If you reduced the sensitivity from 99 it would be much easier to see the waveform beneath the little white lines. In the pre-click days musicians used to play in TIME as well as RUBATO. Rubato is an element still used in classical music today. It's not a mistake. That's why the french horn player slowed down. It was on purpose. :-) Cool tutorial though! I like it.
When i bounce or export my track....the volume is very low...now...I'm reading the Mastering engineers handbook by Bobby Owsinki,..and he talks about the normalize button,....now if i put "normalize" ON,..the sound's very low....but when i put it off the volume is high but its very distorted.. ( tried using Limiters and compressors)Can you give me some advice on exporting a track?
Hey SFLN, I know you don't frequent these here parts that often but I have a query. Would it not be better for the song to follow the Logic tempo, rather than the Logic tempo following the song. The Apple loop seems to noticeably slow when the parp guy starts parping which doesn't sound good. For DJ mixes this would be awful. Just a thought ...
wow great tutorials! I'm very noobie into logic but your tutorials help me to feel very confident about it, when you mentioned about the 28th convention in NY I was thrilled, but at the end of the video it say jan 28th "2008" shucks, I missed a great event:( by the way can I please have the name of this song? as you said is sooooooo smooth and the horn player "is so sloppy" lol domo arigato for sharing your wisdom master Ninja! CHEERS!
Do you know if there is a way to copy and paste the tempo map? For instance, I did the beat mapping for a 8 measure loop and put some drums behind it. However when I copied the audio, the beat map did not copy with it, and when I re-analyze it it doesn't give me the transient lines. Any ideas?
Thank you so much!!!! I had been using the tempo automation to do this. You just saved me about 6 hours tempo mapping a demo for a whole album. You truly are the logic ninja!!! +1000
Hahaha "are you ready for that special something, that special something that only ninja can give ya? - okay, seriously..." i love his tutorials. they are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
think bigger uploader guy... like this: use the 'beat from midi' option in beat mapping to manually play the beat along to a classical song, (piano roll edit ur mistakes...) now u can add a beat box loop to bach!
Great job Ninja, i'm a teacher here in montreal, canada and i always enjoy watching your tutorials. Logic is the best DAW, love it so much and so do my students.
Hi, is the tempo changes automation data? I keep getting that my tempo changes are being changed in time, I suspect that this happens when I move and delete regions - When I move a region to sound sooner and when Logic asks to move automation data I suspect it will move the previous tempo changes and squish them - at least that's what I get after I have been editing and I notice my tempo changes are screwed up in time :(
@nutelina So it seems that when I delete the beat maps (lines) some 40 bars earlier tempo changes start to screw -up i.e. get moved closer together and other time warps so they don't match up anymore at the right bars grrr luckily Logic makes back-ups so I copy them from the Tempo-list from a backup
i know... a bit late, but... after mapping... which is the fastest way to then bring the whole track to one tempo? e.g. map it to 80 afterwards and not having a variation in tempo there!
"So after a whole lot of work" 'Dude you should see my MIDI composition (I never play according to metronome), it has like 20-30 tempo changes, 2 tempo curves and the track just has 1:10 !: )) Thanks I needed this a few years ago but didn't know what it was called :(
Hey, not quite sure if this is the same thing or not, but when i hit configure global tracks, instead of a button saying Analyze with sensitivity next to it, it says Detect with transients next to it. Is this a big deal and how do i change it to the Analyze button?
Is there a way to lock the beat mapped audio track to the actual beatmapping so you can move it around or repeat sections (like the automation data)? The only solution I'm seeing is remapping regions you repeat or move and that sounds like a pain in the ass.
@yesnoyesnookay No, he said the tempo is adjusting to the music, which means the music stays exactly the same and hasn't been altered but the BPM is changing wherever you have a stem coming down
I cannot click on on a generated transient line from the analyzed audio. I'm prompted by a Logic dialogue window that states: There is already another beat at the same (source) clock.
I've tried to click and drag to the Logic's grid in vain. Have I missed something in this tutorial? Is there a setting in Logic's preferences that I need to modify?
@toolfrk1991 You need to click and drag logic's grid lines to the transient lines not the other way around. you simply click the grid notch you want to move and drag it towards the transient and a yellow line will appear lightly, let go and the tempo will change at that spot
Is it just Logic Express, but when I try to beat map my smtp clock changes and my video smtpe timing changes also.. So nothings in correct place, help!
SFlogicNinja what' up! Quick question: is the flex time similar or the same as beatmapping? Like could make an old song follow the Grid by using flex time? Thanking you ahead of time,
Hey - flextime and beatmapping are two different things. Beatmapping is essentially just a tool that allows you to easily create a tempo track so that the grid matches your recording. Your audio files are not changed. With flex time you are manipulating audio files - actually changing the location of transients or changing the tempo.
@natecarey1 Hey there, if you use beat mapping for midi you can click and drag the bar lines of the tempo track to the note which should start on the beat, make sure you lock the notes (region - lock SMTP position) because otherwise Logic will move notes you already beat mapped (Why the heck does it do this?) You will see that all your notes will allign more or less but the first note (the one you mapped to the beat) will be exactly at the bar.
@natecarey1 (ran out of characters) Then when you have your whole region beat mapped you can unlock the SMTP time lock and start quantizing, best is the quantize tool IMHO in the piano roll - when you hold the mouse it will pop-up if you want to quantize to 1/16, 1/4 notes etc. I never use a metronome and by doing this (film music) it stays dramatic but in time. I love this : )
Can anyone tell me how to get each channel (mono if possible) to go to my mixing desk. I have an Alesis IO26 Fire Wire card and want mono from Logic to the desk.
Ninja, should I follow a similar procedure if someone has given me a midi time line from Protools?(Its a 2-note piano timeline in Midi form.) LOVE these videos. Thanks for what you do. btw I live in the East Bay, not far from you, I think.
I'm arranging for show choir. The director cut the song I'm arranging and changed tempos, multiple times. I couldn't get this to work for me. . . until I manually made a cowbell (I gotta have more cowbell) track that went with the audio. Then I beat mapped that track.
I have a good question!I want to fit the vocals in to my beat mapped track, when I try to use the same method here for my vocals the previous track is modified too.How can I beat map a track without making any modifications to the others?
thx dude just watched about 5 of your videos really helpfull and looking forward to the rest :) does one do any vids on main stage using it live etc ? thx dude
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You lose me at 4:08, when you say, "Did you see what I did? I grabbed right here and it made a yellow line..." There's no yellow line in the frame, so no, I didn't see what you did. I'm lost from that point forward. I can't make out what you're doing again until 5:02. I'm not complaining. You're providing a free service here and it's great, just letting you know what my experience was with this particular vid.
I didn't see it either but it doesn't matter it's the same as he did after at 5.02. He made a yellow line so the song moves closer togheter to fit the bars in logic. So be more precise when a metronome plays to add other loop based content and so on.
Next Q: If I have a played figures, cluster of notes and I want to quantize it to tempo but I don't want the figure itself to change, just want it to start at beatpoint. Can I mark the cluster and say "quantize this figure" and the whole thing moves in position but doesn't change the "internal cluster". ?
I have 2 questions: I often just play the keyboard, totally out of tempo. Sometimes there is a good result and I want to build a song from that perticular performance. So I need to get it into tempo.
How??
Should I let L beatmap-listen, quantizie and then "straighten" out the tempo?
i use to do this then save as an apple loopbut cant anymore, just recently everytime i beat match a drum loop and i add it too my apple loops and later open it in a different project but its out of sync, can some one tell me how to put it back into sync, maybe i accidently checked a box in preferences
Awesome video, and really helpful, as all your videos are. But dude, don't be down on the guys for playing with some feeling! I know rubato is the natural enemy of the modern producer but those guys had groooove.
if you put the song into logic, find the BPM, then put it in garageband as that tempo, when you the change the tempo of the song, it will change the audio track too without affecting tempo, i havent tried this though, but i am almost 100% sure it will work, that was a little epiphany that just came to mind!!!!
Ok I have a question i figure maybe someone else knows this since it would probably take a long time to get an answer from Dave. Say you want to snap a bunch of different track all ranging in BPM to a global BPM in Logic. like i have a track that is 128 one that is 126 and so on and i want to make them all 127 is this possible? Thanks in advance
Hey, I just found your video's and wow! They are great ! I just started making some videos but your way better at it ha. Keep up the good work and thanks, they have shown me a lot.
Keep up the excellent work ninja my man..respect from Liverpool in the UK , you the man ! ...When you have some free time could you do something on the match eq in Logic ? I understand the concept but how effective is the process?
You are legendary genius! Loving your work. Discovered them today and I am addicted already and feeling even more confident tackling the monster thats is Logic 8 - and finally feel I can tame that beast called EXS24. Than you so much ...
Please tell me, what is the piece of music you used in this video. Sounds really nice. Keep the videos coming,
Thank you SF Logic Ninja... ive been pulling my hair out for the last hour trying to sync up this song! this is gonna be easy now! I knew there had to be a LOGICAL way... pun intended.
But I was wondering how you seperate every transient in a piece of audio and map it to logics tempo? If you know Beat Detective in Pro Tools you know what I'm referring too. I'd do in Pro Tools but I dont have DigiTranslator. I'd appreciate the help :)
Is anyone else having problems with the BPM Counter? When I drop a loop into the arrange window and try and use the BPM counter plugin it won't work. Do I need to convert it to an apple loop or something?
Mr.Earl..Mr.David Earl...Legend! Classic man!Don't know where to start tellin' ya how many creative tricks I've been learnin' here. You're teachin the logic behind logic! Ya know..think I've pretty much come up with a new song out of each lesson!Everything..from kick ass electronic tunes to sweet live jammin ballads with a few heads! Keep it up bro! Lovely work!send a few tunes yer way sometime.and heads up from dublin(IRL)to SF!Spent the 90's there ;o)
I bought Logic after years of combining Acid with FL Studio. I don't sample much unless it is VERY obscure or a dialog sample. Beat mapping is so easy in Acid, but no where near as extentive. When my PC crashed and burned,my cousin gave me a MAC, but I had years of beats I can't use, some I have wanted to remake in Logic. My recent tracks are entirely MIDI, but this gives me a great tool to have that warmer analog sound you get with obscure samples for pads or accent melody.
select those regions, and hit the 'beats to region' button beside the 'analyze' button. ta da! you've regained your sanity! now you can start a revolution of songs played the way they were meant to be, organically without a metronome wanking off, with all the perks of quantizing and echo and tremolo syncs, ect.!!
that's a great technique for really small increment mapping or working with movies, ect., BUT, trust me, if you're just doing a click track to songs as shown above, you WILL go crazy after you're 6th song or so unless you do 'beats to region' instead. simply hover your index finger over your keyboard of choice and record a midi track with a high hat tap or some metronomy sound, making sure its steady notes, (no 8th notes, them a few 4th notes, ect.), edit your timing in matrix editor,
I have a question. Once the tempo is mapped for a region, is it possible to "loop" the tempo map as I loop a region or do I have to write the map for the whole track ?
This is an isuue. It won't 'loop', but if you have locators for the section you want to repeat, hit command-I to select all inside locators, then Command-' To cut within that area. This should cut your tempo timeline as well, and then just option drag the section. When you get to my time-stuff video you will see how you can make this process a little easier.
I just have to say, i just happened upon your videos tonight and they are so helpful and i subscribed in an instant, Beatmapping eluded me for so long till this moment. No longer do i have to re-create a song from scratch to remix!
hey man great video, but i was wondering is it possible to beatmap, say, the first 8 bars or so, and then just copy and paste it for the rest of the song?
no waaay! you can tell logic how to snap to the song and he just pastes a drumbeat to that groove? you know how much pain i went through spent on adobe audition doing accapellas to beats to samples? Im gonna cry for a moment.
I'm beatmapping left and right for this movie score, and the jerks added 4 seconds to one scene right in the middle of the session. Am I going to have to remap totally?
Thank you for the great video. Please consider me 501 or perhaps more.
Please solve my metronome sync problem:
Was able to find the insert, metering and analyzed it and even put the yellow lines in which I am guessing starts the kick of the beat. The yellow lines do not sync with the metronome at all. I can not figure out how to sycn it. What am I doing wrong?
If you know the audio is four bars long, then select it, then go create locators that are four bars long. Under Options->Tempo, you will see 'adjust tempo to object length and locator.
hey quick question SFlogic ninja, i noticed in a few of your vids you don't use the "loop" feature for some of your drum beats. Is there any particular reason why? i know for like patterns, it's easier to insert new fills n such if you dont have a loop, but for straight beats like in this vid, why not loop? thanks!
Since loops are attached to the originals, I tend to shy away from them, just by habit. It's probably a quicker work flow to use them... Honestly, if I used the 'L' key command instead of selecting the loop function, I'd be good. Thanks, b... you just sped up my workflow!
this is great... logic follows the song... but how do you get your songs to follow logic? can it be done in reverse... so every song you import stays at say.. hmm 128 BPM ?
Right, I would also like to know if this is possible. Like the warping function in Ableton Live. In that situation I might beat map an old disco track so that it is a slave to the program's tempo. It would be great to be able to do this in Logic. Help!
Check out Daves tutorial on "time stuff" it's a newer one..... might help you out. I'm having trouble getting it to work on my end (using logic express) but it seems like others are having better luck.
With logic studio you get a lot of free samples and Movie FX sounds. the problem is, that everything was working fine, but now all the movie FX soundfiles are gone. I mean, they are still on the harddrive, but not in the logic-program.bon-list! does anybody know, how to get them back in the list?
Thank you for all your videos. I am a logic user for 4 years, but there are so many things i dont know about this software. I dont like to read manuals and it is so easy to make songs with logic, that i only use the things i allready learned in may songs... aahhmmm.. i dont wont o bore you and the rest of the 500 Ninjas!!!
After school i wanna come strait home, watch your tutorials and learn for another 4 hours Lol! Out of all the instructors of audio engineers, producers and musicians i have in school, you're the best.
I'm a student at PAVI (Pacific Audio Visual Institute) in Vancouver BC. I just Finished my first semester learning about Music Production, Career, Music Theory and introduction to Audio Engineering. I don't start learning about electronic music and DAW's til the third sem but i couldn't wait. so i started teaching my self Reason and Logic, youtubing like a mad man.
Great, finaly a video i can follow along with, thanks for the vid man. Great stuff. PS : lol i never figured out how to send a logic project your direction. But i dont want to hassle you with it, so, take care brotha and keep up the good work. You are a top notch ninja
wow,,, Al that work for beat mapping , ohh mmmy , I can do AL that in ableton live in Les than a moment , will the good thing in logic is you know whats going on, cool cool , any way I was one of your early subscriber and you promise me you will help me rewiring live in logic
Ooh, this is pretty cool. Two years and I didn't know what the heck this was
HectorAndresMayoral 14 hours ago
extremely helpful. Thanks david. best7mrp.
misterpeteskinner 2 days ago
Great tutorials, keep up the work. Cheers
101MTL 1 week ago
meat bapping
alontayar 2 weeks ago 2
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good to know logic can do this....
fyi
if anyone is attempting to do this with an accapella i found it easier to flex it instead (using polyphonic mode)
Jezzakeat 1 month ago
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Jezzakeat 1 month ago
That was an awesome tutorial! THANKS!
artdawggy 2 months ago
Is it possible to apply beat mapping to video? Meaning syncing video and a composition together. Thanks you rock!
ILOVEYOUSALEM 3 months ago
i dont have analyze just detect. how do i get the analyze button?
yoGregg0ry 6 months ago
@yoGregg0ry It's the same button...different name..
Mouiki 3 months ago
can you make a tutorial on the enviroment in logic and creating interesting arpeggiators and such?
anthonyth3on3 6 months ago
Hello My name is MIke
How do you setup a track track when you recording that have some sort of groove
Mikecrazyforyou99 7 months ago
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If you reduced the sensitivity from 99 it would be much easier to see the waveform beneath the little white lines. In the pre-click days musicians used to play in TIME as well as RUBATO. Rubato is an element still used in classical music today. It's not a mistake. That's why the french horn player slowed down. It was on purpose. :-) Cool tutorial though! I like it.
FunkMan53 8 months ago
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FunkMan53 8 months ago
Please can somebody help!
When i bounce or export my track....the volume is very low...now...I'm reading the Mastering engineers handbook by Bobby Owsinki,..and he talks about the normalize button,....now if i put "normalize" ON,..the sound's very low....but when i put it off the volume is high but its very distorted.. ( tried using Limiters and compressors)Can you give me some advice on exporting a track?
hardstyleaddictedNL 8 months ago
U smoke 2 much weed . but thX ;)
fromthe213 9 months ago
ah i forgot to tell,Mr ninja, you should make a comprehensive tutorial about Enviroment in logic if u have eneough knowledge
retrotape99 9 months ago
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retrotape99 9 months ago
very good
chequeatlantadj 9 months ago
Hey SFLN, I know you don't frequent these here parts that often but I have a query. Would it not be better for the song to follow the Logic tempo, rather than the Logic tempo following the song. The Apple loop seems to noticeably slow when the parp guy starts parping which doesn't sound good. For DJ mixes this would be awful. Just a thought ...
GrumpyOB1 10 months ago
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What song is this?
hegotbounce 11 months ago
wow great tutorials! I'm very noobie into logic but your tutorials help me to feel very confident about it, when you mentioned about the 28th convention in NY I was thrilled, but at the end of the video it say jan 28th "2008" shucks, I missed a great event:( by the way can I please have the name of this song? as you said is sooooooo smooth and the horn player "is so sloppy" lol domo arigato for sharing your wisdom master Ninja! CHEERS!
fearless4u107 1 year ago
If I speed the tempo up later on, will the sample that I am trying to get in time also speed up?
Th3Hamm3r 1 year ago
i'm lovin' it your tutorial thanks for the video your doing great things i have logic now two days i enjoying working with logic.
my00nour 1 year ago
hahaha that was awesome in the beginninh mad props
TheFamiliarStrange 1 year ago
Do you know if there is a way to copy and paste the tempo map? For instance, I did the beat mapping for a 8 measure loop and put some drums behind it. However when I copied the audio, the beat map did not copy with it, and when I re-analyze it it doesn't give me the transient lines. Any ideas?
Adeptmind 1 year ago
wow 80 or 81 = 80.8. good call. you should be a contestant on the price is right.
miraeja 1 year ago
Thank you so much!!!! I had been using the tempo automation to do this. You just saved me about 6 hours tempo mapping a demo for a whole album. You truly are the logic ninja!!! +1000
Afinlayv 1 year ago
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Afinlayv 1 year ago
Awesome, thanks!
alpenjon 1 year ago
Priceless!
La8301 1 year ago
Hahaha "are you ready for that special something, that special something that only ninja can give ya? - okay, seriously..." i love his tutorials. they are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
freebird9 1 year ago 8
think bigger uploader guy... like this: use the 'beat from midi' option in beat mapping to manually play the beat along to a classical song, (piano roll edit ur mistakes...) now u can add a beat box loop to bach!
gwb911 1 year ago
a million thanx for sharing it!
this topic made hundreds of doubts in my mind...
this one definitely free me up from being worried to force myself to stick or not to a click for certain parts...
thank you for showing me
thank apple for made it real
FabrizioCARENA 1 year ago
phat!
timcharper1 1 year ago
nice one! thanx for sharing.
But I'm still wondering how to move the audio around and keep the beat mapping or the tempo automation sticking to it.
in other words: any way to cut/edit the tempo track with the related audio?
thx again
Matjoepe 1 year ago
Great job Ninja, i'm a teacher here in montreal, canada and i always enjoy watching your tutorials. Logic is the best DAW, love it so much and so do my students.
EQ80Hz
eq80hz 1 year ago
Hi, is the tempo changes automation data? I keep getting that my tempo changes are being changed in time, I suspect that this happens when I move and delete regions - When I move a region to sound sooner and when Logic asks to move automation data I suspect it will move the previous tempo changes and squish them - at least that's what I get after I have been editing and I notice my tempo changes are screwed up in time :(
nutelina 1 year ago
@nutelina So it seems that when I delete the beat maps (lines) some 40 bars earlier tempo changes start to screw -up i.e. get moved closer together and other time warps so they don't match up anymore at the right bars grrr luckily Logic makes back-ups so I copy them from the Tempo-list from a backup
nutelina 1 year ago
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AbisCan 1 year ago
i know... a bit late, but... after mapping... which is the fastest way to then bring the whole track to one tempo? e.g. map it to 80 afterwards and not having a variation in tempo there!
THX
AbisCan 1 year ago
@AbisCan Open Tempo-list, delete all tempo's and keep the first
nutelina 1 year ago
"So after a whole lot of work" 'Dude you should see my MIDI composition (I never play according to metronome), it has like 20-30 tempo changes, 2 tempo curves and the track just has 1:10 !: )) Thanks I needed this a few years ago but didn't know what it was called :(
nutelina 1 year ago
Hey, not quite sure if this is the same thing or not, but when i hit configure global tracks, instead of a button saying Analyze with sensitivity next to it, it says Detect with transients next to it. Is this a big deal and how do i change it to the Analyze button?
YakuzaYuan 1 year ago
WWWWWWOOOOOOOW I just got some old acapellas. I'll be doing some SEEERIOUS remixing now
1stplates 1 year ago
Is there a way to lock the beat mapped audio track to the actual beatmapping so you can move it around or repeat sections (like the automation data)? The only solution I'm seeing is remapping regions you repeat or move and that sounds like a pain in the ass.
bighugejake 1 year ago
You rock this is exactly what I needed to know today.
Regards,
STeve Marshall
Vancouver BC, Canada.
daddycools99 1 year ago
ninjas..mwah :P
bullbunnies 1 year ago
The first part gave me a stiffy and I'm not even gay.
benthemiester 1 year ago
beat mapping is flex mode. right?
yesnoyesnookay 1 year ago
@yesnoyesnookay No, he said the tempo is adjusting to the music, which means the music stays exactly the same and hasn't been altered but the BPM is changing wherever you have a stem coming down
ToasterJoey6 1 year ago
hey ninja.
When would one use this technique? What are its applications?
paralelSun 1 year ago
HAHA, every vid man, SFLogicNinja here, or david earl, i dont care what you call me
BTW, big up your tut's from UK man, u really helped me with some shit when i 1st got Logic 9
Keep em up man
BlitzaBeats 1 year ago
I cannot click on on a generated transient line from the analyzed audio. I'm prompted by a Logic dialogue window that states: There is already another beat at the same (source) clock.
I've tried to click and drag to the Logic's grid in vain. Have I missed something in this tutorial? Is there a setting in Logic's preferences that I need to modify?
toolfrk1991 1 year ago
@toolfrk1991 You need to click and drag logic's grid lines to the transient lines not the other way around. you simply click the grid notch you want to move and drag it towards the transient and a yellow line will appear lightly, let go and the tempo will change at that spot
ToasterJoey6 1 year ago
@ToasterJoey6
My mistake. Great, thanks!
toolfrk1991 5 months ago
The Control left arrow is not making the beat mapping track smaller or larger. Any tips on where that might be in settings? Thanks!
3amJosh 1 year ago
Is it just Logic Express, but when I try to beat map my smtp clock changes and my video smtpe timing changes also.. So nothings in correct place, help!
tecnochiltah 1 year ago
hahaha it was funny and informative thanks a lot!!
MattTheDrummerDude 1 year ago
SFlogicNinja what' up! Quick question: is the flex time similar or the same as beatmapping? Like could make an old song follow the Grid by using flex time? Thanking you ahead of time,
Djwillymix
djwillymix 2 years ago
@djwillymix
Hey - flextime and beatmapping are two different things. Beatmapping is essentially just a tool that allows you to easily create a tempo track so that the grid matches your recording. Your audio files are not changed. With flex time you are manipulating audio files - actually changing the location of transients or changing the tempo.
rbyocum1 1 year ago
hey, do you if logic's quantize function will follow beat mapping adjustments in the same way the apple loops do?
natecarey1 2 years ago
@natecarey1 Hey there, if you use beat mapping for midi you can click and drag the bar lines of the tempo track to the note which should start on the beat, make sure you lock the notes (region - lock SMTP position) because otherwise Logic will move notes you already beat mapped (Why the heck does it do this?) You will see that all your notes will allign more or less but the first note (the one you mapped to the beat) will be exactly at the bar.
nutelina 1 year ago
@natecarey1 (ran out of characters) Then when you have your whole region beat mapped you can unlock the SMTP time lock and start quantizing, best is the quantize tool IMHO in the piano roll - when you hold the mouse it will pop-up if you want to quantize to 1/16, 1/4 notes etc. I never use a metronome and by doing this (film music) it stays dramatic but in time. I love this : )
nutelina 1 year ago
thanks man! ciao from italy!
johnlocke7 2 years ago
Great work by a dedicated educator. I can only hope I am your one-millionth subscriber so I can get a shoutout maybe half as special as Glitchboy's.
TheSamfranklin 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me how to get each channel (mono if possible) to go to my mixing desk. I have an Alesis IO26 Fire Wire card and want mono from Logic to the desk.
Please advice. Not as simple as in cubase !!!
mattkingston29 2 years ago
Ninja, should I follow a similar procedure if someone has given me a midi time line from Protools?(Its a 2-note piano timeline in Midi form.) LOVE these videos. Thanks for what you do. btw I live in the East Bay, not far from you, I think.
Jason424777 2 years ago
so could you speed up the tempo and it would stay organized, lets say for example if i chose to speed it up to 100bpm
necthael 2 years ago
I'm arranging for show choir. The director cut the song I'm arranging and changed tempos, multiple times. I couldn't get this to work for me. . . until I manually made a cowbell (I gotta have more cowbell) track that went with the audio. Then I beat mapped that track.
Thanks for the tutorials! They rock!
markvi58 2 years ago
Excellent. Thanks for all these vids. I find them immensely useful.
jppage3005 2 years ago
I have a good question!I want to fit the vocals in to my beat mapped track, when I try to use the same method here for my vocals the previous track is modified too.How can I beat map a track without making any modifications to the others?
psikonetik 2 years ago
@7:00 How did you duplicate the loop file?
Thx!
DJLSD11 2 years ago
@DJLSD11
Hold down ctrl and click and drag. That'll create a copy of the original region
gautsch 2 years ago
option click.
jayboyadamsPOP 2 years ago
i have a question.
can you beatmap streaching the track to a constanct bpm?
for example if you have a track with a bpm that is not constanct can u make it constanct?
sorry about my english
thanks in advance
JoHaNNeiiM 2 years ago
thx dude just watched about 5 of your videos really helpfull and looking forward to the rest :) does one do any vids on main stage using it live etc ? thx dude
wakansoul 2 years ago
Dude, you should have just turned the sensitivity down so you didn't have to deal with all those ridiculous transient lines.
megamix1029 2 years ago
Tempo is basically the speed of the beat and pitch is basically how high or low the sound is (like frequency).
CompsciWiz 2 years ago
interesting... but whats tempo exactly? what does tempo mean? and what does pitch mean too? cuz im kinda confused about this stuff
shinmasterx 2 years ago
then don't think about getting logic for a few years
pablopablopablo22 2 years ago
dude your screwed lol
geek180 2 years ago
amazingggggggg
selfishvulcano 2 years ago
thanks for your tutorials, they are pretty helpful.
phandeazy 2 years ago
oh and no2. where can i get that piece of music?
Infrasoundkids 2 years ago
i have that Lamp. You got it from Ikea? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right? am i right?
Infrasoundkids 2 years ago
You lose me at 4:08, when you say, "Did you see what I did? I grabbed right here and it made a yellow line..." There's no yellow line in the frame, so no, I didn't see what you did. I'm lost from that point forward. I can't make out what you're doing again until 5:02. I'm not complaining. You're providing a free service here and it's great, just letting you know what my experience was with this particular vid.
KatManDude 2 years ago
I didn't see it either but it doesn't matter it's the same as he did after at 5.02. He made a yellow line so the song moves closer togheter to fit the bars in logic. So be more precise when a metronome plays to add other loop based content and so on.
M3sslah 2 years ago
GREAT JOB!! THANX!!
i've a question: when i've finished to map all my beats, can quantize them ina a static bpm?
i mean: can i quantize audio after beat mapping?
thank you
zerododo 2 years ago
You can in logic 9, not sure about Logic 8, ask the Ninja.
M3sslah 2 years ago
5:28 = lol
jihadJackson 2 years ago
ditto, whats the audio from? what song?
4initialD 2 years ago
what's the name of the band/song you used?
dopedaves411 2 years ago
David Earl, Legend.
R8mondo 2 years ago
cna you then edit the tempo of the audio??? please reply, im pretty desperate!
shift123 2 years ago
Next Q: If I have a played figures, cluster of notes and I want to quantize it to tempo but I don't want the figure itself to change, just want it to start at beatpoint. Can I mark the cluster and say "quantize this figure" and the whole thing moves in position but doesn't change the "internal cluster". ?
flemingway 2 years ago
I have 2 questions: I often just play the keyboard, totally out of tempo. Sometimes there is a good result and I want to build a song from that perticular performance. So I need to get it into tempo.
How??
Should I let L beatmap-listen, quantizie and then "straighten" out the tempo?
How??
(One more Qest next comment)
flemingway 2 years ago
i use to do this then save as an apple loopbut cant anymore, just recently everytime i beat match a drum loop and i add it too my apple loops and later open it in a different project but its out of sync, can some one tell me how to put it back into sync, maybe i accidently checked a box in preferences
krydamoure17 2 years ago
Awesome video, and really helpful, as all your videos are. But dude, don't be down on the guys for playing with some feeling! I know rubato is the natural enemy of the modern producer but those guys had groooove.
revdan78 2 years ago
Hi ninja! How to do this the other way round so that the audio sample follows the tempo of the project??
outstroke 2 years ago
Ninja,
I second what rob909e said. I would like the song or vocal to follow the song's tempo for Dj and remixing purposes.
I currently have rewire Live and use Live to warp the song, for which I'd rather use Logic 100%.
Thanks a bunch
Jadendo714 2 years ago
if you put the song into logic, find the BPM, then put it in garageband as that tempo, when you the change the tempo of the song, it will change the audio track too without affecting tempo, i havent tried this though, but i am almost 100% sure it will work, that was a little epiphany that just came to mind!!!!
shift123 2 years ago
Can you do it the other way around? So it's all to an exact constant bpm, (Djing puposes.)
rob909e 2 years ago
This is great and i use logic.. but can anyone tell me doesnt abelton live do this automatically with audio?
nagchumpalot 2 years ago
Ok I have a question i figure maybe someone else knows this since it would probably take a long time to get an answer from Dave. Say you want to snap a bunch of different track all ranging in BPM to a global BPM in Logic. like i have a track that is 128 one that is 126 and so on and i want to make them all 127 is this possible? Thanks in advance
djjamesalexander 2 years ago
Hey, I just found your video's and wow! They are great ! I just started making some videos but your way better at it ha. Keep up the good work and thanks, they have shown me a lot.
audiobojang 2 years ago
By the way... Please tell us who's the interpret of this nice little song! I can see the song itself is called "earth romance" ;)
Thx
AbisCan 2 years ago
hey ninja, it's actually fun and serious at the same time! I'm hooked
tedgriffioen 2 years ago
Keep up the excellent work ninja my man..respect from Liverpool in the UK , you the man ! ...When you have some free time could you do something on the match eq in Logic ? I understand the concept but how effective is the process?
polanski06 3 years ago
That beat you put to that was hot man !!
I sing and I wish I knew how to record myself on protools I don't know where to start
Do you have any suggestions on how I could start from scratch learning protools ?? Please help : )
candees777 3 years ago
what up my ninja! i just watched this video and it helped out tremendously on my tracks. thanks for all your videos.
dert78 3 years ago
You are legendary genius! Loving your work. Discovered them today and I am addicted already and feeling even more confident tackling the monster thats is Logic 8 - and finally feel I can tame that beast called EXS24. Than you so much ...
Please tell me, what is the piece of music you used in this video. Sounds really nice. Keep the videos coming,
sirprestige 3 years ago
Haha so fuc*ing funny intro... luv it, luv you! :) (dont get any ideas now)
youmilkpack 3 years ago
Very helpful. Great video!
Rizobouni 3 years ago
Hey found very useful,how do i find the tempo of an acapella track,depeche modes enjoy the silence to be precise.Thanks...
4enzic69 3 years ago
im no sflogic ninja but try finding out the tempo of the original track
ampleaudio 3 years ago
use the bpm meter
Jean5tar 3 years ago
*swoons* you wait til you hear what I'm gonna do with this
fishybishbash 3 years ago
BRING IT!
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
What song is this?
hegotbounce 11 months ago
i know this is complete and total noobage, but i can't zoom in that close...do i need a mouse with a wheel?
RichieEastside 3 years ago
utter genius :-O
RichieEastside 3 years ago
man what a nice vid. u'r grrrrrrrrrr8!
jomarcavalcanti 3 years ago
Thank you SF Logic Ninja... ive been pulling my hair out for the last hour trying to sync up this song! this is gonna be easy now! I knew there had to be a LOGICAL way... pun intended.
DJWilderness 3 years ago
Your vids are sweet SF Ninja.
But I was wondering how you seperate every transient in a piece of audio and map it to logics tempo? If you know Beat Detective in Pro Tools you know what I'm referring too. I'd do in Pro Tools but I dont have DigiTranslator. I'd appreciate the help :)
drmrfk16 3 years ago
Is anyone else having problems with the BPM Counter? When I drop a loop into the arrange window and try and use the BPM counter plugin it won't work. Do I need to convert it to an apple loop or something?
LineBoarder 3 years ago
Can you use this for VOCALS too or no??
Mmungia 3 years ago
can you adjust the song to the tempo like warping on ableton?
mindphlux 3 years ago
Right there with ya 'LineBoarder'...
Mr.Earl..Mr.David Earl...Legend! Classic man!Don't know where to start tellin' ya how many creative tricks I've been learnin' here. You're teachin the logic behind logic! Ya know..think I've pretty much come up with a new song out of each lesson!Everything..from kick ass electronic tunes to sweet live jammin ballads with a few heads! Keep it up bro! Lovely work!send a few tunes yer way sometime.and heads up from dublin(IRL)to SF!Spent the 90's there ;o)
conormcsf 3 years ago
You don't understand how f'ing helpful you have been to be on this tutorial. Thanks alot Miagi! You are my ninja master...WAXXX ON!!!!!!!!!!
LineBoarder 3 years ago
Freakin' Great!
I bought Logic after years of combining Acid with FL Studio. I don't sample much unless it is VERY obscure or a dialog sample. Beat mapping is so easy in Acid, but no where near as extentive. When my PC crashed and burned,my cousin gave me a MAC, but I had years of beats I can't use, some I have wanted to remake in Logic. My recent tracks are entirely MIDI, but this gives me a great tool to have that warmer analog sound you get with obscure samples for pads or accent melody.
PumaSweat 3 years ago
Fantastic work. That's solved one major problem, three more to go. Let's see what else you're put up here.
stewdean 3 years ago
Hi David,
Thanks a lot for this video and fr all of your very useful tips.
I know this might have been asked before but is there any way to find the BPM of a song by using any feature similar to "Identify Beat" in Pro Tools.
Thank You and keep up with the tutorials! :)
Flipsidetrack 3 years ago
HAHAHA @ "that special sumthin' "
jacknesky 3 years ago
my below posts are backwards order. :)
gwb911 3 years ago
select those regions, and hit the 'beats to region' button beside the 'analyze' button. ta da! you've regained your sanity! now you can start a revolution of songs played the way they were meant to be, organically without a metronome wanking off, with all the perks of quantizing and echo and tremolo syncs, ect.!!
gwb911 3 years ago
that's a great technique for really small increment mapping or working with movies, ect., BUT, trust me, if you're just doing a click track to songs as shown above, you WILL go crazy after you're 6th song or so unless you do 'beats to region' instead. simply hover your index finger over your keyboard of choice and record a midi track with a high hat tap or some metronomy sound, making sure its steady notes, (no 8th notes, them a few 4th notes, ect.), edit your timing in matrix editor,
gwb911 3 years ago
Thanks for the video.
I have a question. Once the tempo is mapped for a region, is it possible to "loop" the tempo map as I loop a region or do I have to write the map for the whole track ?
Thank you.
digableweb 3 years ago
This is an isuue. It won't 'loop', but if you have locators for the section you want to repeat, hit command-I to select all inside locators, then Command-' To cut within that area. This should cut your tempo timeline as well, and then just option drag the section. When you get to my time-stuff video you will see how you can make this process a little easier.
*bows*
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
hey man your videos are amazing!!!!
Would you be able to do a tutorial on how to make kicks on logic plz?
WoTsHaNeNiN94 3 years ago
I just have to say, i just happened upon your videos tonight and they are so helpful and i subscribed in an instant, Beatmapping eluded me for so long till this moment. No longer do i have to re-create a song from scratch to remix!
dante666diaz 3 years ago
hey man great video, but i was wondering is it possible to beatmap, say, the first 8 bars or so, and then just copy and paste it for the rest of the song?
nofortress 3 years ago
You can in the tempo track.
Not sure if it will work right, though, unless the material you are mapping is consistently changing tempo...
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
no waaay! you can tell logic how to snap to the song and he just pastes a drumbeat to that groove? you know how much pain i went through spent on adobe audition doing accapellas to beats to samples? Im gonna cry for a moment.
LemonAndYoghurt 3 years ago
So, can you answer me this question:
I'm beatmapping left and right for this movie score, and the jerks added 4 seconds to one scene right in the middle of the session. Am I going to have to remap totally?
Thanks in advance.
ro
0rigin35 3 years ago
You need to 'insert time'. It's in the region pulldown window. That should do it!
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
Thank you for the great video. Please consider me 501 or perhaps more.
Please solve my metronome sync problem:
Was able to find the insert, metering and analyzed it and even put the yellow lines in which I am guessing starts the kick of the beat. The yellow lines do not sync with the metronome at all. I can not figure out how to sycn it. What am I doing wrong?
SaxManDanDotCom 3 years ago
Thanks for the video, great help. One question, when you beat map if you quantize does the quantizing tempo follow the mapping? Thanks, Paul.
moogy77 3 years ago
hey, this may be a stupid question, but is there any way that I can get a DVD with all yr tutorials? I'll gladly pay for it.
cutrecordsnotlines 3 years ago
Couldn't resist to tell you that lesson was great! Greetings from Romania!
bullhost 3 years ago
Hey, what if the piece of audio is only 4 bars will the BPM plugin accurately generate a tempo of something that short? If not what can I do?
Oh, and the fact that you do this free for the betterment of all musicians; is highly appreciated!!!
Thank you...
ciremfuch1 3 years ago
If you know the audio is four bars long, then select it, then go create locators that are four bars long. Under Options->Tempo, you will see 'adjust tempo to object length and locator.
Than'll get you really close.
*bows*
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
I am really enjoying your tutorials
Groovegee 3 years ago
hey quick question SFlogic ninja, i noticed in a few of your vids you don't use the "loop" feature for some of your drum beats. Is there any particular reason why? i know for like patterns, it's easier to insert new fills n such if you dont have a loop, but for straight beats like in this vid, why not loop? thanks!
P.S the vid's rock
bassmaverick86 3 years ago
Since loops are attached to the originals, I tend to shy away from them, just by habit. It's probably a quicker work flow to use them... Honestly, if I used the 'L' key command instead of selecting the loop function, I'd be good. Thanks, b... you just sped up my workflow!
*bows*
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
what's the address?
zvern36 3 years ago
Sorry, the NYC trip was a while ago.....
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
u kidding me..hello...sfl, do you know when is the next one coming around?
zvern36 3 years ago
hellow! groovy nice.. question. why do u always click the little square in the volume meter master? ok thx!
ninja tavo out
tavozgarcia 3 years ago
It's the clip indicator. It was peaking due to too much volume...
*bows*
SFLogicNinja 3 years ago
your knowledge of Logic is very impressive!
Thanks so much for doing this video and all the others!
Way to go. High scores from me. 5 stars. I am sure alot of others you do deserve that as well!
thetiler 3 years ago
this is great... logic follows the song... but how do you get your songs to follow logic? can it be done in reverse... so every song you import stays at say.. hmm 128 BPM ?
djmatthewanthony 4 years ago
Right, I would also like to know if this is possible. Like the warping function in Ableton Live. In that situation I might beat map an old disco track so that it is a slave to the program's tempo. It would be great to be able to do this in Logic. Help!
sourasher 3 years ago
Check out Daves tutorial on "time stuff" it's a newer one..... might help you out. I'm having trouble getting it to work on my end (using logic express) but it seems like others are having better luck.
gowilly20 3 years ago
thanks I wish I had known about the BPM counter before! This will save me a bunch of time...
dbassfour 4 years ago
Please don't hang me for asking this: do you know of a function that would be equal to Beat Detective - but within Logic?
Good video on Beat Mapping (BTW). You're doing an awesome job with all the videos. Thanks a lot for them.
Take care, and have fun in NYC!!
Farout5150 4 years ago
mr earl many thanks for yr vids full of nothing but straight up info , im loving it and learning a lot . keep up the global service man yr a legend .
mrtissue99 4 years ago
One more thing: i have a little problem:
With logic studio you get a lot of free samples and Movie FX sounds. the problem is, that everything was working fine, but now all the movie FX soundfiles are gone. I mean, they are still on the harddrive, but not in the logic-program.bon-list! does anybody know, how to get them back in the list?
Thank you for help
Greetings from Germany
Hope you understand my english...
Freddy
69johnsmith69 4 years ago
Just drag the folder they are in onto the list itself from the finder.
*bows*
SFLogicNinja 4 years ago
Hi! I decided to call you logicNinja ;-)
So, Hi Logic Ninja,
Thank you for all your videos. I am a logic user for 4 years, but there are so many things i dont know about this software. I dont like to read manuals and it is so easy to make songs with logic, that i only use the things i allready learned in may songs... aahhmmm.. i dont wont o bore you and the rest of the 500 Ninjas!!!
69johnsmith69 4 years ago
After school i wanna come strait home, watch your tutorials and learn for another 4 hours Lol! Out of all the instructors of audio engineers, producers and musicians i have in school, you're the best.
Liv3byLog1c 4 years ago
Then i stumbled on to your vids when i was trying to figure out how to ReWire a few days ago and i must say, BRAVO!!
Liv3byLog1c 4 years ago
Hi Dave,
I'm a student at PAVI (Pacific Audio Visual Institute) in Vancouver BC. I just Finished my first semester learning about Music Production, Career, Music Theory and introduction to Audio Engineering. I don't start learning about electronic music and DAW's til the third sem but i couldn't wait. so i started teaching my self Reason and Logic, youtubing like a mad man.
Liv3byLog1c 4 years ago
Great, finaly a video i can follow along with, thanks for the vid man. Great stuff. PS : lol i never figured out how to send a logic project your direction. But i dont want to hassle you with it, so, take care brotha and keep up the good work. You are a top notch ninja
josh955iracer 4 years ago
Thanks David!
soundeng1 4 years ago
you got to come to Bangkok one of these days. :O
ms2000guy 4 years ago
wow,,, Al that work for beat mapping , ohh mmmy , I can do AL that in ableton live in Les than a moment , will the good thing in logic is you know whats going on, cool cool , any way I was one of your early subscriber and you promise me you will help me rewiring live in logic
falzaabi 4 years ago
Check tip #9. It shows you how to rewire logic.
Nijnvenijn 4 years ago