CIA Torture Tapes Destroyed

[TheUSAterrorist]

torture is commonplace in the US military ... america will always shift the blame and say something like "yeah but what would the iraqis or afghans do " but i think any aggressive invading force should have no rights what so ever and deserve everything they get

[supernova22ful]

an the us makes hitler out to be evil ??? the bunch of hypocritical scum i for 1 cant wait til the us collapse and if there is a god they wil be tortured every day for the rest of there lives

[PNACATTACKdotCOM]

¤ Gestapo and SS did this also to protect their War Criminals - by destroying their documentaries, and trying top destroy evidents of their concentration camps.

"Torturing do not work - we learned that from Nazis in World War II"

~ William J. Casey, Former Director of CIA (DCI) in CIA Phoenix Program related documenatary (I don't know it's name now).

[hawkkins562]

you are all fools wake up

[borcer]

CIA tortures people???

And what else is new?

[Opupekito]

damn cia war criminals making the world hate america every day a ton more, Id be so happy if some country would bomb langley to ashes, Im sorry I may be american but those deaths would make me happy God forgive me

[trufreedom87]

What attacks did it disrupt dozens,this dude is full of shit and he is nothing but a shill used by the government to make it look like they did something and it got results.Notice how he can't mention specifically one attack it prevented and also the fear tactics are getting old!

[trufreedom87]

Jane Harman is the same person who gave us H.R. 1955 which makes speaking out against the government a terrorist act and it is called the Homegrown Radicalization Act that is used to accuse Americans of being terrorist and you see the propaganda they use look into the Ricin even where the Police found nothing in the room yet the F.B.I found tubes of Ricin afterwards when they looked sitting on the table!It is a fear tactic to make us think of Americans as terrorists don't let them fool U again!!

[Faxisi]

God Bless the USA. Fuck our enemies. Bin Ladin deserves to be tortured to death.

[trufreedom87]

God did bless the USA,but why should he now we have killed 1 mil Iraqi citizens and 500 thous during sanctions and this country never attacked us and never posed a threat to us!Why are we always right because men that constantly lie say we are right,wake up!The CIA is a terrorist organization they have overthrown elected officials all over the world and have backed dictators and they created radical Islam when Russia was in Afghanistan they funded and trained Bin Laden!

[Kenzofeis]

True.

[peepnklown]

This should show the American people once and for all that the CIA is corrupt and is against the American people. Transparency is the only way we can regulate our government and hold them accountable.

The CIA is a criminal organization; they need to be dismantled.

Torture does not bring reliable information; it's well documented.

[sallyann22]

It has emerged that at least four White House staff were approached for advice about the tapes, including David Addington, a senior aide to Dick Cheney, the vice-president, but none has admitted to recommending their destruction.

Vincent Cannistraro, former head of counterterrorism at the CIA, said it was impossible for Rodriguez to have acted on his own: "If everybody was against the decision, why in the world would Jose Rodriguez have gone ahead and destroyed them?"

[tamojuan]

who gives a fuck about terrorist's being tortured...they don't have smpathy for us why should we have sympathy for them..i hate fucking terrorist

[Medium0Rare]

its not about sympathy. Its about being humane.

[bizkin]

how do you know if these people are "terrorists?" hell with your logic you could turn back time to the 1940s and switch the word "terrorist" for a little yellow star.

would you apply your same lack of reguard for human life to those forced to wear a yellow star?

[tinaANDcharlie]

so who says the people tortured where terrorists anyway ?

[Anonymousoxx]

You know... they do have motives and one of them is ignorant people like you.

[emerica1010]

that guys apuppet ...he is planted its so obvious

[audacityone]

they are all crooks but the American people have been in a purple haze of demension in a psychedelic euphoria like trance to the third power twiced removed upon an octagonal twist of space debri thus rendering us unconscious.

[maineflaim]

I think there should be a new radical idea introduced into American foreign policy. "If it's wrong for other countries to do things, it's wrong for the United States to do those things." Very simple.

[ProgressiveMandate]

WE THE PEOPLE, DEMAND IMPEACHMENT BACK on the TABLE, ANY TABLE, but "BRING IT ON"

Impeach the God Dammed CRIMINALS!!!

Impeach the God Dammed CRIMINALS!!!

STOP FUNDING the IRAQ DISASTER!!!

STOP FUNDING the IRAQ DISASTER!!!

Enough with "Stay the Course"...enough with "New DIRECTION". Just STOP funding this nonsense and GOD DAMMIT, just DO IT!!!

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - A Einstein

[audacityone]

Bush sucks cock

[FilmPA]

Impeach Bush the cock sucker.

[audacityone]

Americans are to stupid to figure out what's lies and what's truth's.Remember what Pelosi said about the war funding before she was elected.Has everyone got amnesia.I am ashamed to be an American.

[audacityone]

fuck the ORIELY FACTURE and FOX

[audacityone]

Gonna have to steal another election to get this mess straightened out

[audacityone]

I for one am a little confused how can we have destroyed something that doesn't exist.Our PREZZ has stated many times that the US goverment does not torture people would he lie to the American people??? this guy is going to be the downfall of America not OSAMA.What ever becomes of this situation won't matter cause whom ever is responsible will be pardoned in about 13 months.What a freaken joke this guy is at the American stupidity.

[DanielLStafford]

The Real News is a breath of fresh air. The CIA and Corporate America are breaking the law. If they get away with this illegal behavior, then nobody is going to respect the law. That is the beginning of the end for our society.

[mcalien24]

umm...what happened to sodium pentathol (truth serum)? cant we just inject them with some of that stuff. mwa they'll sing like canaries see.

[crazycatfguy]

The majority of people in Guantanamo were rounded up by the Northern Alliance of Ruthless Drug Lords before the US even had enough troops to monitor them. They buried the locals in mass graves then these drug lords sold us people who had a foreign ID. The truth is most of them were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. They don't have anything to sing.

[my15minutes]

mcalien - good comment! we hardly ever see anyone trying to find reasonable alternatives.

thanks for being one of them. keep it up!

[johnnyk67]

The title suggests that TheRealNews is the real slow news (it reads like a headline). This video should be titled "Michael Ratner on CIA Tapes" or "Overview: Destroyed CIA Tapes"

[uruk]

Europeans leaders must be WATERBOARD 2

[jairiar1]

LETS 'WATERBOARD' THE SUSPECTS...

[teemuruskeepaa]

I don't live in US but I think theRealNews is in danger of becoming an outlet of leftist special interests. Now is a critical time for you to introduce opposite views and debate, I don't mean panels but simply showing showing how different views interact.

[Ketiara]

I think it is up to the individual to decide what is a TRUELY balanced view. If one is not balanced then they will seek out the side they favor.

[teemuruskeepaa]

No, we need others to balance our views. Only in the market economy we can like about anything. TheRealNews is becoming the kind of media which denies us those views.

[Ketiara]

A balance between the individuals rights and the imput of "others" is so important. I don't understand why we should have right and left news, why can't we have the in between news?? No right or left but both. The goal being the focus.

[teemuruskeepaa]

TheRealNews is supposed to become that but instead it appears to become just the opposite to the right wing mass media.

[mcalien24]

ive been looking at your discussion. i think you are missing the point. corporate media is not right/left in the real sense of the words. they give only the appearance of right/left. part of real news is the attempt to break through the false dichotomy of the corporate media. real news is not left or right in our indoctrinated sense of those terms. but compared to the "balance" of corporate media, rationality seems far left.

[fistnbone]

The top tier dems and repubs are like a litmus test for what is considered the mainstream debate. Everything else is considered extreme. You're right that we benefit by having many options about info. But, I think just throwing in a conservative argument for the sake of balance doesn't achieve what you want. It just makes it seem like somehow one OR the other is correct... In all scenarios, it's just re-framing the debate. If you want other views, watch fox or cnn or other indie news.

[teemuruskeepaa]

You don't believe in democracy, the ability to critizise. Well you should know that by not allowing that on theRealNews, it will become that thing it tries to avoid. Having 2 perspectives collide is the only way to find a balanced view, and it may result in eradication of personal mistakes.

[fistnbone]

I'm not sure how I don't believe in democracy. In any event, if you look at the way they treat the story, they criticize two high-ranking dems as well as the Bush admin. By framing what is Left and what is Right, the mainstream media help keep people ignorant. RealNews could have easily thrown in some token Bush apoligist for the semblance of balance but what purpose would that serve? Who would you choose? Free market philosophy would call for all voices to just come as they can.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Yes but who critizises them?

[mcalien24]

is balanced really balanced though? i mean we have "fair and balanced" news already and its anything but...real news would lose its newfound credibility if it embraced not only the format of cable news, but also the inherent premises used by the corporate media and their panelists.

[teemuruskeepaa]

You probably just don't believe in mass media panels. I don't either. Balance is the agreement of opposite views. Without opposition there is only 1 side. Its an oxymoron isn't it?

[mcalien24]

yea but its two sides of the same coin. its an illusion. example...you know how the media is demonizing chavez? where is the representative from chavez's government? iran nukes? where is the representative for iran? we have two people arguing about iran but who are these people? im not saying that should be the standard, but i am saying the views we see on tv are not in opposition to one another, its just the carefully crafted appearance of it.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Yes and I'm saying this channel is becoming that side of Chavez or Iran without US. Got it?

[mcalien24]

well i disagree because i think weve been indoctrinated by US media for so long that we dont recognize objectivity anymore. but supposing you are right, it dosent represent US interests...i would still welcome it because, at least in this case, this is just one small internet site competing against the behemoth that is corporate media and their dedicated, indoctrinated viewers/readers.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Its not supposed to be in the US interest. You mean this channel should somehow be independent and in US interest? No, independence means also being free from national interests. It needs to work only as a medium for different sides. Instead it seems to just be its own side. I've said this in so many different ways already. Why don't you see it?

[mcalien24]

im not saying i dont see it, everyone has an agenda...by interests i meant corporate interests. obviously i dont think corporate media represents actual US interests. that said, this kind of journalism is refreshing. id rather have a medium that is on its own side than representing the status quo.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Granted. But do you understand that as a News channel it is not enough to just be refreshing and always tell what some people want to hear? Everyone needs to understand that this channel needs to pit against different views. It has only shown MY kind of left wing radicals. As an honest person I can't accept that.

[jairiar1]

are these the leaders of the 'free world'? is this really the kind of 'free world' which we want ? this stinks.

[onedarkflame85]

Both Hayden and Bush belong in prison. Destroying evidence is a CRIME. What the fuck does Bush have to do to get impeached?? Am I the only one who's outraged??