i thought the whole idea of the US was to go into Afghanistan was to find Bin Larden a Man who is by now,most certainly dead.Now its turned into a Mission to control the entire country,show me any foreign invading military that has ever been able to control Afghanistan in the last 100yrs?The Taliban was formed in part by some of the left over Mujahideen from the war with the soviets yet is always portrayed by certain Media and Most Western countries as in invading force from Pakistan.Total Lie
The war on terror was never waged for the benefit of the US but rather for the benefit of Israel. Going to war for Israel was over the line before George Bush came along. He used deception to get the US to do what almost all US citizens would not want us to do, if it was done openly.
But that pales in comparison to what Obama is doing. Going to war for the sole benefit of islamic heroin trafficers.
Colombia fought a 40 year war with FARC, the exact same stuff was happing there that was happening in Afghanistan. A corrupt government, a corrupt army, a porous border, FARC used drug money to finance its operations and instead of hiding in the mountains, they were hiding in the jungle. Within the last 10 years FARC went from controlling 50% of Colombia to controlling less than 2%. Drug crops dropped 26%. Obviously this kind of enemy can be defeated, but it has to be by the locals.
The people of Afghanistan voted for the government of Afghanistan, which the U.S. is backing both. Could the people vote the Taliban into office? Not now. Although they may "side" with the Taliban, the Afghani support is just 27%.
Pacifism is not a bad thing, but being a bitch is. I dont think its right to allow a group to do whatever they like because people lack the nut sack to provide justice. We should give them the benefit of the doubt and give them some breathing room, if shit happens then we are justified to act.
For everybody out there who hates America, take a minute to think about the following questions: Which country in the world has offered more military aid and assistance to fight brutal regimes in the world? Which country has given more humanitarian Aid to outside countries? Which country offers more emergency aid to natural disasters outside it's borders? Americans are good people; unfortunately, sometimes we get stuck with poor leaders who make very bad decisions.
Value the valor, social status,leadership potential and potency of the unused womb!
Increased the social status for non-mothers who refuse to bear the children who are destined to become the cannon fodder and chattel of the next generation of crusades and war --- refuse to bear the children who could possibly become the victims of a nuclear holocaust.
Negative population growth stops the cycle of violence and revenge as it alleviates the tensions of resource depletion, climate change.
Oh my God, are we still talking? Is it some kind of obligatory to know who Andrew Bacevich is? How do you know I'm not involved in any war? Who said I am fascinated with one? Please don't speak to me and waste my time anymore.
Hey, I just thought your were a real tough guy w all the macho stuff. Maybe you shouldnt be putting down other people on this page if you dont want a response.
Vortex1988 <<<< u do u think its realy big mattr ? i should learn english! and im sure u know its not my lnguge!! so all i wana say is ur a stupid !!!!
if u dont win the war, u dfntly will lose it !!! and if u go for war into graveyard lolzz again lose plus shame and lost all u had :( only thing need to be safe is ass !!! y dont u do it now? coz its gona be late later :( i had a dream it was bad . told russian to read history b4 u go ,they say we sure we can do it :) poor . everyone thinks hes strong whn u face the truth totaly dfrnt :) its not a kid game its a BLOODY WAR !!!!!!!!!
IF your stupid enough to join the military or encourage your kids to , well i have no sympathy for you and yours who fight for the elite profiteer wars. soldier heroes ?? my ass, more like glorified government hitmen. theres enough money to SPIN it on TV to make the tv watching bobbleheads believe they`re heroes so sign up now while media mind control is in its prime.
Lol.U.S is now called Super power.Not alone but with european army they couldnt defeat Taliban.And the good part is these people dont have armor or air force or any air back up.Moreover they dont have the hemet to wear,like Nato army has all armed and backed up army.Now i got that new guns,army clothes and flags are nothing.but only thing is Faith
it generally takes about 10 years to put down an insurgency, Afghanistan is not the norm, reistance is in their culture and folklore, they pride them selves in it. even if we win, whats the prize?
benzo430:prize is five trillion cubic meter of gas reservs,uranium reserves and gold reserves in addition to much more in unexplored resources which was the reason soviets were willing to spend every penny unto it till they got bankrupt and dissolved that the same soviets citizens were begging in the street of prostituting themselves or their women and childern......its not in far history...its very present-day thing....they still havent recovered from poverty and that was socialism....!!.
and if socialism made people suffered that much with poverty then capitalism gonna suffer even worse.....cause it doesnt have any emotions for humens already......its ultra selfish system much more selfish than socialism so the end result of it would be much worse than soviets..!!!
. persians(ancient) .alexander(lil ancient)...arabs(mid-age),mongols(mid age),british(recent history),soviets(recent history)thought so too....they thought they are just bunch of dispersed tribes too...they could steal easily anything everything they want.......lol...but their hard luck that in all these cases pashtuns were the only problem...or they were barking at the wrong tree...otherwise you could have your way the way u want...!!!
maybe try next door?...iran?...ooops....i heard they have got some good immunitions already.....so leave it.... okay...next?....pakistan?...oopsy doopsy...even though their are plenty of CIA agents in government ranks(from president to lower ones)...there still are some independent thinkers ....till they are "removed"..next?..maybe north korea?..ooops...dont even think about it...first they dont have "natural money"...plus..they could make capitalist-west a real mess...lol..........!
lol these americans dont get it, they not going to win the war and putting there soldiers there just to be killed and die, sad really fell sorry for the soldiers families
Thanks for this video. We hear so little about Afghanistan in the media...and it is so important. The US isn't in a position to escalate this war; we don't have the troops or the money and many people would die unnecessarily.
Good video But I disagree that more troops in Afghanistan would not help.The TALIBAN is mostly talk and they know they are not as strong as they portray.The military goals have to be defined and once completed the miltary can redraw HONOURABLY.
Al Qaeda only wishes they could do to the USA what the bankers have done. 9-11 was small potatoes to the bankers war on America. Bring all American troops home.
actually vicodine (hydrocodine) and oxy are both synthetic opiates, produced either here, canada or in europe. Codine is based on non-synthetic opiate (from real opium sources) but we manufacture that legally here. where do you think all the hospitals get all that morphine? we also re-refine high grade pure heroin seized by the coast guard etc.
but afganistan needs to be controlled better we cant let torrorist take control of that country that was the main country all along, well torrorist that are capable of doing harm to the U.S. but military is only part of the way to go in there and calm the situtation we also sad to say but invest money in there youth to educate and rebuild there lives if not we well see the future bin ladin in one of them.
Once again, Ron Paul was right and we have another Bozo in the White House who is going to waste more lives and money on a war that will do nothing for us.
Kill Osama, and get OUT!!! Let the sand people kill themselves off!!! Like we ALL know they will. We tried to give them peace, but the war mongers there will have nothing to do with that. Screw them!!! Kill the head and leave the body to wriggle in the sand!!!
There's a reason for that as well, Americans assisted the Mujahideen during that long and painful struggle in an attempt to do to the Soviets what they had done to us. We turned Afghanistan into a Vietnam for them, providing weaponry, financial aid, even aiding them with the use of spy satellites. Every time I see people brag that Afghanistan hasn't been conquered since Alexander the Great, it very well could have between 1979-1989 had we not stepped in. We even gave them stinger missiles.
On a side note, the United States was not the only country who assisted the Mujahideen. Pakistan, the U.K., Egypt, China, and Iran even got their hands dirty in the support of the Mujahideen. Not only that, but many muslims from neighboring countries (Such as Osama Bin Laden for example) had rallied to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan.
Join the human race? lol Maybe Americans should start treating us like Humans first. Obama ,Bush they're all the same. Afghanistan situation is gonna get worse, and you war will spread into Pakistan too. For every 1 terrorist you guys kill, 10 innocent people will die who will give birth to another 20 "terrorists" You will kill more and they will multiply in numbers. Make sure you guys kill everyone to make it easy cuz after all its oil in Iran you want. Dont kid yourseld for a second. Wake up
well spoken i hate being an american none of the people representing me are doing anything good for anyone...i wish some country would invade the u.s.a and kill all of us...
No one wins wars in Afghanistan (Khurasan). I hope outside governments do rethink what their doing and look into providing just security for the current Afghan government and that's it. The rest can be taken care of. To sum it up, help our government be secure and stable, assist in building schools and hospitals, assist in building power plants and water reservoirs. The rest can be handled by our people. The U.S. gov just has to trust the Afghans in power for now and stop being scared.
wars are profitable, 800 overseas military bases, more going into central asia and africa as i write this, wars on two fronts, first promoted during the reagan administration where the neocons got their post vietnam syndrome start, their political ideological launching pad, as it were. back in those darm times, the usa had over fifty, yes over fifty covert wars funded, using so called "proxy forces" from asia, africa, the middle east and latin america. so what is new?
We could use more troops to hold fort. But we really need is things we have here in the U.S. power, water, schools, hospitals and jobs. Here's the thing, 80% of Afghanistan is on our side, we need to take advantage of that and build an infrastructure. When the Soviets went in, only 20% of the Afghans were on the Soviets side. 20% of Afghans are the ones that are the problem but set that aside and help the 80%. When the 20% sees the changes, they will put their weapons down.
We need to help Barack Obama exercise the wisdom to reconsider escalating our military in Afghanistan. Cheney's war in Afghanistan has strengthened the cause of the Taliban, who have taken control and are currently destroying villages, schools, hospitals and people there. Our wars over the years have never solved anything: they've ruined our economy, killed millions of people and maimed millions of others, escalated terrorism around the world, and on..and on..and on... When will we ever learn?
I am very sorry to inform you that CURRENTLY taliban are not destroying schools,villages,hospitals and people in Afghanistan. As a result of your 'war on terrorism' CURRENTLY people are joining with Taliban so that they can protect their schools,hospitals and villagers from cruel INVADERS. I mean no offence to you in person but if you guys were not ignorant maybe American government wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON'
waqasjeha...I meant to say that the Taliban have taken control of southern Pakistan. That's not ignorance - as you say - that's the nightly news. Maybe you should watch it rather than believing Dick Cheney and his sidekick "W" were really compassionate conservatives, afterall. Wake up man! Killing millions of children in Vietnam, in Cambodia and Laos, in Iraq and Afghanistan, Palestine... What has all our UNPROVOKED mass murder achieved? Answer that. C'mon, are you blind? Join the human race!
Lol you didnt mention Pakistan at all. How was I to know ? The video is about Afghanistan. And your forces are currently only in Afghanistan not Southern Pakistan. So you guys cant really play a major role there yet until you decide to invade as usual. I know exactly whats happening in borderline regions in Pakistan. I was was raised there so I kinda dont have to watch your media to know the truth.
waq..Sorry, I think you may be preaching to the choir. I have never supported America's aggression. Rather, I've published several newpaper and magazine articles against America's shamefully cavalier response to the deaths their bombings have caused among civilian populations. Maybe you should watch the YouTube video I made with my brother: "War Itself Is the Enemy". We're busy making other antiwar videos, so I better run for now. Good luck to you.
"if you guys were not ignorant maybe American government wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON'"
No reason? What about 9/11? The Taliban were harboring the al qaeda, who orchestrated 9/11.
You may have a point regarding Iraq, but NOT Afghanistan.
The Taliban and Al Qaeda are xenophobic cultists that want to keep the Afghans under control and living in the stone ages. Damned right they also destroy schools.
"You may have a point regarding Iraq" I havent said a thing about Iraq so what are you talking about? See why I think most of you are ignorant. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are xenophobic cultists just like your nutcases in the White House. The difference is I have the balls to admit that my people are bad but you dont because you believe their lies. AL Qaeda's people significantly increaed in number after the invasion. The whole 9/11 thing was orchestrated by arabs right in america and middle east
No, you did NOT say Iraq. You said: "..wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON""
"a" "country".
So I extrapolated by thinking that you might be right "if" you were talking about Iraq (which admittedly you were not), but you are not right (in my opinion) about Afghanistan.
Do I have to spell everything out? Take out all the pronouns so you can follow me? Geez!
It was more a general statement! But you assumed that I was talking about Iraq. Anyway I wasnt clear enough you you made a mistake. Sounds fair to me. Other than that you didnt really have anything to say other than 'you are not right' lol And yes I already know what you're opinion is. Just explain it... I think that's what we're doing here.
By saying you are wrong without having to explain means you are arrogant.
You can click on my profile and find out how old I am! Way younger than you but I'm glad my brain can make decisions for itself and tell right from wrong. You're 48 and you're victim of a government's brain washing scheme lol Thanks for the personal attack though. People normally do that when they dont have anything real to say. I will not reply to you anymore. Just keep in mind that Al Qaeda and Taliban are two different people who came close after 9/11.
I make decisions for myself. Just because I may disagree with portions of your rant, does not mean I'm brain-washed. You call me arrogant, but your arrogance and prejudice is plain to see. But lets not continue this pointless tit for tat. Otherwise we'll just be talking semantics rather than debating with reason.
Everyone should remember that we did recruit, fund, and arm Al-Qaeda against the Soviets. But that being said we should rethink our strategy in Afghanistan. More military will probably just mean more terrorists. We need to let the Afghan government take care of it because to them, the problem is foreigners (us). We should not be supporting rebel groups/ factions/ warlords, otherwise it'll just start a civil, something we're supposedly trying to avoid in Iraq. Irony!
People don't start wars leaders do. And how long will we fall for USS Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania bullshit? Yeah people resist our corporate rape and pillaging of their lands, and they do hate us. Our countrymen are just so fucking brainwashed and complacent we don't know what the fuck is going on.
why doesnt the us stop supporting pakistan? they finance the militants, any way these taliban militants never attacked any body outside afghanistan, it was al kaida, the taliban today are okay with exiling al kaida if foreing forces pull out, why isnt obam looking at these choices??
only reason the russians had so much trouble was due to the US arming the Taliban. do you honestly think they would have held out so well with out that help?
only one think i dont agree with obama ,, is that he thinks he can win the afghan war by more forces... study of history has shown that use of force in afghanistan has never succeeded in bringing the resistance down... you need to rethink ur strategies and stop supporting pakistan who is the real machine producing terrorists..
Obama i hope realizes that the war in Afghanistan needs to be won with the use of good intelligence and special forces and not an actual army. Find out where Osama is, kill him, and pull out. You can't win against Alquida was a whole since they are in over 100 different countries now. Make our point, not to fuck with us, then stop.
though i agree that we won't win due to Afghanistan being halfway around the world, but don't ever wish Americans dead. wish the people who sent them there dead.
Wars don't solve shit! All wars equate to loses on both sides. Bombs, missiles and bullets don't kill people. Humans are the only ones that KILL. If mankind don't get their shit together, this world is toast anyway. Mankind is destroying this planet both inside out.... over what?
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The new boss sounds like the old boss. Hey Obama, what happened to the CHANGE we were promised. What happened to ending the war and not expanding it. What happened to getting rid of torture and rendition? What happened to not letting the International Bankers continue robbing all of us blind. What happened to appointing cabinet members who were not mostly from the Bush and Clinton Administrations. Obama is a lowlife liar!
First of all, he has always said that he would put more troops in Afghanistan, he is just pulling them out of Iraq. Second, he closed Guantanamo and has said "The US will not Torture." Thirdly He is working on the International bankers and about the cabinet members, the ones in the Clinton administration brought us a Surplus and the 90s were great.
The man has been in office for only TWO WEEKS!!!! Give him a break!!!!
First off, he said he was going to end the war and now he's expanding it, please refrain from sounding like an Obama cult member who now agrees with the Bush policy because it is now coming from Obama. He said he'd end the war. 2nd, he said they will try to close Guantanamo by next year, the same thing Bush said and never did, it's simply rhetoric.
Bush used the same exact words as Obama "The US will not torture, and they continue to do so. Furthermore, Obama has approved to continue rendition and harsh interrogation techniques (torture). Also, Obama has approved 10 new secret prisons in the US. ABC News even reported on it.
As far as Clinton goes, he was responsible for setting up the International Banksters with the ability to issue virtually endless credit without any equity which has created this economic crisis. Furthermore, you Obama cultist are in denial. Obama's entire cabinet is mostly made up of Bush and Clinton people. How in the world do u people see that as change.
In the future try getting your info from some place other than your Messiah's web page which is filled with "feel good" empty rhetoric. Or simply admit that you are okay with Bush policy and want to keep on with it.
I thought the Bush retards were bad but it looks like the Obama cult members are going to make the Bushies look great.
If you can't beat them, join them. Obviously the retards that you're trying to help aren't going to accept it. So you might as well manipulate them just as these fine folk do so well.
For your information, Obama is not my Messiah and I surely don't like being called a sheep. You are being unreasonable and naive. You are looking at this in a glass box and are at a 10 when you need to be at a 2. Just because I don't get my sources from Fox News doesn't make me a sheep. Stop Drinking the Conservative Kool-Aid and speak like you have some sense.
It sucks to try to inform the masses as to the reality of the left/right paradigm you're either preaching to the choir or shouting into a hurricane. with the latter being the norm. They- ( the sheep) fox believers, are so badly brainwashed that it would take a team of CIA debriefers to change their thinking. pity them and move on; and know that there are many of us who share your opinion. peace in
And as far as Obama's cabinet being made of Bush and Clinton people, well what did you want him to do, put him some brand new folks that have never been tested or have no experience in the government to put in policy? And most of his White House Senior Staff actually never worked for either Administration, actually.
What he is doing is including a few harsher interrogation techniques and making them legal and not veiwed as torture. I don't think that Obama will add waterboarding to the army field manual. The problem with Bush is that he used torture and harsh techniques ILLEGALLY... As far as the 10 new secret prisons, well where else are the supposed terrorist supposed to go, the County Jail???? Please...
He said that he would end the war in Iraq and get rid of the terrorist in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is what he said... Also, he signed contracts and documents that says that Guantanamo will be closed within a year and guess what, in a year Guantanamo will be shut down. But never said he would close Guantanamo, at least from what I have seen.
I'm so sick of this crap. You Leftist all encouraged Obama to make the following argument: "George Bush had us bogged down in Iraq, when we should have been focusing on Afghanistan, I as President will redeploy our troops from Iraq to Afghanistan where we should be."
You all sat there and let him pull this crap.....now you can eat it.
I will have to agree with your comment. I mean people on the left these days are just as slow bus as the ones on the right. Obama said repeatedly that he will put troops in Afghanistan and people on the Left are like "Hell Yeah." Brave New Films endorsed that policy during the elections. Now all of a sudden they make videos against more troops in Iraq? It's mind boggling...
There was never a discussion before about whether we should escalate the war in Afghanistan. It was merely assumed that Afghanistan represented the right war to fight and Iraq the wrong one. That is why we're calling for Congressional oversight hearings regarding this war, and why we're holding debates on the issues surrounding it.
A little bit of history. Afghanistan never fell to the Soviet Union for one reason and one reason only - Osama Bin Laden. Trained, armed and supplied by The United States of America.
We could use more troops to hold fort. But we really need is things we have here in the U.S. power, water, schools, hospitals and jobs. Here's the thing, 80% of Afghanistan is on our side, we need to take advantage of that and build an infrastructure. When the Soviets went in, only 20% of the Afghans were on the Soviets side. 20% of Afghans are the ones that are the problem but set that aside and help the 80%. When the 20% sees the changes, they will put their weapons down.
Under Bush, anyone who called for more focus on rebuilding was derided as a 'liberal' , therefore ensuring that the war could never be won. Hopefully, Obama will understand that military action is only part of the picture.
The only way to pacify Afghanistan would b e either to legalize opium or to somehow destroy all opium profits and convince the citizens we are doing them a favor.
If you want to end the war in Afghanistan you will need to kill most of the Afghans. They don't have sport, they have war. Of course to actually win, I can't see how any alternative exists to cleaning out Pakistan as well. Pakistan was founded by murderous muslim fanatics, is nuclear armed, hated by its neighbors, and is a failed state by any objective measure of internal unity. The region will not be at peace until Pakistan is pacified.
It is an incredibly ugly thing to suggest I agree, but historically the only people to ever conquer and control the region were the mongols and guess what they did ?
With all due respect. Why are you advertising a site before it's ready?
Also, you should check this article out: "Graveyard of analogies"
Afghanistan needs its infrastructure rebuilt (roads, schools, sanitation, power etc etc) and thus the quality of life improved for the people. THAT is how you win hearts and minds...
We have the ability to effect change at the highest level here. The Obama administration has already shown a willingness to listen to its constituents, which is why we must call for oversight hearings and make our voices heard now.
primalminds, most of the clips appear to be from December 2008/January 2009 (the Kerry and Clinton clips are from her SecState confirmation hearing I believe) , but this does seem to be a bit more ramshackle and rushed than most BNF videos. And as for leaving out ISAF entirely--I don't get it.
There is a reasonable case for disengaging from Afghanistan, but this video unfortunately doesn't really make it...
We live in the Fascist States of Corporations. We lost our democracy in 1972 when the dollar went off the Gold Standard and the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank took over the strings of the Federal Government. We have a Fascist country that wants to nationalize Banks and Automotive Companies.
its like why can't we stop fighting. why can't they stop fighting. its pathetic. im 29 and i will not allow myself to get into a physical confrontation ,. i stoped that my senior year of high school. u feel me.
I think we have to try to determine whether tricking the U.S. into attacking Afghanistan was the whole point of attacking the World Trade Center in the first place.
In other words, the U.S. shouldn't just react blindly and dumbly. We should make intelligent choices.
"99% of all the battles that we fought in Afghanistan were WON by the Soviet side . . . but the problem is that, the next morning, you have the same old situation as if there was no battle. Mujahideen were again in that village where we thought we had destroyed them just the other day, so it was a absolutely useless . . . war."
Forget about Afghanistan, we can't afford it anymore. Bring the troops and backwater home, put them to work building something or back in school. Sure Black water personnel won't be paid as much, but that saves money too. Cut the debt!
I was just having a discussion about this last night. It is a mistake. History has proven that military campaigns in Afghanistan will fail. We will dump billions of dollars, and have more death to American soldiers and civilians, and when we leave, everything will return to what is was before we arrived, but with greater sympathy towards rebels and terrorists from the locals. Why do we keep repeating our mistakes??
I learned that we'll be in Afganistan a long time...way longer then the soviets were...unless we use nukes which isn't an option.. lol.. and there will be a draft even if we don't go into battle with Iran because we can't sustain our war with just a voluteer army. And of course there's the Iran problem. The American people are screwed either way. The average highchool and college graduates are gonna get drafted. I see.......
The middle east conflict is a war of ideas. Their idea is islam, ours is christian/secular. Bullets will not solve anything unless one side kills off completely the other.
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EtsukoKaleyxy853 3 weeks ago
Does anyone think that the world would be better if Al Gore was elected for two terms instead of Bush? I don't know...
KillerCracker69 1 year ago
i thought the whole idea of the US was to go into Afghanistan was to find Bin Larden a Man who is by now,most certainly dead.Now its turned into a Mission to control the entire country,show me any foreign invading military that has ever been able to control Afghanistan in the last 100yrs?The Taliban was formed in part by some of the left over Mujahideen from the war with the soviets yet is always portrayed by certain Media and Most Western countries as in invading force from Pakistan.Total Lie
ccc771 1 year ago
Let's say it how it is, openly.
The war on terror was never waged for the benefit of the US but rather for the benefit of Israel. Going to war for Israel was over the line before George Bush came along. He used deception to get the US to do what almost all US citizens would not want us to do, if it was done openly.
But that pales in comparison to what Obama is doing. Going to war for the sole benefit of islamic heroin trafficers.
We need to put a stop to this.
Bonecrkr 2 years ago
Colombia fought a 40 year war with FARC, the exact same stuff was happing there that was happening in Afghanistan. A corrupt government, a corrupt army, a porous border, FARC used drug money to finance its operations and instead of hiding in the mountains, they were hiding in the jungle. Within the last 10 years FARC went from controlling 50% of Colombia to controlling less than 2%. Drug crops dropped 26%. Obviously this kind of enemy can be defeated, but it has to be by the locals.
orlock20 2 years ago
The difference is that, in Columbia, the US was on the side AGAINST the FARC. In Afghanistan, the US is on the side of the equivalent of the FARC.
Also, I can't help but notice that heroin, obviously from Afghanistan, recently showed up in France, laced with anthrax.
That's the type of people the US is supporting.
Bonecrkr 2 years ago
The people of Afghanistan voted for the government of Afghanistan, which the U.S. is backing both. Could the people vote the Taliban into office? Not now. Although they may "side" with the Taliban, the Afghani support is just 27%.
orlock20 2 years ago
Pacifism is not a bad thing, but being a bitch is. I dont think its right to allow a group to do whatever they like because people lack the nut sack to provide justice. We should give them the benefit of the doubt and give them some breathing room, if shit happens then we are justified to act.
54nube 2 years ago
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For everybody out there who hates America, take a minute to think about the following questions: Which country in the world has offered more military aid and assistance to fight brutal regimes in the world? Which country has given more humanitarian Aid to outside countries? Which country offers more emergency aid to natural disasters outside it's borders? Americans are good people; unfortunately, sometimes we get stuck with poor leaders who make very bad decisions.
fooschnikens 2 years ago
Value the valor, social status,leadership potential and potency of the unused womb!
Increased the social status for non-mothers who refuse to bear the children who are destined to become the cannon fodder and chattel of the next generation of crusades and war --- refuse to bear the children who could possibly become the victims of a nuclear holocaust.
Negative population growth stops the cycle of violence and revenge as it alleviates the tensions of resource depletion, climate change.
Lesliehlevy 2 years ago
Americans should spend 15 billion dollars a month for more years than any war we Americans waged.
Americans should keep spending and dying with no end in sight and no obtainable goals.
The icing on the cake is that your are not even a American citizen!
You no nothing of what it is like to be a American citizen and you have the audacity to equate pacifism with cowardice.
A pacifist doesn't hide in the shadows and get other people to do his dirty work, but a coward does.
PEPPYY22 2 years ago
Faint-hearted bullshit propaganda. This is exactly what the Taliban count on. I do agree the tactics are wrong however.
vgotnofingers 2 years ago
Do you know who Andrew Bacevich is?
Tough talk is easy, reality can be very hard to take.
You should read his book.
PEPPYY22 2 years ago
I don't know. Never heard of. Are YOU Andrew Bacevitch? Should I buy your book?
vgotnofingers 2 years ago
Ignorance is nothing to be proud of.
War is easy to find.
Why not get involved in one if war fascinates you so much?
You could then speak from some experience instead of wasting your time here.
PEPPYY22 2 years ago
Oh my God, are we still talking? Is it some kind of obligatory to know who Andrew Bacevich is? How do you know I'm not involved in any war? Who said I am fascinated with one? Please don't speak to me and waste my time anymore.
vgotnofingers 2 years ago
Hey, I just thought your were a real tough guy w all the macho stuff. Maybe you shouldnt be putting down other people on this page if you dont want a response.
PEPPYY22 2 years ago
Wow and this is written by someone who wanted to talk me into reading some pacifist wanker's book.
vgotnofingers 2 years ago
Vortex1988 <<<< u do u think its realy big mattr ? i should learn english! and im sure u know its not my lnguge!! so all i wana say is ur a stupid !!!!
fsiasbhaa 2 years ago
if u dont win the war, u dfntly will lose it !!! and if u go for war into graveyard lolzz again lose plus shame and lost all u had :( only thing need to be safe is ass !!! y dont u do it now? coz its gona be late later :( i had a dream it was bad . told russian to read history b4 u go ,they say we sure we can do it :) poor . everyone thinks hes strong whn u face the truth totaly dfrnt :) its not a kid game its a BLOODY WAR !!!!!!!!!
fsiasbhaa 2 years ago
Learn to speak English.
Vortex1988 2 years ago
i guess anglos are coming back to their senses....their insanity is fading.....afterall they understood the language of stick finally...!!
leotakesleo 2 years ago
IF your stupid enough to join the military or encourage your kids to , well i have no sympathy for you and yours who fight for the elite profiteer wars. soldier heroes ?? my ass, more like glorified government hitmen. theres enough money to SPIN it on TV to make the tv watching bobbleheads believe they`re heroes so sign up now while media mind control is in its prime.
Iseeyoursoul 2 years ago
learn from history nd dont put u finger in afghanistan cuz it will just be cut off
iqbalkhaleqi 2 years ago 3
As General Giap said in Vietnam ! we dont have to win, we just have to not lose!
Allllaaaaaaaaaaaaahh!
223fox 2 years ago 2
Lol.U.S is now called Super power.Not alone but with european army they couldnt defeat Taliban.And the good part is these people dont have armor or air force or any air back up.Moreover they dont have the hemet to wear,like Nato army has all armed and backed up army.Now i got that new guns,army clothes and flags are nothing.but only thing is Faith
jokers697 2 years ago 4
America really has never been good hearts and mind soldiering. Leave that to the brits aussies and just stick to blowing shit up
moakley 2 years ago
it generally takes about 10 years to put down an insurgency, Afghanistan is not the norm, reistance is in their culture and folklore, they pride them selves in it. even if we win, whats the prize?
benzo430 2 years ago
benzo430:prize is five trillion cubic meter of gas reservs,uranium reserves and gold reserves in addition to much more in unexplored resources which was the reason soviets were willing to spend every penny unto it till they got bankrupt and dissolved that the same soviets citizens were begging in the street of prostituting themselves or their women and childern......its not in far history...its very present-day thing....they still havent recovered from poverty and that was socialism....!!.
leotakesleo 2 years ago
and if socialism made people suffered that much with poverty then capitalism gonna suffer even worse.....cause it doesnt have any emotions for humens already......its ultra selfish system much more selfish than socialism so the end result of it would be much worse than soviets..!!!
leotakesleo 2 years ago
good points, we'll robb them of their natural resouces like the good capitalist we are
benzo430 2 years ago
true......but there is only ONE problem..
pashtuns!!..:)
. persians(ancient) .alexander(lil ancient)...arabs(mid-age),mongols(mid age),british(recent history),soviets(recent history)thought so too....they thought they are just bunch of dispersed tribes too...they could steal easily anything everything they want.......lol...but their hard luck that in all these cases pashtuns were the only problem...or they were barking at the wrong tree...otherwise you could have your way the way u want...!!!
leotakesleo 2 years ago
maybe try next door?...iran?...ooops....i heard they have got some good immunitions already.....so leave it.... okay...next?....pakistan?...oopsy doopsy...even though their are plenty of CIA agents in government ranks(from president to lower ones)...there still are some independent thinkers ....till they are "removed"..next?..maybe north korea?..ooops...dont even think about it...first they dont have "natural money"...plus..they could make capitalist-west a real mess...lol..........!
leotakesleo 2 years ago
so then the U.S. people faired worse then the Russian people? I think real life already proved you wrong.
ChristianHalovids 2 years ago
lol these americans dont get it, they not going to win the war and putting there soldiers there just to be killed and die, sad really fell sorry for the soldiers families
cactus4ever 2 years ago
Obama will escalate this war and I knew this was going to happen the day he picked his cabinet.
elfil76 2 years ago
Thanks for this video. We hear so little about Afghanistan in the media...and it is so important. The US isn't in a position to escalate this war; we don't have the troops or the money and many people would die unnecessarily.
SongBirdElise 3 years ago
Yup! Containment not escalation. We can learn from the mistakes of predecessors: the soviets. Security without escalation.
CesarsLastFast 3 years ago
I think Iran and Pakistan could help us establish a secure democratic system in Afghanistan.
TimmyHaag 3 years ago
Get our troops home now. Not interested in spending money to guard the opium fields.
kmhutter 3 years ago 4
why does this keep showing up in my subscription updates when i've seen this video already.
InKa4484 3 years ago
Ralph Nader for president!
WKaliber1 3 years ago
Good video But I disagree that more troops in Afghanistan would not help.The TALIBAN is mostly talk and they know they are not as strong as they portray.The military goals have to be defined and once completed the miltary can redraw HONOURABLY.
razzer321 3 years ago
great video. let's get the hell out of there god damn.
itscrunk22 3 years ago 3
scary stuff
violetsareblue14 3 years ago
Al Qaeda only wishes they could do to the USA what the bankers have done. 9-11 was small potatoes to the bankers war on America. Bring all American troops home.
hljmesa 3 years ago 5
why is 90% of the world's heroin still coming out of Afghanistan?
After 7 years... hmmmmmmm.
Use your brains, people.
2rate1 3 years ago 5
The US drug companies profit from the opium used for vicodine, codine, oxycotins etc...
morelltechyahoocom 3 years ago
Most huge companies benefit from the war.
punkCDsampler 3 years ago 3
actually vicodine (hydrocodine) and oxy are both synthetic opiates, produced either here, canada or in europe. Codine is based on non-synthetic opiate (from real opium sources) but we manufacture that legally here. where do you think all the hospitals get all that morphine? we also re-refine high grade pure heroin seized by the coast guard etc.
nappythrill22 3 years ago
I never agreed with going to war with Iraq
but afganistan needs to be controlled better we cant let torrorist take control of that country that was the main country all along, well torrorist that are capable of doing harm to the U.S. but military is only part of the way to go in there and calm the situtation we also sad to say but invest money in there youth to educate and rebuild there lives if not we well see the future bin ladin in one of them.
Guzmanboys 3 years ago
What I was saying that if you assumed Iraq as an example because the of the terminology I used then I'm at fault! Try to understand. Seriously wtff.
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago
WLCM 2 Afghanistan
the land of the brave
very reasy 2 conquer it impossible 2 hold on 2 it
and ur wlcm 2 Afghanistan
with guns ur the enemy u well be sent back in body bags .
with out the guns ur guest so enjoy ur stay
now which one u chose lolz ahhaha
AYEMAQ 3 years ago
2 ideas.
1. GIve it to UN to worry about
2. Nuke the whole nation to nothingness. Sounds harsh but wipe it clean they are a lost cause and move on with our lives.
Adv2k169 3 years ago
Once again, Ron Paul was right and we have another Bozo in the White House who is going to waste more lives and money on a war that will do nothing for us.
cubano61 3 years ago 2
Kill Osama, and get OUT!!! Let the sand people kill themselves off!!! Like we ALL know they will. We tried to give them peace, but the war mongers there will have nothing to do with that. Screw them!!! Kill the head and leave the body to wriggle in the sand!!!
foryoutohear 3 years ago
Half A million soviet soldiers and they couldn't win =[
threeyefreak 3 years ago
There's a reason for that as well, Americans assisted the Mujahideen during that long and painful struggle in an attempt to do to the Soviets what they had done to us. We turned Afghanistan into a Vietnam for them, providing weaponry, financial aid, even aiding them with the use of spy satellites. Every time I see people brag that Afghanistan hasn't been conquered since Alexander the Great, it very well could have between 1979-1989 had we not stepped in. We even gave them stinger missiles.
LonegunmanSWC 3 years ago
On a side note, the United States was not the only country who assisted the Mujahideen. Pakistan, the U.K., Egypt, China, and Iran even got their hands dirty in the support of the Mujahideen. Not only that, but many muslims from neighboring countries (Such as Osama Bin Laden for example) had rallied to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan.
LonegunmanSWC 3 years ago
Join the human race? lol Maybe Americans should start treating us like Humans first. Obama ,Bush they're all the same. Afghanistan situation is gonna get worse, and you war will spread into Pakistan too. For every 1 terrorist you guys kill, 10 innocent people will die who will give birth to another 20 "terrorists" You will kill more and they will multiply in numbers. Make sure you guys kill everyone to make it easy cuz after all its oil in Iran you want. Dont kid yourseld for a second. Wake up
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago 3
well spoken i hate being an american none of the people representing me are doing anything good for anyone...i wish some country would invade the u.s.a and kill all of us...
orkasteez 3 years ago
i agreed with your first thought, but it was completely wasted with your second one.
femmeaflame 3 years ago
get the news out to our congressmen now, to everyone you know, now!
gbittner 3 years ago
No one wins wars in Afghanistan (Khurasan). I hope outside governments do rethink what their doing and look into providing just security for the current Afghan government and that's it. The rest can be taken care of. To sum it up, help our government be secure and stable, assist in building schools and hospitals, assist in building power plants and water reservoirs. The rest can be handled by our people. The U.S. gov just has to trust the Afghans in power for now and stop being scared.
AfghanStrong 3 years ago
wars are profitable, 800 overseas military bases, more going into central asia and africa as i write this, wars on two fronts, first promoted during the reagan administration where the neocons got their post vietnam syndrome start, their political ideological launching pad, as it were. back in those darm times, the usa had over fifty, yes over fifty covert wars funded, using so called "proxy forces" from asia, africa, the middle east and latin america. so what is new?
newsfrombelow 3 years ago
We could use more troops to hold fort. But we really need is things we have here in the U.S. power, water, schools, hospitals and jobs. Here's the thing, 80% of Afghanistan is on our side, we need to take advantage of that and build an infrastructure. When the Soviets went in, only 20% of the Afghans were on the Soviets side. 20% of Afghans are the ones that are the problem but set that aside and help the 80%. When the 20% sees the changes, they will put their weapons down.
AfghanStrong 3 years ago
We need to help Barack Obama exercise the wisdom to reconsider escalating our military in Afghanistan. Cheney's war in Afghanistan has strengthened the cause of the Taliban, who have taken control and are currently destroying villages, schools, hospitals and people there. Our wars over the years have never solved anything: they've ruined our economy, killed millions of people and maimed millions of others, escalated terrorism around the world, and on..and on..and on... When will we ever learn?
flagsandstaff 3 years ago
I am very sorry to inform you that CURRENTLY taliban are not destroying schools,villages,hospitals and people in Afghanistan. As a result of your 'war on terrorism' CURRENTLY people are joining with Taliban so that they can protect their schools,hospitals and villagers from cruel INVADERS. I mean no offence to you in person but if you guys were not ignorant maybe American government wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON'
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago 2
waqasjeha...I meant to say that the Taliban have taken control of southern Pakistan. That's not ignorance - as you say - that's the nightly news. Maybe you should watch it rather than believing Dick Cheney and his sidekick "W" were really compassionate conservatives, afterall. Wake up man! Killing millions of children in Vietnam, in Cambodia and Laos, in Iraq and Afghanistan, Palestine... What has all our UNPROVOKED mass murder achieved? Answer that. C'mon, are you blind? Join the human race!
jonestimothy15 3 years ago
Lol you didnt mention Pakistan at all. How was I to know ? The video is about Afghanistan. And your forces are currently only in Afghanistan not Southern Pakistan. So you guys cant really play a major role there yet until you decide to invade as usual. I know exactly whats happening in borderline regions in Pakistan. I was was raised there so I kinda dont have to watch your media to know the truth.
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago
waq..Sorry, I think you may be preaching to the choir. I have never supported America's aggression. Rather, I've published several newpaper and magazine articles against America's shamefully cavalier response to the deaths their bombings have caused among civilian populations. Maybe you should watch the YouTube video I made with my brother: "War Itself Is the Enemy". We're busy making other antiwar videos, so I better run for now. Good luck to you.
jonestimothy15 3 years ago
"if you guys were not ignorant maybe American government wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON'"
No reason? What about 9/11? The Taliban were harboring the al qaeda, who orchestrated 9/11.
You may have a point regarding Iraq, but NOT Afghanistan.
The Taliban and Al Qaeda are xenophobic cultists that want to keep the Afghans under control and living in the stone ages. Damned right they also destroy schools.
Should the strategy be rethought? Absolutely!
Should be up and leave? No way!
Bobboland1 3 years ago
"You may have a point regarding Iraq" I havent said a thing about Iraq so what are you talking about? See why I think most of you are ignorant. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are xenophobic cultists just like your nutcases in the White House. The difference is I have the balls to admit that my people are bad but you dont because you believe their lies. AL Qaeda's people significantly increaed in number after the invasion. The whole 9/11 thing was orchestrated by arabs right in america and middle east
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago
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Bobboland1 3 years ago
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Use your brain!!!!!
No, you did NOT say Iraq. You said: "..wouldnt dare invade a country for 'NO REASON""
"a" "country".
So I extrapolated by thinking that you might be right "if" you were talking about Iraq (which admittedly you were not), but you are not right (in my opinion) about Afghanistan.
Do I have to spell everything out? Take out all the pronouns so you can follow me? Geez!
Most arguments on Youtube are over semantics.
Bobboland1 3 years ago
It was more a general statement! But you assumed that I was talking about Iraq. Anyway I wasnt clear enough you you made a mistake. Sounds fair to me. Other than that you didnt really have anything to say other than 'you are not right' lol And yes I already know what you're opinion is. Just explain it... I think that's what we're doing here.
By saying you are wrong without having to explain means you are arrogant.
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago
I did not assume you were talking about Iraq. I gave that as an example.
How old are you? Twelve?
Bobboland1 3 years ago
You can click on my profile and find out how old I am! Way younger than you but I'm glad my brain can make decisions for itself and tell right from wrong. You're 48 and you're victim of a government's brain washing scheme lol Thanks for the personal attack though. People normally do that when they dont have anything real to say. I will not reply to you anymore. Just keep in mind that Al Qaeda and Taliban are two different people who came close after 9/11.
waqasjehanxeb 3 years ago
I make decisions for myself. Just because I may disagree with portions of your rant, does not mean I'm brain-washed. You call me arrogant, but your arrogance and prejudice is plain to see. But lets not continue this pointless tit for tat. Otherwise we'll just be talking semantics rather than debating with reason.
Bobboland1 3 years ago
Everyone should remember that we did recruit, fund, and arm Al-Qaeda against the Soviets. But that being said we should rethink our strategy in Afghanistan. More military will probably just mean more terrorists. We need to let the Afghan government take care of it because to them, the problem is foreigners (us). We should not be supporting rebel groups/ factions/ warlords, otherwise it'll just start a civil, something we're supposedly trying to avoid in Iraq. Irony!
liike28 3 years ago
is the US destroying poppy or protecting poppy in Afghanistan? ..or is there an oil pipeline there or what? why is the US there?
romulas2stimulas 3 years ago
People don't start wars leaders do. And how long will we fall for USS Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania bullshit? Yeah people resist our corporate rape and pillaging of their lands, and they do hate us. Our countrymen are just so fucking brainwashed and complacent we don't know what the fuck is going on.
buckfush12 3 years ago 2
Falsehood is bound to perish
1GangRelated 3 years ago
Afghanistan.....
Where Empires Go To Die.
roberteckerson 3 years ago 4
very astute and sad
godbluffvdgg 3 years ago
why doesnt the us stop supporting pakistan? they finance the militants, any way these taliban militants never attacked any body outside afghanistan, it was al kaida, the taliban today are okay with exiling al kaida if foreing forces pull out, why isnt obam looking at these choices??
riseofthepashtuns 3 years ago
do you really thing obama makes any decisions? he doesn't. He has zero control Our entire system has been usurped. prepare for chaos
godbluffvdgg 3 years ago
only reason the russians had so much trouble was due to the US arming the Taliban. do you honestly think they would have held out so well with out that help?
kenshuei 3 years ago
get out!
plasticrev24 3 years ago
Amen to that.
malkav1 3 years ago
Those who think violence is the means to and end, are delusional to the FACT that violence is the end of all means.
One who lacks the strength to stand with peace, needs only the courage to stand behind those who do not.
Unite the C.H.A.O.S. - Display your Heart of Peace...
PeaceProfit 3 years ago 4
only one think i dont agree with obama ,, is that he thinks he can win the afghan war by more forces... study of history has shown that use of force in afghanistan has never succeeded in bringing the resistance down... you need to rethink ur strategies and stop supporting pakistan who is the real machine producing terrorists..
SabirAyaz 3 years ago
Obama i hope realizes that the war in Afghanistan needs to be won with the use of good intelligence and special forces and not an actual army. Find out where Osama is, kill him, and pull out. You can't win against Alquida was a whole since they are in over 100 different countries now. Make our point, not to fuck with us, then stop.
xcatalog 3 years ago
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Does the US still think it can win in Afghanistan? LMAO.. I hope more of your boys die there.
Reqrezentin 3 years ago
though i agree that we won't win due to Afghanistan being halfway around the world, but don't ever wish Americans dead. wish the people who sent them there dead.
Mastergamer2008 3 years ago
Agreed.
Reqrezentin 3 years ago
Wars don't solve shit! All wars equate to loses on both sides. Bombs, missiles and bullets don't kill people. Humans are the only ones that KILL. If mankind don't get their shit together, this world is toast anyway. Mankind is destroying this planet both inside out.... over what?
JarHead0311SS 3 years ago 2
Ileave afghanistan alone. Go into pakistan and THEN the problem will be solved.
Camilo19832001 3 years ago
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The new boss sounds like the old boss. Hey Obama, what happened to the CHANGE we were promised. What happened to ending the war and not expanding it. What happened to getting rid of torture and rendition? What happened to not letting the International Bankers continue robbing all of us blind. What happened to appointing cabinet members who were not mostly from the Bush and Clinton Administrations. Obama is a lowlife liar!
greenback001 3 years ago
First of all, he has always said that he would put more troops in Afghanistan, he is just pulling them out of Iraq. Second, he closed Guantanamo and has said "The US will not Torture." Thirdly He is working on the International bankers and about the cabinet members, the ones in the Clinton administration brought us a Surplus and the 90s were great.
The man has been in office for only TWO WEEKS!!!! Give him a break!!!!
DameDiabolique 3 years ago 4
First off, he said he was going to end the war and now he's expanding it, please refrain from sounding like an Obama cult member who now agrees with the Bush policy because it is now coming from Obama. He said he'd end the war. 2nd, he said they will try to close Guantanamo by next year, the same thing Bush said and never did, it's simply rhetoric.
greenback001 3 years ago
Bush used the same exact words as Obama "The US will not torture, and they continue to do so. Furthermore, Obama has approved to continue rendition and harsh interrogation techniques (torture). Also, Obama has approved 10 new secret prisons in the US. ABC News even reported on it.
greenback001 3 years ago
As far as Clinton goes, he was responsible for setting up the International Banksters with the ability to issue virtually endless credit without any equity which has created this economic crisis. Furthermore, you Obama cultist are in denial. Obama's entire cabinet is mostly made up of Bush and Clinton people. How in the world do u people see that as change.
greenback001 3 years ago
In the future try getting your info from some place other than your Messiah's web page which is filled with "feel good" empty rhetoric. Or simply admit that you are okay with Bush policy and want to keep on with it.
I thought the Bush retards were bad but it looks like the Obama cult members are going to make the Bushies look great.
greenback001 3 years ago
Obama is a lowlife liar!
greenback001 3 years ago
If you can't beat them, join them. Obviously the retards that you're trying to help aren't going to accept it. So you might as well manipulate them just as these fine folk do so well.
djancak 3 years ago
For your information, Obama is not my Messiah and I surely don't like being called a sheep. You are being unreasonable and naive. You are looking at this in a glass box and are at a 10 when you need to be at a 2. Just because I don't get my sources from Fox News doesn't make me a sheep. Stop Drinking the Conservative Kool-Aid and speak like you have some sense.
DameDiabolique 3 years ago
It sucks to try to inform the masses as to the reality of the left/right paradigm you're either preaching to the choir or shouting into a hurricane. with the latter being the norm. They- ( the sheep) fox believers, are so badly brainwashed that it would take a team of CIA debriefers to change their thinking. pity them and move on; and know that there are many of us who share your opinion. peace in
godbluffvdgg 3 years ago
And as far as Obama's cabinet being made of Bush and Clinton people, well what did you want him to do, put him some brand new folks that have never been tested or have no experience in the government to put in policy? And most of his White House Senior Staff actually never worked for either Administration, actually.
DameDiabolique 3 years ago 2
What he is doing is including a few harsher interrogation techniques and making them legal and not veiwed as torture. I don't think that Obama will add waterboarding to the army field manual. The problem with Bush is that he used torture and harsh techniques ILLEGALLY... As far as the 10 new secret prisons, well where else are the supposed terrorist supposed to go, the County Jail???? Please...
DameDiabolique 3 years ago
He said that he would end the war in Iraq and get rid of the terrorist in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is what he said... Also, he signed contracts and documents that says that Guantanamo will be closed within a year and guess what, in a year Guantanamo will be shut down. But never said he would close Guantanamo, at least from what I have seen.
DameDiabolique 3 years ago
I'm so sick of this crap. You Leftist all encouraged Obama to make the following argument: "George Bush had us bogged down in Iraq, when we should have been focusing on Afghanistan, I as President will redeploy our troops from Iraq to Afghanistan where we should be."
You all sat there and let him pull this crap.....now you can eat it.
HowTheWorldWorks 3 years ago
I will have to agree with your comment. I mean people on the left these days are just as slow bus as the ones on the right. Obama said repeatedly that he will put troops in Afghanistan and people on the Left are like "Hell Yeah." Brave New Films endorsed that policy during the elections. Now all of a sudden they make videos against more troops in Iraq? It's mind boggling...
DameDiabolique 3 years ago
There was never a discussion before about whether we should escalate the war in Afghanistan. It was merely assumed that Afghanistan represented the right war to fight and Iraq the wrong one. That is why we're calling for Congressional oversight hearings regarding this war, and why we're holding debates on the issues surrounding it.
bravenewfilms 3 years ago
No country has ever won a war with Afghanistan and Tribal regions of Pakistan.
sskrewdriver 3 years ago
A little bit of history. Afghanistan never fell to the Soviet Union for one reason and one reason only - Osama Bin Laden. Trained, armed and supplied by The United States of America.
Study your history kiddies.
wildcatbungalo 3 years ago
We could use more troops to hold fort. But we really need is things we have here in the U.S. power, water, schools, hospitals and jobs. Here's the thing, 80% of Afghanistan is on our side, we need to take advantage of that and build an infrastructure. When the Soviets went in, only 20% of the Afghans were on the Soviets side. 20% of Afghans are the ones that are the problem but set that aside and help the 80%. When the 20% sees the changes, they will put their weapons down.
AfghanStrong 3 years ago 3
Well said!
Under Bush, anyone who called for more focus on rebuilding was derided as a 'liberal' , therefore ensuring that the war could never be won. Hopefully, Obama will understand that military action is only part of the picture.
bimblinghill 3 years ago
I say we dontate our blessed Obama to the Afgan's. He would bring that country to it's knees faster than he will this one.
HEYBUDD 3 years ago
As Rachel Maddow said, "Sovietdemiseistan".
widgit007 3 years ago
Why is Afghanistan even a threat? Osama is in Pakistan.
RougeWaterPoloPlayer 3 years ago
The only way to pacify Afghanistan would b e either to legalize opium or to somehow destroy all opium profits and convince the citizens we are doing them a favor.
RougeWaterPoloPlayer 3 years ago
If you want to end the war in Afghanistan you will need to kill most of the Afghans. They don't have sport, they have war. Of course to actually win, I can't see how any alternative exists to cleaning out Pakistan as well. Pakistan was founded by murderous muslim fanatics, is nuclear armed, hated by its neighbors, and is a failed state by any objective measure of internal unity. The region will not be at peace until Pakistan is pacified.
formless777 3 years ago
You mean pacify in terms of genocide? are you even serious?
dawnofdarken 3 years ago
It is an incredibly ugly thing to suggest I agree, but historically the only people to ever conquer and control the region were the mongols and guess what they did ?
formless777 3 years ago
Vietnam all over again.
RougeWaterPoloPlayer 3 years ago
NOPE I'll tell ya who should of been elected - PARIS HILTON ! ! :):) (JOKING)
JetRanger0007 3 years ago
With all due respect. Why are you advertising a site before it's ready?
Also, you should check this article out: "Graveyard of analogies"
Afghanistan needs its infrastructure rebuilt (roads, schools, sanitation, power etc etc) and thus the quality of life improved for the people. THAT is how you win hearts and minds...
Naskeleng 3 years ago
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holtnickinla 3 years ago
Obama wants more troops in Afghanistan!
Obama is bought and paid for by the BANKS! This is why he voted and urged the Bailouts!
America should of voted for Ron Paul.
He would bring the troops HOME!! and abolished the Federal Reserve and the personal income tax.
Wake Up Robert Greenwald! Democrats and Republicans are just different wings of the same bird, flying the same direction.
Zwikster 3 years ago
We have the ability to effect change at the highest level here. The Obama administration has already shown a willingness to listen to its constituents, which is why we must call for oversight hearings and make our voices heard now.
bravenewfilms 3 years ago
primalminds, most of the clips appear to be from December 2008/January 2009 (the Kerry and Clinton clips are from her SecState confirmation hearing I believe) , but this does seem to be a bit more ramshackle and rushed than most BNF videos. And as for leaving out ISAF entirely--I don't get it.
There is a reasonable case for disengaging from Afghanistan, but this video unfortunately doesn't really make it...
BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot 3 years ago
We live in the Fascist States of Corporations. We lost our democracy in 1972 when the dollar went off the Gold Standard and the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank took over the strings of the Federal Government. We have a Fascist country that wants to nationalize Banks and Automotive Companies.
ManufacturedThoughts 3 years ago
Its a sucktion and it makes em,feel good???
And now we are heavily laden in debt!Don't play with my life,feel goodies!
intelegens 3 years ago
Another reason why Obama is sending more us forces their is because Bush told the Canadians to stay there.
While he "wins" Iraq and the Canadian gov wants to leave as it feels used.
But yea they have to rethink their game plan.
08Dariana 3 years ago
B-b-but we gotta catch Osama!!
Rahab111222 3 years ago
the dreams of the Obama administration ?
this administration has no other dream then gaining powe, to stay in power, and leading pro zionist wars, same shit as the administration before.
truthspeaker969 3 years ago
Afghanistan has been the graveyard for invading armies for centuries. I knew this was foolish.
TheDemonPazuzu 3 years ago 5
Afghanistan has been the graveyard for invading armies for centuries. I knew this was foolish. good pint
borntobelegend 3 years ago
its like why can't we stop fighting. why can't they stop fighting. its pathetic. im 29 and i will not allow myself to get into a physical confrontation ,. i stoped that my senior year of high school. u feel me.
jetsfan3161 3 years ago
first
omgimgfut 3 years ago
craziness
WhoRonPaul 3 years ago
the obvious question would be where are the taliban and al quada weapon factories
WhoRonPaul 3 years ago
I think we have to try to determine whether tricking the U.S. into attacking Afghanistan was the whole point of attacking the World Trade Center in the first place.
In other words, the U.S. shouldn't just react blindly and dumbly. We should make intelligent choices.
ReliableInsider 3 years ago
"99% of all the battles that we fought in Afghanistan were WON by the Soviet side . . . but the problem is that, the next morning, you have the same old situation as if there was no battle. Mujahideen were again in that village where we thought we had destroyed them just the other day, so it was a absolutely useless . . . war."
--former Soviet journalist
ReliableInsider 3 years ago
Great video.
Felix1085 3 years ago
So we have forces to he east and to the west of Iran, hmmm? That must be a coincidence....
wfosborn4 3 years ago 3
So you tools now support the war...? lol
LiquidMetalBand 3 years ago
I hate those fucking talibans..
Alexander021 3 years ago
1st comment plus 10...
cjracer1000 3 years ago
bravenewfilms will soon realize obama is just more of the same
dont attack me for criticizing him im not for the republicans either, other then ron paul
seenavvv 3 years ago
And you reveal yourself to having no clue about how the government works, in both ways. Good job, sir.
Tyler1337Admin 3 years ago
Do you post that same comment on all of these videos?
IntractableMonkey 3 years ago
Forget about Afghanistan, we can't afford it anymore. Bring the troops and backwater home, put them to work building something or back in school. Sure Black water personnel won't be paid as much, but that saves money too. Cut the debt!
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Hail ISrael
WKaliber1 3 years ago
I was just having a discussion about this last night. It is a mistake. History has proven that military campaigns in Afghanistan will fail. We will dump billions of dollars, and have more death to American soldiers and civilians, and when we leave, everything will return to what is was before we arrived, but with greater sympathy towards rebels and terrorists from the locals. Why do we keep repeating our mistakes??
isminx 3 years ago
If something must be done there, then how about something more reasonable, like a Letter of Marque and Reprisal?
KagarBeardtooth 3 years ago
Pay the Taliban to fight Al-Qaeda & capture Osama Bin Laden.
MishuTaste 3 years ago
I learned that we'll be in Afganistan a long time...way longer then the soviets were...unless we use nukes which isn't an option.. lol.. and there will be a draft even if we don't go into battle with Iran because we can't sustain our war with just a voluteer army. And of course there's the Iran problem. The American people are screwed either way. The average highchool and college graduates are gonna get drafted. I see.......
Thanks for letting me know BRAVENEWFILMS.
alex3914 3 years ago
I was never really for the Afghan war. For sending in a small team of ops for Bin Laden yes. Not multiple Brigades.
djgiga 3 years ago
Osama Bin Laden is dead.
amfanman 3 years ago
This has been a great eyeopener for me. Thanks.
alex3914 3 years ago 2
The middle east conflict is a war of ideas. Their idea is islam, ours is christian/secular. Bullets will not solve anything unless one side kills off completely the other.
ndyt 3 years ago
more killing just leads to more killing
jaheira2016 3 years ago 12