boelcke1916 11 months ago
The 20th Maine reminds me of Boise State.
Boelcke1916 1 year ago
@Boelcke1916 Overrated? If so I agree. Why they even show them at Fredericksburg when their losses were under 30 men is strange. The 16th Maine lost over 200 men and at Gettysburg they lost practically 95% of their regiment. But nothing on them though!
Have a great weekend and Super Bowl!
rebel2276 11 months ago
Just finished watching it. Impressive set pieces but the acting and script is pretentious as hell. As for the soundtrack, it would try to convince you something profound was being said or being done but would fail miserably. Give me Glory or Cold Mountain any day. Or even the Horse Soldiers for that matter. Also didn't like the moral equivalency. Lee's army in Pennsylvania actively caught escaped slaves and free blacks and sent south to bondage. Should have showed it. They deserved to lose.
megalonia01 1 year ago
I was in this movie and Gods and Generals. We sure had fun making the two. We are on the 150 yr aniv. of the Civil War. There will be alot of big reenactments coming up in the next couple of years. I am the surgeon with the 11th P.V.I.
civilwardoc1 1 year ago
underrated as shit!
gurrlo 1 year ago
what's with the sound? It's out of synch. BTW: Gettysburg is a great movie!
ross42899 1 year ago
"More than died in all the years of vietnam"
Does that make sense to anyone else?
I think they meant; "More died than in all the years of Vietnam"
xWeMakeVidsx 1 year ago
@xWeMakeVidsx agreed
checkmate25 1 year ago
I'm fourteen, and first saw this movie at thirteen. In my opinion, it's one of the best films ever made. And I'm a Northerner, but I'd just like to say:
RALLY BEHIND THE VIRGINIANS!!!! RISE AGAIN MY CONFEDERATE BRETHREN!!!! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE TYRANNICAL AMERICAN FEDERAL GOVERMENT!!!! SIC SEMPER TYRANNNIS AND DEO VINDICE!!!
Sorry about that; Obama and the left get me angry.
DarthPraxus27 1 year ago
@DarthPraxus27 your an idiot
pljker 1 year ago
@pljker No, I just believe that the South had more legal reason to leave us than we had to leave Britain, and that they had the bravest and most honorable army in the world.
DarthPraxus27 1 year ago 2
@DarthPraxus27 bravest hardly, most honorable is still questionable, ti counts which army, you can not say "They" as in the CSA had many different armies stretching from the Mississippi to Virgina. Not all had commanders who can be praised like Lee, it could be said it's way pretty much every film focus mostly on the east coast, it is the most romantic theator of the war.
Zeoncomrade 1 year ago
@Zeoncomrade
That is correct. If I remember right, the CSA faired many times worse on the Western front but no one ever pays it much attention because Lee, Grant, Sherman and all of them were on the East Coast.
Mahbu 1 year ago
@DarthPraxus27
I disagree on all accounts. It's easy for us to repeat the same rhetoric we hear all the time but the focus is, really, only on a few events and people. Lee, Pickett's Charge (brave but foolish, I might add), Stonewall Jackson.
We often forget that there was a whole other front where, by the way, the CSA faired far worse. In fact, in the west, almost all the battles in the West favored the north, even the strategic stalemates.
Mahbu 1 year ago
@DarthPraxus27
Lee is no doubt a great commander, but to give his credit to the entirety of the Confederecy is fallacious.
Mahbu 1 year ago
It's out of sync.
XFuncCaRteR 1 year ago
@FreedomFighterReturn Yet communism seems to be just as dogmatic as religion. See what I did there?
cowlarva 1 year ago